DIY recessed traveller build

[@olivei2484]

I like the table knife. Reminds me of the kitchen spoons we had in the garage building my dad's boat, and the epoxy hand prints on the freezer door.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Sounds like good memories! The knife works great and fits great in small cups. Just don’t tell my wife. Lol

[@olivei2484]

@@ruddyducksailing Had jeans covered in so much epoxy, theyd stand on their own. 😁.

[@ostrycrf4503]

good job 👍⛵

[@ruddyducksailing]

Thank you

[@EdHAILE]

Far as I can tell, a cabin liner in any boat helps keep condensation off the interior of the cabin. I consider it a mild problem. I removed all of my liner in my G16 but for the portions than formed cabin bunks. I put in waterproof hatches in them and so count the storage area as also flotation in the event of a swamping. Liner gone opened up the hull. I cut out the box of the port locker and cut a corresponding locker to starboard, both opening up the midships and quarters. Midships has been devoted to a block of 9 closed-cell panels an inch thick, cut to hull shape. By measure I was able to get +336#. That with more under the fore berth and the coamings gives me 591#. Unsinkable despite a 200# keel. And yet still with all that storage in the quarters. Amazing boat. The G16 comes with 150# internal ballast in the form of lead pigs plus the keel for 350# total. After 15 years with it in and with in out, I am currently sailing with zero internal.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Having all that extra flotation seems like a good idea. I cut hatches in my cabin bunks for storage but they don’t seal so I’m living a little dangerously. I did not find any extra lead in my Newport so all of the ballast is in the keel, 250# I believe. It feels like enough and the boat is very stable for its size. In all your experiences have you ever had a close call when sailing or flooded the cockpit? So far I haven’t and I think it would take a large breaking wave to turtle the boat but I’m not sure.

[@sailinginlandseas4026]

Hoping to see y'all on Flathead this year! We don't have a red carpet but I think I have a beige one I could roll out :)

[@ruddyducksailing]

Lol, well we definitely don’t need any carpet rolled out but we do plan on spending at least a week there adventuring this year. It would be great to connect and gain some local knowledge of the area.

[@EdHAILE]

My boat is "Kittiwake" a Gloucester 16. Fantastic to have somebody putting up a whole website of the Bill Lapworth 16 that lets me look at my own boat in such beautifully majestic waters, and so well filmed. Is there any difference between N and G? None in the hull, keel, and rig. My mast has no spreaders, the boat has lifelines, I took out the cabin liner, and put in port and starboard lockers that open into the hull for storage. That and a bunch of other stuff I'd love to share. Had her since 2009.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Awesome. It’s pretty cool that these old boats are still going and taking their owners on grand adventures. As far as differences between Newport and Gloucester I am not totally sure as I’ve never owned a G16 but I think the keels weigh different amounts and the sailplan is slightly different ,but overall they are pretty much the same. I have debated taking my cabin liner out as well and would love to hear about that process. Thanks for watching our videos and for commenting! The small boat community has been so great to connect with.

[@EdHAILE]

A keel lock could make a difference. I don't have one. Miles Booth, who used to build G16s down the road from me in Gloucester County at the Gloucester, Lockley, and Newport Boats plant, said they did not equip them but he recommended that everybody who bought a boat with a swing keel should cement several layers of rubber patches to the top and the front in the keel trunk. I did my trunk top but I could never get a good cement stick on the front. Always gone by haul out. That's funny too because I actually smashed it when I was new to the boat. Didn't like the hum so I cranked into slack. Went over something under water and bammo it rode up and crush crashed down against the trunk forward. It wasn't quite fatal. I made it home OK and reglassed the whole thing. But I was lucky and would never sail slack cable even in deep water. But we are so much in discussion here, if you feel like the site is getting too much of me, I will be glad to exchange emails. Or would you welcome turning your site into a Lapworth 16 chat and get everybody in on this. There used to be a Gloucester site, but it fizzled.

[@ruddyducksailing]

It’s great talking to someone that has so much experience with the boat! Lately I’ve been checking out a Facebook group called the 16 sailing crew focused on the Newport Neptune and Gloucester 16 boats and there’s quite a few people in the group sharing their stories and modifications. I’m brand new to Facebook but it seems like a good resource for boat owners to connect

[@dougjacksonart]

Fabulous. Cozy workshop too

[@ruddyducksailing]

Thank you! Yes I definitely put some labor into the shop using secondhand cabinets from remodel jobs I did. Being clean and mostly organized makes it an enjoyable space to complete projects.

[@JenkinsBoatWorks]

I just found your channel. pretty sure we must be kindred spirits. I'll check out some more of your videos. thanks, Chuck

[@ruddyducksailing]

Hey Chuck , thanks for watching the videos! I watched a few of yours also, great work.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

awesome traveler install, ( not your run of the mill install , pretty innovative and outside the box ) I love the Harken stuff, it's a staple hardware on the great lakes....part of all my sailing memories.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Thanks. I probably think outside the box most of the time, lol. Harken is my favorite brand but they are pricey. Ronstan makes some great stuff too and tends to be slightly cheaper.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

@@ruddyducksailing yeah Ronstan makes good stuff, and a good thing at a lower price, as far as it has to ship....Lewmar has the best clutches with that patent...but you don't always need a clutch on smaller boats.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

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[@RulgertGhostalker]

@@ruddyducksailing All The World's Nations Need To Unite AGAINST The United Nations !!!! ( to keep sub-saharan africa from pulling the bottom out of the world's food supply ) they breed faster than the food grows, and don't cooperate with census work.

[@oumenelabrise2155]

Hi, I wonder if the added rigidity of the cockpit seat worth the additional risk of future water intrusion via the drilled holes? This demonstrates two things; polyester does not adhere very well to plywood and delamination does not always end up in moisture ingress or being caused by it. Your installation of the traveler is WAY better than the uses of spacer, which is the usual way. Keep posting. Final note, epoxy can cause contact allergic reaction, as you know it really a must to uses gloves. You never know if the contact will trigger issues ( or not ) and epoxy is so useful that being allergic to it is a bummer.

[@ruddyducksailing]

You are right about risk of future water intrusion. The next episode will show how we dealt with that by glassing over the whole seat area to make it one surface again . Hopefully this works well but only time will tell. And yeah I know better to not use gloves and hope I never become allergic. I’ve been using epoxy on and off for about 4 years with no issues but I don’t want to push it. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!!!

[@oumenelabrise2155]

@@ruddyducksailing Glassing over is a good ideal by sealing the drilled hole. Regards.

[@James-n2f6y]

Good call on full length traveller ,usualy only found on race and high performance boats makes trimming main sail easy and can depower sail fast without letting boom topping lift just just slide it all way the across

[@ruddyducksailing]

Exactly. It’s probably overkill on this little boat but I think it’s going to make sailing it even more fun with higher performance. I am used to using a traveler on my first boat and especially use it when racing so I’m excited to finish the project and test it out.

[@theresnobodyhere5778]

excellent for fast turns and gybes can turn boat on a dime ,so long as your well co ordinated with rudder and head sail this makes it simple without too much change to sail plan

[@bwhip]

You can use a syringe to inject epoxy thru the holes. It's pretty fast, and you can get by with much smaller holes (easier to finish). You can re-use the syringes if you clean them with white vinegar while the epoxy is still uncured.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Great idea. That would’ve been much quicker. I keep hearing of the vinegar to clean epoxy but I haven’t tried it yet. Much cheaper and safer than the acetone I’ve been using.

[@chriscarson2456]

Vinegar works great to get that epoxy off your hands. Greetings from Spokane.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Greetings from Rathdrum. Vinegar to remove epoxy residue is a great tip! I will definitely try that next time because I’m sure to forget gloves. Lol.

[@derkong7114]

Very Cool...

[@ruddyducksailing]

Thank you!

[@liamstone3437]

So I suppose an aft traveler like that used on a West Wight Potter 15 (2 pad eyes, and a piece of rope) was out of the question? I installed aft boom main sheet on mine to free up the cockpit but retained the rope traveler. For a boat the size of my WWP 15 I felt it was enough even though I am guilty of tricking her out in many other ways. Still have to remove the block from the center of the companionway. Greetings from Boise btw.

[@ruddyducksailing]

Greetings from a few hours north. Yeah I had the traveler ( bridle) previously set up on the transom and it worked fine. However the cockpit in the Newport 16 is huge in comparison to the potter and I think I can comfortably get away with a mid cockpit traveler to chase down some upwind performance ! Anyways it will keep me from fowling lines on my tiller and outboard motor. On a p15 I think a main sheet aft is probably a good call . Such cool boats!

[@EdHAILE]

You ask, Yes, plenty of close calls in plenty of boats. In fact I once capsized in my G16, sort of. Very blustery day, after 10 or 15 miles, reefing once or twice, I was back home in shallow waters, the last hundred yards. Should have known! I was sitting to leeward, keel a quarter extended, a big gust caught her all upstanding, and over she went before, I am embarrassed to say, I could uncleat the main. I swam-walked around and put a little weight on the keel which was half extended, very little weight, and she popped up OK. But that's not all! I was fully dressed and just could not leap back aboard. So I had to reach in, grab the sheet, then grab the rudder, and dragging behind the transom sail the boat into the marsh where I could stand up and step aboard. That's when I went out and bought a boarding ladder. I had previously removed the internal ballast so now put it back in. But after two or three years, like you, I decided the keel was plenty. My guess is that after a few idiots like me capsized and told Mr Newport about it, Gloucester decided to make theirs a little more family oriented, what? Two important observations. Since the keel was only half down, the boat's total center of gravity was considerably raised. Since the water was only three feet deep, the boat MIGHT have been tripped by the keel and so did not round up as she would in deep water when THE RUDDER HAS ALL BUT LIFTED OUT. Just thinking. ED

[@ruddyducksailing]

Oh wow what a great story and I’m super happy it ended well. I’ve noticed keel up makes a huge difference in stability and I’m always ready on the main sheet when it’s gusty( if it’s not caught on the keel winch) I have knocked down and broached my first boat, a balboa 26 and rounded up multiple times but haven’t pushed my Newport that hard yet. It will happen and hopefully it goes well. I think having the keel able to lock in place while pushing it hard in deep waters would be important but wouldn’t help at all in the shallows.

[@EdHAILE]

I would love to join the group but I have so many passwords and accounts all over the net that it is impossible for me to remember the right one and not get jammed. I haven't logged into my facebook "account" for nigh these ten years and have no idea really where to start. But the group sounds like a worthy sequel to the old one that petered out about 2016.

[@ruddyducksailing]

I hear you there. I’m fairly new to all this social media stuff but so far it has been good. The sailing community is awesome. Feel free to contact me via email- [e-mail]