DJI Action 5 Pro Firmware update. Did they fix it?

[@JakeSloan]

what do you think of the new firmware?

[@BlackapinoTheTechGuy]

I sold My Action4 and keeping my Action5 Pro and then compare my Dji to My insta360 Ace Pro

[@Lausi_FPV]

Did you ever compare Photo quality of Action 4 vs. Action 5? I'm wanting to buy either one but don't know if 150€ more for the Action 5 is worth it because i think that the Action 4 Still delivers great Quality Videos. But I can't tell how far they are apart in terms of photo quality

[@Karan_Choudhary2400]

@@Lausi_FPV do you got ur answers bcz i also have the same doubts 🥲

[@ScottBalkum]

Also, for those who may wonder, the ACtion 5 Pro can withstand being removed from a vehicle at 70mph and hitting the pavement, tumbling to a stop. IT never lost connection with the app. Unfortunately, I stopped recording 10 seconds before that happened. As a side note, remember to clean your windshield before applying a suction cup, even if it looked clean.

[@ScottBalkum]

Also, now I need to find a usb port door.

[@PhilipBlank]

Great to note, but always tether my man! I use a magnet mount and a suction, tether off one and mount off the other.

[@PhilipBlank]

@@ScottBalkumreally glad it survived though haha, I ran over my GoPro with the same event, but it survived.

[@ScottBalkum]

@@PhilipBlank Yes, that is absolutely the correct way. I didn’t have a 2nd connection available or with me. But, after that, the usbC cable became the tether. The interesting thing was the camera did not separate from the suction mount. That little clamp/magnet mount is strong!

[@londontaxifilms7313]

Good advice.

[@RonaldBrown59]

I don't see much of a difference on KZbin, but I'm sure it looks better on your computer monitor. Thanks for the update Jake.

[@JakeSloan]

No problem!

[@Emtbtoday]

Crank youtube quality up to max in settings the difference is incredible forna firmware update!

[@Coatsey007]

As always, Jake, a really good video highlighting your findings of the differences, thank you.

[@JakeSloan]

My pleasure!

[@Amer-m8y]

I believe the OA5 would be improved if HDR wasn’t enabled by default. HDR tends to work best at sunrise or sunset, rather than under cloudy conditions. What are your thoughts?

[@JakeSloan]

I agree and if you shoot in D-log it is turned off

[@Vapor_Roads]

@@JakeSloan Do you believe they'll add the ability to turn off or lessen the over-processed HDR effect in the future? It's the only thing putting me off from buying it.

[@Amer-m8y]

DJI consistently listens to their customers when there is a significant demand or need for improvement.

[@MarinaRiadCooks]

@@JakeSloanis it practical and fast to just apply the LUT in the mimo app to turn off the hdr effect for beginners? I didn’t want to color grade any videos because I don’t want to complicate my workflow I am just starting vlogging and also I need camera that works under any weather condition and bear falling that is why I don’t want to go with OP3 😢

[@MariusMocan-mn4do]

@@JakeSloan That's what I was going to suggest. I would Never use any of these action camera with the default colors. It's terrible!

[@dustin2048]

I bought the 5 pro in part after watching one of your review videos. It was one of the few that gave helpful info not just to sell. I still have the original firmware but I've been very happy even in low light. I agree the new firmware looks better especially the colors. I will be updating firmware soon. Thanks for the content!

[@JakeSloan]

awesome!

[@MCToon]

I'm headed to Antarctica and bought an Action 5 Pro with the Mic 2 to record all the time I'm awake. I have an external battery pack to charge the camera while using it so the battery lasts all day. What do you think about using an ND filter while on the ice in Antarctica?

[@JakeSloan]

you definitely can but I would only recommend using one when the camera is stationary. ND filters tend to mess up the stabilization when you are moving

[@lonewolfadventures0187]

Thank you for ALL your videos. I have been debating if I should switch from GoPro to DJI... You are very thorough and specific with the comparisons.. Work my friend. Keep up the good job

[@JakeSloan]

Glad it was helpful!

[@HooktOnCarolina]

Are you getting the insta 360 ace pro 2? Would love to see a comparison between DJI and insta 360

[@JakeSloan]

I did buy one and I am working on the comparison now

[@goldmanstacks1445]

Great update thank you

[@JakeSloan]

You're welcome

[@CRAGLORD]

thanks dude for letting us know!

[@JakeSloan]

You bet!

[@sutv6754]

Good Stuff. Thanks Jake

[@JakeSloan]

you're welcome

[@MhikzTatz]

This is what im looking for. same time and day, with same camera with different bitrate Thanks!!

[@JakeSloan]

Glad I could help!

[@hugecat1113]

love these Action 5 Pro videos! Are you planning to review the new insta ace pro 2 and compare these two?

[@JakeSloan]

yes I bought one and I am working on a comparison now

[@ZEWNATURY]

I How I envy you this winter and snow. Greetings from Poland

[@JakeSloan]

LOL thanks

[@londontaxifilms7313]

Is the new firmware standard setting the same as the old firmware?

[@JakeSloan]

I think so but I didn't test it specifically

[@mizan9232]

@1:10 is this built in microphone? or bluetooth?

[@JakeSloan]

thats the DJI mic 2

[@mizan9232]

@JakeSloan do you have video with built in mic?

[@MariusMocan-mn4do]

I can see an improvement in the fine details, color and dynamic range in some cases. Look at the rocks on the ground. Way more different shades of grays and tan.

[@JakeSloan]

exactly

[@stephenf3838]

Love your channel

[@JakeSloan]

Thank you

[@marctrainor5595]

Definite improvement in clairty and color intensity or brightness.

[@JakeSloan]

Agreed

[@lilipok3521]

Yes, you can definitely see the improved colors on the new firmware - it’s like there’s a purple tint on the old one. For comparing finer details in the video, it’d be ideal to mount the camera on the drone and fly through foliage or snow, but even in this footage, the new firmware is the clear winner. Hopefully, DJI releases a similar update for the Air 3s.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed

[@kevins7360]

I'd like to see the gopro 13 in there. It's detail in sunlight on snow was so clearly better.

[@JakeSloan]

You did see my comparison so you can see the differences

[@lynsmith1096]

Good video Jake

[@JakeSloan]

Thanks Lynn

[@BrianKushner]

Now they need to fix the Air 3S

[@jpyuce2054]

whats wrong with Air 3 s???

[@jpyuce2054]

??

[@BrianKushner]

@@jpyuce2054 Same issue as this. The Bitrate is too low.

[@JakeSloan]

I assume you mean add a higher bit rate option and yes that would be nice

[@BrianKushner]

@@JakeSloan Yes Jake...thanks.

[@MuhammadBaberMughal]

Awesome video again 👌 Did they fix the low bitrate issue in the new firmware?

[@JakeSloan]

Yes mostly. Still the action 4 has a sharper image

[@greggie111]

Can we pls have the actual bit rate stats in Mbps? For the 4, and the 5 standard and high? From your sample files. Thanks.

[@JakeSloan]

Let me see what I can do

[@macvos]

Still undecided on the Action 4 vs Action 5 Adventure bundle. The price difference is €140, so pretty significant. Supposedly better battery life, an altimeter and overlays from Garmin measurements on the 5 do sound interesting though. Could you tell how the 4 and 5 stack up in image quality and battery life after the update with higher bitrates? I can imagine the higher bitrates closing the gap in image quality, but also losing its advantage in battery life.

[@JakeSloan]

Honestly the action 4 is SOLID and I still recommend it with hesitation.

[@macvos]

@JakeSloan thanks for the quick response. Do you notice a real-world difference in battery life? For day long mountain (bike) trips this could make a difference.

[@nobis64]

Do a side by side with both action 5’s on a tripod to minimize motion blur and you can really see details

[@JakeSloan]

interesting

[@mertgulsan5206]

Awesome. Could you please share your shooting parameters ? It shoots very badly in its original form. I even thought about returning it.

[@JakeSloan]

I shoot in D-log AWB, auto exposure with -0.3 usually

[@JoeyIoT]

Thanks for the update 🫡

[@JakeSloan]

You're welcome

[@EduarFilms]

I feel they changed the white balance to be more warm, but not necessarily make it look better, I see the whole image just a little bit more yellowish, in my opinion

[@JakeSloan]

slightly but you can also still set it manually

[@WiljanWiljan]

Please compare the action 5 with its new firmware against the ace pro 2 (with latest firmware).

[@JakeSloan]

I just received my Ace Pro 2 and a video is coming

[@PhillipSkraba]

Same Same. The original firmware was already great, I feel that DJI just gave into peer pressure and dropped a high bitrate to shut everyone up, I still use the standard bitrate to save space, no one will ever notice. I would like to see them swallow their pride with the 13.5 stops of dynamic range and give us the option to turn off HDR for a more natural looking image, that I would welcome.

[@JakeSloan]

yeah I agree the difference is so small...

[@ugpfpv361]

Think it might make more of a difference for recording in flat and color grading🤷‍♀️

[@babyboy1971]

Yes!!! HDR on/off toggle in next firmware is a MUST!

[@jonasgillmann]

I love this kind of setup to compare different cameras. I‘d be thrilled if you could offer such a comparison between a couple of full frame cameras. The Nikon Z8 looks to be very capable. No other camera offers 8.6K oversampled 4K60p. Downsampling an 8K picture to 4K with 60fps gives you incredibly detailed videos but I’d be curious to see how this 8.6K extended oversampled 4K60p in the Nikon Z8 and Z9 compares to the upcoming Sony a1 II or perhaps the Canon R5 Mark II. I haven’t used 8K much but it could be useful for cropping and rearranging shots in post so a side by side 8K video comparison might also be interesting. I wonder if the rumored DJI Mavic 4 (Pro) will have a new main sensor capable of 8K60p recording or if they’ll stick with 20MP and 5.1K50p recording.

[@JakeSloan]

I need to get hold of a Z8, I have been working on a comparison between the Sony A1 and Canon r5II

[@jonasgillmann]

@@JakeSloan I know it’s probably simply too much work to put together a comparison of so many different cameras but I feel like the Nikon Z8 is so underrated especially when it comes to video features. Many cameras offer 4K60p downsampled from 6K but ONLY Nikon offers 4K60p downsampled from an 8K sensor. That’s a lot of data to process but I hope the Sony a1 II will offer full sensor readout 8K oversampled 4K60p as well. The Nikon Z8 also offers 8.6K60p internal compressed RAW recording + incredible RED LUTs to go with it. The 8.6K oversampled 4K60p (extended oversampling) is my favorite feature though. Even Canons newest R5 II only offers 4K Fine (8K oversampled) up to 30fps. 4K60p is line-skipped. That’s why I‘m really tempted to go for the Nikon Z8 but I’ll wait for the Sony a1 II as it might offer 8K oversampled 4K60p as well.

[@ScottBalkum]

Lots of snow too!!!

[@JakeSloan]

SOOO much lol

[@uptowndisco2]

Tried the High on mine , to my eyes it looked no better so i have set back to normal Bitrate for the smaller file sizes

[@JakeSloan]

teh difference is so small lol

[@JP4]

I saw this update also included a timer function like what GoPro and Insta360 offers. Does the timer function work for you? I tried it on a recent shoot and it failed big time. I can’t get it to work at all. It’s the only function I miss from GoPro.

[@JakeSloan]

I haven't had time to test it yet

[@아웃도어일기]

Even after updating the firmware, it shows lower video details than its predecessor, OA4. Because OA4 has a higher bitrate. OA5 is a product focused on battery runtime. You have to give up on image quality and color.

[@JakeSloan]

it is definitely a trade off

[@marciomvp9458]

Cold start/record with new firmware: is it as fast as GoPro 11/12/13 ?

[@JakeSloan]

its about the same speed or a little faster in my experience

[@80211Denver]

Most was the same but there are moments like around :45 when you are exiting the ice cave that you have way more noise on the old firmware 5 is def brighter than 4 1:35 logo on jacket far better on 5 but on the whole... for what an action camera is generally use for... marginal.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed

[@NathanMannin]

Thank you for sharing! With the firmware update, would you recommend the DJI Action 4 or 5 for video quality? My GoProa struggle in low light for my car videos, so I was wondering which would be best for that and for better clarity 😁 Cheers!

[@JakeSloan]

Either one will do MUCH better than GoPro in low light. If your budget allows go with the action 5 but the action 4 is fantastic as well if you want to save some money

[@cliff_jarenantopina8165]

I got the action 4 and would mainly use it for vlogs. However, I find the OA4 a little difficult to work with under low light, should I switch to OA5?

[@JakeSloan]

You won't see a big difference between the 2 in low light, the action 5 is better but only marginally so. Lowlight is very difficult for any action camera

[@cliff_jarenantopina8165]

@@JakeSloan Awesome! Thanks man!

[@odinata]

New firmware vs Action 4?

[@JakeSloan]

watch the video because it's in there

[@Sirinealameddine]

I like your video, can u make video at night to see if dji fix super night mode

[@JakeSloan]

I have a video comparing night mode with other cameras coming that is using the newer firmware

[@davidwalker2402]

The 5 was optimized the bitrate makes little or no visable difference as far as I can see. It was pretty good even using the old FW.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed

[@Motorider98]

The low bitrate remained at 2.7 K.

[@JakeSloan]

well it's 2.7k 😂. tbh the difference between the 2 modes is small

[@StephenAbroad]

I am saying it's not worth the upgrade if you already have an earlier version. The tech hasn't changed enough to make a real noticeable difference.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed only if you are coming from an action 3 or earlier

[@iamearthbeing]

: Does it get warm, while recording in 4k....? I got mine...and the front screen area, gets warm, after about 15 minutes in 4k60....and after 25 minutes in 4k30. I use this camera for just walk n talk or on a hike. would like to know if this is normal....🙏

[@JakeSloan]

that is very normal especially if you are filming in 4k60. It's absolutely fine

[@iamearthbeing]

@JakeSloan : That's a relief.... Thank you... 🙌

[@Emtbtoday]

Massive difference, makes it harder to choose what to go for now for me Ace pro 2 or action 5 pro? Im hearing from my friend Google have removed the DJI app from playstore under the new safe apps security updates?! Can you shed a little more light on this please if it's only now Apple based product cause that would certainly change everything.

[@JakeSloan]

I do use an android device occasionally as well and just side load (download) the app directly from DJI.

[@Nambeindrn]

What Abt the settings

[@JakeSloan]

what about the settings... I matched these so they were exact comparisons

[@Origam-I]

there has to be a mistake, even the typo on the right look worst....along with the footage ( edit ) youtube may compress differently based on detail amount...after loading it got even

[@JakeSloan]

there is no mistake

[@Origam-I]

@JakeSloan yep, figured it out in my edit

[@johnycinema21]

After checking my action 5 before and after update…it looks the same and didn’t look sharper at all.i compared it with my GoPro 11 and the 11 is sharper in daylight. In low light the action 5 it’s leaps ahead. So i would say they did not fix the bitrate option and it lowered the battery life

[@JakeSloan]

yeah the improvement on the bitrate side is so small

[@johnnyappleseedz422]

How do I record voice audio if I buy this for VLOGs on a motorcycle? I want crisp, clear voice without proprietary bulky shit like GoPro.

[@JakeSloan]

for that I would get a DJI mic 2 and see if it fits inside your helmet or use a DJI mic 2 with a lav mic inside your helmet

[@FotografHuatorp]

Then I wait for Air 3s bitrate firmware also :-)

[@JakeSloan]

lol

[@anrods]

From Osmo 1 I'm buying the Osmo 5 thanks for the review.

[@JakeSloan]

you are welcome

[@StephenAbroad]

I went from osmo 1 to 5.... only difference is price

[@allthewayonehunnid879]

​@@StephenAbroad - Are you suggesting that the upgrade wasn't worth the money? What about the LOG profile and 10-bit color? Is there no difference from Cinelike D at 8 Bit? I'm considering upgrading my 4 camera a Osmo Action 1 setup.

[@IanTed]

The Action 4 still looks better, sure it will be fixed with further firmware updates…I have both.

[@JakeSloan]

I think the Action 4 looks better because it has a more contrasty image and yes slightly sharper

[@blackmamba6938]

I don't think it looks that much different. I'll probably use the lower bitrate to save space.

[@JakeSloan]

nice

[@by.jayanta]

It is a marketing stunt that DJI does everytime they release a Action cam. News about new firmware update makes the camera more desirable to potential buyers.

[@JakeSloan]

Well frankly I think the action 4 still stands up and is a great camera.

[@BikesHikesLikes]

This whole bitrate and hdr thing has me not buying.

[@bensimpson9175]

I noticed the skin tone of your face looks more acurrate once you cut to yourself at your desk. Im viewing on a budget Android so its a challenge, but the old firmware looked a little...green?

[@JakeSloan]

A bit but the camera at my desk is a canon r5 II so I would hope it looks better lol. It’s 10x the cost

[@bensimpson9175]

@@JakeSloan Haaaaaha I biffed it! It looks great, lol.

[@JasonLorette]

I can definitely see the difference…snow, Uugh. Lol

[@JakeSloan]

ROFL too true!

[@prasantabhattacharjee899]

Good morning, I am P. Bhattacharjee from India, your vlog about action camera is very helpful for me , I am not a vlogger, I am a traveller and like travel photography , I have a Sony alpha 6400 and other one is Sony HDR AX 43 A handycam, now I want to buy a action camera , my option is dgi osmo action 5 Pro and Insta 360 ACE pro 2 . Which one best for me in all respect by your advice, I don't want Want any editing just plug and play on TV .

[@JakeSloan]

I would go action 5 all the way

[@blackmamba6938]

I can' t see shit. They look exactly the same at least with the KZbin compression.

[@JakeSloan]

yeah I kinda had my doubts about it making it through the compressions of YT

[@skinbones]

it was just for calm down customers, looks the same to me! Action 4 still looks better

[@JakeSloan]

The Action 4 definitely holds up in image quality

[@PattayaReality-ms5hv]

Dji launched this cam without doing any homework from A4 they could have gone 1 inch sensor even though its an action cam, that would have done away with the low light and hdr problems, not buying this year and neither Insta360 AP2 did anything much to the camera same goes with GoPro (which I will never buy again)

[@JakeSloan]

the trouble with a 1" sensor is focus. you have to have a focus system that adjusts for anything close or else its out of focus OR you have to have a much more closed down fstop

[@venbeer]

What makes you think that would be simple, and just work? People complain about these overheating, that'll only make it worse

[@krzyspospieszynski4821]

put it into your NLE and pushed and pull the colours and black values to actually see how and when the image breaks apart. otherwise you're a slave to your export format. try it out of the sun. lets see how this high bit rate starts to break up with higher iso's.

[@JakeSloan]

I’ll see if I can do that next time

[@KamilSkalny]

It's not necessary better per se. Colours are more vivid and sharpness has been increased. I personally preferred previous. Now it look like cheap Chinese camera. But I guess most of people prefers this way.

[@JakeSloan]

you can change the settings to get what you want out of it sharpness and noise reduction wise

[@KamilSkalny]

@@JakeSloan Good to have an option. It's only my personal taste. Your footage looks better before the update. But most of people likes when picture is more vivid and sharper. That difference may be even more pronoun when you watch it on the screen of your phone.

[@medicatednepal6535]

the high bitrate is 120 Mbps were as action 4 has 130. action 4 has better video quality more natural looks

[@JakeSloan]

action 4 is still a great contender

[@allthewayonehunnid879]

The Action 4 is just... better.

[@JakeSloan]

it still holds up for sure

[@charleslevan8211]

Your face looks almost plastic in scenes with the new firmware. Especially going in and out of different lighting. It’s just way too soft. The still of the mountain range actually looks clearer with the old firmware, and at 3:07, the ice looks washed out at the back of the ice cave with the new firmware. Something looks really artificial about the new firmware. I’m curious, does it look that way on your computer before you run it through KZbin?

[@JakeSloan]

No which is why I said what I said about KZbin compression, it makes it REALLY difficult to do fine comparisons like this and show the differences online

[@StephenAbroad]

Zero difference... selecting high bitrate still gives you 100mb or less

[@JakeSloan]

True but also locked into h265 which is a higher compression

[@moguerlain7158]

Warning ⚠️ hi, I just cancelled my order DJi Pro 5 because the shipping take way more what they said, and that customer service could not help with that I did not want to do business with them because they do not care,

[@JakeSloan]

you can always order from MANY OTHER places...

[@906Roofer]

Ace 2 pro is better....higher bitrate and better in low light

[@JakeSloan]

comparison coming soon

[@JavierSN95]

Go pro 13 still beats it

[@JakeSloan]

GoPro 13 is solid!

[@RichAloha]

Strongly Disagree! The DJI Action 5 Pro and Insta360 Ace Pro 2 are much better and wayyy more reliable! :)

[@DannyFyffe]

Jake: From what I can see, all they did was add a "beauty" filter and fooled you. Look at your skin. They smooth your skin a little with a blur and that is the big change as far as I can see given KZbin compression. Even when you showed the still of the mountain behind you, it had the blur effect on it.

[@JakeSloan]

remember this is highly compressed after it goes on KZbin so the subtle differences are hard to show

[@ppdrum]

TLDR there is no noticable difference

[@JakeSloan]

Not really once KZbin compresses it

[@Helghast73]

​@@JakeSloan Yeah good point.

[@eonwalk]

No diff😂😂

[@JakeSloan]

very difficult to see the differences once it is compressed on KZbin

[@eonwalk]

@JakeSloan Then i dont understand why they complaining about the bitrate? 😆

[@TheMTBRider96]

is it me or everything just looks worse? the colors are worse and everything looks just more washed down. i almost feel like it should've come out in a few months rather than a month ago as a mess

[@JakeSloan]

to me the new firmware looks closer to what I see in person BUT it still has that "HDR" look which I don't care for but some easy color grading or adjustments and that is fixed

[@jpyuce2054]

it calls Sensor ... not SensoRRRR . guys stop talking like a girl .. SensoRRRRRR

[@JakeSloan]

ok then

[@idarrruwu]

looks like someone’s having a bad day