JYP New GG Unveiled / INCELS spam IZ*ONE Chaeyeon / Kpop's WORST Label Closes [DK NEWS]

JYP Entertainment unveils a new girl group, sorta... incels? spam IZ*One member Chaeyeon's Instagram and Kpop's worst label TS Entertainment closes down finally...
Buy David's T-shirt : bit.ly/davidsh...
SUPPORT US
Patreon: / dkdktv
PayPal: www.paypal.me/...
Become a member: bit.ly/DKDKTVme...
(Exclusive membership badges and content)
Music from the show is available on share.epidemics...
BUSINESS INQUIRIES - [e-mail]
FOLLOW DKDKTV
IG - / dkdktv
Twitter - / dkdktv92
TikTok - / dkdktv
Twitch - / dkdktv_official
FOLLOW DANNY @gyumstagram
IG - / gyumstagram
Twitter - / gyumstagram
FOLLOW DAVID @justdavid_92
IG - / justdavid_92
Twitter - / justdavid_92

[@DKDKTV]

Our honest thoughts on BTS - PTD and... more talk of incels in Korea : bit.ly/aftershow0713 Get David's T-Shirt today!!! Only $5 shipping to USA : bit.ly/davidshirt0713

[@DKDKTV]

@@xxxxbi Yes we do :) We ship everywhere

[@mindymsquare7683]

What time does Patreon after show go on every week? Is there a replay? I am from east coast US, not sure the time would work?

[@jennylee423]

@@mindymsquare7683 They go live every week at 9pm EST. And all previous aftershows are available to watch as well

[@DKDKTV]

@@mindymsquare7683 10AM KST Every Tuesday (sometimes we change times, but 95% of the time it's that time.) The replays are available as soon as we finish the live!

[@zarapedro4619]

Danny Kim please share the brand name of your eye glass please. Pretty please I have been looking for that type of frame. I would really appreciate it thank u.

[@fardea]

I am so happy TS finally shut down, so many people suffered because of them and they didn't give a fu*k. When I was a fan of BAP when they were active I was feeling so bad for them.. I'm sure memebers are very happy about this.

[@chacha_zemisei]

I hope the members can move on and keep going with their careers, whatever their choices are I'm here secretly wishing BYG will make his own company and recruit the former members to form a new group under better treatment

[@equivoxentertainment1850]

You know that Jongup of B.A.P literally just released a new song a few days back, you should have a listen and support them because they're still active! :)

[@cinnamonroll9240]

Bro I'm so hyped there shutting down

[@LovelyKissess]

@@equivoxentertainment1850 So did Zelo

[@DKDKTV]

There was so much wasted potential on BAP. Hopefully they can have good solo careers ahead of them :)

[@drewcuevas9937]

the outrage over chaeyeon’s post is the dumbest thing i’ve ever seen

[@denniskung3301]

Chaeyeon's post has nothing to with feminism or hate. Ridiculous. Outrage is the result of cancel culture and lack of self-shame. If you are not happy about your life, make the change to yourself and don't blame others. Equality of opportunity > Equality of outcome. Media uses words like "diversity" and "equity" without defining them.

[@DKDKTV]

Indeed.

[@sweetiekancoral]

TS Gone is some of the best Justice to ever happen in The Kpop Industry I hope all the Artists can now positively move forward to brighter futures

[@erickafayefabian]

YES! 👿👿👿👿

[@박다니-u5o]

@itsnaralyn they'll leave and find a decent agency

[@JJWhy]

@@박다니-u5o Thank you! qwp

[@caspernilsson2940]

Korean guys ego is the most fragile thing I've ever experienced

[@Kharmatos13]

and the extremist feminist groups attacking people for no reason? which is what this issue is about.

[@WeAreSMC96]

@@Kharmatos13the assumption that theyre 'attacking people for no reason' is probably the most blatant self report ever lol

[@gabrielmeth4844]

@@cleoz_ which is not the people being discussed. The open disregard of anything that affects men is glaring, and tells a lot about you.

[@naz_7007]

I just find it funny how Instagram removed Chaeyeon's story (which was completely innocent) so quickly, yet a day later, they allowed so many racist comments and hate speech to be thrown around after the Euro final. There are so many other more important issues which Instagram takes no action on even when people report. They really pick and choose what to allow which is just frustrating.

[@BluesRiffage]

Zuckerberg is a spiritual incel.

[@santohiji6117]

its become issue depending on who wrote it, how many read it, and how big the polemic it causes. i can write the same thing and nobody gonna give a fk about it even instagram itself. so its not that its funny, its actually normal internet stuff and its viral effect thing.

[@naz_7007]

@@santohiji6117 Ok, and don't you see the racist accounts and comments on Instagram that got hundreds and thousands of likes yesterday? It's not "normal" that certain problematic things get taken down but other ones do not, especially when one is explicit hate and the other is a non-ill-intended post that was intentionally misinterpreted by a handful of people.

[@muqithz]

@@santohiji6117 the story isn't that deep, people just take it too seriously ig

[@chaizan9733]

@@naz_7007 that's because for Instagram to take a post down, they need people reporting it in masses. Which happened with the girl's post and not with the eurocopa finals. Those eurocopa comments were made by football fans themselves, and that collective just simply doesn't care and wouldn't go as far as reporting an offensive post. It's just not mindset of the football community.

[@backtomimsey]

It's frustrating that people don't know there are many different types of feminism. In the west there were different waves that emerged throughout history. I know an English teacher in S.Korea who had a student say he hates feminists. This boy was only 9 years old. :(

[@ludvig3242]

These groups like Womad or Megalian are the furthest thing from feminism, they're truly horrible and poison the well for actual feminism. It's really sad.

[@moon_wei]

I think the feminists he hate is the radical ones you know the typical man haters

[@yukigiro17]

In my country it's the same. They hate feminism but they don't even know that it is. It's really stupid that male netizens are giving attention to the more extremist groups and looking for an excuse to shame all types of feminism together.

[@ahhh4618]

@@yukigiro17 they don’t shame all feminists. If you listened and research they shame the radical feminist that literally contradict all the good things the feminist movement is used for. These radical feminist in Korea are disgusting. I’m a feminist myself , but there is a clear difference between a radical feminist and a feminist

[@michelleikoma2953]

There is only one feminism, but some are willing to go hard in the fight for equal rights and sacrifice themselves to do so for the rest of us. I definitely find it easier to speak up now that I am older because I have less to lose. The fact that some women do not say anything tells you how oppressed they really are.

[@UnknownPerson-kb8fo]

Everytime I hear about Korea's gender conflict 🤦‍♀️do y'all not get tired smh

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Stupid than america's gun control debate

[@chaizan9733]

Wow, that's so thoughtful of you to disregard an entire social conflict that is affecting the nation both economically and politically, just because it doesn't affect you personally. You sure are a piece of trash. South Korea has more to it than your kpop idols, show some respect.

[@anyone1111]

@@chaizan9733 Yeah it’s different here in the US. Here it’s viewed as equality between both genders. People are able to be feminist and it isn’t a problem here. So it’s interesting and incredibly sad how it is in different places. The problem is serious there It seems compared to the us. Whereas here it isn’t a huge problem. Although the picture seemed innocent in my opinion. But nobody really asked for it lmao.

[@astouaiisha]

for real

[@binney3880]

@@chaizan9733 Bro i dont she was talking abt kpop idols at all, so i dont see why u would bring them up and it is normal for ppl to see these kinda conflicts as weird in a different setting.. so don't drag others idols everywhere u get a chance to :)

[@yukigiro17]

"When you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression."

[@Yaravg]

That ts ent doesn't exist anymore is one of the best (kpop) news this year. They had it coming and it's even a miracle how they held out so long. When B.A.P was still active as a group I was waiting until the day their contracts ended. I knew that would mean they would disband, but I rather had them be free from that awful company. I'm happy the other artists are now also free and wish them the best of luck with their futures.

[@xxkanezxx6903]

lol i'm sorry but they aren't going away, they'll come back and open up under a different name, that's how con/scam artist or corporations work, why stop when you're still able to make lots of $$$ especially when you're selling a product in high demand. TS is also in a special situation most con artist dream of in reaching which is when people know your corporation is a bad actor but still manage to generate revenue from the people and having more people(trainees) desperate enough to take a chance with your company. TS entertainment is being sued so you change your company name and reorganize and then no more law sue, yes the management that used to be TS will be going to court but not their new company, its a whole new thing now give them a 1-3 years they'll be back

[@DKDKTV]

Honestly it amazes me how they even managed to live this long too. Like who funds this company? Who wants to work there?

[@naz_7007]

The Chaeyeon situation really ticked me off. Chaeyeon is literally such a sweetie who never had any controversies in the past. Her name being smeared because of these insecure incels is just unfair, but I'm glad most people can recognize the ridiculousness of this. Anyways, go watch and support Chaeyeon as she participates in Mnet's dance survival show, Street Woman Fighter! There's so many talented female dancers there it's really entertaining.

[@grayft]

Ok ☺️❤️

[@vaanshichauhan9868]

Oh wow, that show is totally going all way high. Taeyong and BoA ae judges, Daniel as MC and now this. Its going to be amazing

[@raven-kn6lv]

Hope she bounces back and flourish even more and gain more fans from this stupid drama. Thank you to the incels who promoted her.

[@Maria-ys2tt]

Lee Jun-Seok: “I’m not an anti feminist nor a misogynistic but we should basically remove every single positive policy/program designed to achieve gender equality in society”. Honestly I’m so mad and tired. I wonder when these men will understand how hard it is to live as women. 10:24 ‘Radical feminism is as toxic as terrorism’ are you SERIOUS?! And this is the youngest elected candidate?!? Honestly people should read more books and articles cause not many actually know the differences between actual liberal/radical feminism (guess what? None of them is about hating men). One last comment: why are women the only one considered extremists when claiming their rights but these men are just considered reasonable by the public opinion? And Danny, women don’t ‘feel’ left out by society, they are: it’s a fact. There are plenty of studies/policy papers on this issue.

[@vilesleftnostril.4704]

agreed

[@annelies1479]

Preach

[@chaizan9733]

Well if those movements are being funded by tax money, and are not doing any revolutionary changes in the system then they should indeed be removed. We feminists can go on strikes and use social media to educate people on feminism, we don't need to waste tax money that could surely be redirected into building new schools, bettering the health care system, supporting new infrastructures that would increase the economic value of some districts. Not to mention that all that money could be used to rise the pensions for the elderly and just overall better the living conditions in rural areas of South Korea. All those are wiser ways to distribute the tax money other than funding a social movement. And I'm talking from my experience living in a European country as well.

[@skaicachapero1448]

@@chaizan9733 This is such a bad take. We can use these funding from tax as equity to help build equality for every area where women are left out from. Meaning ALL areas. This doesn’t take away from the importance of other issues, but money is needed to create a more equal society in a capitalist/world economy. The fact that there are fundings is an accomplishment in itself... it takes the right people to use it towards creating real change and advocacy. Which means the general public, or feminists, should continue to push for change and most importantly pressure officials to use them in the right areas. It is never easy to do that especially in a society that is pretty conservative.

[@justk1k049]

TS(hit) treated BAP so badly they weren't allowed to meet their families even if there was an emergency, they were forced to perform and leave hospital bed after having injury, bap members had to pay their own hospital bills and even pay for their flights. At one point Yongguk asked fans to stop buying their albums cuz it was only profiting the company. During their last year of contract Zelo was the first one to be free from that prison and he went to their concert (which was the next day of his concert expiration ig) to perform for his fans with his members as a free artist, after that it was Yongguk who was free and later the remaining members in 2018. BAP were concept kings they were great in everything, they could've been biggest K-pop group if only they won their lawsuit and weren't sent on long hiatus. They have said that they haven't disbanded (even though news articles say so but they have only left company and then they all had their enlistments) so most likely there will be collabs (Jongup already did one with Yongguk ) and probably reunion /comeback as whole. They're doing good individually tho Himchan did get in scandal and as for others Zelo and Jongup recently came back with their solo, Yongguk is producing music, Youngjae is working in drama and Daehyun is in army rn.

[@SarahZi1998]

Jongup collaborated with Yongguk

[@justk1k049]

@@SarahZi1998 thanks i will edit that!

[@shahirashamshulanuar3511]

If I remember clearly, Yongguk left the company first, followed by Zelo. Yongguk left earlier because he signed the contract with Ts first before other members. So his contract expired early.

[@DKDKTV]

Wow I didn't know Yongguk said to stop buying albums. It's insane how a company can sabotage their own artist's careers.

[@justk1k049]

@@shahirashamshulanuar3511 Right!! I could only find that they left around the same time but u wasn't sure if BYG left before or after him cuz I remembered about the concert very well and fans were very happy for Zelo thanks for correcting me tho!

[@SarahZi1998]

TS finally being shut down is the greatest news this year. I’m surprised how long they were able to stay a float after their money maker left the company. I hope some company can pick up TRCNG because they are still very young and very talented

[@lingth]

I feel this feminst movement is probably due to a Long Oppressed feeling by females by a Maie chavuinst society of Korea, for decades, females faced lower salary then their male counterparts, they get fired from their jobs if they get pregant and take maternity leaves, some of them get asked by their superiors to do things like pouring them drinks or to go get a deal from a customer because the custome likes to be attended by a pretty lady. Also the past 2 years, incidents like males planting hidden camera in female toilets, the SNS messages of male celebs like JJY and others also irated females into thinking males are preverts and trash, and how males in power tend to bully females in lower positions like a director and a rookie actresses for example, and sometimes into sexual relationships. i am not saying females bullying males is correcr but maybe long periods of such feeling and the rise of the "WE dun need MALES to survive" is fueling the feminsm, and more and more females who step into the workforce and succeed are thinking i dun need to get married and be a guy's child bearing machine, when i can afford my own house, support myself. some kpop songs like Miss A's "I dont need a Man", or Ailee's "Dont Touch Me" are some examples that tell a man to back off, i dun need you, i think more and more ladies in power feel that they hate males and all mans are like wolves etc.

[@nevaladder]

You had me until the last part. 😂

[@zeno-two0255]

Agreed

[@irinabuji]

It's sad to see this whole misconception about feminism. Not only in South Korea, but around the globe. It's like a forbidden word and every time you say you are a feminist you have to explain that you're not a man hater. Why are we naming men that hate women as misogynists, but we do not call women that hate men misandrists. We call them feminists. It always baffles me. The words have the same etymology, they are practically mirroring each other. It's like someone actively tries to undermine the works and achievements of actual feminists. This whole misconceptions gives the ideea that feminism is a women's issue, not concerning men at all. "They are passive bystanders of women's attempts to gain more power than them in society." Which is not the case at all. It shouldn't be a competition, it should be a collaboration. An attempt to question the values that are dictated by patriarchy, which affect everyone, of all gender and sexes. Yes, even the men. The social system in place expects the men to be the main provider of the household, to show little emotions, to be physically strong etc. Men holding characteristics that are viewed as traditional feminine are stigmatized. We are ok with females dressing masculine, but we feel discomfort with males wearing dresses or using make-up. It is frown upon if men take paternity leave. Men have to be good at sports, they can't play "like a girl". Men are expected to pay for dates. In a patriarchal society sexual assault and domestic violence towards men are viewed as laughable. The system in place is not only restrictive towards women, but also to men. The end goal is not to replace the patriarchal society with one that is matriarchal. It is to create a society that is based on partnership, where all gender, sexes, races etc. have the same social, economic, and political rights. The word here is "choice". We should express our gender how we want, without having to suffer from social stigma. We should have the same opportunities for our career/life path, and not be criticized for some choices that are viewed as un-problematic for the other gender. Also, feminism does not criticizes women that want and chose to be stay-at-home moms, or couples that understand and consensually chose to engage in traditional roles, because it is what they like and what they want for themselves.

[@annet.423]

👏👏👏

[@harlee2191]

Glad women are speaking up and speaking out. 👏👏👏😌

[@yankalatas4998]

We tend to severly underestimate the inequality between men and women (and other sexual minorities) here is just a small example: Women don't get hired simply bc they have a longer pregnancy leave. A man can get married, have a kid, but chances are he will be back in 2-3 weeks tops. That's not the case for a woman. Employers think a woman will quit her job anyway after getting pregnant bc she has to take care of the baby plus her pregnancy leave has to be longer... So they prefer an employee they *think* they can keep for longer. So what's the solution? Giving the father and the mother equal time to spend with their newborn, demolishing one of the silent incentives companies have for hiring male workers and also acknowledging that men are humans with feelings and they become fathers just as much as women become mothers. They deserve that time too. But what will politicians tell you? That you need to work as much as a man does to get that position, when you just can't. Wheter it's education, opportunities or employment women are at a clear disadvantage at every step, so the solution can never be "less". No men should settle for this either, but they are encouraged to accept this instead of asking for more from policy makers. Sad.

[@DearlyBeloved652]

These guy are making that gesture about themselves voluntarily by getting mad at things that have nothing to do with that. I was so confused what was wrong with the pic. I never would have thought it was about that on my own.

[@another.library]

When my friends ask me "would you ever consider living in korea" I always say no because of the gender issues. I honestly see south korea so behind in this topic.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

I wish more people were like u because they “wanna meet BTS” is so stupid

[@sincerelysof]

JYP is ready to debut another girl group and YG still has to debut their girl group.👀

[@iamnotjack.whydidichange]

Quantity is not quality and honestly its not like the world one more group. They would be better off focusing on what they already have. I hate when new groups comes and the older ones are put aside like trash

[@ronazan87]

YG should really focus on their current jewel which is BP! they need to give them more creative freedoms, single releases and more group albums! BP is already on that level of success. JYP is overdoing it. it's too early. they should focus on their current successful group as well. Twice, itzy.

[@iamnotjack.whydidichange]

@@ronazan87 agreed. There is still a lot to explore with BP, they still feel fresh and new tbh. And YG needs to focus on Treasure too. I often even forget they exist. I like winner and ikon, but the truth is YG does not have a strong boy group since BigBang and to be honest Im way more excited about BigBang comeback than their younger boy groups or even new upcoming groups. And yeah JYP is doing way too much and SM needs to wake up

[@아멜리에니글레]

@@iamnotjack.whydidichange blackpink are already senior of more than 5 years it about time to have a new girl group

[@iamnotjack.whydidichange]

@@아멜리에니글레 so what? How is 5 years a long time? Why is there need of another group? Kpop has hundreds of groups. Its so saturated already. It only makes sense for a new group, when people start to feel tired of the older ones, which is not the case with BP. They have 5 years, but not that many songs. It still feels like theres a lot to do with them. People are still not tired of 3rd generation groups. And honestly there is only 3 4th generation groups that actually add something to the game. Most of them are not that great taking in account they have been around since 2017

[@rmj9693]

Nooo!! Poor Chaeyeon!!! Now she has to deal with this BS? That wasn't even Chaeyeon's hand right? Either way they are reading way too into it. I would naturally make that hand gesture if I wanted to pretend I was holding a tiny person.

[@zoezoe4041]

BAP was one of the best and ts did them sooo dirty. I'm glad they all left and are doing their stuff. Byg just got back from the military and is wildin already and moon jongup also just came out with an album so please support the bap members

[@angelbiscuits]

that hand gesture is so common though lol it’s kinda dumb to assume every 🤏 is used as a radfem dog whistle. it’s sad that feminism has been equated with radfems in Korea, but the same has also happened in the US and the west. so hopefully the name will be cleared (to some extent) in the near future.

[@Marte0107]

Imagine certain men being so threatened by feminism they report an Lee Chayeon’s Instagram story over THAT 😑 Edit: yes I watched the video. Different people/ groups interpret the symbol different ways. Am also a Chaeyeon ult so read about this elsewhere and fairly informed on this situation as it pertains to my queen lol 😂

[@brennathecatlover4360]

Apparently the hand sign she did is a logo for some radical feminist group in sk? I could be wrong

[@muqithz]

@@brennathecatlover4360 so what? the story isn't that deep, and the context is very clear, people just took it too seriously ig

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@muqithz I wasn’t trying to argue I’m just saying that’s what I heard

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@KenzyAli I didn’t know if that logo thing was true or not since I just heard about these radical groups

[@Kharmatos13]

it wasn't men being threatened by feminism, watch the actual video. it's the feminists trying to find something to fight about that isn't there and as a result chae's pic got taken down.

[@equivoxentertainment1850]

At least all the B.A.P members are still active. Jongup just released a new song a few days back and it already has nearly 300k views. Yongguk produced a song a week ago which has over 12 million views so they are doing well!

[@Max-st2mw]

i forreal eat burgers like this

[@Blue-wo1pu]

same. i've eaten sandwiches like tht before when i don't wanna wash my hands after.

[@abbyl4621]

So dumb. Her fingers were also extended and not curled up like the symbol. If they're gonna nitpick about stupid small stuff then I'll do the same

[@Max-st2mw]

i really like this conversation:3

[@channelxcaramelo]

The reason why men have to face all this expectations is *because* of the patriarchy like... "they feel left out", wow sorry, we have been in the left out club for thousands of years lol welcome

[@katara2021]

Its so fucking irritating. Like they've been running society for ages. Even now most countries politicians are overwhelmingly male. But they leave that part out when talking about all the problems they face. Like but who created those problems? Its the same as when men bitch about women not being part of wars (even though before drones, armies from both sides would usually rape and kidnap women) but won't mention that for most of human history it was men who made it illegal for women to join military.

[@channelxcaramelo]

@@katara2021 CAN YOU BELIEVE, that this all started because an idol posted an absolutely unrelated picture but incels HAD to make it about themselves, because they are pariahs of the society, the ones left out, discriminated for being a men in their 20🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Masculinity is so fragile and they try to blame US for the standards they created and imposed themselves stfu. I can't with these men.

[@Marte0107]

Anyway support Lee Chaeyeon in dance crew WANT in Street Woman Fighter on MNET because as she is genuinely one of the most kind, open idols out there with such a warm heart. Coming from a loving longtime WIZ*ONE

[@aiRbckwrds]

I got into Kpop because of B.A.P. and I felt angry towards the company because they were supposed to be there to support their artists and didn't. I truly believe that if B.A.P. were at a different company, they would still be around. I'm still following the individual members' activities and I'm happy that they can continue, but also sad that they aren't as popular as they used to be.

[@shastablue221]

Lol I must've been living under a rock .. I just learned about the finger action thing thru this video and I've been living here since 2010....

[@AmbiCahira]

BAP will always be super meaningful to me. When a friend introduced me to kpop she showed me Super Junior, Shinee, Girls Generation, Sistar and some others and the next day she links BAP Power and said "this is right up your alley" and I was so sold. It was the moment that truly made me kpop loyal and the song was a fresh release at the time as well. It was my first fresh kpop release song experience and it was unforgettable so I will never stop being upset that they couldn't shine brighter for longer. Their style and sound was so epic. I'm glad the company fell because they don't deserve to thrive.

[@lisreads4872]

I wish all the best to TRCNG and Sonamoo 🥲 Hope they’re all in a better place now.

[@hnnh711]

Well for chaeyong issue I believe those men just have fragile ego and since women aren’t there to boost them as they use to do before feminism ... well, now they describing the feminist fight as a threat cause the order started being established. idk just a thought 🤪

[@aldwinaraneta06]

This is so sad tbh. I feel like the context of feminism is not well delivered and taught to the general public hence the issue. Feminism, at core, is calling for offering the same opportunities as men -- therefore gender equality. :/

[@hnnh711]

@@aldwinaraneta06 yeah, sadly every new movement is seen as menace, no matter what is the purpose (as you mentioned : offering the same opportunities). Humans don’t like changes, even more if it shifts the power balance . Idk much about society in Korea,but I know it is very conservative and will try to suffocate the movement ( ex: Irene reading a book was met by a backlash for just reading . To me this is terrifying).

[@insomnia5050]

The more the peasants are arguing, the less they're looking to tear the castle walls down.

[@casualsuede]

What the new GG should include in their package is a ticket to an exclusive concert just for the early adopters.

[@shhhh5895]

They felt intimidated when B.A.P was there. Lol Kinda cool that their badass enough to have that affect. Tbh

[@itspattiiii3880]

I been a BAP fan since debut and seeing them being "abused" by this company still makes me sick to my stomach, not forget to mention the other artists signed under this shady agency...When will agencies finally understand that keeping your artists happy and healthy equals success for the long run....it still blows my mind...

[@jule9178]

I didn't even know that that hand gesture means something else than just 'something is small'... I do that all the time... Do I need to go over all my hand gestures now😅

[@sapiensno8billion]

next: the word "small" is prohibited

[@DKDKTV]

small people have feelings too

[@allex_jr8034]

The new JYP tactic probably fuels off of fomo, like you wonder what you would be missing if you didn’t get it. But Idk why people think it’s coy, it’s marketing not robbery, you can refuse to buy it and move on. Interested to see what they’ll be like, it feels too soon to debut another group!

[@jjthek]

So happy the TS label closed. I hope the artists can find somewhere else to go that treats them well as they deserve. I wish the artists the best.

[@Dontmindbb]

Ugh I miss BAP I wish I could see them perform again. I don’t even really see the individual members in anything. If anyone has seen them in individual things let me know

[@N.N010]

Daehyun is in the army, Youngjae has been in a drama and has another one coming out (Police University), Zelo is still releasing music, Jongup just released his mini album 'US' and the MV and Bang Yongguk got back from the army and produced songs for the new group JustB and will be featuring in Sleepy's new song. Follow them on IG and Twitter!

[@shahirashamshulanuar3511]

BAP as individual artists are pretty active. You just need to follow their IG/Twitter to be informed with their activities :)

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@N.N010 and himchan is on probation I believe ugh

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Ahem so may I ask why u don’t follow them on social media?!

[@doriannepontez9757]

I hope TS Entertainment at least compensated all the groups and artists they screwed over before closing. Such a terrible company.

[@SarahZi1998]

Trust me they won’t. With what money?

[@doriannepontez9757]

@@SarahZi1998 Damn, I feel bad for them.

[@raven-kn6lv]

If I was an idol from that company I don't even think I would associate myself with that company in all aspects. Even financially. I would be ssooo fed up with them😂😂. But yeah I hope they at least got their compensation

[@punspunspunspunspuns]

b.a.p and secret were my ult group:( and I was so hurt how they were treated I'm so glad there won't be any more groups from them

[@x381]

I have been waiting for TS to end for the past few years now

[@alisyaB2ST]

Imagine being a very popular grp, with so much potential ... but your career went completely downhill 1.5 yrs after ur debut cuz of ur company owns greed

[@anywherebuthere91]

There's a famous quote "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" Obviously feminist movements are different depending on the country and culture but I feel like the backlash is always similar. In the US too, there are men who try to lump women who want equality in with radical feminists. And as for radical feminism, there is a disproportional outrage towards it compared to the outrage men who don't want equality receive. I'm a progressive/leftist Christian and in my own social circles, feminism is still considered bad. The misogynist Christian leaders will *say* that feminists *all* want superiority, but if you question them, they ultimately reveal that they think equality is bad too, that what they really want is for the social order to stay as it is, or even regress. I feel like SK is going through this movement as well, and I think as time goes on, it will be revealed that some of these politicians and media personalities don't want equality, and are masking it as concern for a "radical" movement. That's not to say that radical movements don't exist, but that they are smaller compared to the women who want equality, and that radicals are a perfect cover to deny equality too.

[@aeternam3710]

That « blind package » thing is the perfect exemple of what « agency’s privilege » is, whoever you are, you gonna receive attention when you’ll debut just because you’re from a big agency. I’m not blaming the trainees tho, they probably worked really hard to get in one of those companies

[@ExploreAllThings_]

the big 3 privilege... kpop is not fun anymore, now mostly only look at the agency not see the quality of the group... even K-Pop songs now are not as good as in the K-pop 2nd generation.. it's been very unpleasant...

[@melaniegladson4610]

Wow thats crazy ! Very interesting I never knew this was a problem !

[@lingth]

i think its Blind Package of JYP is different from crowd funding, it can only work when you developed a BRAND reputation that you can be trusted to deliver quality contents and ppl trust your next girl group will be a success as long as you are producing it, it like how some ppl trust a luxury Brand like Chanel or whatever that when they hear they have a new product upcoming they placed an order for it without looking at it, because they know and trust the brand. Just as some celebs in Korea have a phrase "Trust and Listen" like Taeyeon and IU for example, you dun even need to hear their new songs, just the fact they are going to release a new album, can make Pre-order hits new record already before anyone hears a teaser or see anything.

[@hslpt3]

The thing is using 'brand reputation' argument only made their artistes sound like nothing more than manufactured products, nothing beyond it. of course, that's what idol industry is all about(but they don't need to say it out aloud) and with the recent kpop industry trying to push the image of idols as having more creative control etc., this is not aligned with that image kpop is trying to push, different idols at least would have different sounds and even talent levels even if they're from same agency so brand reputation is....kinda stupid. but...at the same time it will work. talents or qualities of the members or songs aside, JYP girlgroups are always popular with public so they had built this confidence...i guess this is where their brand reputation work....even with buying brands blindly, i find it stupid since even big brands would have bad designs...unless it's just buying for bragging rights, which i find cringe but i guess there are those people into it so yeah...still, this will work because even those who aren't interested would think of buying the album to make future profit, resell at higher price because it's 'limited edition'...not gonna lie now i feel tempted too but....nah...can't even afford to buy for all the groups i actually love. and if this marketing tactic is supported and worked....more agencies will follow trend in the future, this will be normalized, and there will be more possibilities for scam and qualities of groups/songs being downgraded because they're already sold anyway. JYP really ain't even hiding that they know they have company stans who would eat up whatever they serve, i guess the other big agencies will take serious note of this, since they too have those company stans(i mean, all agencies sort of have them, but the big ones have them in much bigger amounts naturally)

[@lingth]

@@hslpt3 it depends on your point, in the western "world" (not sure if its the right word), artistes like Rihana or Ariel, they are not manufactured or groomed, Rather than saying the agency Built them, its more like "I am talented and the agency is just supporting my career", hence there is less of a "DEBT between them and the agency" rather the agency is like a caretaker for them, providing them with manager,stylist and such.. support staff. which is why the STAR is the Person in Power, the managers are afraid of the star or listen to his/her bidding.. in Korea, the agency is more like a Insitution of Learning and School, they take in YOUNG, "sprouts" if you call it.. or unpolished gems, spend money on them to train them in vocals, dance, rap, foreign language, and acting even.. with each "course" they learn, their "contract" or debt.. INCREASES,.. a trainee can cost the agency $250,000 or more to groom.. which is why the agency is very strict and treats the trainees like their (in a negative term).. Farm animals? Pets? or Products? if they think the farm animals are not good enough, they CUT losses and kick them out before they waste too much time adn money on them. when the "products" debut, they have a limited time of 7 years to get back their capital sum, usually good agency can re-cope their capital in the first 2 or 3 years, which is why most idol groups have strict rules in the first 2 years or 3 years with little rest or vacations. After the agency turns profitable, they relax a bit and listen to the artise more, which is when the artiste's ROLE start to see a slight REVERSAL, where the agency takes in their ideas, the rules like no phones, or no going out, etc is relaxed after the 3rd or 4th year. (most of the time), for agencies where the group never makes a profit, like Fiestar, even at the 5th year or so, the members are still repaying the debt from debut. SM was probably one of the pioneer agency to follow a system to "manufacture" star or idols. from the trainees training to what they will wear, what their hair will be like, the trainees had no say in the early years, as they are nothing more than the agency's products, until the debt is paid and the ROLE is reversed, like in BoA or senior artistes then the agency LISTEN and let your DECISION take into priority. in Short, agencies like JYP, YG, SM and now maybe Big Hit have so much star power that they can annouce a "NEW upcoming boy or girl group", and you can see FANDOMS for them, when no one knows whose inside the group and what is the debut song or concept.. its like TAKE my Money, even though i dunnno what i am getting but if its YG it has to be GOOD. like their upcoming rumored girl group BABY MONSTERS, i am not surprised if there are more than 200k ppl willingly to drop money to buy their debut album without even know how big the group is or who is inside.

[@mixxyv6062]

What ? I even do that hand gesture in instagram too.. OMG

[@manie9639]

I will go to my grave holding a grudge against “the company that will not be named” cause they single handedly sabotaged one of the best boy groups of their generation. I will shout it from every rooftop for the rest of my life that “B.A.P. deserved better!”

[@yokonamigaara]

The reselling market for rare/out of print stuff is already kind of out of hand, and this blind package is surely going to attract scalpers who will buy it now to take advantage of genuine fans later down the line.

[@epiphadipity]

omg yes do an unboxing pls, I'm so curious at this album that is obviously targeting company stans lol

[@stuffno3058]

Even Chaeyeon was so confused with the post! I feel so bad for her. I was shocked that her post was deleted because of "harassment and bullying" when it wasn't that.

[@LovelyKissess]

TS entertainment is GONE? FINALLY. I do feel bad for Trcng now. Where are there? Tell them to join 10x entertainment 👍👍👍

[@klienart]

Screw TS, loved Secret and BAP- its such a shame

[@fessi]

Finally TS Ent is gone

[@natm8368]

The feminist issue is borderline ridiculous, so, woman don't have the right to express they're all for iquality after being oppressed for years, but a misogynist (even if it's media framed) is the most influential politician??? What the actual Fuck.... I didn't think at 28 y/o living in 2021 I'd be hearing this.

[@CB-dy1he]

The fact that these incels can get people's posts taken down, companies to change their advertisements and celebrities in hot water over nothing is sad to me. They have that much collective influence, but just use it to further trivialize the issues at hand. Instead of changing things for the better.

[@elisel.3981]

How insecure do you have to be, to feel threatened by such a small gesture. So funny

[@KyrieRuwachHosanna]

I am just wondering if the lack of auto subs is due to a setting. That is because DKDKTV's videos are the only ones I don't have the auto subs option for. But thanks for another good news update video. :)

[@Adonis-md5gq]

Danny looks so good on this video, love the shirt and glasses!

[@highheeledfagin]

Come on, don't be ridiculous. She was just making a perspective joke and people are hating on her because that's what they do to female idols. I love K-pop and support these incredibly talented artists but the industry and society of (sometimes violently) anti-female sentiment within the Idol system is horrifying as a foreigner. No wonder so many of these artists are utterly miserable because everything that they do is minutely scrutinised and used maliciously as a weapon against them. Adding a negative interpretation to something that has already been cleared up as innocent is just unnecessarily hurtful. Shame on you.

[@miss_jess]

👏👏👏

[@yoopark6965]

Atleast i can say yuna/yoona from nizi project will be one of the members of Jyp new gg

[@bbvistas7596]

Stuff like what TS Ent was doing was pretty common during Gen2.5. International GP fans complained and got attacked in return. Unfair events towards groups, individuals and conditions, frequent car accidents, girls passing out on stage. The Hallyu Wave went under. K-drama and International content creators carried the wave. K-pop was riding the flat line. K-pop groups were already going under from pruning for younger versions. But even more groups went under, new groups never debuted when i-fans 1M strong ghosted the industry...until BTS.

[@ExploreAllThings_]

so we can't make the gesture... wow, this is really dumb... Chaeyeon Fighting!!!!!

[@flipppbook]

11:19 meritocracy, mer-it-ock-rah-see (emphasis on 'ock' and slight emphasis on 'mer', same intonation as 'democracy' but just the word "merit" instead of "dem-")

[@flipppbook]

(when you smunch it all together and say it in my accent (middling north america) it comes out more 'meh-rih-(d)ock-ruh-see' with the t just barely pronounced, almost a d) :)

[@Bonobanos]

the Blind Package gimmick reminds me of singing competitions like the Voice or king of masked singer where jyp is hoping ppl are first impressed by their voices before their image

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

TS shutting down is the best news I’ve ever heard. Like, BYE!

[@em5522]

Trolls ironically validate their own insecurities by being so personally offended by this 🤏 when the post has nothing to do with men.

[@ni-kingtaehyunjkyoongs2758]

I'm not really a feminist but for me isn't it just like better treatment not as in treating people nicer but as in equal opportunity. Like not looking down on a woman and thinking she can't handle stress...etc. Of course there are limitations specially when it comes to physical strength but it's basically judging people by their capabilities not their gender. I think is probably also about female independence as opposed to be taken care of so like taking charge of your life and having the choice to do as you wish. At least that is what I always thought. Because even though I don't identify as a feminist problems like what is expected of me, how I'm treated and seen as a female really do affect me in my life.

[@michelleikoma2953]

It is not reverse discrimination if the equal rights of women have been oppressed. Just look at the number of women in middle to upper management positions, the wage discrepancy, the number of women in elected positions in all levels of government and so on. It irks me when men complain that feminists are overdoing it. However, demeaning men in the way men have traditionally demeaned women is not right. Check your assumptions, check your unconscious biases. Conservative patriarchal societies will of course be threatened by any challenge. Now, men are over-reacting.

[@loreleileong4071]

Comparing radical feminism (which is bad) to terrorism just show what a spoilt privileged life he had lived

[@bunnykara]

People shouldn’t get mad at feminists they didn’t become this “radical” out of thin air! Women been treated horribly in this conservative country by men for years so don’t blame the action blame who caused these type of actions

[@likhwezititus]

But sometimes us women blame men for everything. We have to take accountability at some point feminism becoming radical is the doing of woman tho💁🏾‍♀️

[@tanya1000]

Congrats on your comments, you are 2 wonderful human beings!!

[@littleclownfrosty]

BAP had the potential to get really big, Bang Yongguk had the potential to be a power producer but no, the lawsuit scandal and then the hiatus that followed it threw them back to square one and now they're individually trying to start back up from scratch. For anyone interested in supporting their newest releases: Moon Jong Up just released his song "US" kzbin.info/www/bejne/faengp-NbN6MhMU And rookie group Just B just debuted with a song produced by Bang Yongguk kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3XaYX6OltmCn68

[@jjthek]

I dont think id want to just get something blindly without knowing what im getting and actually hearing at least 1 single from an album. Yet, its kinda fun and interesting. Plus no one has ever done that before so i do also commend JYP for taking a bold step and doing something new that other companies are not doing.

[@kanishka6768]

I love when you play that background sound 🔊

[@Mad.E]

this is really off-topic, but while most companies are horrible, I actually wanna give a little shout-out to the company beat interactive cause while there have been mishaps and they have to work with a small budget, they actually showcase what a good relationship between artists, management and fandom can look like

[@Average_Kpopper_Mideko]

Finally, TS has shut down for good. Now, the artists are free from that horrid entertainment company.

[@constellation_koa2854]

This 🤏 thing is so embarrassing 😂😂 omg

[@its.errica]

✨Timestamps✨ 0:42 TS entertainment 5:31 IZ*ONE Chaeyeon’s post 18:06 JYP’s new GG

[@davs.ketchup]

That new JYP album is a smart buy imo. If it's really that limited and "special" it could rise in value by quite a bit regardless of what it contains. We already know that Kpop merch is extremely collectible and them being from a big 3 company from arguably the most successful girl group producer makes it that much more valuable.

[@yui7star]

Wow. Just wow. It's just getting ridiculous. What is their goal with this? It's such a "battle" of pettiness. I personally don't like both extreme sides of this gender battle. And involving innocent people like Chaeyeon is not doing them good. It just hinders the actual conversations that seem to be needed.

[@nerasomnia]

I remember writing a comment saying I wanted TS Entertainment to burn. I’m glad it worked out in my favor 😊

[@dewiayuritonga6588]

Why they're so insecure with the 'small' hand gesture...going national & into politics over hand-gesture....come on...women have been oppressed by patriachal tradition for centuries around the world and this hand gesture hit so hard?

[@kamekaze878]

JYP gonna hit us with the lootbox tech next.

[@mememoo3992]

Those "hand gesture" why...WHY!? Are your masculinity hurts just by that hand gesture?! Even if person didn't mean to do it in political or something meaning, and you still somehow connect it anyway!? Here it is 🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏🤏 Sometimes some man can't be understandable, especially in Asian country which is patrilineal. Btw, I am man

[@Khanquirat]

Jyp said stan a group even before their debut lol I am kind of excited to see the outcome for this strategy.

[@franklee538]

Reverse discrimination would be non discrimination…..because it’s either discriminatory or it’s not. It doesn’t go one way…

[@junipiro8387]

Maybe the JYP GG might be a group created from different members from groups….

[@shenawberquanrui]

I was thinking the same thing. But do you know what is the cost of it tho?? I will think of buying it if it’s not too pricey

[@sharanmen0n]

superm sh!t but under jyp with girls

[@kpopcougar6832]

Good, so long TS, they totally messed over the potential of BAP.

[@fremendune]

Company stan here :0 I'ma buy it. But the thing is, we all know who their top trainees are. And most of those girls are top tier. Apparently the group name is supposed to be Squ4d

[@jagpurple5470]

So it’s the not all men squad...not shocking

[@iselljams6468]

Chaeyeons story is so annoying because this happened to me too using instagram i get men take pride in their weenies but cmon now lmao

[@baggingbangtan3457]

TS is literally the definition of a gamgster company

[@meliodas2k612]

Wow the competition for Rookie of the year this year is hard YG is debuting a new girl group JYP is debuting a new GG CJ ENM Girls Planet 999 group I land season 2 group

[@N.N010]

I don't get how TS managed to run till now, should have closed down a lonng time ago. Glad B.A.P got to leave but hoping the best for Sonamoo and TRCNG.