Thank you! Following your instructions I have replaced my wasted oem shocks and struts with koni special activities. Massive improvement. This is the way to go for a nms 2012 Passat. Exactly
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Love hearing things like this!!! Glad the video helped!
@F15H3RM4N5 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 it is the video for diy Passat nms front suspension! I did this in my driveway. I was LUCKY to have a single 12-point 15/16 long socket that kind of fit the axle bolt without much slop. Could not have done it without this video. h&r rear bar is a recent upgrade too.took a twisty desert road at speeds that would have been impossible yesterday! Thank You
@cebastienlarochelle81825 жыл бұрын
I did the same on my 2011 jetta. Lowering springs are a bit stiffer and rides well but it’s not low enough in my opinion. It’s an « oem plus » mod. I think i might buy a set of coilovers if i decide to lower my next car.
@mitch98947 жыл бұрын
The KPS's look sick!
@rubioalejo4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to compare the car before and after with the same wheels!! Those after market wheels are bigger size.
@Werewolfmage5 жыл бұрын
Your video just showed me how to replace my struts properly on my 2014 Thank you!
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
No problem!!!!
@Werewolfmage5 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 I never knew there was a tool to spread it apart. That tool has been ordered.
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes it way easier, you can also make your own in a pink by using a big Allen head socket bit and grinding it down into the shape of the spreader bit.
@Werewolfmage5 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 though yours is clean. I live in the Salt belt. Fluid film helped a little
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Mate... we live in Wisconsin LOL. His was clean because it was brand new at the time haha
@garrettmartin62674 жыл бұрын
Little FYI, generally those bolts that are torqued to x amount of ft lb and then an additional x° are "torque to yield" and should be replaced. It may never be an issue but those bolts aren't as strong as they were after the very first torque down at the factory. Edit: otherwise loved the vid, have a '12 Passat tdi. Plan on doing those exact springs. Very helpful!
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
I’m aware, not sure why we didn’t mention it here. Thanks for the comment!
@jsweck58094 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the torque specs!
@kyleheron382 жыл бұрын
Was he already running spacers? Springs look great!
@WarPigRS4 жыл бұрын
Great, now I'm going to have to order some black KPS's for my GT. Lmao
@jb-wranch7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kinda agree with Malcolm
@spencerclark87344 жыл бұрын
Dope video guys! Also, LOVE the We The People tattoo, TRUTH!
@OBYourThirst Жыл бұрын
Shouldnt you get shorter bumpstops like the golf R or GTI when getting lowering springs like on a passat?
@Mano_on_Point Жыл бұрын
I have a very small clunking sound when hitting a bump or doing slow parking maneuvers only. Happens once in a while but it’s annoying when it does so I just need to possibly retorque?? I’ve driven on the new spring for about 250 miles.
@joshwalling4633 Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, super hard to diagnose suspension issues like knocking over the internet. I would start by checking if your swaybar endlinks are in good shape, and the other culprit could be a worn upper strut mount (I usually recommend replacing these with new ones when you do the job). I would also check to ensure the spring is seated properly in the spring cup of the front strut. Just some things that came to mind I guess, but definitely not an exhaustive list of items to check. Worn ball joints could also be a culprit. Lots of options here but either way you need to just get in there and have a look around.
@michaeldiggs66532 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 passat. What do I need to do this suspension modification. I also would like to know what tires an rims were used in the video. Where there any problems later on. 🤔
@joshwalling4633 Жыл бұрын
No problems later on, I think the wheel and tire size is in the description. You just need springs and you are good to go.
@JohnKaufmann5 жыл бұрын
Great effing video!!! Thx so much for taking the time to do it.
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@akudij5 жыл бұрын
Any updates on any additional mods ? And if so any videos coming for it
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, this was a friends - brothers car haha
@partizan58114 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎. Is that rims and tires are the same size with OEM R LINE 19 ?!?! Coz I like that OEM wheels ... just want to do it lower 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼 . Have exactly 2017 R line in white color 😁
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember the wheel specs, might be 20? Not sure
@Malik-jt8hi4 жыл бұрын
imagine having a clean passat, couldn’t be mine lmaoooo
@gigi19mai14 жыл бұрын
Please confirm that the ball joint nuts to control arm (3 nuts) are being torqued to 74ft-lb (per ECS Tuning) or 44ft-lb as you specified. Also, are you replacing drive axle bolt and all nuts? Is it necessary?
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
Replacing the drive axle nut/bolt is definitely one you will want to do. No clue on torque specs man.
@RestoJay9 ай бұрын
I have a Passat r line estate B8 with this Springset fit?
@bachiii00794 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a 2020 Passat R Line, are there special springs or I should get the H&R Sport Springs? Thank you
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
The H&R springs should still lower the car.
@Given2Fly71734 жыл бұрын
What size are those wheels guys? I have a 2017 Jetta and want to start working on wheel size and possible lowering something similar to this!
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember, check the description to see if I put it in there. Atleast 19”, might be 20”. But on a Jetta, I wouldn’t go any bigger than 19. If you want easy and garanteed fitment, pretty sure 19x8.5 et45 works really well. Double check on the forums to be sure though.
@Given2Fly71734 жыл бұрын
Josh Walling appreciated!!
@icxcnika5556 жыл бұрын
I would not forget about that alignment, because if you do you will have inner tire wear or something .. pretty much ruin your new tires
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you looking out, but of course we got it aligned. You just can’t do it right away because your suspension settles over the next week or so - ruining any alignment you got right away.
@markuslappalainen7712 Жыл бұрын
What size tyres did you put in ?
@caiomoonlight3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! What is the tires size/dimensions guys?
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
Can’t remember. By the looks of it, maybe a 225/35/19. Wheels where 19x8.5 et No Clue.
@BSxyKrazy6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a list of all the tools needed to install the springs?
@spawntohell5 жыл бұрын
24mm bi hex onlyfor front axle shaft bolt; other sockets 21mm, 18mm, 17mm, 16mm, 13mm , hex bits 4 mm for counter holding drop link knucle and 7mm for strut shaft, swan(dog) neck 21mm ring spanner for top nut of the strut shaft; 21mm, 18mm, 13mm combination ring spanner; triple square (spline) M14 and M10 (for 4 wheel drive only); spring compressors and vw spreader 3424 or a 1/4 ratchet to release the bottom of the strut; 1/2 ratchet; torque wrench; axle stands and a car jack. VW says the bolts and nuts cannot be reused...and supposed to use new ones... new ones come with pre applied thread lock. Do not undo the drive shaft bolt more than 90 degrees if the wheel is on the ground...as bearing damage can happen.
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the solid reply!!!
@andresparrow29715 жыл бұрын
How low can you go with lower springs on oem struts without blowing them? You put the lower springs on the car but didn't change struts.
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
It is not ideal to use OEM struts, but if the drop is mild then it can be done. What you don’t want to do is lower it to the point where you bottom out the strut. It is always a better idea to change the struts out as well, but in this case it isn’t what the owner wanted to do.
@maveric07387 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to remove the axle bolt and control arm bolts.
@Pancho4dummies6 жыл бұрын
You don't but it's a lot easier with it removed, specially when dealing with stock struts, they are pretty long.
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
There are alternative methods, but I’ve found it to be a massive pain because the stock springs decompress to a very long length and make it hard to get the shock out of the knuckle. Probably done this job like 20 times and it’s what has worked the best for me.
@coldboltz73905 жыл бұрын
Wow
@656stan4 жыл бұрын
What offset for the wheels and what tire size?? Any rub???
@Smallyardguy6 жыл бұрын
What did he do with the other rims? I’m interested
@jaimeestrada19656 жыл бұрын
Can you please let us know the list of tools needed? Such as sizes and such? I have the springs however I don’t have an extensive amount of tools. Thanks!
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
You are going to want a full set of tools to tackle a job like this. I made this a while ago so I don’t recall all the tools - but you could always pull the front wheel off and take a look around to see what you’ll need.
@JC-wr2tp4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what kit did you use and what difference did It make over an above stock. I have DCC and struggling to find anyone that can help. I’m based in the UK. Thanks
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
These were the H&R spring kit. This car didn’t have DCC, but the companies should say if it will work or not. Check to see if KW, Eibach, or H&R offer a kit for your car. Lowering springs do just that, lower without much added harshness. The car is a little stiffer, sure, but still very compliant.
@HALAMADRIDCR76 жыл бұрын
I really want to do it in my car , same as your car , but it’s blue , I don’t know how to do it
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
Well this video teaches you how! It’s a DIY after all.
@CaptainBackFat2 жыл бұрын
You put sport springs on stock dampers? Bad idea. I see so many people make this crappy mistake. Also, what are safety "galsses"?
@joshwalling46332 жыл бұрын
The car drove great, and as far as I know, hasn’t had an issue with the dampers to this day. It clearly isn’t ideal to lower it on stock dampers, but if you are only getting the “sport” springs (as opposed to race, which have a larger drop) I think it’s fine. Also, if your shocks fail, then your springs are still OK and you can upgrade to the better shocks later down the road.
@gerardogonzalez93223 жыл бұрын
Quick question. How does it ride with this spring? Compare if you get coilovers ?
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
Coilovers would be more stiff. The springs are best for wanting a firmer ride than stock, while getting a mild drop.
@gerardogonzalez93223 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 thanks I drive a lot so I get spring with bilstein would be fine ? What you think ?
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
It’s a classic combo, you can’t go wrong
@landonc8762Ай бұрын
I kid you not I own this exact car. Same springs, same wheels, same car.
@rickpena753 жыл бұрын
What size was the hex size for the pinch bolt for the knuckle
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
Somewhere between 17 mm and 19mm, can’t remember.
@martindelgadillo86205 жыл бұрын
Would this spring damage my suspension or wear it out .?
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
No, not significantly, but from what I hear you have to trim the bump stops in the rear. It should be said, that it is always better to get shocks paired with springs instead of using the OEM springs. That being said, I’d do this mod in a heart beat to get a little bit lower without sacrificing much ride quality.
@martindelgadillo86205 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 so you think is a good idea and safe mod .? does it ride the same , or is it more bumpier
@thomaslingard82926 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Passat GT that I'm getting the H&R Sport Springs on. Even with the .6" lowering kit from the factory the front end looks like I'm ready to go off road. I hope the H&R's will bring the wheel gap closer and make the ride height respectable.
@cuckoo4watches6 жыл бұрын
Thomas Lingard did you ever swap out the springs on your v6 Passat GT? i have the same car and was considering the H&R Sport springs as well. thx
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
The procedure will be the same, if that is what you’re asking.
@cuckoo4watches6 жыл бұрын
Josh Walling no, not what i was wondering. i wanted to know if all you did was swap the springs and if so, how did it turn out? any issues with stock shocks or mounts? hows it sit now, hows wheel well gap look? if u can send or upload a pic thatd be awesome. thx 😉
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this wasn’t my car. I will note that the rear bump stops should be trimmed. Other than that everything worked fine - yes we just swapped the springs out. The drop was the same as reported on their website after a week of settling. Hope that helps, no pictures besides what is in the video when it’s all done.
@cuckoo4watches6 жыл бұрын
Josh Walling thanks for the input. so only the rear bump stops need trimmed? and if so, how much or even how to do? did it look much better than the stock lowering on the GT? thx
@ERJones-hm4sz6 жыл бұрын
I have 2016 Passat Rline. I installed the exact same springs and upgraded to 20in rims (mine are 1in wider than the factory 19x8in rim). After the springs settled the factory shocks became way too soft, started to bottom out constantly & my car only has 30k miles! Do you have any recommendations on shock upgrades to fix the problem? Id rather not do struts.
@ElOhGeeAyEn426 жыл бұрын
E. R. Jones did you ever find a fix to your problem? I was looking at getting 20’s but want to avoid tire rub and bottoming out as well
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
You have to trim the bump stops on the stock shocks or upgrade your shocks.
@ElOhGeeAyEn426 жыл бұрын
Josh Walling what shocks did you guys use then? I thought you left the stock ones
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
We did use the stock ones, like I said you can trim the bump stops to prevent from bottoming out. I should note that lowering with just springs isn’t the most ideal solution since stock shocks aren’t really meant to go low. A nice spring and shock combo will provide a much better ride.
@ElOhGeeAyEn426 жыл бұрын
Josh Walling any recommended shocks for the Passat?
@arnoldkevorkov36406 жыл бұрын
Sick
@HALAMADRIDCR76 жыл бұрын
Please advise me , what to do
@renaldosimpson87553 жыл бұрын
You thinkthis the same process for the jetta?
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
For the fronts I know for a fact it is essentially the same process. For the rear the answer is “it depends.” Some Jetta’s do not have independent rear suspension, and in that case, the process will be slightly different, but nothing you can’t handle if this video made sense to you.
@recklessmedia30846 жыл бұрын
Wheel offset?
@tommymazura43955 жыл бұрын
I have this same car but can’t find anything on how to put in coilovers... HELP?? I got BC Racing BR Type coilovers because that’s what was recommended by them but I’m scared of fucking up the install Bc I can’t find a video anywhere
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
The steps for installing coilovers is very much the same as this video, it’s even easier because you don’t have to reuse the old front strut mounts - I believe BC could have camber plates
@zacm47065 жыл бұрын
Would these springs work well with the stock rims?
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Yup
@tinobarnabei19883 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 do the tires rub at all?
@joshwalling46333 жыл бұрын
Not if you do the fender screw mod mentioned in the video.
@caphicks6 жыл бұрын
What are the specs on the lowering springs used?
@joshwalling46336 жыл бұрын
Specs? Not sure what you mean, I think the link is in the description on the parts used
@martindelgadillo86205 жыл бұрын
What size were does springs .?
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
I don’t recall, sorry man
@Darylrb19835 жыл бұрын
hmm. looks good
@TheShootingBrake2 жыл бұрын
I just wish the damn car came that height from factory.
@joshwalling46332 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@TheShootingBrake2 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 do you feel this all applies to a 2020 R-line Passat? I’ve heard it was just a facelift, so I’m wondering if all the steps to lowering it will be the same.
@joshwalling46332 жыл бұрын
I don’t know the answer exactly, but VW doesn’t change the suspension very much even in new models, so the steps should be dang near identical.
@martindelgadillo86204 жыл бұрын
More vids with passat!
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint you man, but this was a friends car haha. Probably won’t have any more on this car.
@mauriciogarcia-pr9qe5 жыл бұрын
Whats the size of the axle?
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
The axle or the axle nut? If you mean the nut I can’t remember.
@mauriciogarcia-pr9qe5 жыл бұрын
Axle nut
@tsharabi45 жыл бұрын
Check out my r line !
@seansmile5 жыл бұрын
Wish those came in manual
@joshwalling46335 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@JustinAndJoshBroDown7 жыл бұрын
Noice
@DJTEDDY5074 жыл бұрын
Nice video, however it is not a DIY job if you have a shop
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
Having a shop only makes showing you the process easier. I have installed many many many coilovers, air ride, and spring kits in my driveway, so yes, it is “DIYable”.
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
Also, if I replaced a battery in a shop, is it also no longer a DIY? I don’t quite understand your point of view. Nothing about this job requires a lift, only a jack and jack stands.
@DJTEDDY5074 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633 it requires more than just jack stands.
@joshwalling46334 жыл бұрын
Idk man, having done it many times on jack stands in my driveway, I disagree with you
@luisalbertovaldezayala3904 жыл бұрын
@@joshwalling4633you are right, I mean, to be disagree ahahaha.
@malcolmisk00l7 жыл бұрын
Thats a whole lotta BS to remove the front suspension
@malcolmisk00l7 жыл бұрын
But that car looks sick, just a shame the R line doesnt even come with projectors and LEDs or even fogs :(
@derrickforeal6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather do aftermarket or custom lights then have every car out there with the same lights. Just my opinion plus vw would have raised msrp by $2000 for led xeons. It's like my God unit they bump the tag almost $3000 when alpine makes a way better and bigger unit with better camera for $1100. I personally like how they are tame which makes it easier to customize and make your own.
@chadbro17996 жыл бұрын
I have LED headlights in my 2018 R Line.
@BucsVarsitygolf46 жыл бұрын
Chad Gustafson same. I have the LED package on my R-Line and love it. The appearance of the car got a lot better front to back with the $1k package
@dedualexandru89876 жыл бұрын
I really like the lines and overall design of the American Passat, the European one looks like a cockroach...
@dedualexandru89876 жыл бұрын
Joshua Walling yeah, that's my opinion, look for one from 2015-2018, and you'll see what I'm talking about, it's a lot different, I actually own a 2014 Passat, that for me looks kinda better, and it's a lot similar to the US one, I think the back is pretty much the only visible difference...