How to Regulate a Watch using Timegrapher (and Improve Watch Accuracy WITHOUT a Timegrapher)

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@PpaStrmpf
@PpaStrmpf 3 жыл бұрын
There are tons of videos on this theme. BUT. You do it in a way that everyone can understand it. I thank you for your work and effort to share your knowledge with us.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! That's our goal: to bring watchmaking to the public. Glad you enjoyed it!
@brodiemaximiliano4825
@brodiemaximiliano4825 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it's pretty off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch new series online?
@AndrewPullens
@AndrewPullens 2 жыл бұрын
I lucked out and found this one first!
@MiguelBricaBrac
@MiguelBricaBrac Жыл бұрын
Now I feel more confident in buying a time grapher. No one had explained how this little gizmo worked as clearly as you did, thank you.
@rogerauclair1670
@rogerauclair1670 2 жыл бұрын
Although I’m fairly new to watches, I have managed to regulate a few on my NH35A movements down to +2 to +3 seconds a day. I initially ruined 2 Invicta watches while I was regulating them so it occurred to me that any future regulating it might be safer to hack the movement while adjusting the regulator and restart the watch afterward which works nicely. As I cannot justify a timegrapher, I use your 2nd method by using the world clock on my iPad. It might be worth noting that after regulating a watch, if after 2 or 3 hours it is running obviously fast or slow, there’s no need to wait the full 24 hours to adjust the regulator again, just do it and reset the time and fine tune it from there. Sometimes when regulating a watch, it may not be advisable to try to get it too accurate, such as +0 seconds per day but try for about +5 seconds per day. From experience I’ve found that if you regulate a watch dial up, it might run to almost perfect time over 24 hours but when you wear the watch, it’s now crown down and as watches run differently in various positions, it might slow down and run at -3 or -4 seconds per day. If the watch is regulated to +5 seconds per day and wearing it crown down causes it to lose 3 or 4 seconds per day, the watch will be running at +1 or +2 seconds per day, which is perfect.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! It's true that it's usually good to err on the positive side a little bit. The non dial up positions can and usually run slower due to the addition of extra friction. With that in mind, a small plus in dial up usually ends up a near zero.
@wesbaldwin4387
@wesbaldwin4387 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish I had ruined only two. Thanks
@Brvqn
@Brvqn Ай бұрын
Just followed your advice and turns out it is true! I can get nearly dead on accurate +- 1s per day thanks to you sir
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout their videos.
@SunilKumar-np8cy
@SunilKumar-np8cy Ай бұрын
Boss your totorial video was very very useful for me and now I can understand timegrapher reading thanks
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub Ай бұрын
Delighted to support you! =)
@roadshowautosports
@roadshowautosports Жыл бұрын
You got a new subscriber for the simple, professional, and concise way you deliver the intended information. I’ll watch your other videos for the lifting angle explanation, if you have one. You gave a list but understanding the principle makes it easier to understand the readings and results. Thank you very much!
@robbleecn
@robbleecn 3 жыл бұрын
So far this is the only video makes me understand what exactly a timegrapher can do. Subscribed.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! And thanks for the sub!
@duvalpenny100
@duvalpenny100 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I assume you had to tell it which movement you're measuring, but that has never been confirmed in any of the videos I've watched prior.
@Bonpu
@Bonpu 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial: precise, concise, knowledgeable, beautifully shot. Subscribed. Thank you!
@GabrielSkolderblad
@GabrielSkolderblad 3 жыл бұрын
The reason you dont get the same Time Deviation in real life as on the time grapher is because: 1. You measure the Rate in only one position of the watch. 2. The rate you measure is the rate when the watch is fully wound and the watch usually will get a faster rate when the watch gets unwound during the day/night. I usually regulate my watches to about a couple of -sec/day when the watch is fully wound which makes the watch go to about a couple of +s/day during the night when the watch is on my desk. Sometimes it takes some days before the watch gets to + in the night and - during the day but that keeps my watches close to 0s/day.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
What you said is absolutely correct. I did not discuss positional adjustment and isochronism in this video because I want this video to be an beginner's introduction to regulation, and those two topics are more than enough an entire separate video. If I included them in this video, it could be half an hour long! On the real life performance, that's where taking a statistical approach - taking the average - is useful. I don't have to account for whether it's + or - in the day or at night. If on average it's close to 0s/day it's good enough for me. But personally I still sometimes prefer an overall + since being early isn't something I need to worry about.
@deepsight3571
@deepsight3571 2 жыл бұрын
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@life-longpatriot8258
@life-longpatriot8258 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub That is all very true. In addition, it's much quicker to re-sync a slightly fast watch to Naval Observatory time than a slow one! I enjoyed your very concise video and hope to see it expanded upon in the future. For instance, I have a timegrapher, and my Seiko Alpinist that I purchased in 2016 was starting to show a weak amplitude and slow rate in the vertical positions (crown up and down) in the 170s-180s,/-30s/day while horizontal dial up and down were 220-230/0s/day. I suspect it needs an overhaul and lubrication since it has never had one since I purchased it, so that is my intent. But there are precious few videos out there that discuss the warning signs that can be seen with a timegrapher when a movement requires maintenance. Again, thank you for your exceptional video. The photography was very clear and close-in.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
@@life-longpatriot8258 Thank you for the compliment. Appreciate it! 6 years, it's probably time for a servicing. Lubrication probably dried up.
@life-longpatriot8258
@life-longpatriot8258 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub I agree, and I'm sending it to Seiko for an overhaul.
@archievthapa3593
@archievthapa3593 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully narrated - just loved it
@27madnoor
@27madnoor 3 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 We would like to know more about the standards of regulating a watch in different conditions and multiple positions
@simonthomas5113
@simonthomas5113 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I just use the manual method you show at the end, with real life usage rather then crown positions etc, and getting totally acceptable results on my two sub £300 automatics. I'm getting +4 and +8 on the pair, so no adjustments needed at the moment, and I just set them a minute slow each month.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you're getting good results out of it!
@13noman1
@13noman1 3 ай бұрын
Ah, I wish I'd seen your video sooner. I'd seen others, all cautioning re: hairspring but they were using larger shifts of the regulator with a toothpick. I was disappointed with what I perceived as inaccuracy (12 s/d too fast) in my Orient Ray II so I got a time grapher, popped off the back and proceeded to overcorrect first one way, then the other and ended up nudging the beat error.too. I finally got it to + 17s/d --near where I started but worse -- and then slipped. The hairspring stopped dead, never to run again. Sigh. It's became something of a Zen lesson; I have some other watches "in spec" but less than I used to want and now I enjoy the variety!
@devonshire56
@devonshire56 9 ай бұрын
You can also use a reliable stopwatch and do this same function several times within say 5 minutes each and average out the + or - of each adjustment you have made. Do this a few times and you will come very close to a good running watch, depending on how accurate your watch needs to run for your lifestyle. If you are say traveling to the moon and back you may need split-second accuracy, if not this method will work satisfactory.
@DavidMikro
@DavidMikro 4 ай бұрын
these videos are amazing and super helpful makes me want to get into watch making as a hobby
@manthosaetopetra6491
@manthosaetopetra6491 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! It was helpful. I regulated a NH35A mechanism but it was not that easy! Very "tiny-tiny" movement/adjustment on the regulator's lever resulted in big deviation 40+/- secs!!. I was initially +23 sec' on small movement turned it to -18 sec/day or worse -40'' then trying the apposite +45''. I tried may times with very tiny adjustments to archive theoretical +3 sec/day (need to verify it now). I used an android app that uses mobile mic to measure tics as a "Timegrapher" with quite good accuracy (real measurement is close to the readings of the app). The app is called "Watch Accuracy Meter" and worded fine for me.
@nunsc
@nunsc Жыл бұрын
put the box my seiko srpd was +23 per day. woth a beat error of 1.4. I now have it down to +0 w I th a beat error of 0.1. over 3 months, I calculated I needed it set to +2 per day for better accuracy. given I wear it everyday. Its spot on now and I have left it as is, hacking seconds when needed. thanks for the pro tips.
@SumSouuthernSugar
@SumSouuthernSugar 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched several like this. Yours is best. Clearest explanation and video quality. Thanks. I'm trying my first regulation on an Orient Ray II. It came from the factory at -11 s/d. I don't have a timegrapher. So far I am not doing very well at all. 🙂
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Without a timegrapher it can be difficult to regulate. Best to be patient and slowly adjust it. Good luck!
@watchfan4
@watchfan4 4 ай бұрын
I love your content as well as your products 👍
@oldschoolebm666
@oldschoolebm666 Жыл бұрын
Great, great video. So concise. I'll be regulating my fortis cosmonaut. Thanks 👍
@vonkruel
@vonkruel 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been a casio/quartz nerd but now I'm considering an NH35-based watch, and it's nice to know I can regulate it myself. I guess NH35's don't receive "full service" very often due to their low cost. Thanks for a helpful video!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
And that low cost makes it perfect for your own tinkering!
@vonkruel
@vonkruel 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub Right. When it eventually dies I'll replace it with a brand new NH35, and then I'll try to bring the "dead/dying" NH35 back to life. Chance of success: poor. Chance of learning: 100%.
@slartyism
@slartyism Жыл бұрын
The NH35 movements are dirt cheap workhorses. You can't go wrong with them. I've just finished my 6th. build, it's a fantastic hobby that gives you a real sense of achievement. Build yourself an automatic, you never go back to quartz. 😊
@johnbeard7404
@johnbeard7404 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@alexs3812
@alexs3812 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video!First of all explained in detail.Thanks!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@27madnoor
@27madnoor 3 жыл бұрын
Great video , i read the blog about regulating a mechanical watch and you mentioned in it how to regualte the beat error if the value is above 0.6 by a pair of tweezers and by changing the distance between the stud carrier and the regualter , so if you would add a tutorial video on that plz )
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you loud and clear! In fact the tutorial video for beat error is already in production, so subscribe and stay tuned))
@DennisFutball2396
@DennisFutball2396 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best NH35 regulating video I've seen. Clear & Concise. thank you
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment!
@dimitriosmoros3978
@dimitriosmoros3978 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and very informative video. Bravo and thanks...!!!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@wlcc7223
@wlcc7223 2 жыл бұрын
現在機械錶振頻可以用手機的Clock Tuner量測,不過誤差還是比標準測錶儀器大(容易受環境影響),而且不能是自帶永久磁鐵的手機,否則測值都還沒量到,手錶先受磁了,所以還是要每日觀察誤差值才能決定要條快或調慢。 偏振嚴重的話也會看到測點是有規則的一高一低,但是調偏振也會影響游絲有效長度,所以偏振應該要先調,之後才是調快慢針。
@michaelkolonis2280
@michaelkolonis2280 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial, I did not have a time grapher so i regulated the watch using the method you showed, I managed after approximately 7 attempts to get an accuracy on my Seiko NH35A movement to within less than a second a day. After 6 days of daily wear it is still within one second. Having adjusted it to real word wearing I am extremely happy. I have ordered a thrid party microphone to use with an open source time Grapher software for my PC. I think based on my experience I'll use the time grapher software to adjust it to say within 1 second a day and then wear it continuously for a week and make any adjustments necessary after observing real world /life style usage. Thanks once again i found this very useful.
@buddyawesome1
@buddyawesome1 3 жыл бұрын
After regulating without timegrapher, do you let the watch rest or continue wearing it as normal in-between further regulations? Would love an answer here :) Love the video and have subscribed!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Straight to the wrist it is! And thanks for the subs!
@the_0ther_0ne_59
@the_0ther_0ne_59 3 жыл бұрын
I have designed a hybrid method for adjusting the beat rate for a watch and I managed to achieve a level of precision of 0.2 sec/day. I am an engineer but not in this particular field of timekeeping. My method combines the timegrapher with a daily evaluation against a reference. First I wanted to identify the variables of this problem, or the things that affects the movement and the beat rate. Here is the short list: - temperature variation (season, occupation or job type). The beat rate is faster in cold than in warm due to the contraction/ dilatation of the hairspring. I prefer evaluating and adjusting a movement during the summer (July or August) - magnetization - this is the worst enemy of your watch, including shocks and aggressive vibrations - the average position of the watch (the beat rate is different from one position to another, especially for cheap movements: dial up or down, crown up or down) - winding level or the activity level of the owner. Every owner has a different lifestyle therefore the beat rate of the same watch will change for different owners. My reasoning: An accurate quick adjustment can never account for all variables so I thought: what if I include these variables in a global long term evaluation? Since I do not belong to this specific branch, I can take criticism easily. Here is the method: 0. In order for the mechanism to run in a stabilized manner, the watch must run for at least one month, preferable two months, before making any evaluation or beat adjustment. It takes a while for the lubricants and for the hair spring to achieve stability. Initially the lubricants are more viscous and the hairspring is less flexible. In time the lubricants become more fluid and the hairspring becomes more elastic, so the beat rate has a decreasing tendency. Any attempt to evaluate or to regulate the movement will be invalidated later, so be patient. You could use a winder, but the regular watch winders are excessively winding the movement even at their lowest setting. Just ware the watch during this time an you can make an informative evaluation that should not be used for the final regulation. 1. First evaluate the magnetization level of the entire watch, including the bracelet (use a compass on top of the watch and slowly rotate the watch on the horizontal plane while watching any deviation of the compass. Do not rush it. I consider maximum 4° deviation as acceptable) 2. Demagnetize the entire watch, including the bracelet. Any magnetization will invalidate the measurements, or will discontinue the evaluation. If magnetization occurs just demagnetize the watch and start over, but validate the records while the watch was not magnetized. 3. Synchronize the watch with a reference that you will use over and over (cellphone, radio station - note that there is an offset between analog and digital radio receivers, usually the analog ones are quicker since they are not processing the radio signal) 4. Log the deviation into an Excel spreadsheet 5. Wear the watch normally 6. Before every daily evaluation check the watch for magnetization so you can validate your measurement. There is no problem if you skip days, but make sure that you check the watch for magnetization. 7. Make the evaluation/ record roughly at the same time during the day. Some movement complications alter the beat rate at certain moments (21:00-24:00 interval for day-date complications decreases the beat rate, then it accelerates). 8. After at least seven days (the longer, the better - even two months if magnetization doesn’t occur) calculate the average daily deviation. Let’s say +15 sec/day. 9. Put the watch on the timegrapher with the movement exposed, ready for adjustment and let the beat rate stabilize. You will notice that the beat rate will increase as the temperature of the watch cools to the room temperature, let’s say from +15 to +21 sec/day (the cheaper the movement, the greater the difference). Make sure that dust won’t make its way into the movement during beat rate stabilization! In order to avoid jerky increment jumps I am using a Precision Spring Dividers Calipers Compass, that has both metallic sharp tips. 10. Once the beat rate has stabilized proceed to adjusting it by applying the desired difference: from +21 adjust to 21-15= 6, but I prefer one +1 sec/ day so I would set it to +7 sec/day. Make sure you make the adjustment in small increments, then let the beat rate stabilize after each applied increment. This is it! I have seen movements so bad that they just wouldn’t stabilize even after 30-60 minutes, or better said - never. In such cases the adjustment is pretty much based on luck. Using this method I have successfully adjusted two ETA 2836-2 movements (one of them with COSC certificate), one Seiko Caliber 7S36, and other few ones.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Love the detailed writeup from an engineer! It's refreshing to see a systematic take on the whole process where you take care of each and every one of the variables. I especially like the use of calipers. I mean it's not what it's built for but it fits the use case here. If you want to further improve your method, I would suggest, besides magnetization, you watch also for external mechanical shock. Since in most movements, the regulator and stud are mobile, external impact (in extreme case, like dropping the watch) can move them, and that would invalidate all the previous data. Maybe your engineering mind can figure out a way to track that or prevent that ;) But all in all, brilliant work!
@the_0ther_0ne_59
@the_0ther_0ne_59 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub The calipers were just a quick, finer but still a coarse solution. A dedicated fixture and much more accurate could be designed, but there are few problems that should be considered: - after every forward stud nudge there is a backward motion of the stud, probably caused by it's flexibility and/ or friction. This is why a complete stud release is important after avery nudge. Relocating the adjustment device in the same place with precision is very difficult, but achievable. - add to this the flexibility of the adjusting device and the problem is amplified. The problem is even more complex than that and I consider that a team of enthusiasts has better chances for a successful design/ method Regarding monitoring the position of the regulator and of the stud I find this even more difficult. Still these are just challenges that the humans are meant to overcome. There are few obstacles that I couldn't pass even if I am only human. I do believe that we can achieve anything if we put our minds to work and a small team of well motivated people can work miracles. Overall, the final result regarding the daily accuracy is by far satisfying. I was surprised to see 0.2-0.5 sec/day deviation for any mechanical watch. I wonder how accurate the tirbillion ones can get while actually wearing them, or how accurate a mechanical watch can get. Thanks for your appreciation!
@the_0ther_0ne_59
@the_0ther_0ne_59 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub I have added #0 to the method that I presented. It is about letting the lubricants and the hairspring stabilize for one or two months before evaluating and regulating.
@Enoch-Gnosis
@Enoch-Gnosis 7 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@sabrex9628
@sabrex9628 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this bro ❤
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 28 күн бұрын
Delighted that you found it enjoyable!
@shinnchoo3724
@shinnchoo3724 5 ай бұрын
Any chance you'll do the beat error correction video soon?
@Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke
@Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke 3 жыл бұрын
COSC might be obsolete. Now the META or MET comes into play. Marketing terms of the industry really. Great tutorial.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
You mean METAS. Yeah it'll be interesting to see whether METAS will catch on and become an industry standard, but right now it simply looks like an attempt by Omega to claim superiority over other brands. On the other hand, COSC is definitely outdated and it sorely needs an update
@ltf-xs4oj
@ltf-xs4oj 3 жыл бұрын
You've been a great help. I'll give it a try today. without a Timegrapher.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, good luck!
@jacc88888
@jacc88888 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great info. I managed to adjust my Orient Star to -1s/d on the second attempt. Would have preferred a plus number but too stressful to try again! Overall I’m fairly pleased with it. I used a cocktail stick with a notch i cut in it. Being a novice I found the wood slipped too much without the notch keeping it attached. EDIT I’ve done all my time measurements using on wrist accuracy as well. ie if it gains 15 seconds on the wrist a day I’ll take off that amount on the timegrapher. Of course you have to work out what position you have it at night as well to keep it as accurate as possible. Quite a lot of maths!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@ChrisCoulston
@ChrisCoulston 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on the video. I really like the explanation at 1:33 of the regulator's effect on the hair spring. Just subscribed and hope that you come out with some more quality content. You could an entire video on each of the parameters shown on the timegrapher and how they relate to the function of the watch. I'd watch.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! I can tell you that I do have a video on the exact subject you mentioned in the pipeline. But I'm slooowly getting to it. So stay tuned!
@Structureel
@Structureel 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to have to try the real life method, since I don't have a time grapher. My Seiko 5 runs about 15-20 seconds fast a day and it nearly turned me off mechanical watches. Then I got a Chinese watch with a Seiko NH35 movement in it, which runs at +1.5 second a day and I realized that there was a way to enjoy mechanical watches at a budget. I never wear the Seiko anymore though, and that sucks.
@allenang9541
@allenang9541 Жыл бұрын
Is phone app telegrapher good enough?
@ovidiuovidiu6889
@ovidiuovidiu6889 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, what happens if an accurate reading of a 2824-2 COSC (Tissot) lift angle was set to 52 degrees?Is the accuracy reading the same? The device also reads correctly the deviation of the mechanism?I went to a watchmaker and (overhaul, so he says) he put the watch on timegrapher but the lift angle setting was 52 degrees...(yes an watchmaker...)!Until now, I didn't know that the angle should be 50 degrees!Please help...
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, the lift angle is used only to calculate the amplitude of the watch, and the difference in measurement of amplitude with a lift angle of 50 vs 52 is not significant (i.e. if there is a problem with amplitude it'll be noticeable whether it is 50 or 52). And most importantly, the accuracy reading (i.e. rate) is not affected. So yeah it's nothing to worry about.
@MC-yh9bw
@MC-yh9bw 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks 👍
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@majedalessa8376
@majedalessa8376 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks for posting, I would like to know how you will be able to tell that the watch needs servicing from the time Grapher
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent question. We'll look at each of the outputs from the timegrapher to see if it's within acceptable range. So, to illustrate the thought process, it goes like this: "is the rate too high or too low?", "is the beat error too high?", "is the amplitude too low?", and most importantly, "are the lines erratic/unstable?". A lot of it depends on the particular movement model, so for example the maximum amplitude for a Sellita SW200 is different from that of a Seiko NH35. But something like a more than +30s/day rate, larger than 1.0ms beat error, or unstable lines are telltale signs of a movement that needs regulation or servicing. Hope that answers your question (and feel free to ask again if you have more questions!)
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a nh 35 watch that loses about 20 seconds a week so 2-3 seconds a day using real life.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty good accuracy for a mechanical movement!
@Buonarotti10
@Buonarotti10 3 жыл бұрын
If your watch is not hackable, how would I set it to the correct time?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Then you just record the time down to seconds. So say it's 9pm on the reference clock and it's 9pm past 12 seconds on your watch. You take that number and note the difference in seconds next day
@DamianceteVideos
@DamianceteVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I just tried to regulate my first watch and I break the hairspring... 😥 It's a nh38, I'll buy a new movement and tried to replace the old one. For me, it was very difficult to make small adjustments while trying to regulate the watch.
@fLaMePr0oF
@fLaMePr0oF 3 жыл бұрын
Or, you could just download a timegrapher app for your phone... =D Thanks, very helpful video particularly since my watch has an NH35A calibre
@vipconstrictors1798
@vipconstrictors1798 3 жыл бұрын
This video craps on everything else! Thank you!
@paulschrag5747
@paulschrag5747 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done indeed! Clear explanations, just enough detail to be interesting and educational without going over or under the target audience. I’ll be watching your other videos. I’m going to take a crack at regulating one of my NH35A’s.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment! And good luck with your regulation!
@treehugger3615
@treehugger3615 5 күн бұрын
I had a screw lodged in the hairspring. When I took it out, the rate was all wonky so I attempted to regulate it. But when I moved the regulator close to the stud, the rate did not slow down. Sometimes it did, but if I moved it further it would actually go up. Does it mean my hairspring is kaput?
@myZisfantastic
@myZisfantastic Ай бұрын
That’s fine but should’nt you do the checks with more positions on the timegrapher ? When we wear a Watch on a daily basis it is seldom upside down like on your vid!
@ats-3693
@ats-3693 Ай бұрын
I have a Breitling Superocean II 44mm and an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 43.5mm, I have a timegrapher and can see that both of these watches need a regulator tune, but there is no way I would open either watch and attempt to adjust the regulators, I'll leave that to a watchmaker, I can forsee a possible disaster if I tried it myself.
@gunnerman1880
@gunnerman1880 2 ай бұрын
Hi don't know if your aware but you can get a time grapher on your phone. I'm not sure how to use it but there is one so maybe you could get the app and show us how to use it and if its any good pleeeaaasse 😊
@bmw128racer
@bmw128racer Жыл бұрын
You regulated the watch in only one position. You really need to check the accuracy of the watch in several other positions to verify the consistency of the regulation adjustment. Also, there are several timegrapher-like apps for mobile phones that you can you instead of buying an expensive timegrapher.
@danielduenas924
@danielduenas924 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Loved the video, watched some others and this one made me subscribe. Such good content! I have a small question: Will a time grapher app on my phone do the trick? Would love to know this so that I can do it myself! Thanks a lot
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
It does work (in principle) but the phone microphone picks up a lot of noise so you might have less stable /reliable reading
@rathugt4178
@rathugt4178 Жыл бұрын
I had my Seiko 5 Caliber 6309 serviced very recently. When I got it back after service, I tested its accuracy on the Watch Accuracy Meter app. It showed a rate of -5s/d. I was quite a bit worried whether I had to get it re-checked but it kept time pretty much accurately despite being a 43 yr old machine. This video made me realize that the accuracy shown in the timegrapher indeed is a bit deviated from the accuracy during day-to-day activities.
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I haven't tried regulating a watch yet and appreciated the full and clear explaination. As a Third option, have you tried any of the free Watch Accuracy apps (such as Toolwatch). If so, how do you rate their performance/accurcay vs a Timegrapher?
@-eMpTy-
@-eMpTy- 9 ай бұрын
Worse, obviously, but still just fine for DIY regulation. Could get my ETA 2893-2 down from -11s to -3s that way.
@breaktime3269
@breaktime3269 3 жыл бұрын
Really good, useful and well explained video. many thanks
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment!
@artbanks27
@artbanks27 2 жыл бұрын
Is adjusting in just 1 position is enough?
@akedir2967
@akedir2967 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of assembling and disassembling the movements?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@goCanucks
@goCanucks 2 жыл бұрын
I found this tutorial really easy to follow and comprehend. Other tutorials I have watched, they make them so complicated. Thanks for sharing.
@nikhilsgaikwad
@nikhilsgaikwad 5 ай бұрын
can we use mobile timegrapher. is it also that accurate?
@heklik
@heklik Жыл бұрын
my Seiko 6309 have a 4.0 beat error with +12sec / per day using watch accuracy app.
@AlexeyMatushevsky
@AlexeyMatushevsky Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion about the Accuracy Meter apps that could be used on the Smart Phones?
@michaelperry9261
@michaelperry9261 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen blued screws in an NH35. Where did the blued screws come from? Did you blue them yourself or just get them from a different movement?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch! We blued the screws ourselves, and we're preparing a screw bluing tutorial very soon. Subscribe and stay tuned!
@jacc88888
@jacc88888 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub This is an awesome channel. Glad I came across it.
@michaelperry9261
@michaelperry9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub Nice! That's what I was hoping to hear. I look forward to the video.
@mrzzme6998
@mrzzme6998 Жыл бұрын
what if the lever is already in the minimum speed setting, but my watch still too fast around 2 second per minute?
@NOVAISPERES
@NOVAISPERES Жыл бұрын
I will try to adjust my Seiko SPB077J1 using the method without timegrapher. I probably have a deviation around 15 or more seconds a day, cause i have to adjust the time every 2 days :/
@secretariat-13
@secretariat-13 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thank you, I think I can do that, timegraphers are a tad pricey for those who are not watchmakers.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the size of your watch collection, your need for accuracy, and how much you like to tinker with watches. For many people, it's a great investment that enables you to do much more with your watches
@secretariat-13
@secretariat-13 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWatchClub I totally agree, after posting my comment I invested in a timegrapher and already paying itself off, thanks
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
@@secretariat-13 Have fun with it!
@gabrielcornea9119
@gabrielcornea9119 2 жыл бұрын
you can just use an app for the smartphone instead
@sirasbrow
@sirasbrow 11 ай бұрын
I have a Rodo Diastar it's running fast, after this video i opened my watch but inside the rado is totally different i can't adjust the time please help me sir there are + - symbols available but cant adjust!
@ronaldmoravec2692
@ronaldmoravec2692 6 ай бұрын
Back in the 1950`s, my parents had a friend who was a watchmaker. We would frequently see him wearing multiple watches that were being timed. No electronics, no batteries, no angle measurements.
@daynevickers1079
@daynevickers1079 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! You explained things so concisely that I now want to keep my watches more closely regulated. Thanks for sharing this with me, you've earned a subscriber.
@Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke
@Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke 3 жыл бұрын
One more comment. i notice the nh35 or 36 tends to lost the accuracy after adjustment, while the amplitude and beat error remain within health range. So i have to massage the regulator repeatedly.
@michaelcox8490
@michaelcox8490 Жыл бұрын
I have a watch with an NH35 movement. I improved the accuracy to -1 sec per day (method number two). I was thriller until it fell from counter height on a ceramic tile floor. Now the accuracy can be +80 seconds per day and then the next day - 60 seconds per day without making any adjustments what so ever! I tried regulating it again and check the accuracy per hour. This test showed the the watch was running approx. -2 seconded per hour for the first 6 hours for a total of -12 seconds for the first six hours. However, by hour 7 the watch was now +5 seconds. this means hour 7 was +17 while all the previous hours were -2 seconds. I assume the movement is damaged and attempting to regulate it is futile. At $50 to purchase a new NH35 movement seems like my best option. Do you agree?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub Жыл бұрын
That happens to the best of us. In your case, yes, purchasing a new movement is the best choice.
@TheGreatTimSheridan
@TheGreatTimSheridan 3 жыл бұрын
wyes pleasant video.. but the adjustment should be calibrated so you can ,easure exactly how far you change the setting. then onlymteo measurements are needed. this is important on clocks because they vary through the day.... for example.. Day 1. Fast 1, adjust S 3, set/ Day 2 Fast 1/4, adjust S 1, set/ (of course here one setting point equals 1/4 sec/day Day 3 should be right on.
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
interesting to know about the usual practice with clocks!
@tomhill4003
@tomhill4003 Ай бұрын
The elephant in the room for these watch regulation videos is that none of them tell you to demagnetize the watch before regulation. This should always be the first step. Otherwise, you're adjusting against the magnetism in the spring.
@daproximus7833
@daproximus7833 3 жыл бұрын
awesome vid. nice and simple explanation. subbt
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@roadshowautosports
@roadshowautosports Жыл бұрын
I demand your physical address and I don’t want a peep when I’m picking up that bench of yours!!!!😂😂😂 where did you buy that bench? Looks awesome and the arm rests look great! Thank you for sharing this info!
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, thank you. I have a Seiko with an 8L35 movement, they are not regulated from the factory. Mine is running about +1 min per week, I can live with this but wonder how much better it could be if I took it to be professionally regulated?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
+1 min per week rounds up to around +8 sec per day. For mechanical movements, this is pretty good accuracy.
@HarryUnchained
@HarryUnchained 3 ай бұрын
I would also suggest to use app like timegrapher x and earphone mic if using without a timegrapher. Not as accurate as physical timegrapher but I managed to get mine to +1s/day easily with those rather than adjusting it blindly.
@sean550
@sean550 Жыл бұрын
Hi my watch has been demagnatised twice and its still magnetised...do I need to change hair spring..I have regulated it while magnetised..but gone to max ..its eta 2834 screw type regulation. Thanks sean
@andrewhogg1427
@andrewhogg1427 3 жыл бұрын
That was great! Thank you for this video, really helpful!
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vassilarasv
@vassilarasv 7 ай бұрын
Do you repair watches? In USA?
@Bigboyhass
@Bigboyhass 3 ай бұрын
hello, i regulate my watch to +4sec and 0.3 beat error while the diale down but when i put my watch on the table dial up then the regulation witll will change to +160sec and beat error to 1.7 ! can some body help please?
@alihaydarerdogan8257
@alihaydarerdogan8257 Жыл бұрын
Hi I bought Invicta pro diver last week. It is running 12 seconds slow every day. Is it normal compare to another mechanical movements?
@13642690
@13642690 Жыл бұрын
Hi for 41 hours saving energy about Seiko prospec series , how much we should move our watch so that after 41 h the wach remain accurate event we we didn't used them? Thank a lot to answering
@steverabbits
@steverabbits 6 ай бұрын
I'd like ro regulate my Breitling but I'm a bit scared to take the back off tbh. It's running about 7 seconds a day slow.
@MontresMaroc
@MontresMaroc 11 ай бұрын
Dont forget that automatic watch must be régulated in fonction of the 6 positions 😊
@denizhankaraca8862
@denizhankaraca8862 6 ай бұрын
Nowadays you can also use an app on your mobile phone to measure the accuracy of your watch, which uses the microphone of your phone to calculate the frequency of the "tik tok" sound coming from your watch.
@breener96
@breener96 Жыл бұрын
Do you need to remove the case back when using the timegrapher?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub Жыл бұрын
No, unless you need to regulate the watch. Just testing it on the timegrapher requires no case back removal
@tennistron588
@tennistron588 8 ай бұрын
You adjusted the rate with the watch dial facing down. Is this the ideal position to regulate the watch?, as most of the time you have dial facing up or 12 position slightly down when on wrist.
@gabrielcornea9119
@gabrielcornea9119 2 жыл бұрын
there are also apps for the smartphone with the timegrapher function
@juniorkraeutler5852
@juniorkraeutler5852 3 жыл бұрын
man i have to thank you so so much for this great video!! keep on your good work
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
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@hendrikmau2231
@hendrikmau2231 6 ай бұрын
My Eta 2824-2 run very fast a day more than 1 hour/day already demagnetize but still the same.
@omerunal8192
@omerunal8192 3 жыл бұрын
Lütfen videoların devamı gelsin ve sapmayı nadıl düzenlemeliyiz hangi cihazları kullanmalıyız türkçe altyazı koyarsanız sevinirim
@ramzy7681
@ramzy7681 Жыл бұрын
Does regulating affect anything else? Like power reserve? Can activities like diving and so on move the regulator?
@max79444
@max79444 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the video so user friendly and understandable !
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to take the case back off my watch to look at the movement. There is nothing wrong with doing this is there? If it is okay what precautions should I take?
@jennyomalley7634
@jennyomalley7634 Ай бұрын
By removing the back too regulate watch are you not breaking the seal for water-resistance ??
@thebohemianmasta
@thebohemianmasta 3 жыл бұрын
How do I slow it down after I turned the regulator down all the way?
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
You mean to slow it down further after turning the regulator all the way to the minus side? That would be an abnormally fast watch. This could be a sign of magnetism. I'd suggest demagnetization before attempting further regulation. (Here is a detailed guide on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enPblnyIo72sjrM)
@stoundingresults
@stoundingresults 3 жыл бұрын
Journal method and website time.is seems to be the way to do it. 👍⌚
@DIYWatchClub
@DIYWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
It is! Try it out if you don't have a timegrapher
@piterlorimer946
@piterlorimer946 8 ай бұрын
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