Technics SL-1210MK2 vs SL-1210MK7 - Which turntable is the best & what's the difference?

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Күн бұрын

When it comes to turntables, one name has always stood out above the rest, so when Technics announced the brand new SL-1210MK7 earlier this year, everyone wondered the same thing - How does it compare to the legendary, 'Club Standard' SL-1210MK2!?
Ratzi's joined by turntable nerd & scratch extraordinaire Jimi Needles in The Ratcave to compare the two decks, putting the MK7 through it's paces with some hard cuts and scratching!
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@rsanchez7111
@rsanchez7111 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 38 years on a pair mark 2. Made back in 1982. Still going strong
@repletereplete8002
@repletereplete8002 4 жыл бұрын
me too with mine going on 30 years and I've had them out at countless outdoor parties, festivals and squat raves and all that's broken in all that time is 1 deck que light led needs replacing. Absolutely the best purchase I ever made.
@rsanchez7111
@rsanchez7111 4 жыл бұрын
Replete Replete that’s about right. These things last forever
@djbhe
@djbhe 4 жыл бұрын
I have 27 years on my pair of 1200MK2's.
@rsanchez7111
@rsanchez7111 4 жыл бұрын
djbhe nice!!!! Those Mk2’s are the working horse
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 4 жыл бұрын
always nice to hear an OG pair still going strong!
@TheAnunnaki-NYC
@TheAnunnaki-NYC 3 жыл бұрын
What was also proven here was the 30+ year old MK2 can easily keep up and match the performance of a fresh out the box MK7. The hinge holders on the MK2 are also removable with 2 small screws to achieve the flush look to the mixer!
@davidsmisc1351
@davidsmisc1351 Жыл бұрын
Yep. When these MK7s came out I assumed they’d essentially end the used MK2 market. But, no, in many ways MK2s are still the ones to own. I used to snap up any beat up examples I saw going cheap and strip them down, re-grease and oil them, replace any worn parts and they’d be as good as factory fresh again. Don’t make much money going this-just love these decks so much it’s fun to give them a whole new life, especially with the rise of DVS giving them a whole new purpose
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 9 күн бұрын
Mk7 is bether than old Mk2 refurbifed..
@rodrigoms75
@rodrigoms75 4 жыл бұрын
the team that led this tt project in the past were really in love of what they created. I’m 44 y and still dream to have a pair of this.
@ajohnstitch
@ajohnstitch 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think back in the 70s Technics would realize they have created the most legendary iconic turntable. For the home to the clubs basic over engineered. This has been the footprint for all other decks cdj's midi controllers for years after.
@MrAndyBassline
@MrAndyBassline 4 жыл бұрын
There is only 1 turntable :D
@cun7us
@cun7us 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was a "happy accident" which made them a lot of money. However, because it was a near perfect product, there was no need for people to buy anything new from them providing their originals still work. So business wise, it wasn't the best model but for the consumer it was great.
@ลุงปิแอร์
@ลุงปิแอร์ 11 ай бұрын
They did, since développement of this turntable costed >1 million US$ (seventies value of this currency)
@eltucamote3903
@eltucamote3903 Ай бұрын
Facts!!
@costabravaguy
@costabravaguy Жыл бұрын
I am buying a 1200 mk7 next week - this review has been very useful - Thanks guys
@djkit
@djkit Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Matt, thank you, it's nice to have a positive comment on this video! 😂
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
MK7 is great turntable ..coreless direect drive motor is bettter than MK2
@bumpyjason
@bumpyjason Ай бұрын
Yeah I’m getting a pair of silver 1200 mk7
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 29 күн бұрын
I've heard, as some others, that the mk7 are crap. I'm not so sure... How is it?
@UNPAVEDMusic
@UNPAVEDMusic 6 күн бұрын
@@nedim_guitar keep in mind. This channel is to promote products that they sell, and they only sell the new one. Kind of a conflict of interest there most channels that are just reviewing them say the same thing. The old one is the OG and built like a tank. The new one is cheap.
@matteomelfa
@matteomelfa Жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues with feedback/resonance on the mk7? None seems to deal with this aspect which is the very important I’d say. It would be great to have some side by side test with gain levels and so on. I’d love to get Mk7 but still not sure as reviews are a bit discordants yet.
@chadpeery2930
@chadpeery2930 4 жыл бұрын
I own both and they are both great....i have retired my mk2's for now due to parts getting harder to find ....but w the technics you will always be getting a quality product its all i have used for 27 years
@djbhe
@djbhe 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my pair of 1200MK2's 27 years ago 1993 and they still look and play like new and I have never had a problem or had them serviced. I paid $750 for the pair.
@McRizzle23
@McRizzle23 3 жыл бұрын
Even electronic Componsbts on the board can be replaced with generic parts are long as the specs match. Apart from the motor control IC chip that is but it's rare for them to let go
@projekt679
@projekt679 Жыл бұрын
Your RCA cables will go before the rest of the M2. They’re tanks
@michaelfreeman272
@michaelfreeman272 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The weight difference is 70's tech vs 2019 tech. It says on the Technics product page that there is a mixture of composite materials in the deck that actually makes it more vibration proof even though its lighter. The pop-up light. I wonder if its on a rubber base so that it does not snap off if knocked hard ? Hence the wobble ? The light on the 1210 Mk2 always looked a bit out of place to me, I prefer the new one.
@jeremymurphy6095
@jeremymurphy6095 Жыл бұрын
the MK2 target light is a joke......and has made me enough money.
@TheTomonion
@TheTomonion 3 жыл бұрын
Just sold my MK2s. 20 years of abuse and still worked a treat they just looked a little bashed up and needed a service. I have purchased the MK7s and not regretting it. FYI - The target pops up and pushes down on the MK7. I think its a cool feature and definitely not a monstrosity if you push it down. The only thing I wish it had was a green light at centre / middle pitch. The MK2s pitch was green when it was at a neutral pitch. The build quality on the MK7 is beautiful and the all black tone arm and shell looks so sexy. Great video just wanted to note the target light pushes in. Happy mixing!
@hesayshesay8839
@hesayshesay8839 3 жыл бұрын
Nice mate, just ordered a pair myself coming from a different brand, seeing a lot of negativity online though!
@TheTomonion
@TheTomonion 3 жыл бұрын
@@hesayshesay8839 You won't regret it! I love them.
@lordeuronymous
@lordeuronymous 3 жыл бұрын
@@hesayshesay8839 I use a mk7 for hifi use and don’t regret it at all. I have a mk2 as well. Love the mk7.
@Eyeballpaul84
@Eyeballpaul84 3 жыл бұрын
@@hesayshesay8839 oh no 😢 I feel for you
@lordeuronymous
@lordeuronymous 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eyeballpaul84 Just Technics lies because his whole business is restoring the old models. He even bashed the mk5g.
@mongojoe21
@mongojoe21 4 жыл бұрын
The mk7 can play at 78 and reverse play by setting the switches under the platter. You can also adjust the brake and torque the same way
@mongojoe21
@mongojoe21 4 жыл бұрын
michael dent For real? Damn, when I worked in sales I had to know every single thing about the product I was selling. Man, I could have told you every single feature on every home appliance in that store without batting an eyelash.
@mongojoe21
@mongojoe21 4 жыл бұрын
michael dent not to mention, the fact that reverse play, 78 RPM speed, torque/break control, and light color change are all adjustable with the dip switches right under the platter was one of their biggest advertising points at CES 2019. How could someone sell these and not know that haha?
@TheFalko66
@TheFalko66 4 жыл бұрын
@@mongojoe21 … so at this point I can stop watchin this guys ;)
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 4 жыл бұрын
​@michael dent we did, but we omitted that info as 78rpm is not a standard format in today's club environment, nor is 78rpm a go-to pressed format for vinyl and dubplates (for clubland at least) in the 21st century ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@panamaJ
@panamaJ 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a DJ for 30 yrs and never had to play a 78 or a record in reverse! 🤔
@deepvibez
@deepvibez Жыл бұрын
yea wicky wicky, scratch n cut, but how well does the pitch fader hold a long mix riding a beatmach?
@tonesbones502
@tonesbones502 11 ай бұрын
Bought a new Mk7 and very happy with it. Quite surprising to see how passionate many commentors are, some people are talking it down without ever using one.
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
MK7 Iis great turntable ...i have pair 1200 MK7
@hkp30sk31
@hkp30sk31 2 жыл бұрын
I mix and scratch on a pair of MK3. I am currently trying to decide between buying a GR for listening or going big and getting a G
@colinmcdonagh4705
@colinmcdonagh4705 4 жыл бұрын
just took apart may old mk2 and cleaned them......have to say the build quality is unreal...military grade....surface mount components easy to service...last a life time
@colinmcdonagh4705
@colinmcdonagh4705 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinbennitt835 correction through hole 👍
@maxivinyl2010
@maxivinyl2010 4 жыл бұрын
I love vinyl and your t-shirt 😎. My technics SL 1200 are 30 years old and still like new .
@IceColdRydah
@IceColdRydah 4 ай бұрын
What is a difference between 1210 and 1200?
@maxivinyl2010
@maxivinyl2010 4 ай бұрын
@@IceColdRydah Hello . 1200 => Grey 1210 => black 😉
@craigyp6667
@craigyp6667 3 жыл бұрын
I've just got a pair of mk2's for £500 got lucky really good condition I sold my 1200's when I was young and honestly i regretted as soon as the guy took them the mk2's are the dogs bollox great video
@Sairamark
@Sairamark 3 жыл бұрын
happend with me the same, now im hunting a pair of mk2 or mk5
@Eyeballpaul84
@Eyeballpaul84 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sairamark any joy
@DjPhaseFour
@DjPhaseFour 4 жыл бұрын
The coffin with my mk5s will be under my coffin when I'm buried.
@naleenperera1969
@naleenperera1969 4 жыл бұрын
Why Your Propose To Buried Your MK5s With Your Coffin ? In Vain I Propose You To Offer To Some One Who Interest To Use It.
@Cam-gk9ms
@Cam-gk9ms 3 жыл бұрын
@@naleenperera1969 at the end of me is the end of my journey in looking for vinyls far and wide just to bring home to play on my 1210's.. I wouldn't mind being buried with my tables lol
@MrDarrenmountford
@MrDarrenmountford 3 жыл бұрын
And when archaeologists dig you up in the future,they will still work lol
@djfaddaheventgroup2218
@djfaddaheventgroup2218 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaahahaha
@teamloony
@teamloony 3 жыл бұрын
My 50th coming up in a few months, a pair of these MK7’s are on my wish list.
@djkit
@djkit 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you get them!
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
MK7 all the way ...
@jamesjackson2998
@jamesjackson2998 Жыл бұрын
I have recently upgraded from the mk3d to the mk7. Although i do still prefer the pop up light from the mk3d, one thing worth mentioning is that the mk7 uses LED, so im guessing they will last longer? And they are slightly brighter i think.
@oldstyleanalog6459
@oldstyleanalog6459 Жыл бұрын
U made the biggest error by getting mk 7.I guess u love ur l.e.d.light.cheeply made and a lighter turntable.
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound Жыл бұрын
What's the difference on the inside to make it much lighter than the M K2
@ShonKhan86
@ShonKhan86 3 ай бұрын
Great videos guys! 👏🏼
@turfoid7899
@turfoid7899 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of times ive accident,y knocked the on off knob on the sl1200s, lol i waslucky enough to own, unbox a brand new pair factory fresh in my life, and mixed on them for 30 years. 1 of the other reasons us OGs dont want a new pair, is because we know they have been battle tested, and longevity. Part of the success of the technics turntables, was the fact they made them TOO GOOD. So good, they never broke, and only needed minor service. Unfortunatey. In 2010. Tue CDJ took over sales, and slowly killed off technics turntables. It sucks Technics decided to release the mk7 instead of making og decks! P.s. 17:09 good djs dont share needles
@DJJ.Mckay72
@DJJ.Mckay72 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of that track he was playing when testing out the turntables? I been asking around and no one knows it! I recorded it on my phone. Awesome track!!! Please let me know if you know, thanks!
@DJJ.Mckay72
@DJJ.Mckay72 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks! Now i'm finally getting some where. Do you know the name of the remix he was playing? I like that remix a lot, but don't know the name of it to try to track it down. I'm thinking it came out around 2013. Thanks for the helpful info!!!
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently had my 1210s serviced. Still going strong
@djkit
@djkit 3 жыл бұрын
Good man!
@BF4pawntard
@BF4pawntard 3 жыл бұрын
Got a pair of 1210’s and considered buying the mk7’s and they feel like the 1210’s but the build quality and electronics are not in the same level as the 1210’s . I have had them 20 years and I have no doubt I’ll have them forever . The old story about parts getting rare is mute as there are refurb shops in the states making parts if needed , mine have never been serviced and feel like they did as new . They do not make electronic items to last anymore and the best electronics are made in Japan . The mk7 made in malaysia. Nuff said
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Techics mk7 ,Matsuhita electronic Panasonic
@themanwhocan1000
@themanwhocan1000 4 жыл бұрын
The build quality of hifi and turntables was more superior in the 70/80s
@naleenperera1969
@naleenperera1969 4 жыл бұрын
In The 1970 ~ 1980, The Golden Era Of The Audio Industry On The Planet Earth..........That's Why Critical Audio Music Listeners Using Vintage Audio Gears.
@garryburns0178
@garryburns0178 4 жыл бұрын
Watching the Video on a MK2 platter was almost exactly the same as watching it on a mk 7 platter. Ensuring not having to turn phone round and round during video. Haha. 😆
@Klynch111
@Klynch111 2 жыл бұрын
My dad has a mark 2 since the 90s and it's still going strong
@djkit
@djkit 2 жыл бұрын
Tell him to keep good care of it!
@RefactoringRyan
@RefactoringRyan 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated video, thanks for putting this together guys.
@moneymagnampo3355
@moneymagnampo3355 Жыл бұрын
I have both. I also have the Rev7. Love them all. I had my RCA and ground wire replaced on my MK2’s and my wife took apart my tonearm Base and cleaned it up and greased it. Good thing there’s a guy in my area that can fix just about anything on the original 1200’s. As for my MK7’s, I just wanted new ones. If you have the money buy what you want.
@matteomelfa
@matteomelfa Жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues with feedback/resonance on the mk7?
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
M3d 1200sl, prefer MK7 - pich control is great..
@davidwilliam9056
@davidwilliam9056 10 ай бұрын
😊 fantastic ! A real Technics fan here ✨✨🎧🎊✨✨still have my { SL1200 Mk2 Silver } years and going strong!!! but ~ after this review it’s time for a Technics Mk7 ? The….. light & weight of deck wud bother me 😮 but it’s the real deal of jocking !!!!!! We’re all in “TECHNICS” club. November 2023. Definitely 💯 great 👍 review guys & great scrating.
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 4 жыл бұрын
For 78rpm, try turning on the switches under the platter. Those can also enable reverse playback FWIW.
@jasoneden3515
@jasoneden3515 3 жыл бұрын
Yes :)
@Tandelicious
@Tandelicious 4 жыл бұрын
Slight correct, the Mk7 can be switched to enable 78rpm using the dip switches under the platter. Then you can press both 45 and 33 buttons to get 78.
@jenshartmann384
@jenshartmann384 4 жыл бұрын
But For what...????..nobody has got records running at 78rpm.😂😂😂
@jenshartmann384
@jenshartmann384 2 жыл бұрын
@Ölcrem Drecrahn ok. Iknow those records....but I hardly believe that anyone plays their shellac records on a Technics 1210🙄
@Ziggy_v2
@Ziggy_v2 4 жыл бұрын
Same story - I owned a pair of MK2s in the 90s, had kids sold them kicking myself. Eventually replaced them with the PLX1000- it took me a while to get used to the higher torque and digital pitch but now I'm good with them - I don't need to spend $2k on a new pair of MK7s.
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
PLX-1000s are incredible turntables!
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
mixed on plx1000 they are performance drops & scratching turntables !!! if you compare your mixing to your mk2s, I bet your mixing is lot tighter on them and longer transitions , your never going to get MK2 pitch performance from pioneers , it's digital step sequence pitch !!! designed for dvs not real vinyl
@Ziggy_v2
@Ziggy_v2 4 жыл бұрын
@@FSwiftDJ I've never tested them side by side. But I'm sure you are correct. I've been able to mix just fine on vinyl with the plx1000s - don't really notice it. All new turntables from now on will have digital pitch faders - even the new Technics MK7s have a digital pitch fader. it's something I've just accepted.
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ziggy_v2 the technics Mk7 slider is unique , it's A/D pitch !!! digital controller PCB and Analog fader slider, it's not the same , pioneers plx are handpin motors, exact same turntable as reloops & denons
@thevinylshack75
@thevinylshack75 3 жыл бұрын
@@FSwiftDJ I have a new set of PLX1000s. I hate them for mixing. Absolute rubbish
@dc110770
@dc110770 3 жыл бұрын
After selling mine 15 years ago, I now have the money to buy some back. I loved the MK2 but they are expensive. For not much more I can get MK7...?
@McRizzle23
@McRizzle23 3 жыл бұрын
If your just a casual / home dj then yeah why not. We really don't know how long the Mk7 will last for compared to the mk2. Yiu buy mk2 today and it will definitely be working in 10years time. Mk7... Who knows
@pauldagger8302
@pauldagger8302 3 жыл бұрын
@@McRizzle23 out of interest, how long do you keep your cars, TVs, Sofas, beds etc etc. If it doesn’t last 10 years who gives a F. My cars cost 20k plus and don’t last half that long. And for the record, people have been saying since the dawn of time; ‘how long will a turntable last’ for EVERY deck that’s come out since Technics 1210 (mostly hangpin) guess what; they are all still going!
@lordeuronymous
@lordeuronymous 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauldagger8302 Even the cheap Crosley players from 10 years ago still go strong. It’s just the older generation crying that they made a few changes.
@jamielovell4253
@jamielovell4253 Жыл бұрын
I've used the legendary mk2s, had to buy the stanton s150s 12 years ago when technics discontinued the 1200s. Theyve been tanks at 16kgs each and were a great price but still want to get some technics, the mk2s are old now are parts are running low, plus dead spot in the pitch etc. Looking at the mk7s just because I'd rather get new than 20 year old decks for cosmetic reasons and warranty. I mix real dnb records and dvs with a xone 92 mixer. What to get? 2s or 7s
@abumc5104
@abumc5104 Жыл бұрын
@Jamie Lovell, i watched all sorts of videos about the SL1200's technics before & after buying a pair of 2nd hand mkII. i'd recommend made in japan, because they are 'HAND MADE' - go with the sl1210gr or sl1210g !!! money comes & goes and backwards too \°°/ IMHO
@Jean-LouisMayans
@Jean-LouisMayans 4 жыл бұрын
Tired to find a Mint MKII turntable? Go and buy the MK7 with no doubt, is a beast. Got a pair!💥
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Using a pair of MK7s for almost 2 year can honestly say that mixing ånd beat matching is a bliss with these..Pich control is very accurate ..
@Dbulkss
@Dbulkss 4 ай бұрын
No issue with bass feedback? Precision of the pitch control is consistent? No issues with drag or speeding up?
@Frankie_Fish
@Frankie_Fish 4 жыл бұрын
These guys haven't read the manual. Under the platter are dipswitches where you can set different functions. (easily accessible through the two holes in the platter, or by removing the entire platter) Functions like: The startup torque (4 different torque settings) and brake (4 different brake settings), the LED color. (the classic red or blue for all LED's except the pop-up tracklight) But also the function of the combined 33-45 buttons. You have two choises of what those buttons pressed together will do: Eighter raise the rpm to 78, or function as a reverse button.
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frankey, this was literally a plug and play comparison out of the box! Great that the MK7 has got that capability, it makes it even more of a fantastic turntable!
@renerite3834
@renerite3834 18 күн бұрын
Ive played on MK2, Mk5 and Mk7. I have found the feedback worse on the MK7 in very loud conditions. The MK5 had the least amount of feedback, so if that's very important to you make your choice accordingly. I have also found a significant sound quality improvement with each newer model. I absolutely love my MK7 Lamborghini edition.
@MakingMadBeats
@MakingMadBeats 3 жыл бұрын
What' s the name of the track that uses the sample as Big Puns "Still Not A Player", please? THX
@DJJ.Mckay72
@DJJ.Mckay72 3 жыл бұрын
Having the same issue trying to figure out that track. Awesome track! Recorded it on my phone and been asking around and no one knows it, ugh!
@thehometreestem1802
@thehometreestem1802 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJJ.Mckay72 Da original is a 1979 classic called 'A Little Bit Of Love' by Brenda Russell, nothin beats having da originals n playin them back-back in appreciation.
@ParityError0110
@ParityError0110 7 ай бұрын
Nice technical review. Thanks.
@WyeExplorer
@WyeExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
That was the ultimate review to. Maan, me and my twin brother smashed up our 1210's way back like we were doing a who job. Things in life were a mess. But for the years we had them we had some great times. If you wanna find em there in a skip somewhere in the UK. Loved watching this. Nice guys to. Mark
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mark! Great comments, big up!
@WyeExplorer
@WyeExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
@@djkit A pleasure. I'm writing about those years now. Did some great parties called Transition on the border of Wales and England 1990-93. Great memories.
@scotty20040
@scotty20040 2 жыл бұрын
Still got my mark 2’s, 1994 I bought them when I was 14yr. They are in my loft. Still the only way I could dj, CDJ’s in the 90’s were too much money and wouldn’t know where to start with digital system. How much do mk 2’s go for nowadays, in case I need the cash?
@djkit
@djkit 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh how times have changed! Now vinyl is much more expensive!
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Every turntable is best than static Pioneer CDJ jog dial ..
@djhaloeight
@djhaloeight 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve yet to get my hands on a MK7, but from what I can see online, they look cheaper, they’re lighter, they may have a resonance problem, the pop-up light isn’t smoothly damped, it pops up fast and cheap-like, the tonearm section has some ‘wiggle’ to it from the base, etc. I bought my pair of 1200MK2s in 2005 and I’m never gonna get rid of them. They’re still like new..despite me dragging them to all sorts of parties when I was younger 😂. They’re safe in flight cases at home now. Frankie Bones even played on them awhile back and tagged both of them up 😆😆. You can’t beat the feel of proper MK2/MK5 analog pitch. I’ll have to reserve final judgement on the MK7s until I get some mixing and blending time on them.
@daddychunk
@daddychunk 4 жыл бұрын
djhaloeight , there shit!!! I was so upset at how cheap and shitty they feel compared to an original mk2. Don’t even think of downgrading, I sold mine after 2 months and lost a lot of money, I now have two GR’s which are the true replacement to the mk2........but I’m still not happy ⁉️ guys an girls if you have a lovely pair of 1210 mk2/5 keep them!! 👍
@daman7129
@daman7129 4 жыл бұрын
@@daddychunk why aren't you happy about the gr? Digital pitch?
@daddychunk
@daddychunk 4 жыл бұрын
daman 71 no the digital pitch is fine👍 it still does have that “nothing point at the very end, but not a problem. They are beautifully built! They do sound better than original mk2 but not by a huge margin. The feet are more wobbly, but that’s for feedback, and there not as bad as some have said! But !! I was disappointed with the wobble.! They don’t stop like the original mk2!!! There slower, that’s not a problem mixing, I know but when I’m flicking through records, I want it to stop dead !!! Like the original. This new expensive new motor design I think was because of time code users (hifi/DJ) they were aiming for perfection! To eliminate “clogging” which no one has heard or accounted?? Maybe time code purists did? Overall they are beautiful definitely not worth the price!! I’m 44 and know my shit, anyone who wants a Technics look for second hand mk3!!!! The best deck I have used “performance wise” was Stanton ST150! 🙏
@argee-s3y
@argee-s3y Жыл бұрын
@@daddychunkso i should look for mk3?
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound Жыл бұрын
My main issue is the weight you really need a solid heavy turntable and the light weight MK7 really really throws me off because I really want a technique but don't want to spend $4000 for the G.
@freecanadaland
@freecanadaland 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the SL-1200MK7 vs SL-1210MK7 and are theses still Made in Japan?
@thedjguru
@thedjguru 4 жыл бұрын
Outside of Europe, Technics chose to call it the SL1200, in Europe its the 1210 - Dumb AF if you ask me.
@eltruheyo
@eltruheyo 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedjguru So no difference in the machine, just the name difference of where you live?
@icinfin117
@icinfin117 3 жыл бұрын
MK7 are not made in Japan.
@klokettte
@klokettte 5 ай бұрын
1200 silver 1210 Black thats it.
@Unknown_Artist2.7182
@Unknown_Artist2.7182 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of GRs and they’re fine for mixing on. The Mk2 was a hifi table when it first came out. The build quality is far better than what you get on a MK7. You get what you pay for.
@mäffbeats
@mäffbeats 2 жыл бұрын
i mean the red light and reliable pitch correction is what in the end made it to be the iconic dj turntable it is. it even firstly made it possible to really synch two kind of tracks because of these functions
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
just technics has the best review he tells you what's what with the technics sl1210 Mk7 , it has platter issues , grounding and the pitch is not accurate on 7-8% it's known to technics now, they are the best digital pitch turntables out there, they look great but I'm sorry your not highlighting the issues with them
@joedjsymphony
@joedjsymphony 4 жыл бұрын
Jay is the boyo of Technics
@megacrab
@megacrab 4 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right! The MK7s have a lot of issues, not to mention feedback problems...
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks FSSwift, this was literally a plug and play comparison out of the box! Great that the MK7 has got that capability, it makes it even more of a fantastic turntable!
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@djkit no worries sorry was only pointing out , you guys have great channel , but I think Panasonic technics need to update the issues , the potential is there but it remains to be seen if djs or technics will ever discover it
@thenow5559
@thenow5559 4 жыл бұрын
@@FSwiftDJ how about GR models do they also have issues?
@MrFARTSANDWICH
@MrFARTSANDWICH 4 жыл бұрын
Do a shot every time one of these guys says so, and a bong hit every time they say yeah.
@MakingMadBeats
@MakingMadBeats 3 жыл бұрын
😄👍
@MrGlere
@MrGlere 3 ай бұрын
Great video!
@djkit
@djkit 3 ай бұрын
@@MrGlere thank you!
@drummergurlxoxo
@drummergurlxoxo 4 ай бұрын
No matter the gear , the user has to have skill. I’ve seen amazing DJs work w beat up Stanton’s. All skill!
@LVZ87
@LVZ87 8 ай бұрын
I have a pair of MK2's that need a lil love. I'm looking to sell them and need a honest opinion on what I should let them go for and a selling location. I live in Ontario..
@panamaJ
@panamaJ 4 жыл бұрын
The classic SL1200/1210 is the Rolex watch of turntables. In this bullshit world on constant upgrading why would you need to? I bought mine second hand when I was 18. Played literally hundreds of raves, parties etc. carried them, bumped them. I did have them in flight cases but they still look great and work perfectly. I’m 46 now! All I’ve ever done is replace the RCA cables and carts.
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear mate, you're one of the lucky ones!
@NiiOnLood
@NiiOnLood 20 күн бұрын
Rolex is mechanical and not very accurate. It is expensive and luxurious. Is SL-1200 expensive or luxurious in turntable world? No. I'm not saying it isn't a good rock solid turntable, it really is indeed.
@mariusvanwitzenburg
@mariusvanwitzenburg 2 жыл бұрын
The weight difference is the way how the driver is build and it has a lighter power supply. I personally use them in a case so that wouldn't be a problem. It actually makes it a bit easier for travel. One thing I am going to customise is the bottom ABS cover. Going to coat it with a rubber layer to isolate it a little bit more.
@ZvonerirBoban
@ZvonerirBoban 9 ай бұрын
Direct drive motor on mk 7 is bether than MK2
@thedjshow
@thedjshow 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work guys!
@johnbravo7542
@johnbravo7542 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy is damn good at what he does
@justanotherguyfromthenorth5791
@justanotherguyfromthenorth5791 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the dip switches underneath the platter. One can adjust the break and torque, colour of the LEDs and even 78 Rpm!
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is a terrible thing!
@deepvibez
@deepvibez Жыл бұрын
great video review, thanks
@djkit
@djkit 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bearded_wolverine3503
@bearded_wolverine3503 10 ай бұрын
I have to say, my 30 year old MKII is still running like a top. In near mint condition and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Aside from some very light cosmetic scratches on the top side of the plinth, my MKII is in pristine condition. Let's not look over the fact that servicing a MKII is quite easy to do or have done. I just serviced my spindle, removed the whole thing, tore down the thrust plate, cleaned and oiled it and put it back in. I'll be good for a another 2000 hours. The MKII are the workhorse of any of the 1200 series.
@carlocinelli6814
@carlocinelli6814 3 жыл бұрын
The comparison must be made with the SL1210m5g model ( year 2004) not 1200-10 mk2 years 1979 then let's see who is better
@sawyerthereal
@sawyerthereal 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a comparison between the new Mk7 and the Denon V12. And tell me which feel better made.
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Technics MK7 .Direct drive coreless motor ..
@billscott6819
@billscott6819 2 жыл бұрын
I have my mk2s on my desk right here. Got them on my 21st bday in 1993 at a place in Boston that sold appliances. Yellow pages find lol.
@djkit
@djkit 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you get them serviced regularly ! 😍
@ericlloyd7981
@ericlloyd7981 2 жыл бұрын
I only got a pair of MK2 1200's since I got into mixing on Pioneer CDJ's a few years ago and if anyone said I wasn't a real DJ with those then I would unveil these and start mixing just as well.
@djkit
@djkit 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that people say that about CDJ DJs!
@Friend.from.school
@Friend.from.school 3 жыл бұрын
I learnt something today
@TheAnunnaki-NYC
@TheAnunnaki-NYC 3 жыл бұрын
Although I’m happy Technics brought back the 1200 range. I still prefer the original MK2 model’s cause I’m just to use to the feel of those and also I prefer the build quality of the MK2. I just prefer the nice silver buttons and the chrome tone arm, silver strobe light housing and counter weight with the back rubber grip. Even the little silver ring at the top of the feets on the MK2. The thing I’m not big is the giant cut out that is on the back side panel of the unit. Looks ugly and similar to the super OEM units. If the detachable cable was designed like the MK4 (Japan only) design. Then it would have been perfect. I just like the filled out back side of the original MK series. I would think that has to be part of the reason the newer MK series are more lighter. Also I prefer the analog QUARTZ locked pitch system than the newer digital system and of course the all metal silver 45 adapter and I’m glad they touched on the difference on the pop up target light which is clearly a more superior build quality on the older MK series. Although I do prefer the newer ultra white LED light they use now. In conclusion I would say the MK7 is more closely comparable to the MK3D model with the pushed in power switch and spare head shell holder and the pitch reset button and notch less “0” point on the pitch slider.
@djsubculture2111
@djsubculture2111 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Technics will never bring back the analog pitch adjust.
@agnieszkanika4993
@agnieszkanika4993 Жыл бұрын
What with Feedback ?
@mixit313
@mixit313 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 1210MK7, 1200MK2, 1210MK2, 1200MD3, AT-LP1240, and RP7000 and I find the MK7 to be the most inferior of the bunch. They feel light and toy-like.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKWnn2uai797frM yep!
@lp6132
@lp6132 2 жыл бұрын
What are they like to mix on though ?
@TJ-nr9cg
@TJ-nr9cg 2 жыл бұрын
Got a 1210 mk2, late 70s in almost brand new condition for sale. Pics and video available. Will go below eBay prices.
@MichalGolata
@MichalGolata 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still got it ?
@TJ-nr9cg
@TJ-nr9cg 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichalGolata no. Sold it guy
@MichalGolata
@MichalGolata 2 жыл бұрын
@@TJ-nr9cg No worries looking for decent mk2 or m5g
@nomel-pm7eh
@nomel-pm7eh 4 жыл бұрын
Had my 1210mk2 for 25 years
@johnheron8198
@johnheron8198 4 жыл бұрын
nomel 1210 21 for me!
@johnscardy
@johnscardy 4 жыл бұрын
20 years and not one single problem
@Anonymous74GR
@Anonymous74GR 2 жыл бұрын
It makes a difference and none of you have looked for it yet I know it very well If you put the needle on the disc and turn up the volume you will hear distortion from the speakers in a separate different channel try it do the Technics is the best test overtakes and the Pioneer
@whistleblower7078
@whistleblower7078 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody commenting how mk2s only had +8 pitch. No they don’t, we’ve been pitching them up to +16 since 1982... 5 seconds with a screwdriver is all it takes..
@stevenmcguinness4751
@stevenmcguinness4751 4 жыл бұрын
Whistle Blower Yep, remove the platter and turn the screws
@andrewwhale78
@andrewwhale78 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know a guide for that?
@whistleblower7078
@whistleblower7078 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Brisby take off the platter then remove the plastic cover underneath ( 3 screws if memory serves?) On the motherboard underneath you'll see a small rotary dial (either blue or silver) which is marked 'pitch' Gently turn it clockwise till it stops with a Phillips screwdriver.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
@@whistleblower7078 I've had Mk2's M3d's and Mk5's, and none of them ever went to +16 maxed out. About + or - 13% is the most you will get/ Saying that, not a single digital pitch has ever come close to the accuracy of a standard analogue Technics pitch, and when you widen the pitch range they lose accuracy because they are designed for 8%.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
Instead of using a battered old Mk2, you should have borrowed a serviced one from Jay at Just Technics, at least it would have been a fairer comparison.
@djkit
@djkit Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
@@djkit Good to see the later versions (of the Mk7) have cured the dead spot in the pitch between 7 and 8 % though, it shows the company do listen and take notice of consumers.
@Djpaullavell
@Djpaullavell 4 жыл бұрын
wiggles the platter "as you can see, little movement" - waa? that platter was all over the place!
@mongojoe21
@mongojoe21 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been seeing a lot of people talking shit about the MK7, well I’ve had one for about 7 months now with no issues. However, the first two they sent me did have issues, the third time was the charm, and I’ll be the first to say that that’s some epic bullshit. But now that I have one that’s problem free, I love it, more then any of the mk2-5s I’ve used. Yes, the digital pitch has a dead spot at 6 percent or something, but that can be fixed my doubling the speed and using 3 instead. Also, I’m not a DJ, mine is primarily for listening, technics wow and flutter specs are class leading, and with an ortofon 2m blue and technics auxiliary weight, it sounds pretty amazing.
@johnk2260
@johnk2260 4 жыл бұрын
Use them in a loud environment and then you’ll see why. For at home they’re great, that’s it.
@Marc1nSZN
@Marc1nSZN 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnk2260 So tell us, why? Did you played on those in a loud environment? How they were behaved? Any vidoes, or just comment bullshit repeated after another randoms on youtube? Please stop repeat nonsense.
@leyland9999
@leyland9999 4 жыл бұрын
Looked at from above I noticed the distance of the tone arm towards the platter differs and it seems the angle of the cartridge differs as well. The Mk.7 clearly is not built like the original no matter how it performs as a DJ-tool. Greetings from Hekelingen, Holland
@NiiOnLood
@NiiOnLood 11 күн бұрын
You didn't account the parallax. Of course they differ in that view. You need to look and compare them separately and you would find they are the same. If you could compare them with printed arc protractor designed specifically for SL-1200 I'm sure they will match exactly.
@JayWerx
@JayWerx 4 жыл бұрын
Walked into Guitar Center with the intention of buying a pair of MK7s. After I wiggled the pop up light I walked out. No way was I paying $1000 a peice for those. $700 I might have still copped.
@pauljamplay513
@pauljamplay513 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but is wrong what you say about pinch position on Quartz Light. The poit O, 3.3, etc its for see if your pitch botton is working write.
@moscasucio1686
@moscasucio1686 4 жыл бұрын
MK7's are not built like the 1200 series. The are like another version of hanpins. The platter wobbles, pitch problems, poor isolation. I rather buy a used 1200 or a pair of reloop 8000's.
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
We thought they were pretty similar!
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
No the pitch is actually fantastic believe it or not if they fix the 7-8% spot !! it's very unique pitch that's why many djs like it today , it's a digital controller and analog slider , the fader is analog ( not step sequence )
@gavindavie1792
@gavindavie1792 4 жыл бұрын
You can change to 78rpm if you want by lifting the platter and changing dip switch to on position then pressing both 33 and 45 down at the same time. ✌️
@sawyerthereal
@sawyerthereal 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, whoever says this is as good or better than the o.g's clearly doesn't know much about this.
@breakz187
@breakz187 4 жыл бұрын
Its cheap shit and as always people cant be honest - they have to toe some line. Sheep. Fuck humans.
@admiralhipowa7158
@admiralhipowa7158 4 жыл бұрын
Theirs a few reviews on the MK7s on You Tube but the best review is by Just Technics, over 2 hours with a breakdown of the deck. By the way the MK2 arm will not fit on a MK7. The biggest let down of the MK7 is the feedback issue as their is no rubber bottom like the MK2, the MK7 has a plate inside the body which adds additional weight. I own a powerful sound system for playing out therefore the MK2 will always be my preferred deck as I don’t need feedback, reggae music is bass heavy so feedback is a massive issue. The MK7 looks cheap to me & I don’t think it will last as long as the original Technics, time will tell.
@tomsii7946
@tomsii7946 4 жыл бұрын
Silly question but why does the earthing cable not solve the feedback? What is causing it?
@FSwiftDJ
@FSwiftDJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomsii7946 it's the feet probably , tone arm another !!! you play jungle dnb with em , that bass will vibrate on them !
@josephfranco1495
@josephfranco1495 Жыл бұрын
Torque specs & comparison?
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Technics mk7 1,6 to 1,8 platter torque ...
@aguycalledrae218
@aguycalledrae218 3 жыл бұрын
Just a side note, pioneer own technics and has done for. If I remember rightly 30 odd years..
@ХвърчилХвърчилков
@ХвърчилХвърчилков 10 ай бұрын
MK7 1200 sl silver - briliant turntable .Pich control is accurate.Great for deep house mixing.Bether than mk3d
@Valkemist
@Valkemist 4 жыл бұрын
I would like a comparison between "old" mk2 and sl1210GR, because same weight and both made in japan, while mk7 is 9,6 kg. and made in Malaysia....(price apart)
@djkit
@djkit 4 жыл бұрын
We'll put it on the to do list. However, a lot of people say the GR isn't fit for DJing, only as a hifi turntable!
@Valkemist
@Valkemist 4 жыл бұрын
@@djkit thanks, I read something but I don't understand why, the construction is better in the GR (vs mk7), and I don't think the different weight of the plate can influence, the torque is just higher, and more on this, other brands like Pioneer or Stanton have an even greater torque, only the price remains, but if one is willing to spend for the highest quality and 'made in Japan', why not? In my opinion....
@jayrodriguez5093
@jayrodriguez5093 4 жыл бұрын
@@djkit Actually, the mk2 weren't designed with DJs in mind, it is in fact a hi-fi turntable that it's really good for DJing
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 3 жыл бұрын
Just gonna go on the record here (lul) and say sure we omitted reviewing the 78rpm speed because who in the comment section has decided to blast a bunch of 78s in the club? Thought not. As you were, soldier.
@dukromeo
@dukromeo 2 жыл бұрын
i enjoy the bit about the newer cheap and not so sturdy light and how many times you play with the antique wearing it out... lol try it a few more times. it's cool easy to repair and tons of parts amirite?
@TTVEaGMXde
@TTVEaGMXde 11 ай бұрын
Made in Malaysia, but at least without the antique AN6675 (Motor Drive IC with cast heat sink).😉
@mrhorizon8933
@mrhorizon8933 4 жыл бұрын
I admire your scratching , but mate your on DVS timecode , your not mixing proppa vinyl or testing the mixing side of the DJ turntable , they all perform brilliant with performance scratching , but it's the mixing with real vinyl where the Technics sl1210 Mk2, Mk5 wins always !!! The technics mk7 is very nice deck , it has the best digital pitch out there it's near original technics , but it's let down by faults on the platter, grounding , pitch 7% 8% not accurate on the Led strobe , but it is million times better then Plx 1000 turntable , more accurate digital pitch for starters
@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84
@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84 4 жыл бұрын
"the best digital pitch out there" I had the impression that digital pitch (alone) is the same standard on all new high end dj turntables.
@mrhorizon8933
@mrhorizon8933 4 жыл бұрын
@@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84 No , what Technics designed in the Mk7 was very unique pitch slider that was near sl1200 , it's A/D Pitch Slider !!! the top ( slider ) is analog ( fine tune like a sl1200 ) the cuicuit ( Controller chip ) digital ( step system ) that works with the cog motor , that's why all djs like the pitch on this deck !!!! no new turntable has anything like it including pioneer plx1000, but they failed to calibrate the plus 7-8 % spot on controller ( digital ) if they can fix this plus the isolation feedback etc , then this deck is a complete winner and would put plx1000 or Denon , reloop in the shade in vinyl mixing terms, but they might not update this you never know with panasonic technics
@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84
@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrhorizon8933 That's very interesting about the A/D pitch slider, so your saying there is a varying degree of quality when it comes to digital pitch control. If Technics can fix the calibration +7-8% mark & any potential problem with feedback I'd be more keen to check out the newer Technics. Thanks for the detailed info Mr Horizon!
@mrhorizon8933
@mrhorizon8933 4 жыл бұрын
@@diggemz90sdanceradiotapess84 Yes Mk7 has A/D pitch slider !!! Analog slider movements on top , the chip controller is binary steps 1-8 !!! pioneer plx1000 pitch slider is all digital ( slider & Controller ) so it be steps ( so no fine pitch tuning ) hanpin turntable motors ( laser ) not magnet Quartz direct drive !! in my opinion your better off with set of second hand Technics SL1200 or 1210 MK2 or Mk5 cheaper , slightly better pitch as it's fully Analog !! also has the quartz direct motor system ( magnet ) and better robust tone arm and feet
@backndadaze1990
@backndadaze1990 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting into vinyl dj,I'm between the plx 1000 which I heard and read was a little better than the technics mk7...dont knowwgich to get...I had a mk2 like 30 years ago but never got around in getting a DJ set up...big time regret...I'm 48 years old now and I want to start playing my vinyl and making this my hobbie
@dtwistrewind7361
@dtwistrewind7361 2 жыл бұрын
Analogue pitch over the digital pitch all day long for beat mixing, just my preference.
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
Pich fader on Mk7 is better than Mk2 ..Tracks just stay locked for more than a minute!
@dtwistrewind7361
@dtwistrewind7361 8 ай бұрын
​@@JohnLenin-y1wI've tried both and if the analogue pitch is calibrated correctly I've found it personally to be rock solid compared to the digital pitches, maybe I've just been lucky
@Sadiquecat
@Sadiquecat 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really cool vid and im surprised :D owning the rp 7000mk2 and playing a few times on techics 1200mk2 i must say there’s something about technics that feel just right. Happy to hear the mk7 are just better.
@noobslayerr9732
@noobslayerr9732 4 жыл бұрын
You know what feels right vs the reloop? The fact you can blend like king if cool without the pitch accuracy after 8secs be all over the place. The onky table ive found being in line with the pitch acc/y of techies are the plx1000s
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 3 жыл бұрын
Mk7 sucks: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKWnn2uai797frM
@DJGeorgeDisco
@DJGeorgeDisco Жыл бұрын
@@noobslayerr9732 yes yes, the PLX-1000 pitch sliders are very nice indeed.
@JohnLenin-y1w
@JohnLenin-y1w 8 ай бұрын
just liisten music ..@@DJGeorgeDisco
@NativesMC
@NativesMC 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I was hoping you all would have removed the platters, I hear they are quite different. Malaysia vs. Japan made seems to be the biggest difference.
@djkit
@djkit 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sawyerthereal
@sawyerthereal 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but the new one does NOT feel as good quality and strong as the original one. It does NOT feels like tank. Just by tapping it with your finger is more than enough to notice. As a Technics guy, this is way over priced for what it offers. Not bad, but not as good as some want to make it out to be.
@DJGeorgeDisco
@DJGeorgeDisco Жыл бұрын
The reason why the mk2 had -4 dB compared to the mk7 was because your EQ wasn't flat on the right channel. The bass was cut by roughly 4 dB. You can't fight physics. The mk7 doesn't isolate as well or better than the mk2.
@LincolnRon
@LincolnRon 4 жыл бұрын
6:43 Not just die hard Technics fans. Anybody (Vinyl hi-fi enthusiast or vinyl DJ.) who plays actual vinyl instead of just time code vinyl.
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@D_2_da_K87
@D_2_da_K87 4 жыл бұрын
It actually shocks me how many people don't know what the strobe dots are for.
@fbgggodleetalent0850
@fbgggodleetalent0850 3 жыл бұрын
Tell us
@tintintb1980
@tintintb1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@fbgggodleetalent0850 Did you watch the video??
@dmgsoultogetherness6667
@dmgsoultogetherness6667 Жыл бұрын
96'? still got mine and still love them mk7 looks good too
@kborn1239
@kborn1239 4 жыл бұрын
What is the track that he drops at 23:40?
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 4 жыл бұрын
Jimi Needles - Hit Me ;-)
@mr.mr.3662
@mr.mr.3662 11 ай бұрын
I have the 1200MK2 will never get rid of them
@paulholla
@paulholla 4 жыл бұрын
As if he didn't know about the light!!
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