DizzyEight and Jamar Rose Beefing?? NERD CONTROL & Tantrum REACTION

My reaction to the clash of egos that is jamar rose and dizzyeight's beef. I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion, but for those that have been asking, here is my reaction to nerd control and tantrum (dizzy's response).
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Originals:
NERD CONTROL - • Jamar Rose - NERD CONT...
Tantrum - • DizzyEight - "Tantrum...
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[@cooperblackburn4267]

“Im struggling so hard to give a shit” 😂😂😂 bro I need that on a mug and a jacket

[@thefish3103]

I'd buy that in a heartbeat lmaoo

[@ace11th69]

the front should say "im struggling so hard" and one the back "TO GIVE A SHIT"

[@colebryan6134]

Yo, new Shwabadi merch?

[@fork6057]

New merch make it happen

[@ketronwells7032]

Make it merch please

[@Darkstarz893]

Dang shwab just came with the straight facts at the end " grow up, make good music"

[@pkmsd8291]

[Spicy rapper monologue] got me all kinds of weak😭😭

[@fork6057]

Dizzy's hilarious i couldnt believe when I saw it the first time😂

[@animex-media]

what's crazy is that Diz did not swear stayed in with is his morals.

[@MrSmexy702]

I feel like Scru is feeding the drama like usual which makes his fans run to every artist named to try and stir em.

[@300IQPrower]

Yeah cause scru is a parasite who wants to come in and tell other people how to do their jobs so he can better monetize other people’s work.

[@ChivalrousSnake]

That's always been what Scru did. He burnt damn near every bridge on the KZbin rap scene and jumped into anime rap with the same destructive ass energy that's left that scene burnt out because everyone kept beefing for views and for real. But hey. "THIS IS HIP HOP!" he shouts, trying not to look at the burned out scene he skipped out on.

[@araara6412]

If scru was in my hero academia his quirk would be enhanced instigating 😂

[@calebokoro.]

@@ChivalrousSnake More entertaining vids for me so keep going

[@vyrawllxo300]

@@calebokoro. but it ends up killing the scene in the long run, cuz no one is releasing for the fun of it or the enjoyment anymore, it’s all to make a point that “I’m better than you and you ain’t shit compared to me”

[@SephoneNorth]

Jamar’s rap is the music version of “this could’ve been an email.”

[@jeankana1680]

Dizzy could've stopped after the first couple lines, and he'd still have had a better song than Jamar. Just no fucking comparison.

[@Khoyzzz]

We don't need more meat riders dawg

[@rice_ri5839]

@@Khoyzzz He isnt wrong tho. Dizzy couldve ended it after the spicy talk and still wouldve had a better track than rose.

[@Khoyzzz]

@@rice_ri5839 he is wrong. Dizzys song is wayyyyy better than jamars, but Jamar still had decent flows, bars, and overall sounded good.

[@SirGrimly]

"I am struggling so hard to give a shit." Is a perfect summary to how I look at beef between content creators of all kinds lol

[@Youngsickbacchus]

Just imagine all the people who haven’t seen this channel or a stream, they only know you from your songs and it goes from the rock inspired screaming to the most logical person in the community 😭

[@rai_raiceball]

They dont know this was live on YT👀

[@oedsvlogt]

🧿👄🧿

[@ishak_ace]

We been there👀

[@kyng_spade]

Same

[@BenjiSGray]

I mean the vid still up shishishi

[@ankitsarkhel1750]

We know, we've been there before.

[@crypticwriter7001]

I'm glad you touched on it your low key right the youtube rap beefed themselves into oblivion. They still put up music and all but the traction isn't the same because all the fans wanted was drama

[@lilbeast_nerdcore]

If this was a competition, Dizzy killed it easily. Dizzy paved the way for Jamar. Anyway it kinda sucks because I love hearing those two together

[@durant3248]

Make sure to catch the Mix Williams response, Off Day.

[@lilbeast_nerdcore]

@@durant3248 Ow shi, imma check it out now. Mix do be saucy

[@fork6057]

Jamar was cool for a minute, but the best thing about him was the energy he brought on the track, and frankly there are a lot of other rappers who do it better. Sucks to see them separate when I learned about Jamar because of Dizzy.

[@lilbeast_nerdcore]

@@fork6057 exactly man

[@MasterDarius24]

Ty mocked his callout Twitter and it was funny asf

[@somebody.oncetoldme.3516]

Man Shwab a real one, loved the whole. “Shoutout to those bandwagoning this crap because this hiphop, this what we want.” I thought that attitude was lame. I’d rather have good music over goofball drama any day. And a lot of the tracks I’ve heard from this I got bored and turned off lol.

[@elbruces]

He should have said "stomach grumbling and my capital is Budapest."

[@CastIronFist]

Damn shwab out here slapping down beef in the community like saitama on a mosquito.

[@shadowlightning6590]

Joke doesn't make sense since saitama couldn't slap the mosquito. If it was the mosquito girl then it would make sense.

[@bigtaliberto3092]

I believe "most" people just thrive on drama, and stir the pot. I genuinely appreciate your response to all of "this". LOL

[@kamfuku]

15:10 Shwabadi schools toxic fans of the community. Well done 💯

[@Duality.12]

Muscle mass murder: “why is nerdcore drama always the silliest of shit” Couldn’t have said it any better

[@kngnorth4686]

It is really funny though that you can get a Dizzy diss before he got him that verse.

[@NousagiCaptain]

lmfaoooo deadass, mans doesnt have time to give verses, but he always got time to address some disrespect lmao.

[@bennyhana2ben556]

Im honestly so happy you had such a clear head on this

[@iamchriscraig]

Shwabadi Fantano 💙🔥

[@ftg3183]

Actually tho he looking like fantano

[@musicalsmith18]

Never expected this in the Nerdcore community but I still love the music y'all put out

[@Tahu33446]

Yeah that's why I respect DPS. He will put out a track about how he feels and not name names. And then things get handled behind the scenes. Gamers and other content creators could learn alot

[@damianbelloc3709]

Jamar tried to make a reference to Control with the line about loving the competition but still smoking them.

[@TonsOfPax]

As someone that follows Nerdcore but not rly hip-hop, it seems so WEIRD to me that people want beef. Screw that, I want hot bars, not reasons to think someone needs to go to a community center conflict resolution class 3-4:30 every Sunday

[@greekgo7653]

I'm not gonna lie, after this video I'm a bit scared of shwab 😂

[@coryw8541]

I truly enjoyed this breakdown you focused on so many facts that no one else did

[@garenvallejo6151]

Your opinion on this whole thing a huge W I love your reactions and this is no exception.

[@gxlxzylul6914]

This is why I love shwab he keeps everything so real like why should he respond to something that wasn't really a diss like that's just dumb also lowkey shwab was flaming Jamars track the whole vid lmao

[@alseenei8072]

One of the few people who think disses can be a healthy outlet while keeping the game competitive. Sometimes conflict can't be solved behind the scenes, and ego needs to butt heads so someone can deflate. Besides, drama is fun! If Dizzzy is acting ignorant this is the platform to demand more respect. I want it in small verses, but after Dizzy's response I don't think Jamar Rose needs to write anything more. Nerdcore is a bit tighter than hip hop and it works best that way.

[@JustCallMeFreya]

da-wolf in the chat was getting upset now i feel bad for her :/

[@lavellelee5734]

Why what happened with her?

[@JustCallMeFreya]

@@lavellelee5734 cause she wasn’t called out by Jamar but she still made a response and shwabadi was talking about how if you made a verse responding to it it was ,for a lack of a better word, a bad thing and highly unnecessary

[@coomlaoaskeen2397]

Straight facts in this video. I heard Dizzy's response before I even heard Jamar's track and it was pointless to even listen to it, let alone all the responses. One or two weren't bad, but it's nothing even resembling a high point out of this community. I'll probably listen to Tantrum in the future and remember it fondly as an amusing verbal ass whooping

[@DonniedrakoE]

I personally think Mir and mix had responses that could be good to listen on their own

[@jstpxl]

feels good to finally know what the "drama" is about. but let's keep it a stack. it's all a community right so why can't they all just like love eachother and shit. Also buddy ain't dissing dps tho 😭

[@kinglace3782]

DPS would smoke everyone in the community man's different bruh. But this is stupid

[@calebbrown1068]

“Hopefully Jamar just fuckin learns from this not to make a shitty diss track because he didn’t get a verse back” LMAO respect for saying it like it is

[@jaydencosplay12]

I just can’t believe this actually happen it’s like after I heard Jamar’s video and been seeing responses to the video like so many

[@FlareToga76]

"Guys, I'm not aiming to be the best. I'm just aiming to tie. I only want to be at the exact same place as you in terms of musical ability."

[@ronin6230]

This is the best take on this situation

[@Standard-Gamer]

I will say that I never noticed this at first, but at 6:35 I think he actually got the bar right. I think the on-screen lyrics were messed up, because the lyrics say "capital of Budapest" but from Jamar I only hear "I'm the capital Budapest." Correct me if I'm wrong, but either way Shwab's rant goes hard lmao

[@khaiodie2273]

just noticed that too and was looking for a comment about it. XD

[@slaughterbottle69]

I really like watching people like Scru for their reactions, and I always love a good diss track. However, I think the amount of encouragement of diss tracks and talking about how to be a "real" rapper or how you dip into "real" hip hop within this community has become overbearing. What now? Half the community stops working with Jamar/ Dizzy and they start rallying communities against one another? It'll tear nerdcore apart. Solid tracks, but I'm not happy about it; a diss track is always fun until it happens in our community.

[@fork6057]

Don't think Jamar and Dizzy "beefing" is gonna tear nerdcore apart. Sl!ck dissed other rappers and the community got through it just fine. Obviously it creates tension but...all of this could've been avoided.

[@slaughterbottle69]

@@fork6057 I agree and disagree, but I think mostly you're right. No, Jamar and Dizzy beefing isn't really spelling the end of Nerdcore, and I 100% agree that it could have been resolved way differently and much more effectively. However, I think whether or not this is bad for Nerdcore depends on the mentality of the community. Being the optimist I am, I believe the rappers in this community are good people to put faith in, so I think they would have no problem uplifting one another and not carrying an envious type of energy. At the same time, to put the example to a smaller scale, if you got a group of friends and one of them gets into an argument with another one in the group, everyone is, subconsciously, forced to pick sides. Their beef won't tear apart the community, but the aftermath it leaves for their supporters just might.

[@bopqw1055]

if the nerdcore community is weak enough one person having beef would tear it apart, itll crumble eventually anyways. a freind group that splits over one argument isnt a strong friend group to begin with thats the group of people who just got together to hang out.

[@slaughterbottle69]

@@bopqw1055 I just wanna start by saying I don't got any Ill will toward anyone for this opinion, I kinda agree. At the same time though, I think the "it is what it is" attitude is not a good one to carry. When you notice that your friend in the friend group has some type of beef with another friend, the correct play (in my opinion, of course) is to help the two squash it, because letting it bubble over and ruin the group is mad lazy. If you're having arguments with your significant other and you ask your friend his thoughts on the matter and the dude goes "okay, go say (insert heavy hitting argument) and see what she thinks THEN. Tell me how it goes," then that friend is tweakin'. I understand that drama is something we all think about seeing once or twice, it can be fun. But encouraging it is not the move. When I watched Scru's reaction to Mir's response (I still love Scru, don't get it wrong), he made it clear that he still respects both Jamar and Dizzy, for calling people out and for responding, respectively. I understand the mindset of hip-hop heads, and I like watching Eminem diss someone as much as the next guy. The difference is, Nerdcore is a small town compared to the whole of hip-hop, and small towns stick together. When Eminem dissed MGK no one batted an eye, but when he dissed Snoop everyone got uneasy; the reason for that is that everyone that listens to hip-hop has, as Shwab put it, stakes in both of them. People that listen to Nerdcore, as well as people that perform within the nerdcore community, have stakes in Dizzy and Jamar both, if not from direct listening then from secondhand contact. Sorry for the book, but I just don't want Nerdcore to go down the way the YT rap community did, and this is what started it.

[@bopqw1055]

@@slaughterbottle69 understood but this is the equivalent of the bubble over already happening. its not like jamar and dizzy had a private argument and nothing happened. jamar purposefully didn't talk to him in private about how he felt and put him on blast for his entire community to see. and fan view while important only goes so far with a person if a fight breaks out its because the friends either need to fight which happens or arnt really friends to begin with. its natural to take sides and if it breaks itll just be people not jumping on others songs anymore. beef happens and will happen and if bridges burn thats the choice of the human behind the music. itll be worse for their mental if they stay in bad situations with people they hate in order to keep appearances up for fans.

[@samgerrett9899]

Thing is there was a time where peeps like Breeton and Ham and Ty and Mcgwire weren't big names but someone gave em a chance and they killed it so they got featured more and more. Maybe Jamar ain't shot off like that is cuz he ain't fucking good enough

[@ZeroTwoHatake_]

In the end it comes down to the fact that they should have settled their beef on their own and Jamar not try to call out others just to make himself seem better on a pretty bad track. Like the man said: grow up and make good music

[@masonlewis1396]

Don’t know what’s been going on in the community lately so this beef is wild. Also love the cut you got shwab! Looking fresh!

[@elliotKanjovu]

I'm Glad to see you finally got to this

[@kingjoker3793]

...now realize he said "this a lyrical uzi" but had a glock

[@dubstepbruh6449]

I think there is case of the subtitles changing the meaning of a verse. I don't think he said "of" Budapest, I think it was more "I'm the capital, Budapest". doesn't make the line hit any harder but makes it make sense.

[@ThePrinceofDestruction]

I didn’t even know this track existed😂 I wouldn’t have ever listened to it if Shwab didn’t comment on it. On a separate note, Jamar needs to learn the difference between having an ego and being arrogant. One allows for healthy competition and the other turns you into a pariah.

[@tyrantq.p.n2004]

😂😂😂😂struggling so hard to give a shit now thas a heavy bar you feel me bwaouy 😂😂

[@yourdadlewis]

why was every artist in the chat 😭

[@VanyaDemon]

Regardless the possible beef they might have, Jamar's verse is trash and I still believe Dizzy's music is fire, just saying. And the argument "I work harder than others"... so what. More and harder don't mean better, there is talent. :D

[@entropicvoxels]

you've GOT to listen to the original control by big sean (featuring kendrick and jay electronica), it's a classic

[@TheVarrio]

Bruh the thumbnail marketing is ON POINT

[@DocSalvatar]

Im so glad he broke down that Hungary bar, I was confused about that when he said that.

[@seanbrewer715]

This is my favorite take on this situation by far. Thank you wise shwab

[@durant3248]

lol why are we pulling files during reaction? I thought we just analyzing the music. I am dying at 8:24 😂😂

[@KeyofFaTe13]

Man straight up said "love you great musicians gonna try to overcome you all" and people somehow think that shit drama toward you, rustage and others like aye good on you that's the mindset to have show respect for the ones above you but try to get better than them

[@bigdawgda9874]

The struggling so hard to give a shiit is wicked 😂 got me weak 😂😂😂

[@sandral4864]

4:39 RUSTAGE BE DOING THAT SHIII

[@amirrahimi7496]

Best take on the situation.

[@MarioP495]

I'm struggling so hard to give a shit really resonated with me right out the gate

[@lsynx]

Ain't no way man oh and I like the haircut new you

[@adl1719]

Jamar: Budapesh is my CITY

[@thymerhemann3230]

Nigga just flamed on Jamar for saying Hungary was the Capitol of Budapest😂

[@sonicducktheinoccent]

Nerdcore Twitter can be a freaking cesspool

[@mr.pumpkin8161]

All i gotta say on this jamar stuff "What."

[@UncleSheo69]

NO, NOT THE HAIR. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@pkmsd8291]

Given that this is a reference to KDot's Control verse... You'd be more disappointed if you heard the original

[@KINGPRXJ3CT]

Dizzy cooked this nigga BAD

[@Awkward_platypus]

Somebody clip shwabs saying "this is the bare minimum" 😂

[@yiacope5503]

Jamar is like Marley who announces to the whole world that they will destroy eldian empire and just like Willy tybur the second he declares war here comes dizzy Yeager that came back with an immediate response.

[@cupkayke6719]

You're so frank 😂 I love it. After listening to the actual track I'm also confused as to why this caused to much noise

[@godzillaenthusiast9687]

so he got his feeling hurt and then made this crap? Why?

[@yourboymalikcoleman8731]

He made the worst mistake ever😂😂😂😂

[@AuraXpert]

truest shit I've heard all day right here

[@lucasbarber4518]

I've been waiting for this!!!!! love the hair btw its looking great

[@Troll_vs.]

I have ptsd to how six seconds kills people on the track so when I saw dizzy response I worried

[@tj1877]

2:48 Gameboy said the something

[@RoGraves2012]

I really want to see you react to control by Kendrick now

[@Kaiser8513]

Honestly, watched the full video through to support your channel and I agree that in a musical sense Dizzy had a more interesting take if I would have clicked a notification for either of these I would have quit the video less than 30 seconds in.

[@peytonvaldez2892]

Hey at 6:35 does he actually say "capital of Budapest", because it sounds like he said "I am the capital, Budapest " maybe it is just tell me if anyone else hears it too

[@michellespencer9780]

Swab your teacher mentality is definitely showing.

[@justyce_yt]

What I got from this video: Jamar is a joke, lmao

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

I'm so glad that someone has called out the Budapest bar. That shit was wack as hell.

[@DarksideGmss0513]

Heres the thing he acknowledged all of the greats but doesn't he realize that Dizzy is up there with y'all aswell

[@alverdonaie9289]

shabadi be making me laugh on jamer song or should I say freestyle 😂😂

[@pasl2784]

I see this both ways. I know Scru is really pushing drama on this for the beef and the diss tracks and I think that can keep the genre of anime rap interesting, but I also see your perspective of how this is kind of stupid. However, I think part of what Jamar is trying to do is also push the community ahead as some people feel that the anime rap community is stagnating, although I'm not sure I agree. I mean Fabvl has been dropping absolute fire song after song and developing more of a produced, rock sound. DPS and Dizzy have both been pumping out heat for a while. And Rustage has been doing his Rustage things lol. So overall, while I think this is being slightly overblown, I think a healthy amount of dissing in the community is good.

[@NousagiCaptain]

Ok so I wasnt alone in feeling that stagnation. I have been on a months long break from anime rap, its like they reached a peak where almost ever song is fire, but also its music overload, and they are running out of characters, and now the songs kinda sound the same with different skin. DPS, and Dizzy are like the only ones i can still listen to because you can remove the anime from their music and the songs are still good. I honestly don't know where anime rap can go from here.

[@Youngsickbacchus]

Ngl the best of youtube rap was always the diss tracks. Even when KSI was absolutely TERRIBLE, just garbage getting carried by JME and Wocka Flocka he could still drop a decent diss. In fact without Disstractions he likely would have never gotten better at all. And Dizzy’s response was better than a lot of verses he’s put out, competition is just good for growth.

[@danieljohnson9917]

Jamar's argument doesn't make sense to me. Is it hard to work with someone who doesn't communicate well? Sure. But without Shwab's commentary I would not have understood that from his track at all. It sounds like he's saying he's a better rapper than Dizzy, but he's mad that Dizzy didn't work with him, as if that hurt his career? There's no logic in that. If you claim you're the gold in the competition, you should be able to prove that without the support of the people you see as silver and bronze.

[@livingphantom]

Any beef in the nerdcore community is just goofy, just makes me think less of you as a person. In a place that’s so positive and uplifting having these kinds of “rap” just feels so out of place.

[@AVRGWIBWTHACN]

And people like scru who want the space to be a traditional hip hop space seem just as goofy to me

[@livingphantom]

@@AVRGWIBWTHACN Well he's a KZbin rapper, it's all he knows. Can't really hold him to that too much lol

[@knight7686]

The berdcore sphere isn't perfect mate

[@Bumpkin-YT]

Do you want them to be stuck on just anime shit when they can make way better songs with or without anime, personally I wanna hear these mf’s on the radio

[@livingphantom]

@@Bumpkin-YT Okay? How the fuck does that have anything to do with what I said?

[@NoteGames380]

Nerd control was like that vegan teacher in song form. It made sense and there were a few good points, but nobody liked it, and he blew the problem way out of proportion trying to make himself look like some kind of hero.

[@StrawHatAura]

Despite my bias, I can't help but side with Dizzy. It is partially his fault, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with just being busy

[@Kurumiedits]

I wanna see rustage and Connor reaction

[@jamtop1105]

*Rustage

[@elementalist1174]

This was interesting I loved seeing your reaction man

[@thatpersonsmith6274]

My youtube feed had also blown up from this. It seemed like another "DPS/Sl!ck" incident but this...this is just sad

[@bearshark]

Did not even clock the budapest thing because i was so confused by what he meant.

[@TakedaDoujin]

Crazy how that rapping vtuber made a similar track and her shit hit like a billion times harder lmao

[@Sekooma]

Would be great if something big went down in the community, drama or competition or whatever, but I can't disagree with ya here. That shit was hella light if the aim was to rile up people.

[@KK-dm4xt]

To add to this, in my head it just doesn't seem like Jamar's "style", or at least, what I heard of him (which isn't much, tbh), meshes well with the majority of "big names". maybe cam steady or ham sandwich could work, but the only one I see that fits his style is Dizzy. He has this MASSIVE hole he can fill, but then he fucks it up by stirring drama, which doesn't really garner a long-term audience.

[@stefanneagu2627]

Bro I kinda wanna see Shwab angry and spitting about somebody

[@enderknight9279]

Yo that shirt fire, breeton got NICE shit.

[@rashadpatton5039]

0:20😂

[@mox_mox_moxed]

wow man. This community is getting kinda controversial cuz' of some stupid "fans" and their "opinions." Like wtf man. I'll be honest here/ I don't listen to Jamar Rose, so I DON'T know how good of an artist he is. So I won't be judging him hard. But bro. Like idk what happened between Dizzy and Jamar in the past but if this is really just about a verse that he didn't get back then MAN! Jamar is being super immature here. I mean Dizzy and Jamar have known each other for like ages right? Dizzy put Jamar up on stage. So Jamar should totally understand Dizzy's communication flaws. Like no-one's perfect right? (maybe except Avicii). But these responses are totally unnecessary (except Dizzy's cuz' he had every right.) But Shwab, I'm really proud of how you handled this. Like, the fact that you don't care and totally understand that you, being one of the nerdcore greats, will always have competition cuz' there's many who reach for the top. And I swear, Jamar's track is not very good. Frankly, it's bad. I'm sorry but I make better music than Nerd Control. Like I'm sorry but it's true. Jamar's so called diss to the nerdcore community was so unnecessary, but I really will forget about this in a week. Thanks for the reaction again Shwab. Love you and your music and your fam.

[@ceazer6857]

well spoken