⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ R17/R21/R22 Continuous Welded Rail cars and R32s leaving NYC to be Scrapped

[@ice319]

As a Train Service Supervisor, thank you for your contributions, and thank you for the warning at the bottom of the video about staying out of non public areas. I can't tell you how many people have been hurt or worse doing that kind of stuff. Stay safe out here.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

Indeed - it's incredible how many people underestimate the power of an oncoming train (and/or underestimate, if not are oblivious to) the danger of the third rail (or on railroad where applicable, overhead catenary)). Damn, even though my railfanning is always in public places, some of the public locations I've found being safe doesn't stop me from lingering nagging feelings about being safe if that makes any sense. Maybe I just overanalyze things, IDK.

[@kristainviayoutube500]

@@DanknDerpyGamerpeople don’t underestimate anything, its mainly bored teenagers mindlessly doing dumbass things.

[@RedArrow73]

There's a dude in PHL crawling into the broad Street Subway to make illicit videos. I was alarmed, and notified SEPTA.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

@@RedArrow73 Once on NY's Metro-North Railroad (NEw Haven Line, Mamaroneck Station) - I think it was like 11 years ago - I saw a guy who was trying to get the the south bound platform - instead of using the underpasses available, he climbed down onto the tracks, ran across all 4 tracks, and then climbed back uip. I was absolutely dumbfounded.

[@ice319]

@@DanknDerpyGamer there is no sense of fear that comes close to the feeling you get when you are operating a train at high speed and see someone on the tracks in front of you, knowing that you are going too fast to stop in time. That is just foolishly dangerous 😳

[@luislaplume8261]

I am old enough to remember when the R32s were new in 1964 and next to the World's Fair R33 and R36 type for service on the 7 line they were the most beautiful subway trains in NYC during the Mad Men era of the 1960s! 😊

[@dennisdevito2829]

I lived in the Bronx along the 6 line didn’t always have opportunity to the train set running on the 7 line but on the rare occasion when I did I just loved the look of those cars with the larger window , the blue interior and the light blue and whiteish road scheme

[@whereisthedollar]

Yes they were. The outside still look good too!

[@8avexp]

So am I. My very first subway ride was on a shiny new R-32 N train on July 21, 1965.

[@BMTEnjoyer160]

@@8avexpnice

[@Morales-nt6vi]

I love watching work trains since I was a kid in the mid 70s. We used to live on Morris Park Ave in the Bx on the fifth floor overlooking the 2 and 5 trains at E 180th st. I would sit on the fire escape and watch the diesels bringing in various types of work trains. This is definitely nostalgic. 👍

[@stevenrodriguez4352]

If I remember correctly the old subway cars are stripped of the vital circuitry and used as coral reefs at the bottom of the ocean am I right I miss the old subway cars

[@luislaplume8261]

​@@stevenrodriguez4352I am old enough to remember when the new subway trains with florescent lights inside came in, more people took out newspapers and magazines to read when compared to the old subway trains that had light bulbs. It made reading more easier. I am a New Yorker who grew up in NYC during the Mad Men era of the 1960s! 😊

[@davidng2336]

3828-3829 ran on the movie and excursion trains, also on the last R32 train in service. This pair will be missed. Makes me wonder exactly which R32 pairs are being saved for museum use. I do know 3360-3361 are definitely being saved.

[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

A video by AKG Transit claims that #3938-3939 has been "officially preserved to replace #3828-3829." In that same video, I also saw #3888-3889, #3894-3895, and #3646-3647. It seems the MTA wants to keep those sets.

[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

I do not know what exactly happened that made the MTA give up on #3828-3829 and preserve #3938-3939 instead. My guess is that the latter was determined to be in better condition than the former.

[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

But I still think they should've kept #3828-3829.

[@8avexp]

I believe 3350-53 have been set aside. 3352-3353 are now part of the Transit Museum.

[@seem823]

I actually have those #plates

[@acsupersport7981]

8:00 lovely shot with the cruise ship!!

[@lopwr1212]

It's the MSC Meravigilia, I was on it

[@christopherokhiria9980]

The R32s will be remembered, for sure. I wish they'd stay in service longer.

[@JonasLora-wx6ml]

Yeah I never been on one

[@billmoran3812]

Nice video! The first part in the yard, looked almost like a model. Interesting bunch of old cars. Nice train handling. But only in NY would there be so many supervisors in automobiles.

[@joshuacarrasco1536]

As a rail fan and as fright conductor for NS we are watching history here of NYCTA cars being set to retire and to be scrapped for good and being transported via fright to its final destination.from now to about 15 yrs from now we going to see r44 r46 r62a r62b that will never saw this day will come its amazing how its done to move they cars around when there time has come 👏

[@captainkeyboard1007]

Is the word "freight" instead of "fright" you want in your message? The word "fright" means fear: The word "freight" means goods. That is what you may have intended to be.

[@denismiller8466]

There's hope that The R-21 De Icer Train gonna be preserved like the Money train not just that but the R14 De Icer it has to be the oldest work train in service R.I.P R-32s 1964-2022 you will be forever be missed

[@kevinwong6588]

The R14 is the oldest in the NYCT fleet other than museum equipment.

[@t21229513]

Good ole RD 340

[@cliffpadilla5871]

The R32 is my all time favorite NYC train type. I miss them.

[@kaseycb7837]

Me too!!

[@gerrylee1687]

I miss riding between them 😂😂

[@Jaytothe_air]

I didnt know these was actually active tracks in the street still and them r32s looked very clean and operational the more you learn

[@jeremypreece870]

Hello from the UK, where there is almost no street running left. I watch a number of street running American videos and it is both an interesting video and sad to see more stuff being scrapped. Thank you for posting the video.

[@DJHammersTrains]

Glad you enjoyed!! Thankfully, operating examples of the cars shown in this video have been preserved.

[@jeremypreece870]

@@DJHammersTrainsGood to know

[@valentinodacarkid8068]

So only the yellow carcasses will be scraped ?

[@6TheButcher]

@@valentinodacarkid8068 Well those are The R17s, R21s Etc

[@Sven_Okas1967]

Thanks for that video. When the BVG hands over subway trains to me in Berlin for scrapping, they usually go to the scrapyard by truck. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven

[@DJHammersTrains]

Interesting! Always fun to hear how other systems do it. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@Sven_Okas1967]

@@DJHammersTrains Here is a video from the last minutes from a Berlin-Underground-Car. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJfchaCXlN6cd9U Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven

[@mikefagan6840]

I used to work for a private ambulance company on 41st Street just up from 2nd Avenue back in 86 and every morning we'd watch them shifting box cars around Bush terminal while getting our coffee on the Avenue. 🤘🤘❤❤ GREAT TIMES

[@cats0182]

The R32s look to still be in good condition.

[@russellgxy2905]

The double-edged sword of Budd cars. Structurally, it’s near impossible to kill em. The mechanics on the other hand, those are probably all but shot. The R32’s were the last Budds of their era to work under their own power. We still have M3’s on the LIRR, but those are some of the last in Budd’s product line

[@SynchroScore]

@@russellgxy2905 We still have the Budd-built CTA 2600 series in operation, at least for a bit longer. And Budd bilevels on Metra. IRM will have preserved examples, just as we have of the previous models of cars.

[@MemeReviewer]

@@SynchroScoreyep, unfortunately the CRRC 7000’s are planned to replace them in a few years, and since its CRRC they obviously have tons of problems, gonna miss having a rollsign.

[@SynchroScore]

@@MemeReviewer I won't be a bit surprised if they have serious structural problems after ten years of service.

[@MemeReviewer]

@@SynchroScore hehe yep, CRRC sucks

[@KayoticKal]

At least you got my good side.😂🤣😂. It was me operating it out the yard and down to 2nd ave before NY/NJ took it.

[@Jeff-uj8xi]

I was really surprised to see R-32 cars 3828-3829 in that consist being sent to an Ohio scrapper. I thought all of them that weren't being saved had already left. I was also surprised that when being pulled through that MTA yard at the beginning of this video, the interior lights were clearly on in those two cars {2:30 to 2:40 on the time bar}. Don't tell me they still have third rail shoes on them. Is there live third rail in that MTA yard or were the lights running on batteries? Hard to imagine that not one rail museum would have loved to get those two R-32 cars. They look to be in nice condition. Did I see roll signs still on them? If so the TA needs to have their heads examined, considering the value of those two cars and the roll signs to collectors and museums. What a missed opportunity !!

[@TheTransitFoamer]

I am going to miss the R32s😢

[@enzocannizzo8744]

The old Bay-ridge yards .. What fun as a kid watching movements 👍

[@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan]

Very sad that these vintage subway equipment aren’t to be preserved

[@munchizgreat]

Well to be fair, these cars aren’t exactly in the original condition they once were in, they were all welded up and cut up to act like boxcars, I mean they could’ve kept one of the end cars I guess but this is just a meh kinda car at this point, because it’s not even complete cars, they’re just shells, just boxcars

[@JillianLatorreTS]

After these two R17 CWR cars went, there are only three R17 cars left in existence (6609, 6688, and 6895). I am going to be operating 6688 on 6/27/2024 and 6895 is pretty much a rust bucket now, with missing windows and possibly other interior stuff. I kind of wanted to acquire 6895, but considering how bad of condition it is in and considering I am thinking about building a replica of the never-built R39, I might as well also build an R17 replica as well.

[@Boypogikami132]

That train in the thumbnail looks really nice

[@Sonic57053]

What was the reason for 3828-3829 being sent to scrap and replaced by 3938-3939? They look fine to me

[@kurtismckemmie4850]

Those two silver cars would make a great diner.

[@FurryFailure]

The first shot 100% Looks like a model train, I was convinced until I saw someone move lmao

[@void_official404]

I don't know why but to me the R32 is like main mascot and symbol of New York city subway. Old is always gold. The R32s will always be in service in my heart forever I hope the R46 stay a little longer there are my favorite too.

[@josephheston9238]

Just like to me, the Almond Joy will always be the main mascot for Philadelphia.

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

13:13 awe I thought those R-32’s were being saved and were just there to adapt the couplers or something

[@ApproachMedium]

Awesome video! Are they still using the Bush Terminal yard on 1st Ave. for anything these days? Been a few years since I was last over there.

[@dennisrankin325]

I saw this train being loaded at a welded rail work site in Brooklyn many years ago when I was a guest of the NYCTA and worked in track maintenance myself for the TTC. It was an eye opener. I wrote a report about it and the TTC then had some fledgling beginnings with delivering strings of rail out to work sites soon there after. Thanx for rekindling my memories.

[@dfwrider3830]

oh these are for moving rail? i wondered what they would be useful for. didnt look like tools or workers could really be in them.

[@matthewadonis3020]

5:44 R32 looks new still

[@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089]

That's because it was one of the restored r32's on the 2021-2022 retirement runs

[@YoungNYCSubwayFan]

Out of curiosity, the trucks (aka the undercarriages) are also being sent to Ohio, or are they scrapped differently than the subway car itself?

[@murphyjenkins5042]

I'd like to know. I'd love to buy some trucks to rework for an interurban car

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

​@@murphyjenkins5042Can probably call the scrap yard and ask to buy them and pay for them. Scrapyards will do anything for extra money that avoids having to cut up stuff so they may consider it. In the UK a lot of Locos where preserved because the guy who brought them didn't want to have to scrap them straight away as he had lots of rolling stock coming in to be scrapped. As a result most were saved and he's become a legend to heritage railways.

[@gavinhayes373]

Needs to be donated and put in a museum

[@blakemcnamara9105]

It's a shame these couldn't have been restored for museum use.

[@4-8-4Northern]

A few are being preserved.

[@josephveksenfeld5344]

Some of the R-32s have been preserved. 3352 and 3353 (they operated in mated pairs) are at NYC Transit Museum. This pair led the first R32 revenue service in 1964. Their running mates 3350 and 3351 are also slated for preservation. NYPD also uses R32s 3594 and 3595 for training.

[@42luke93]

You know NYPD has a R110B in the training facility? Its a cut up model, cool stuff. College Point@@josephveksenfeld5344f

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

It you are not happy contact the scrappers, but I can imagine they already are gone.

[@42luke93]

@@REDARROW_A_Personal True they probably would have no issue.

[@windynabbie]

The quality of your video is fantastic.

[@JonasLora-wx6ml]

At E 180 Street there used to be a Red bird in the 2nd yard

[@Bob-bm3pd]

What's up with the little white crescent moons on the axil bearings? Are they service marks?

[@SoFloRR1018]

Great video!

[@sjice69]

Those R 32's are looking to clean to be headed to the scrap yard........Sad.

[@kotarohanawa7909]

Hi, thanks for sharing this video. I wonder if there are any information on how many R32s are still remaining on MTA inventory as of now as many are leaving it’s property since it’s retirement. Greetings from Tokyo Japan

[@DJHammersTrains]

Sadly we aren't sure exactly how many are left, but there are plenty of R32s that have been preserved for the NY Transit Museum.

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

Took those A and C trains as a child. Wish I could get a non functional Nscale set to put on some flat cars

[@ACLTony]

Red Birds disguised in yellow! Sad to them in this condition. The R32's still looked good.

[@galaxyrailfanning7860]

Very nice video! Awesome operations and filming locations! The first set of 5 continuous welded rail cars as well as one of the R32s arrived in Ohio on flatcars via CSX M363 on the 10th of this month!

[@dougleclaire9424]

For those of us not in the know but fascinated by street level train movement.....what you mean a pair of R32's...are those the two more modern looking silver cars? And two retired R designated cars (the yellow ones?) Please explain ...it appeared there were a lot more yellow cars than that. Sorry...a novice who enjoyed your footage. Thank you.

[@sernajrlouis]

Cool video and channel just subscribed. Sharp video. Looks great

[@thebrooklynrailfanner]

5:41 that sets of R32 I caught it on 6/12/23 it was on Jay Street Metrotech on the A line

[@jdubbs3422]

Awesome job!

[@user-df8yr3ys3b]

I'm a railway enthusiast from India. I love these videos. Are the Diesel Locomotives custom built for the subway ?

[@Punchdat222]

Damn! These are now gone, huh?? I remember the days seeing these parked up at the linden shops.

[@NitroVII]

Those R32's are pristine! They're getting scrapped?

[@thoseonetrains]

i wonder if they'll be replaced or in the future some other cars like the R62s, R68s and even in the future if this happens, retired NTTs. I still wonder if they could save 6349 and 6350 from scrap so they could be converted into work cars. Perhaps they'd be called "R142W" cars

[@thoseonetrains]

the only slight problem is that for this to happen all the stuff stripped has to be... added back (maybe parts from 6346 and 6348 could be salvaged) and plus the electrical components might need to be redone in a way that only 6349 and 6350 have electricity and not be permenantly attached to the damaged cars (6346-6348)

[@thoseonetrains]

i mean they already have R62As that work for garbage (I've seen 1904 quite a bit)

[@RXSVN_2]

0:33 Nice horn 5:55 Those yellow cars carry rails.

[@TrainMedia00]

It sad to see these Subway units to scrap but there still one of them left out there

[@tonymento7460]

I just seen a train video on Wide World of Trains filming an CSX freight train with four flat cars of the NYMTA yellow work cars they had no trucks under them they were sitting on wooden platforms heading for Chicago Illinois

[@JonasLora-wx6ml]

R32s,R17s,and R22s you will be missed

[@ryangill9058]

rip you will be missed R17 R21 R22 and r32s

[@ThaMastTransit_MSDWolf8420]

Nice video

[@lowfurts]

Those cars served us well shame those R32s are going also

[@bootsdocsandconspiracies6589]

Why did the cars need to be put on flatcars?

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

Freight railroads won't move those nasty things.

[@Dontb8mad]

Can subway trains use the same tracks as freight trains

[@Bassotronics]

Yes. They all use the same gauge. But obviously, if there is no third power rail or some other electric means to power the motors, the Subway cars are not going anywhere. Unless pushed or pulled by a self powered locomotive.

[@MrPedroramos8911]

Sad to see you go

[@anthonymaida5718]

Great video What train yard is that?

[@edwardalexanderjr2595]

I can remember the R62 CARS

[@Sleeper____1472]

Never expected to see a CWR subway train.

[@Chris-zs5qb]

You can still see the covid advertisements in the R32s

[@fdfpi47]

That first shot almost looked like it could be a model train

[@RXSVN_2]

2:56 That is a dirty horn 🤣

[@ad-hocmodeller5285]

how soon will this train leave 65th Street yard? is it goodly seem from 2nd avenue? Or will I need a binocular to see it?

[@sarcasticguyz6251]

WOW been in Brooklyn for more than a decade, never seen them running on 3rd, 1st and through the army terminal!!! GREAT WORK

[@DJHammersTrains]

Thanks!

[@VictorianMaid99]

I often wonder when rail cars are sent to scrape how they could be bought and restored. What would be that process. When I say restored I actual mean fixed up to display in a museum.

[@fireutility21]

can someone clarify for me; Continuous Welded Rail car in this context? My understanding of CWR cars/trains are open air racks that transport Continuous Welded Rails around 40 sections of it generally 100's to 1,000's of feet long. What I see on the screen looks like a consist permanently coupled cars. Were they somehow used to discretely transport CWR?

[@josephheston9238]

The cars got the ends cut open to allow the rail to travel though the entire consist.

[@michaelgorman4229]

It going to Ashtabula, Ohio

[@Hogdriver88]

Those R32s still look new - a shame to see them go.

[@Sonic57053]

Thats the Ex-Museum Set 3828-3829. No clue why they were sent to scrap

[@josephveksenfeld5344]

@@Sonic57053Because 3350-3351 replaced them in the museum inventory. 3352-3353 are historically more important because they led the first R32 revenue service in September 1964. Their running mates 3350-3351 are also slated for preservation.

[@MrAbcdfeg]

What were these cars used for? Are the just gutted passenger cars or where they for some other purpose? Why are all the windows blanked over?

[@BMTEnjoyer160]

The yellow ones were retired passenger cars that were converted for work service

[@JillianLatorreTS]

They were used to carry continuous welded rail, which for the subway come in lengths of 400ft., which is why each of these sets are eight IRT cars long. The reason why they use IRT-dimensioned cars for these sets is so they can go anywhere in the subway system without clearance issues. The rail itself is made out of a steel alloy that is not easily fatigued, so they can bend around turns when they are transported and form curved track if needed. There were four of these sets ACR, BCR, CCR, and DCR. Sets ACR and BCR were replaced with purpose-made flat cars in 1999 around. The sets in this video “CCR and DCR” were also replaced with purpose-made flat cars in 2022 when this video was taken. The replacement flat cars (IRT-dimensioned like all maintenance-of-way subway equipment) are also lettered ACR, BCR, CCR, and DCR in four eight-car sets.

[@anindrapratama]

i wonder how rusty the IRT work trains are

[@Mama-mkm]

in 2022n= on farewell of r32 3828 was rided

[@brenrob7403]

So they out welded rails in those old cars? Cool

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

Those cars look scary. Carcasses with big holes cut around the end doors for rails to go from car to car. Why didn't they use flat cars?

[@josephveksenfeld5344]

@@MilwaukeeF40C Because they have a steady supply of old cars going into retirement that still have some useful life left in them. Unlike passenger service cars that see constant use the continuous rail cars are used occasionally, often once or twice a week. Other retiring cars are used as rider cars, some used to provide traction for trash trains, some have been converted into pump cars.

[@camera9024]

No! Please! Don’t leave me!!

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

The Interborough Express is supposed to have a station at the Brooklyn Navy yard

[@bklyncyclist]

It's the Brooklyn Army Terminal, not the Navy Yard. But yes, the IBX will have a terminal there. It will also likely include some yard and work space.

[@scottyerkes1867]

Kinda sad seeing old cars headed to scrap yard

[@Chris-zs5qb]

Is that one of the R32 pair that was parked in the Canarsie Yard for the past year or so?

[@kolejnakolej.1437]

Interesting video. 👍 Greetings from Poland.

[@stevenpivornik9982]

Were these old subway cars? I guess those were windows they welded shut to prevent squatters

[@tonymanzo3766]

Is there new equipment that replaces the specialty cars, cruise ship on the move, too

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

With more R211s coming the R46s become work trains and the R32s are going to be scrapped and only two operational ones at the nytm and the shore line trolley museum has one that is operational and the rest are on display by private collectors

[@tonymanzo3766]

@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 weren’t they keeping an entire r32 10 car train for movies, what equipment is the irt going to use r62 for welded rail.

[@RailRide]

​@@tonymanzo3766 NYCT already has purpose-built CWR flatcars for that task.

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

@@tonymanzo3766 the r62x won't become work trains until enough r262s are in service

[@skyforce2132]

How do you know when things like this are about to happen?

[@mikefagan6840]

Usually late night into the dawn. Low traffic time.

[@Printer0011]

Because either Hammers works at NYCT or intern's there

[@zakitransitguytv]

I didn't go why mta just don't make a remake of the old trains like r44 r32 and r42 and put new seats and rolling sign and then do the same thing like they are with r211 trains and reused it from the old trains

[@victorkoval3783]

Were these cars used to transport goods after being operated in the subway?

[@reactortechroblox]

whats the purpose of these trains? to bring old ones to a scrapyard?

[@JillianLatorreTS]

They were used to carry continuous welded rail, which for the subway come in lengths of 400ft., which is why each of these sets are eight IRT cars long. The reason why they use IRT-dimensioned cars for these sets is so they can go anywhere in the subway system without clearance issues. The rail itself is made out of a steel alloy that is not easily fatigued, so they can bend around turns when they are transported and form curved track if needed. There were four of these sets ACR, BCR, CCR, and DCR. Sets ACR and BCR were replaced with purpose-made flat cars in 1999 around. The sets in this video “CCR and DCR” were also replaced with purpose-made flat cars in 2022 when this video was taken. The replacement flat cars (IRT-dimensioned like all maintenance-of-way subway equipment) are also lettered ACR, BCR, CCR, and DCR in four eight-car sets.

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

Why aren’t the locomotives ever back to back and instead have a work car between them?

[@AviationMetalSmith]

Why are they moving covered hoppers at 14:18?

[@jamespuglisi5525]

Sad I know 15 people opening stores that would have paid 100,000 each for these for there shops

[@Oliver61500]

beautiful video. Very interesting . Thanks for sharing. Hope to see others soon.

[@marc7200]

so what is the story with these? i suppose these were old subaway carts too old to be deemed for use/preservation? why are they welded shut?

[@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089]

So what are they going to use when they need a train like this? Rip CWR

[@mambomta]

Most likely new equipment.

[@DJHammersTrains]

They have new CWR handling flatcars that have been seen roaming the system :)

[@iapoloskof]

Crazy New York...

[@lynnwilliams9968]

What type train is that.

[@RedArrow73]

Ahhh . . . . . . the sweet sound of Wabco AA-2"s . . .

[@josephcosta5161]

What a shame , beautiful cars can be restored

[@michaelquinones-lx6ks]

One Atheran and One Atlas moving a string of 'Life Like' Proto 2000 subway cars to their destination.

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

Bachmann made the closest thing to those switchers.

[@Richard-od7yd]

This looks like the SUNSET PARK WORK YARDS

[@AEMoreira81]

Is Loco 80 also being scrapped?

[@gerrylee1687]

What time was this?