The Fanta Bomb & Improvised Munitions in Ukraine

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The Armourer's Bench

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@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Check out the accompanying article for this one here: armourersbench.com/2023/07/23/the-fanta-bomb-improvised-munitions-in-ukraine/
@0xBasedChang
@0xBasedChang Жыл бұрын
a lot of the stuff sent by the west has been stolen and sold on the black market
@long-hair-dont-care88.
@long-hair-dont-care88. Жыл бұрын
An the government corruption an that.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
RedBull gives you wings
@francoisleveille409
@francoisleveille409 Жыл бұрын
For the most refreshing day, try our home-made beverages. You'll have a blast!
@黄蟮
@黄蟮 Жыл бұрын
Although I don’t understand the principle, I really like it
@Broadsword999
@Broadsword999 Жыл бұрын
From what I read about the US in Vietnam, it was a regular practice by US forces to crush drinks cans so the VC couldn't use them to make improvised grenades.
@chill_will9816
@chill_will9816 Жыл бұрын
In Iraq, we were warned not to throw MRE bags out of vehicles while on the road because they could be used to hide IED's.
@capcamouflage
@capcamouflage Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, however the VC ones usually had far more effort put into them. Not that the end result wouldn't probably be the same, but the VC had far less access to factory-made grenade fuzes or ball bearings. Fragmentation was typically made from thin steel rods cut into short segments with a hand shear and while they could sometimes salvage fuzes from expended US smoke grenades and refill them there weren't nearly enough for the quantity they were making so fuzes were usually made from scratch with a friction ignitor. For that reason as well as the sheer quantity they were making they had to be made in dedicated workshops rather than literally in the trenches such as at 1:40 in this video.
@m2hmghb
@m2hmghb Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was because the cans were the perfect size to put the grenade in and hold the spoon down. Just needed to pull it out and it would start the cook.
@firepower01
@firepower01 Жыл бұрын
​@@capcamouflagethanks for sharing that interesting history
@KataIIama
@KataIIama Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a coal and fertilizer mix for the explosive
@cujimmy1366
@cujimmy1366 Жыл бұрын
One Red bull and four Jager bombs please.
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo Жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Red Bull
@thatguy-yn8ji
@thatguy-yn8ji Жыл бұрын
Redbull gives you wings
@sto2779
@sto2779 Жыл бұрын
I'll never look at empty scrap water bottles same again ever.
@charleslangley6036
@charleslangley6036 4 ай бұрын
@@thatguy-yn8jiWell said. 😅
@TheBlazersfan22
@TheBlazersfan22 3 ай бұрын
Ahahahahha. Literally . XD 😆 🤣
@HRM.H
@HRM.H Жыл бұрын
We used to make this kinda thing in highschool. Bottles filled with pebbles and flash powder from firecrackers. Ducttaped up for extra pressure build up. War makes for creative minds
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of all invention
@kongoubongo1114
@kongoubongo1114 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a rough school or a final solution to a bully bullying you.
@HRM.H
@HRM.H Жыл бұрын
​​@@kongoubongo1114just bored kids with access to polish and italian fireworks 😂
@MrKochshawn
@MrKochshawn Жыл бұрын
Be careful with flash powder. That is some volatile and dangerous stuff.
@JR-mh8vn
@JR-mh8vn Жыл бұрын
​@@MrKochshawn depends the flash powder you can get out of firework shells isnt volatile
@OrdnanceLab
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout. We'll have to try recreating a few more of those improvised grenades.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, enjoyed the vid! You guys could try and make some of the can grenades. That would be interesting.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
^^
@IdiotWithEducation
@IdiotWithEducation Жыл бұрын
Yes please :)
@waterboy239
@waterboy239 14 күн бұрын
If it was anybody else I'd say you're out of your f****** mind saying that on KZbin
@CAMSLAYER13
@CAMSLAYER13 Жыл бұрын
Even if you have regular grenades I think making these in this situation has value. You can have custom payloads and it saves grenades for you to use and its a good use of excess explosives you couldn't or wouldn't otherwise use.
@dark2023-1lovesoni
@dark2023-1lovesoni Жыл бұрын
Plus, standard Russian pattern grenades (RGD-5) are high explosive only with minimal fragmentation. While these seem more fragmentation based w/ ball bearings.
@theriddler6994
@theriddler6994 Жыл бұрын
@@dark2023-1lovesoni tbh i saw way more F1 than rgds in vids from Ukraine
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 Жыл бұрын
They have enough anti-tank mine to blow up half the planet. Might as well put all that explosives to use.
@sheep8618
@sheep8618 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@dark2023-1lovesoniRgd-5 is a fragmentation grenade, it had a fragmentation liner inside the shell.
@sheep8618
@sheep8618 Жыл бұрын
@@theriddler6994Me too, I suspect that rgd-5 are being issued to soldiers and f-1 grenades are used in drones (that’s why you see more of them from footage). I think Ukraine has a large stockpile of f-1 grenades but because they are obsolete comparing to rgd-5 or NATO supplied M67, where F-1 is heavy and have worst blast and fragmentation performance, they are used for drones instead, which doesn’t matter as much because their drone drops are accurate.
@xXrandomryzeXx
@xXrandomryzeXx Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the morale boost these improvised explosives provide. It's the "Fucking around with fireworks" type of acts with the boys that boost morale a lot.
@charles2521
@charles2521 Жыл бұрын
Trillions of dollars of sponsorship to have to fight with pet bottles. That really boosts someone's morale.
@Quicks1lvr
@Quicks1lvr Жыл бұрын
@@charles2521 The only Ukrainian getting sponsored is Zelensky. All the others are simply fodder for us Americans to use against Russia
@SweatyFeetGirl
@SweatyFeetGirl Жыл бұрын
true lmao@@charles2521
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 Жыл бұрын
Your math is as bad as your logic. If you've never been to war or even been in a life or death struggle you shouldn't be speaking when the adults are speaking. Stupid Russian bot
@stuart6478
@stuart6478 10 ай бұрын
How is being straight edge working out for you?
@BigMakBattleBlog
@BigMakBattleBlog 11 ай бұрын
Im a drone pilot in Ukraine. The sort of container is irelavant but at least in my unit our sapper uses plastic bottles for pyrotechnics and beer or pop cans for HE or frag we also now use custom 3D printed casings Grenade fuses are common as are impact detonated nose cones from Mortar and VOG grenades . Remote det, timed det and proxy or tip switch are also used . The explosives used are normally harvested from UXOs so artillery, mortar and rocket rounds, also from TM62 mines so ammonium nitrate and TNT basically but i have seen some real comp and even C4. As far as I know they dont get used as grenades as they tend to be too powerful. But im sure its happened. Generally. Bomb weight is 450 g for a DJI mavic 1.5/3kg for an normal 7" FPV but you can scale up FPVs and bomb size accordingly. There are also things like water/sea mines being produced and even Hamas style home made rockets and launcher..... I like my job . I have a channel if anyone is interested
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the extra insights!
@ljulja92
@ljulja92 10 ай бұрын
Keep up good work BigMak and stay safe, love your videos.
@jgedutis
@jgedutis 10 ай бұрын
I hope you are staying safe. Keep up the good work. America stands with Ukraine.
@jackoliver7506
@jackoliver7506 8 ай бұрын
What's real comp?
@majorian4897
@majorian4897 8 ай бұрын
Where can I find information on how DJI drones are modified to be able to carry items and drop them?
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 Жыл бұрын
2:42 Gives new meaning to "Red Bull gives you wings"
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 9 ай бұрын
Especially when that bottle overheats under you, johny boy.)
@nightshade4873
@nightshade4873 Жыл бұрын
"Redbulls, gives them wings."
@kathleenmann7311
@kathleenmann7311 6 ай бұрын
Nightshade - 👍. 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦✌️
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
Now THAT is a fizzy drink!
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 Жыл бұрын
One key point here, the Ukrainians doing this is not reserved only for this battle. The US/UK/AUS/CA and nearly all other militaries around the world have Combat Engineers who specialize in improvised explosives, tactics, and operations, to adapt to the changing needs of the battlefield. I only mention the (4) Alliance nations above because they are most well known for it, especially British and American. The US has a vast array of tools available to the Combat Engineer to get the job done. Various types of explosives in various prepackaged quantities and shapes, various initiation devices as well. The only difference here is that the Ukrainians are filming all of this in real time and the world is getting to see it. They are also using it at a rate far greater than we have seen before which shows how dynamic and unpredictable the shape of the battlefield is. I find this absolutely fascinating. To note. The improvised drink bottle bombs they are making are akin to the WWII "Potato Masher" stick grenade that was used by Germany. Normal blast/frag grenades only have tens to a hundred grams of HE contained within. When you need something far bigger, and you need it to be dead accurate, and you don't have artillery, these fit the bill perfectly. Essentially a stop-gap.
@JelMain
@JelMain Жыл бұрын
That's how the flashbang came to be.
@Rudywtf
@Rudywtf Жыл бұрын
ok, but like... wouldnt a bullet kill that single person better than a plastic bottle filled with explosives that are going to be detonated without any actual case? i mean... look at a pressure cooker.. right. thats not a plastic bottle or a 1mm thick aluminum can that is already compromised.
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 Жыл бұрын
Look up "US Army Munitions Handbook" It's common practice to train and supply troops with the means to manufacture improvised munitions of every type imaginable. I imagine special forces or some other infantry units from other countries have a similar program
@alti1095
@alti1095 Жыл бұрын
Террористы используют такие методы, нормальные сапёры не будут мастерить что-то на коленке. ИМХО
@JelMain
@JelMain Жыл бұрын
@@alti1095 Your sappers aren't doing so well, are they? A Chinese labour battalion will reeducate you.
@pauliewalnuts240
@pauliewalnuts240 Жыл бұрын
The surprising part about this to me is the availability of those fuses. Explosives are common in the Millitary and obtainable for a civilian. But fuses would seem like the hardest part to aquire.
@GormHornbori
@GormHornbori Жыл бұрын
Either pilfered from a normal hand grenade, or spare parts. The drones have a maximum carrying capacity, and you want to maximize their utility. These improvised munitions is a bi product of using commercial drones for grenade drops. There are no NATO or Sovyet standard for grenades dropped from small drones, and everything dropped from these drones are improvised. In future wars I expect actual military drones in this size and role, and there will be mass produced munitions for it.
@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat
@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat Жыл бұрын
I suspect those fuses are from Police stun grenades, etc.
@randybugger3006
@randybugger3006 Жыл бұрын
I'ma look up DIY grenade fuses now.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
Making a bomb is simple,it's more difficult to make a fuze.
@AD-gi9zg
@AD-gi9zg Жыл бұрын
I think they probably have a stock of them, for such purposes. Probably bought in large amounts.
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
The IRA has a long history of improvised grenades, coffee can bombs were pretty devastating and multi purpose. They could be thrown like a regular hand grenade or used with a trip wire. The biggest difference was the arming method, instead of a traditional grenade fuse they used a 9v battery with a switch which was used to ignite a fuse leading to a conventional blasting cap. The glass fragmentation was horrific and could tear you to pieces, plus you can't use a metal detector to find the pieces so you have to either use an xray and a skilled surgeon or have a medic dig around to find each piece. Given the glass was sharp you can't just leave it in either, it'll just keep cutting you internally. The one seen in the video looks like ammonal to me or a wax like explosive liquified, mixed with bearings and poured into the bottles. As to why, I would speculate maybe they've captured large amounts of fuses without the shells and are repurposing them, it could also be they simply want a much larger blast when dropping them from drones. Each drone is expensive so you want to inflict as much damage as possible if the drone gets shot down. Each of those bottles looks to be double or triple the amount of explosives in a traditional grenade. Ammonal would be ideal, all you need is fertilizer and aluminium powder. So one person with a belt grinder could make dozens of these grenades daily. If I had to give them some advice it would be to stop mixing the bearings in with the explosive, instead wrap tape around the bottle to hold a layer of bearings on the outside to maximise fragmentation. If they really want to take it up a notch, use long 250ml cans filled with explosive inside a larger can with bearings in the larger can. So it has two layers of fragmentation from the cans combined with the bearings. They could also wrap chicken wire around the cans sort of similar to the AIM-9X early warheads to create expanding rings of metal that sever limbs.
@TonyM540
@TonyM540 Жыл бұрын
Hope I never upset you.
@Celciusify
@Celciusify Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that Drones are expensive, looking at what something equivalent would cost from an arms manufacturer, they're dirt cheap. And they're hard to destroy as well. Rather they can be hard to source. Few drones are sold to Ukraine, the vast majority are bought outside the country and transported in.
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@Celciusify Well considering they cost around 500-1000 and most of them seem to be purchased or donated by the soldiers/foreigners I'd say they are pretty expensive to lose. If it was the Government purchasing them it would be a different story but as it stands someone losing their drone means they now need to find and purchase a new one themselves or get one that was donated.
@specialingu
@specialingu Жыл бұрын
​@@WarlordEnthusiastthere a consumable now, I think :/
@Tunzbig
@Tunzbig Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education, some handy tips. :)
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark Жыл бұрын
3:00 i can think of another reason why these muntiions are being made. It's an example of trench art. Albeit the explosive kind if you notice a lot of them have messages. World war 2 veterans as well as modern veterans would say war is very boring punctuated with seconds of a mixture of pure excitement and terror.
@nicholasholloway8743
@nicholasholloway8743 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's more from the lack of proper munitions. Where oh where did all those billions go lol
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasholloway8743 money doesnt turn into munitions overnight ... there's a paper trail and congressional oversight.
@specialingu
@specialingu Жыл бұрын
​@@nicholasholloway8743we forgot the sheer scale of the war. 800+km front line, hundreds of thousands of troops.
@bob2233445
@bob2233445 Жыл бұрын
@@mr6johnclark haaaaaa. it's not like they're making new stuff. they're selling off expired shit from the 80's. oh yeah how's that congressional oversight going? on the front line doing inventory are they? or are the weapons now on the black market hm?
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 Жыл бұрын
They didn't send them a box with billions of dollars of cash in it you dumb right wing fool. Even if they had, what do you think Ukraine could do with a box of billions in cash....walk into Walmart in Kiev and buy C4, mortars, hand grenades,manpads, drones etc If you don't know how the US is supporting Ukraine and what these donations are composed of you don't need to be speaking when the adults are speaking
@Admin-5
@Admin-5 Жыл бұрын
A lot are also likely made by guys on the front who know they go through a lot of grenades so they make their own to increase their grenade supply
@brookwhiteman9810
@brookwhiteman9810 Жыл бұрын
As good as grenades are these Fanta bombs have much longe and more concentrated fragmentation range. The result of that one in the video strapped to a drones shows how the drone actually hits about 4 metres from the russian yet you see puffs of dust come from his whole body and he looks insta Kia.
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
Grenade fuzes are sent with the grenade bodies themselves...if you have a fuze you have the rest of the grenade. The reason for these devices is specifically for clearing Russian bunkers. The additional explosive power (about 5 times as much as a normal grenade) will collapse a Russian bunker when thrown in when being cleared...the normal grenades aren't as effective.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын
They'd be a lot more effective if they epoxied the fragmentation to the inside of the containers. The US found that loose ball bearings don't accelerate well during the development of the claymore mine.
@DonVetto-vx9dd
@DonVetto-vx9dd Жыл бұрын
Well, I don't think they can find epoxy in those situations though.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын
@@DonVetto-vx9dd any sort of glue will work
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын
@@PatchesFlannigan knowledge should be free and available, you don't get to decide what is and isn't appropriate. Bad people will always do bad things, one way or another. High explosives aren't exactly readily available for the average person and anyone who is willing to go to the trouble of making them is going to.
@Tunzbig
@Tunzbig Жыл бұрын
@@PatchesFlannigan but they can freely advocate and encourage the youth to mutilate themselves and take drugs that effect them for the rest of their lives. The anarchist Cookbook is outdated and not that informative. If said 17 year old wanted knowledge they would find it.
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark Жыл бұрын
2:40 These Redbull... *Will definitely give Ivan wings!*
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 Жыл бұрын
Only good purpose of a fashionable dumb drink.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 Жыл бұрын
Da comrade! It will set you free!
@StacheMan26
@StacheMan26 Жыл бұрын
Additionally, I'd imagine an improvised grenade that still (mostly) looks like the drink can/bottle it was made from would be quite useful when setting booby traps as it could quite easily be mistaken for normal detritus.
@PutlerXLO
@PutlerXLO Жыл бұрын
It's easier to leave a bottle of vodka with rat poison on the road as a weapon of mass destruction :)
@cheesescrust5399
@cheesescrust5399 2 ай бұрын
Or an ammo crate or case of wine that looks new full of high explosives, a tilt switch on the lid, a battery, and blast cap. The more enticing the higher likelihood someone would let their guard down.
@anonymous2513456
@anonymous2513456 Жыл бұрын
i think people over rate frag grenades, they are useful bit they don't do the kind of damage that most people think. Some of those craft produced grenades look a good deal more destructive than a factory made frag.
@cm275
@cm275 Жыл бұрын
Frag grenades are also somewhat limited by the fact they’re meant to be thrown. If you make the lethal radius too big then they kill the user as well.
@quakethedoombringer
@quakethedoombringer Жыл бұрын
⁠@@cm275which means that these grenades are fairly likely to be airdropped via drone. You don't physically have to throw these things so you can cram as much explosive and fragmentation parts as you can + the empty bottles are readily available. Plus it saves actual grenades and mortar rounds for frontline ground troops
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 Жыл бұрын
English please.
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois Жыл бұрын
@@cm275 Well for defensive hand grenades that create a lot of fragments the assumption is basically that you’re behind cover like a wall or in a trench when they explode. Offensive hand grenades produce less fragments as you don’t want to get killed by your own hand grenade. The German DM51 hand grenade (100.000 got delivered to Ukraine by Germany at the start of the war) allows you to use it either as a defensive hand grenade with the attached fragmentation mantlet that forms some 6.500 fragments or as an offensive hand grenade by removing the fragmentation mantlet.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
​@@cm275well you get defensive and attacking grenades now, the defensive ones are meant to be thrown from behind cover and have a much bigger kill range, attacking ones often dont even conrain any shrapnel and are used for room clearing and things like that
@EXO9X8
@EXO9X8 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna end up on a watchlist for liking this vid but it’s worth it.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Can't imagine what I'm on for making it haha. Thanks for watching!
@Quicks1lvr
@Quicks1lvr Жыл бұрын
and yet global news was so eager to tell us mixing Styrofoam in gasoline is fine
@Kawaiijihad
@Kawaiijihad 6 ай бұрын
Never fear your right to exist. Ever.
@AR-yd2nd
@AR-yd2nd 6 ай бұрын
​@@Quicks1lvr honestly based
@charliebrown7904
@charliebrown7904 Жыл бұрын
Another good type of object to use for such ideas - is the ballcock from cisterns: the plastic, round ballcock - cheap to purchase and conveniently shaped, ready to fill with whatever you want: and the mounting screw hole for the detonator after it is prepped.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
had been thinking about soda bottle grenades for a while, especially those small 33cl ones. interesting seeing that idea in practice.
@rb368370
@rb368370 8 ай бұрын
During the Vietnam War, personnel in my squadron put used Coke cans and other debris in the bomb fins. An after damage report credited a Coke can with a KIA.
@ramblin8674
@ramblin8674 Жыл бұрын
How are they getting fuses without the bodies. Do eastern block countries ship them separate?
@Prion600
@Prion600 Жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly from another video the fuses are usually shipped separately to grenade bodies. Could be the case that the grenade bodies went to another improvised weapon or these fuses are in excess. Either way, i can't confirm if this is the case but would make the most sense as to why they have these fuses seemingly everywhere.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 2 ай бұрын
during the cold war russia made millions of those fuzes and they're all over the place
@Awholeopinion
@Awholeopinion Жыл бұрын
They could also be utilizing left over fuse devices from other grenades that that were used to augment things like rpg’s
@benotyourboss
@benotyourboss 6 ай бұрын
In German there was this Red Bull slogan „Red Bull verleiht Flügel“ which mean „Red Bull is giving u wings“ well well well not what they meant…
@randompanda876
@randompanda876 Жыл бұрын
would these plastic and aluminum can casings lead to a diminished effect in terms of explosive power? i was under the impression you want a tougher casing to allow a higher pressure to develop within the bomb before it cracks open and fragments
@marcgartner1543
@marcgartner1543 Жыл бұрын
High explosive like C4 doesn't require a container to build pressure. It is devastating as is. Low explosive like gun powder needs containment to build pressure (a running start).
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo Жыл бұрын
1:42 What are those silver and black folders? Almost like a make-up palette
@doriancreber7139
@doriancreber7139 Жыл бұрын
there was a recent video of a drone dropping what appeared to be a round AT mine into a mortar trench - if had quite a long delay but the bang was quite large!
@tbdwoods
@tbdwoods 11 ай бұрын
Where are the ball bearings coming from? I can imagine being able to scrounge things up from enemy positions or having stockpiles of fuses etc. but it seems odd to have transported pounds and pounds of ball bearings to the front lines without some alternate purpose. at that point would it be equally cost effective and easy to send proper munitions?
@pickleman40
@pickleman40 Жыл бұрын
I suspect stronger hand grenades/ throwable explosive charges are something many military are looking into due to this conflict. I've seen many cases of handgrenades being surprisingly ineffective even at very close range.
@craigfjyp1
@craigfjyp1 11 ай бұрын
there's a mythbusters episode about grenades, sure it said if you're laying down they only have an effective range up to 1 meter, if standing up though it's a good distance, around 15 meters if i remember correctly.
@andrewsteele7663
@andrewsteele7663 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always find your video's interesting. In this case it's just like the chaps in the trenches in WW1 & Gallipoli, filling bully beef cans with powder and shrapnel. What was old is new again. Cheers
@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594
@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594 8 ай бұрын
In this case "red bull" does give you wings 😂😂
@joshmeads
@joshmeads Жыл бұрын
1 to 2 kg of explosive in one of these energy drink grenades is alot of explosive. Just comparing it to WW2 American grenades, they had roughly 65g of explosive filler. Just one kg of explosive is 1000g. 😳
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust Жыл бұрын
Frag grenades are using the casing as a pressure vessel to maximize the pressure spike of the explosion so when the detonation occurs the fragmentation is expelled at high velocities, the actual concussive damage radius is quite low. With these lightweight flimsy cans instead of preformed steel casings, you need to rely on the concussion of the explosive itself to create a lethal shockwave which requires a much larger charge.
@James-wd9ib
@James-wd9ib Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think they're miscalculating. 1,000 ml of water weighs exactly 1kg. Most soda cans and softdrink bottles hold only around 350 to 800ml. Even if plastic explosive weighs more than water, you still have to fill the space up with ball bearings and shrapnel. So I think it's impossible to fill a bottle with 2kg of explosive. Also, I boil a half kilo of rice every day and I can easily estimate any weight under 3kg. Now if you said that the entire bomb (explosive plus ball bearings) weighs two kilograms, then I might believe it.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
Grenade casing is plastic.The fragments are around the outside.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust Жыл бұрын
@@eugeneoreilly9356 not sure if you're replying to my comment, but M67 grenades are absolutely steel cased. The same is the case with the older M26 and Mk2.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
@@colbunkmust never used a steel cased grenade.Only used plastic cased ones (Swedish made),45 grams propellant,950 fragments.Very small pellets with serrated ring at top and bottom.Cant remember if they had a designation as it's a long while ago.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Жыл бұрын
It also adds some shock value against an enemy which is demoralizing when your best mates are being taken out by a soda bottle!
@matthaft2048
@matthaft2048 Жыл бұрын
As to why they aren’t using factory made grenades, i think a lot of it is these guys are also using what they are able to capture from enemy positions. Use the manufactured ones during the assault, scrounge up the captured munitions, resupply your self and keep pushing through the objective. As opposed to “We’ve taken point A. Now we gotta wait a few days or more to start on point B”
@shadowlab9543
@shadowlab9543 Жыл бұрын
ya probably just repurposing danger putty from various munitions, i think that's the purpose of the cluster munitions as well, crack one of those baby's open and you got a bunch of drone capable munitions.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 Жыл бұрын
These are all made during down time to extend the supply of the real grenades and such. Making homemade things like this is practice in every Combat Engineer Bible.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын
Probably because Ukraine is running low on supplies.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 Жыл бұрын
@Nobody-Nowhere as a former soldier who's job was explosives & land mines. We would build things out of pure boredom. There's literally a Bible for the Combat Engineers that explains how to make such items. One would use the to stretch your real supply longer.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 Жыл бұрын
@Nobody-Nowhere plus it leaves the real grenades to mission critical people like infantryman. These such devices would not be used by a ground troop storming a Dugout. One counts on reliability of equipment in that situation.
@racialconsciousness6996
@racialconsciousness6996 Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting to see the Taiwanese Revolver 860 drones in action in Ukraine. Those things should be insanely devastating.
@brookwhiteman9810
@brookwhiteman9810 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has some drones like that. There is a group called perun who use a drone that can drop 4 anti tank grenades and the SBU and groups like magyars birds use the r18 drone to drop 3 warheads that usually can destroy a tank In 2 hits. Magyars birds which is the most effective strike unit is now upscaling by 5x the size so that terrifying in terms of the level of destruction that might be reached.
@yoyogi52
@yoyogi52 Жыл бұрын
Easy to shoot down, they're loud.
@caav56
@caav56 Жыл бұрын
@@yoyogi52 Which is why they are typically used at night.
@farsiga2899
@farsiga2899 Жыл бұрын
You may be waiting for ever unfortunately. Haven't seen nor heard about those Taiwan drones since last year.
@Soundofwindonsand
@Soundofwindonsand 10 ай бұрын
I can't get over how proud the maker of that Fanta bomb seemed to be, he's filming that bomb like it was a 24 inch Brown Trout..
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen ukrainian civilians making these but they are like sophisticated molotov cocktails/unsophisticated incendiary grenades. They fill them with broken down styrofoam and an accelerant, acetone preffered but the trsditional petrol also used. Its basically napalm and the sudden pressure, even in plastic bottles blows it everywhere, including any added shrapnel and the styrfoam makes it stick to anything nearby. I also saw them using fuses for these sort of things triggered by blank shotgun shells, which fired when triggered by a trip wire attached to a kind of metal mechanical camp perimeter security system you can buy very cheaply online.
@barrymayson2492
@barrymayson2492 Жыл бұрын
If a thing goes bang with enough force and shrapnel people don't work any more. I suspect the larger explosive loads are for drones . Trying to throw a couple of kilos far enough to not get in the way would take a lot of effort.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
The one I haven’t seen yet is the copper cone in a pvc tube improvised anti-tank IED. Drone carrys it, lands on top of a tank’s engine compartment, detonates, and a jet of molten copper burns down through everything.
@brianfitch5469
@brianfitch5469 11 ай бұрын
Pvc couldnt probably take the pressure to keep the cone structure. At the shop i worked out just a 175psi air compressor use to blow it out.
@ottopartz1
@ottopartz1 6 ай бұрын
There are probably two reasons. #1 is just to construct something with much more oomph than a standard grenade. #2 is that if you look at the standard baseball type grenade, its not condusive to strapping onto a drone or loading into a release mechanism. Also the sappers building these items likely have access to lots of different explosives in good quantities so why not make use of them and build what suits the needs of the pilots! Additionally the black stuff in the first bottles shown is most likely the special compounded explosive that some Uncle Fester type came up with and is being shared amongst sappers. Supposedly much more energetic and hotter burning than any of the commonly used materials of either side.
@Praktical_
@Praktical_ Жыл бұрын
Cant believe so many people cannot understand that transporting any sort of military equipment (or any equipment for that matter) is harder and can sometimes take longer in an active warzone rather than a peacetime country.
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 Жыл бұрын
And with some of those resources being illicitly diverted. Some of the reports have been interesting to read through
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
@@josedorsaith5261such as? I keep seeing Vatniks claim this but I’ve yet to see any proof posted.
@oldphart-zc3jz
@oldphart-zc3jz 11 ай бұрын
The more technical items of interest are the release mechanisms and .stl files for the printed components. Striker-fired improvised fuses similar to how BDU-33 practice bomb spotting charges would be easy to make but they have heaps of Soviet grenades and parts so using fuses makes sense.
@harrisonbrodeen7604
@harrisonbrodeen7604 Жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of all inventions
@hardroaddavey5399
@hardroaddavey5399 Жыл бұрын
2.40 mark - suggests there is 1 to 1.2 kg of RDX in the bottle. How do you get that much in a 500ml bottle with enough effective shrapnel?
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 Жыл бұрын
As they say "when life gives you lemon you make lemonade". You got to go with what you have.
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 9 ай бұрын
In ukr vfu you go feed the dogs...)
@Steve-ol2ws
@Steve-ol2ws Жыл бұрын
Is the weight of the grenade sufficient to pull the pin when dropped?
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
Probably.
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 Жыл бұрын
Some of these are definitely way too heavy to be thrown by hand at a significant distance, which might also be the problem for the guy throwing them, especially if he needs to use them in the open field and he will be in the blast radius himself. But, that's situational. Still, the weight... That is why they are most likely resorting to drink cans; they are smaller and easier to handle.
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 Жыл бұрын
It’s also something to preoccupy yourself with while combating boredom
@kintro6087
@kintro6087 Жыл бұрын
You can put more sincerity into it when it's handmade. And the bond deepens.
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 9 ай бұрын
The bond beteween you and the overheated improv scrap detonating in your hand?)))
@einarhornraiser9019
@einarhornraiser9019 Жыл бұрын
Oh, wow! At around 2:54 that image of the five improvised grenades - the one on the far right actually has an old WWII-era Koveshnikov-type fuse! The UZRG-M replaced those during the war, so that thing's been hanging around since the 40s! It might not even fire after all this time.
@PearlTheFrenchie
@PearlTheFrenchie Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good information and learned some valuable lessons here. Keep up the good work and good luck with the channel
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Check out the Ukraine playlist for more.
@tridsonline
@tridsonline Жыл бұрын
👍 Great idea - also raises the possibility of detonating a package in the air to reach into trenches. If they can secure reliably-timed fuses/detonators, then it's easy to calculate the height to drop them from, in order to go off say 3m from the ground.
@grasstreefarmer
@grasstreefarmer Жыл бұрын
So do they have a supply of grenade fuses only or does using these fuses mean a grenade is now without a fuse? I thought they generally came together.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
They probably had supplies of fuzes or they think this is a better use of those fuzes. Some of these improvised grenades actually have grenades inside them.
@target844
@target844 Жыл бұрын
Another reason to make improvised munitions is that there is if there is no mass-produced ammunition suitable for the task. If you what a 3 kg warhead like the one in the soft drink bottle you can deliver from a drone hand grades are too light. There are no hand grands that are that heavy A 82mm mortar bomb has around the right mass but the fuze in them is built so they are from the acceleration when fires so you still need to modify them. If you use one you remove one you can fire from a mortar. You do that with a hand grande and some plastic explosive There are RPG munition with similar mass but why use a fragmentation variant if the om mad stuff works as well when dropped from a drone. HEAT warheads are a lot harder to make and we have seen lots of RPG-7 HEAT motion dropped from drones and used on PFV drones. Ukraine has requested Mk 20 Rockeye II cluster bomb from the US, not to drop from aircraft that would like to to dangerous but to disassemble them and use the anti-tank bomblets from drones
@bobhope4949
@bobhope4949 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t think plastic would hold much pressure, my question is where you getting all these fuses from if ya don’t have grenades, you got everything but the shell?
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
Man, that version of Red Bull definitely will give you wings, one way or another🤣
@fidelrosete4306
@fidelrosete4306 10 ай бұрын
Is using plastic bottles as containers reduces the radius of the explosion? Should it be harder so the pressure would be stronger? Pardon my english
@SBOTac
@SBOTac Жыл бұрын
How does non-stop taste compared to Red Bull? I've seen them in the STALKER games before. Overall, greak Ukrainian engineering philosophy, "You make do with what you have."
@Alex-Storm
@Alex-Storm Жыл бұрын
uhhh it is kinda difficult to describe the taste of an energy drink. it does not taste exactly like a red bull per se, but it has same sort of very-chemical taste and overall feel
@Shane10871
@Shane10871 Жыл бұрын
Another great video by the Armorers Bench.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын
The trolls saying this is what billions in aid look like in a war of national survival did not notice the level of Mcgyvering the Soviet Union did during its own war for national survival...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
They’re just reading what their scripts say.
@bob2233445
@bob2233445 Жыл бұрын
well if it was a war of national survival and they weren't getting billions in aid no one would be surprised. why should they have to mcgyver anything with all that aid? was the us military mygyvering fanta bombs in iraq? no. if they had, everyone would be saying "where did the billions go?"
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
@@bob2233445 because wars are expensive and you basically never have belong materials. Russia is supposed to be a military super power yet they scrounging together everything they can, even equipment from WW2. Military equipment is expensive if you haven’t noticed.
@operator9858
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
War has changed a bit since the 1940's bro...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
@@operator9858 not that much. The US Army has manuals on how to improvise weapons.
@ped0503
@ped0503 Жыл бұрын
Where do they get grenade fuses without a grenade? Can they be bought online and shipped to your door? Curious only. I have no plans on trying to make these at home.
@durbledurb3992
@durbledurb3992 Жыл бұрын
As long at the orcs go home I'd even agree to Pepsi bottles being used.
@SweatyFeetGirl
@SweatyFeetGirl Жыл бұрын
least racist comment
@TheRealRonRico317
@TheRealRonRico317 5 ай бұрын
Those RedBulls right there will definitely give you wings alright. Them angel wings that is.
@SergeiFragov
@SergeiFragov Жыл бұрын
Another reason soldiers have always worked on improvised munitions is boredom. Being in a war is 99% sitting around doing nothing and 1% fighting. Thinking of novel ways to kill your enemy is a good pastime.
@jimmystrickland1034
@jimmystrickland1034 6 ай бұрын
Dodging artillery fire everyday isn’t 99% doing nothing. You watch too many movies. You’re always on pins and needles in war, not twiddling your thumbs with boredom.
@AdamJensen-g3g
@AdamJensen-g3g Жыл бұрын
What level do you have to reach to unlock the crafting perk?
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 Жыл бұрын
Welp Fanta was created by German branch of Coca Cola so that's against Russia again😂
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 Жыл бұрын
Ja!
@orionide4032
@orionide4032 Жыл бұрын
It was for the coca cola company to get around the embargo. Like Unilever still sells their products to Russia. So does buying dove soap make me a Putin supporter?
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 Жыл бұрын
@@orionide4032 that's not even the point.
@yws2890
@yws2890 Жыл бұрын
What is the video for the Georgia Legion TNT block bombing? I'd like to see its effect
@elgoog7830
@elgoog7830 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine they haven't been doing this type of stuff, since black powder has been used on the battlefield. Pretty sure it's a no-brainer for 99% of men, "hey this stuff goes boom, let's put it into this!"
@spacecrabmusic2099
@spacecrabmusic2099 11 ай бұрын
2:44 Red Bull gives you wings
@paullllehtx
@paullllehtx 7 ай бұрын
So thats what 100+ Billion USD (and counting) gets you. With all the nato allies plus money pouring in they can't even get resupplied with grenades. Something doesn't add up. For a country that gets so much help through equipment and financially, it's nowhere to be seen. Almost like alot of that money is being laundered.
@dylancole4483
@dylancole4483 7 ай бұрын
It is 100% being laundered.
@ArsonalTech
@ArsonalTech Жыл бұрын
Curious why the fuses are so plentiful but the shell and explosive aren’t. Like, did they take grenades apart and harvest the fuses? Or are fuses often found not mated with the rest of the grenade?
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Some have the grenade inside the cans. Some just use the fuze.
@shrimuyopa8117
@shrimuyopa8117 Жыл бұрын
No, it's because money meant for military purposes is going elsewhere.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Nahh it's not. They have a ton of standard grenades. They want enhanced blast. There's not many grenades that fit their need so they've tried making their own. Very common with the drone teams too.
@thelilpeanutdotgov
@thelilpeanutdotgov Жыл бұрын
🤡
@kylan456
@kylan456 5 ай бұрын
The ingenuity of humans during wartime is absolutely insane.
@Dimitri-Jordania
@Dimitri-Jordania Жыл бұрын
Go Georgian legion!!! Слава Україні!!! 🇺🇦 დიდება საქართველო!!! 🇬🇪
@Tippet76
@Tippet76 Жыл бұрын
How is the pin pulled? Pre take off and then something keeps the spoon in place until an actuator drops it or is there a system so that the pin is pulled in the air?
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Жыл бұрын
They are recieving billions, and its not enough.
@TheBigOne0305
@TheBigOne0305 Жыл бұрын
As long as there are still Russians occupying parts of their country, looting, raping and killing their fellow countrymen, they will use any means necessary to take bake their homeland. If that includes showing plastic explosives into drink bottles, so be it.
@orionide4032
@orionide4032 Жыл бұрын
Would you stop being lazy and look where those "billions" are spent on! Its open for the public.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Жыл бұрын
@@orionide4032 I do look up what its being used on. Now get lost russijan troll.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын
The US still has debts incurred from fighting in WW2. War is expensive, LUDICROUSLY expensive...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
Yah wars are expensive.
@dave1secondago
@dave1secondago Жыл бұрын
never new about these , great vid bro
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mornibeats808
@mornibeats808 Жыл бұрын
РедБулл надає крила! аххахахахахах
@CoffeeFiend1
@CoffeeFiend1 Жыл бұрын
They're likely being used (mostly) for boobytraps and drones. IED's of course have a sophistication spectrum but generally they're more awkward and slower to deploy than regular grenades when being used as such. That said there's likely occasions where they can be deployed in that fashion where speed isn't of the essence. Ukrainians often try to capture enemy forces but on occasions where they won't leave the closet/room/subterranean section in a trench, they'll just throw in an explosive and in these cases it may as well be a crude cheap one.
@originalbinaryhustler3876
@originalbinaryhustler3876 Жыл бұрын
where is all the aid and weapons that our tax payers gone gone to? WTF another cash grab
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
In the tens of thousands of small arms, Bradleys, HIMARS, M777s, SAMs, Javelins, Stingers, Strykers etc etc.
@originalbinaryhustler3876
@originalbinaryhustler3876 Жыл бұрын
@@TheArmourersBench so Ukraine never had small arms or an army before the aid? GTFO here with ur bullshit talking like some paid for journalist
@thelilpeanutdotgov
@thelilpeanutdotgov Жыл бұрын
@@originalbinaryhustler3876🤡🤡🤡
@rafwoz1125
@rafwoz1125 Жыл бұрын
Mate, your pronounciation of Kropla Beskidu was spot on. Impressive :)
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Great to know. I've butchered some pronunciations in the past so trying my best with them. Thanks for watching.
@silverianjannvs5315
@silverianjannvs5315 Жыл бұрын
Where is the billions & billions $$$$ aid to Ukraine?
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
HIMARs, Stinger, Bradley, Javelin, HMMWVs, M777s etc etc.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
Do you guys have literally any other talking point?
@ericmattinen4728
@ericmattinen4728 Жыл бұрын
Besides paying for real weapons, I'm sure a portion is going to pad some bank accounts...
@Giganibba511
@Giganibba511 Жыл бұрын
​@@baneofbaneslike u mate defending Ukraine in media than go to Ukraine and help then penetrating the first defensive line out of 4 lines 😅
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
@@Giganibba511 lol thank you for proving my point.
@lachlanp3365
@lachlanp3365 Жыл бұрын
Come on red bull you like sponsoring extreme sports and stuff, what is more extreme than turning old red bull cans into grenades. It really gives new meaning to the slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings'
@Losowy
@Losowy Жыл бұрын
1:10 dropping from drones on trenches When it's dropped it "spits" Fire in direction of it's cap There were some videos of it being used
@НикитаКлейменов-г5й
@НикитаКлейменов-г5й Жыл бұрын
Россия великая страна бойтесь нас
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Nahh
@НикитаКлейменов-г5й
@НикитаКлейменов-г5й Жыл бұрын
​@@TheArmourersBenchА кто сильнее России???
@ffgg-566g
@ffgg-566g Жыл бұрын
​@@НикитаКлейменов-г5й we all are. America and ukrain. And soon everyone will be stronger when your homeland is a field of glass 😆
@МаркМаркович-ф1з
@МаркМаркович-ф1з Жыл бұрын
Великая но с "небольшим" отклонениями в МО и в снабжении
@МаркМаркович-ф1з
@МаркМаркович-ф1з Жыл бұрын
И я за Россию если что
@MakintheMeats
@MakintheMeats Жыл бұрын
Seems as though theyre looking for a larger hand grenade, maybe the normal hand grenades arent doing enough damage
@colemair5367
@colemair5367 4 ай бұрын
The guerrilla fighter does not just fight with what they have but rather fights with everything they have. If all you have is soda bottles then fight with Soda bottles.
@istoppedlaughing5225
@istoppedlaughing5225 4 ай бұрын
They could use steel pipe and use the bearings lined with the inner shell. And also cutting some groves out of the steel pipe as weak points to make sure the bearings go out of the pipe to various directions after the explosion
@royhooey3640
@royhooey3640 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Keep up the good work.
@Themuffinman1820
@Themuffinman1820 6 ай бұрын
Puts a whole new meaning to: "RedBull Gives You Wings" 😂😂😂
@suezsiren117
@suezsiren117 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@TheLittleDeath1
@TheLittleDeath1 Жыл бұрын
On youtube must be also a video of the anti tank mine granade. Looks like they drilled a hole in the side and put a fuse from a handgranade in it. Then they dropped it from a drone. If they are having the time to figure out the details. Then they can attach a parachute to it and having airburst explosions.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpTWl2ivqqp7ers
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole I spilled my coffee when I saw the Kropla Beskidu bottles lol
@dustyak79
@dustyak79 Жыл бұрын
If they got the fuses they got the grenades so they aren’t running out or not getting the aid . I’d suspect they are building them purpose built for a specific job
@aufsesserpremium
@aufsesserpremium 11 ай бұрын
Using plastic bottles saves weight, every percent less weight means more range and flight time for the drones. You have to meet the best compromise between flightrange and destruction.
@capcamouflage
@capcamouflage Жыл бұрын
Are UZRG fuzes shipped installed on the grenades or in the crate with them, or are they shipped separately? That I think would be the best indicator of if these are being made due to a shortage of grenades, or in an attempt to improve their effects.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Жыл бұрын
I recall that they're separate.
@ironman8257
@ironman8257 Жыл бұрын
separated. Fuses come in a coffee can alike container and explosive come in a wood crate
@IamNightRot
@IamNightRot 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this now I go to store and buy non-stop nrg drink!
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