This exactly what i like with DIY tutorials: any viewer can take the idea and tweak it with personnal preferences. And this is definitively what i am planning to do. Thanks for the video.
@TrueSoundTV4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!!
@MikroHDMOVEMENT5 жыл бұрын
I made some of my own. Very good thanks for the tips
@SavageDarkness7 жыл бұрын
one thing you may want to consider is wood glue one the inside as opposed to caulk. It WILL take longer but it is stronger. You do not omit screws for wood glue, you add them in conjunction. You may also add caulk on the outside if you wish for added security. I will likely build some of these using dove tails and wood stain. But to those not at that level, this is a good introduction video.
@joeygonzo4 жыл бұрын
gorilla poly glue to fill the gaps
@prodbydramatic2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna point out the same thing but you hit the nail on the. head
@shogunai2 жыл бұрын
If you actually want a SEALED box, you want to use silicone on the inside edges, with liberally applied wood glue to join. For obviously reasons, it is a superior product for creating air tight seals.
@PDXcitable11 ай бұрын
A glue made specifically for wood joinery like Titebond is going to make a stronger initial joints. But as a furniture and custom cabinet maker, I wouldn't use if here, for a few reasons. One, unless you strip the screws or split the wood on the column, screws and caulking are going to be plenty strong enough, so shouldn't be an issue there. But the main issue is in this application sound vibration dampening should be a high priority. And a silicone caulk is going to be vastly superior for that. And the same properties of elasticity that make it suited for that will also give more flex in the joint to help keep the screws from backing out when the wood shrinks in dry winter months, especially when subjected to hours and hours of vibration when using the speakers. Personally I'd pick a caulk with a higher silicone content like OSI Quad because it has even more elasticity and actually bonds pretty well just wood-to-wood without screws, but that's only a tiny improvement.
@officialWWM3 жыл бұрын
Man, that intro kills me every time 😂
@grizzlythief Жыл бұрын
Just FYI the materials list has 2x the material needed. Onl y need (2) 1x6x8 and (2) 1x4x8. Just built these yesterday. Great idea and seem sto work well!
@olafschermann15922 жыл бұрын
Great idea, thanks 4 sharing
@godlytouchmedia3 жыл бұрын
Amazing tips... We're gonna try this in one of our studios
@bedriven68364 жыл бұрын
Love these stands. Put these together for my new Elacs. Stained them with espresso
@TrueSoundTV4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, that has to look amazing!!! Yeah in my studio they are hidden by my mixing console so i went with some bland black paint ha
@kenthobbs95274 жыл бұрын
What Elac's did you get?
@peterlessey75483 жыл бұрын
A very good Idea that I and tried and I really works.
@jean-baptiste9230 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking going with big pvc pipe and sand, but not sure how yet and if i’ll find a way to fix wood pannels on both end, but if i do i could use 4 legged stands
@Yahoomediaclub4 жыл бұрын
Great Video 🎧⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@RAZALAHORI3 жыл бұрын
hey brother thanx for the idea 💡 i got a question what did you end up using? as you mentioned you were gonna try spikes and that rubber material
@stacymillard26706 жыл бұрын
I would have used wood glue instead of caulk but other than that good job!
@LouCarlozo4 жыл бұрын
Even some very expensive stands you can buy online suck--they're not especially secure and can be tipped over with a hard bump--so that's an added bonus to this DIY. For a lot less money, thanks to this video, I can get much better stands. I would not build shims in, though; I'd rather use separate shims on the bottom, as built in shims will actually be useless, or even a hindrance, if you move to a different studio location.
@i.dig.wax.58055 жыл бұрын
Prime all the wood and lightly sand before assembling and the caulk will have a better surface to bond to. Prime again before topcoat and you'll get a better finish.
@PDXcitable11 ай бұрын
Small tip: If you have a random orbit sander, use that to sand the exterior joints on the column during the sand filling process. Kills two birds with one stone, finishes the joints and the vibration will help pack the sand, reducing air gaps/settling and improving dampening.
@Its_MITCH_El Жыл бұрын
Can you put links to the rubber and spikes?
@Odihmantich6 жыл бұрын
Hey, man. Great video. Can you tell me where those decoupling spikes go, please? Are they mounted to the bottom of the speakers or to the bottom of the stands?
@pietpompies73816 жыл бұрын
The go on the bottom of the stands.
@Odihmantich6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@oscaroses12783 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Costa Rica me gusta tu trabajo me da buenas ideas gracias
@arcturusbbqsausagemaking24356 жыл бұрын
Nice job..... well done
@felixlaboy14535 жыл бұрын
Great video. What type of sand do you recommend and I also have a set of B&W speaker stands
@beatprocess2 жыл бұрын
this is great
@chuckcostello51677 жыл бұрын
I really like your design here, even though I think 50 pounds of sand might be a bit excessive lol I'm no professional woodworker but I've done my share of projects with MDF to know that even if you're using self-drilling screws (which is what it looks like you might be using), you should still pre-drill at least the MDF because if you don't it can cause it to crack. Granted, these stands are going to be stationary and relatively non-load-bearing aside from all the sand, but it's just something to keep in mind. Also a counter-sink bit would help you get those screws further below the surface so you can fill those holes better and get an even cleaner look. Great project overall.
@TrueSoundTV7 жыл бұрын
Yeah from what i have read, the heavier the better when it comes to de-coupling. So yes if i was putting screws through the side of MDF, absolutely you would want to pre-drill. These construction screws are self tapping and never split the wood even on thin pine 1/2in boards. Thanks for watching!
@gordthor53517 жыл бұрын
Chuck Costello Yeah, MDF isn't as durable as plywood or solid wood,but when it comes to resonance it is considerably more inert than plywood or wood. A simple rap of the knuckles on all 3 makes it obvious which is best. Not to mention the smooth surface and ease of sanding if you are only looking to paint it.
@kos.studio93047 жыл бұрын
great stuff as always
@TrueSoundTV7 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you!
@jeffsloane86284 жыл бұрын
Infinity's with Polycell tweeters? Hell yeah!
@TrueSoundTV4 жыл бұрын
Haha yes they are!
@johnpoo16624 жыл бұрын
1:42 spikes by definition COUPLE. Decoupling is what rubberised pads do (Sorbothane etc).
@StevenPule212 жыл бұрын
Is it best to sit the speaker directly over the stands or let's say a different density material such as Rock Wool over the DIY stands or maybe even ISO Acoustics over that?
@sureshraja2026 жыл бұрын
I replicated this exactly and got myself a great speaker stand that costed about $50 for a pair.
@TrueSoundTV6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Thanks for watching
@sureshraja2026 жыл бұрын
champer slimmerthannone one pair for $50. Used cheaper materials.
@acegh0st5 жыл бұрын
Suresh Raja - you still happy with these? I’m about to build some monitor stands and I’m still still deciding on the exact design. Any weaknesses in this setup that you’ve found over the past year? I had some that I made with 3” PVC pipe as the riser which worked pretty well, but I’m considering changing it up this time.
@BLMeredith873 жыл бұрын
Looks nice but I'd probably use wood glue for real strength to join the planks, then seal off the inner corners with caulking anyway in case of leakage.
@chrisstrobel34394 жыл бұрын
Cool vid if your the DIY type, if like me your not you can get basically this stand already built from Rockville on Amazon for $80.00, then buy some sand and fill em up and your done.
@aro79752 жыл бұрын
Price for all parts ?
@delimac595 жыл бұрын
Any ideas for raising a pair of heavy loud speakers. Approx 3 feet by 2 feet?
@DaRooMN2 жыл бұрын
Is that a drum hanging from the ceiling ???
@ShotByHawkDown6 жыл бұрын
Would these be able to hold up some 10s Speakers?
@ganeshc65824 жыл бұрын
Did they make a difference??
@svtcontour4 жыл бұрын
You know, wood glue is a much better and more logical option for wood, than caulking. Just saying....
@TrueSoundTV4 жыл бұрын
For strength yes, but i find that i still get small holes or gaps even with wood glue, so i went with the caulk. Its been 3 years with no structure issues or sand leaking so it still worked out!
@diywithalittlehelp91626 жыл бұрын
How did you hide the speaker wire? Also do you have a link to the spikes you used for them?
@Dave308674 жыл бұрын
Filling those stands 3/4 s would be better so they do not get top heavy and fall over if knocked. If you do not have kids this will not be a problem they wont get touched or knocked over .
@biziluxgames8924 Жыл бұрын
yeah I have a 5 month girl, and i'm trying to make stands that are child proof... my back speakers are 11kg, and they are near the couch and you walk around them a lot... and when she is older, she could climb onto them from the couch...30kg falling down can do a lot of damage to small bones i'd imagine. I might have to use one screw for more security... its hardwood underneath so it would be criminal, but safety first. Another option is to make them as low as possible and make a bit different design to fill only the base with like 20kg of sand... that would probably be tip proof
@capecrusader53892 жыл бұрын
GREAT
@TheYzeman3 жыл бұрын
could you use pea gravel instead of sand? Don't have to worry about it leaking out as much maybe.
@armoredsaint6639 Жыл бұрын
Glue would have been an excellent choice!
@huirongjin5 жыл бұрын
I would cover the top grain of wood with masking tape before filling the sand.
@lunaruzz76396 жыл бұрын
13:59 PLEASE HELP ME ! My englisch is not so perfect... please can you say me for what it this folden peace of paper in it ??? i dont understand it -.- respect for this work !! you inspiring me a lot !! the only question i have is for what is this peace of foldn paper ? :/
@repentandfaith6 жыл бұрын
It was used to keep the stand balanced all around. One side was leaning so he added the paper to level. Hope this helped
@lunaruzz76396 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys
@massv9535 жыл бұрын
Save yourself time building and trying to get something level by using tube steel beam. They sell it in various sizes(I like the one thats 4x4 size) and you can get it cut perfect lengths when you buy it, then all you have to do is sit the tube on a bottom/top plate(.25" sheet steel works well) on the ground, make a quick spot weld and check your level up top, if it looks fine complete the weld, flip it and do the same thing for the top plate. I then drill a hole in the center of the top big enough to fit a funnel into and fill with DRY sand almost to the top. I then use a little bit of expanding insualation foam sprayed into that hole until it fills the top of the cavity and comes out of the hole, let this harden and level it off with a knife/sandpaper(this seals all of the sand inside). I like to drill a smaller hole on that same top plate that lies just on the backside of the steel tube, use this to route speaker wires through(you can use a black wire channel with a sticky backing attached to the steel beam for a clean look, stuff is cheap on amazon)
@scarydudu58263 жыл бұрын
More simple is to buy a metal table feet, 2 pcs of pal and 5 screws. It will look better and is easy to do.
@rectape7 жыл бұрын
Great video. What did you ended up using for additional decoupling between spikes, rubber and carpet?
@TrueSoundTV7 жыл бұрын
I ended up using the spikes!!! They had the least amount of vibration transfer
@ike75394 жыл бұрын
I bought *concerete blocks* from home depot. *25lbs* each and when you buy two thats 50lbs. 8x6x16 is the measurements. 32" height is perfect. Cost? :)) $1.25 each. So for $6 you have your stands and can be painted of course and figure out dampening foam or material...
@gregorycollins30964 жыл бұрын
Do you have a picture?
@ike75394 жыл бұрын
@@gregorycollins3096 I am about to move and sold every thing. But if you go to Lowes or Home Depot etc you can figure it out. It may not fit in a nice living room furniture set up but for business,garage, mens cave... the cost is nothing
@wjvlodek87694 жыл бұрын
That's actually a good idea.....
@mhighmusic5 жыл бұрын
Your voice sounds so much like Saul from Breaking bad / Better call Saul!
@Three-Chord-Trick Жыл бұрын
Is there any good reason why I shouldn't use a stack of toilet rolls? Wouldn't they absorb any vibration and resonance? I'm not joking.
@roblotomy5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the speakers still revererb the top plates?
@davidcole65684 жыл бұрын
Then you could use isolation pads
@Mixedbyjojo3552 жыл бұрын
We want to see measurement data before and after! Until then they’re just for decoration!
@meowmeowmeow12435 жыл бұрын
How do i know when I`m cocking it too much ?
@SapiaNt0mata5 жыл бұрын
when too much of it oozes when you add screws. a bit ooze is normal.
@jasonmeanshealer5 жыл бұрын
Haha this was too easy
@lord_toad4 жыл бұрын
When white squirts erratically
@armansrsa5 жыл бұрын
@10:40 you use a piece of wood on the floor and check the level of the wood. Why? Isnt the floor level? Couldnt you just check the level of the floor?
@acegh0st5 жыл бұрын
Arman Srsa - I’m pretty sure he uses the piece of wood on the floor, so that if he found it to be out of level, he could use some shims to make it level before he checks the level of his stands. You wouldn’t be able to do that if you we’re just using the floor. He’s also on hardwood floors, which are sometimes slightly uneven and could throw the level off. I’m assuming the floor/wood was already level, so he didn’t have to include the shimming step, although he should have mentioned it.
@VenVile5 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that spikes are for coupling, not decoupling.
@Kurama19075 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what you mean with that?
@squoblat4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, but I could make a drinking game around the amount of times you say "go ahead".
@aces32614 жыл бұрын
Great but use wood glue next time
@ericjohnson8293 жыл бұрын
You probably have to split the sand bags open dry out the sand in the sun for a few days before you use it in your stands, there's typically moisture in the sand bags.
@Aurelien.Belliard4 жыл бұрын
Just a french woodworker "proverb" : It’s not the sticky glue that sticks, it’s the glue that pushes the sticky glue that sticks
@tinkerer675 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I will trust my speakers on these stands. I know it's costly get a router so you can create stronger joints, but it is needed in this case especially if your speakers cost a fortune.
@themagicalducklings2 жыл бұрын
The supply list has (4) 1"x4"x8' This would be enough for 4 speaker stands as each speaker stand is made by cutting (1) 1"x4"x8' in half... The wood list should read (2) 1"x4"x8' & (2) 1"x6"x8'
@marcoserafino8352 жыл бұрын
I have never felt comfortable with the decoupling of the speakers from the stands, for me it is better to pair them to allow you to download and eliminate the vibrations towards the floor.
@snktrd6 жыл бұрын
Hey bud great video, I will be building these very soon. I have a question, why did you use pine? Can a pressure treated wood be used? Is there a specific reason for using pine? thank you for the info.
@stacymillard26706 жыл бұрын
I can answer that for you as I have built a bed frame with head and foot boards and an entertainment cabinet all from pine. Two words, it's cheap!
@massv9535 жыл бұрын
hardwood would be preferable but pine is cheap
@wjvlodek87694 жыл бұрын
I was considering to make a set from plywood....but after watching they video, I will use pine (cheap and already cut to width/less cutting). One responder said that hardwood would be better......I think since you are using sand the wood type really would not make a difference (however, I would not use MDF for bottom or top...I would use pine or a nice grade of plywood). I am not an acoustics engineer...but I dabble in woodworking (PS: I think the sand is a good idea).
@DBIIIStudios Жыл бұрын
Wood is so expensive now it’s cheaper to drop $200 on a set in stands. I almost built some yesterday and the total was over $200 so..
@FlabberQuestion9 ай бұрын
Why not just use some gravel? That won't go thru anything so not necessary to make these perfect seals.
@enzogalland87834 жыл бұрын
Spikes don't decouple shit ! They just concentrate the vibrations to specific points. They are only usefull if you THEN absorbe the vibration they transmit.
@GPak-iz3sk4 жыл бұрын
MDF is not wood bro. its a paper but squashed in with big preasure. I`m upgrade my studio, advice to mixing people music? peace from Poland.
@decibellone6963 жыл бұрын
decent idea. your woodworking skills are another story...lol. good idea though.
@TrueSoundTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks lol but I built these with minimal tools so that it seams more doable to those who don’t have a full wood working shop and all necessary tools.
@oldarkie38805 жыл бұрын
Wood glue not caulk, blocks top & bottom
@michaelmcadams67912 жыл бұрын
Good info but that felt like torture sitting through the incredibly slow moving dialogue.. slowly stating every word with a heavy dose of "you know", "kinda sometimes", "ummm" and just beating it to death with the unnecessary filler and being sooooo slow to reach simple points. I understand if you feel important when you are trying to explain things but this video probably could have been cut in half if you had more effective dialogue.
@joeymc52722 жыл бұрын
Why would you need 4 1x6x8’ and 4 1x4x8’ when you have 8 pieces that are roughly 37-38” long? You on need 2 of each duh! Lol 😂
@TrueSoundTV2 жыл бұрын
Yup I messed that up!
@Theburrowingid5 жыл бұрын
Sand needs to be dry.
@truthserum52024 жыл бұрын
Using caulking is the wrong approach and adds almost zero strength to the joint. Like the previous poster said, wood glue only.
@TrueSoundTV4 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice opinion but I’ve had these stands for three years now, they hold up 2 very heavy speakers, haven’t moved, cracked, or have had any mechanical issues so I’ll stick with what I said in the video
@wjvlodek87694 жыл бұрын
@@TrueSoundTV How high did you make them (and why...as I listen to my music half the time sitting down and half the time while cooking)? Did you consider tilting them upward (a bit)? Did you find that the sand made a discernible difference (compared to your previous setup)? THANKS for the video!!
@maxjasmine5 жыл бұрын
" Mr Sandman lend me your ear"?
@Matt_Morgan3 жыл бұрын
You want to be using silver sand, not actual beach sand 😆
@karlphilipp90182 жыл бұрын
Poor Boy. No Table!
@endofword20127 жыл бұрын
I'm shure if you take a 12 inch wheel from a wheelbarrow and make a stand with it will cut sound beter than sand.
@sheltiemanva6 жыл бұрын
Even though you were kidding...I will answer your post. The issue with this would be the rubber allowing the speaker to move back and forth during high energy transients. As the woofer extended, the speaker would actually push itself off axis, making things muddy. Some speakers want heavy stands...others are designed for light. But every speaker needs super rigid mounts to sound their best. (Even electrostats) HANDMF (Have A Nice Day My Friend)