DM&IR 227 Yellowstone type steam locomotive with wheels turning at the Lake Superior Railroad Museum

[@bcgrittner8076]

Back in 1991 a friend and I were in the cab of 227 when a museum docent named Doug Engebretsen joined us. He spent at least 45 minutes explaining every knob, every lever, and a fair bit of operating procedure on the 227. The 227 had been his locomotive back in the day. Doug has since passed away. And, on that day back in ‘91, I didn’t have my video camera. Anyway, that sure was a memorable day.

[@thedesertrailfan]

You were certainly lucky to get to meet someone like that.

[@amtrakdude432]

thats sad

[@GradyFamily-qn8pv]

I was at this museum yesterday it was very interesting but now it’s not a wave to start the demonstration it is now a button.But as a pretty avid train lover i thought it was pretty cool to be able to go inside some of the locomotives.The 227 definitely was my favorite locomotive there.

[@seanblanck819]

That is impressive that they have that locomotive sitting in such a fashion that the wheels, rods and linkage are free to spin.

[@thedesertrailfan]

They do it using a small motor on the other side of the locomotive to turn the wheels, and the locomotive actually sits just above the rails so it doesn’t move. There’s a video showing how it works on the museum’s KZbin channel.

[@morg52]

It would be better, in my opinion, if they had the action keep up with the sound effects.

[@ThePTBRULES]

@@morg52 Or they just slowed down the earlier sounds effect to make the rate of the turn, I'm sure it takes pretty big mother just to get those wheels turning like that.

[@MilePost106]

The Yellowstone steam locomotives are so under estimated. I have always liked them and the whistle.

[@jaedenlyons]

Aaah yes, my favorite steam locomotive of all time. the mighty Duluth Missabe and Iron Range baldwin mallet 2-8-8-4 No.227 Career: 1941 - 1960 Rest easy big girl!

[@amtrakdude432]

only 19 years

[@jaedenlyons]

@@amtrakdude432yes… but at least she is still around today to carry on the legacy of some of the most powerful steam locomotives in the Midwest United States!

[@angeloavanti2538]

the closeups let you see the 'rube goldberg' look of the drive rods, going in all different directions making motion happen. the engineering was and is astounding.

[@thedesertrailfan]

It’s certainly interesting to look at up close

[@mplsmark222]

This was some of the highest technology of the day. Achieved with compass, t-square and slide rules and genius level engineering . Now, our high tech is mostly on the microscopic or even nano level. No less impressive just very different.

[@nickpopovich1213]

Next to the 222 ,For me it was the most difficult engine to fire ,trying to maintain the water level in the general area,and then also maintaining the steam pressure, and this with super heated water injected. Worked on the iron range division ,late fifties.

[@darrelleaster5381]

Ok, that’s incredible. What was it like working on the lines?

[@jaedenlyons]

If that is so, then which of the Yellowstones if you can recall was one of the more easier ones to fire and maintain?

[@nickpopovich1213]

When I started as a fireman,after I was discharged from the Navy,in addition the railroad ,(yard only) was in the process of adopting a 5 and 2 schedule,not sure on this but I thing they like the road fireman were on a mileage system This opened up positions on the road,well the old road Engineers (some) went bananas. In the old days it took years to bid for a road fireman job. You can imagine,the first day with some of these old road engineers. Not to bore but. One never uttered a sound,and never even looked at me across the cab, and placed the forward reverse lever as far forward ,and the results ,he pulled my fire out the stack. That day happened to be in the 90sand humid-- at the end of our trip 15 hours and 59 minutes ,his only words to me ,”good trip” nothing else

[@thomasavensjr.2790]

What a fantastic piece of articulated steam power, I am glad to see that 3 of the DM&IR "Yellowstone" locomotives were preserved for public display.

[@nickpopovich1213]

I engineer that I worked for as a yard fireman,informed me that by placing a chicken in the forward piston housing ,it would be ready to eat within a few hours of yard work. True to his word ,it was done and delicious. Unfortunately,he attempted to do the same ,on one of our Mallets,the end results ,Black dust, he also tried to heat a can of beans ( one time) but forgot to place a small opening in the lid, although wrapped in waste,and placed in a crossing pipe in front of the boiler ,on my side of the cab ,it BLEW up with beans all over the cab . I’m sure he’s not with us ,God Bless!

[@thedesertrailfan]

I absolutely love the concept of using a steam locomotive to cook food. I doubt you could do it with any other type of locomotive, yet another advantage of steam power.

[@JRStudios7048]

i know right the wheels truning are awesome

[@Thomasthestreamliner]

That is insanely cool to see

[@thedesertrailfan]

It definitely is! It’s by far the best display of a non-operational locomotive I’ve seen.

[@Thomasthestreamliner]

@@thedesertrailfan same here, though I never seen it in person

[@chucksdesk]

Great display! They need to coordinate motion with chugging sound.

[@mechamax7919]

I feel when the Big Boy 4014 was visiting Duluth, I'd like to think it stopped by just to gloat to 227, like "You may be preserved, but I am still running!"

[@andypettit5869]

Perfect condition for a rebuild...

[@strasburgrailfan90]

That’s insane that they put motors in the wheel sets

[@JRStudios7048]

awesome hi 227!

[@thedesertrailfan]

Thank you! I also like 227. It’s cool how they turn the wheels without moving the locomotive.

[@mtfgamma6257]

would be neat if they could increase the speed to match the speed of the sounds.

[@Thomasfan239sucksLOL]

they cant, if they did the motor pulleys that make the wheels go would fly right off and the wheels might be damaged

[@leslie0965]

this things better be in the afterlife big time

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

I Love the 2-8-8-4 yellowstone would Number 225 be steamed again please.

[@ToothlessTheCreepydragon9]

I hope 227 and 225 steam for train rides at prescott arkansas cause prescott never had a steam engine for rides before they need 2 sheds and new coaches and new rails when it goes far the rails turns it back to the station i think it's gonna be a long ride and 225 would have a new SP 6 chime whistle and 227's original whistle

[@cmilburn26]

It bothers me that the Johnson bar is centered so the valves aren’t moving lol

[@mplsmark222]

The LSRM is an amazing place. I have always wondered where the funding comes from? They must have hundreds of millions dollars in value with all the equipment in their collection. Duluth is not that large of city…..

[@LNERMallard]

Much of their equipment was donated, including 227. The old Duluth Union Depot was just a perfect and convenient venue to build such an impressive museum, being that no major railroads were using it anymore by the early 1970's. They also have a very large team of volunteers to maintain their equipment, both static and operational.

[@nickpopovich1213]

If you happen to be around steam engines for any length of time,you’ll notice they are alive,unlike Diesel engines,if you mistreat them ,they appear to be a living being. Personally I had a notebook on each Mallet,the Yellowstone 222 and 227 ,did not like me. I tried everything , and we fought each other,on every trip not enough coal, to much coal ,not enough water,to much water.,,the coal wouldn’t ignite at the exact moment,and on it went

[@drrgperrin]

Wow! Great engine. Sad so sort an active working life.

[@wwtf7180]

It was put away in serviceable condition. Wouldn’t take much to put the pistons back in and give it a hydro and fire 🔥 it up for a joyride. That is if the cross compounds still stroke. Shhhh.

[@thedesertrailfan]

That would certainly be a sight to see.

[@davidney2412]

TRULY I TRULY EXTREMELY TRULY LOVE ARTICULATED STEAM LOCOMOTIVES . . . BUT . . . THEY HAVE 2 MISTAKES IN THEIR SET UP . 1. WHEN THAT STEAM STARTED MOVING WHEN IT WAS IN STEAM ( BOTH ) ( SETS ) OF ( DRIVING WHEELS ) ( WOULD START MOVING ) ( AT ) (( THE SAME TIME )) . . . (( NOT )) . . . ( THE FRONT SET ) THEN ( THE BACK SET ) . 2. THE CHUGGING SOUND IS (( NOT )) SOUNDING LIKE (( AN ARTICULATED STEAM LOCOMOTIVE )) .

[@MarkInLA]

Needs more sand !! It's slipping !!.... Too much closeups of the drivers..Camera needs to move vertically as well.... Show pilot/ cab/front/into cab/tender...

[@thedesertrailfan]

I focused on the moving drivers because it’s so unique to this display. Maybe I’ll make another video focusing on the rest of the locomotive if I ever go back to that museum.

[@vincentmckiernan4975]

A-Maze-ing!!!

[@pamvoreis5427]

It reminds me of the big boy.

[@CBQ-dp8ez]

DM&IR 227 and N&W 612

[@davidmiller3793]

Is this locomotive bigger than union pacific locomotive 4014? Can someone tell me

[@thedesertrailfan]

The DM&IR Yellowstones are about four feet shorter in length than the Union Pacific Big Boys.

[@Hawkers02]

Yeah. The big boy was also heavier at 600 tons

[@jaedenlyons]

However the DM&IR Yellowstones were more powerful than the Union Pacific Big Boys, with a tractive effort of 140,093 lbs while the Big Boys had 135,375 lbs of tractive effort.

[@Gdud2727]

Wow

[@BrunoWiebelt]

getting seasick

[@angeloavanti2538]

a real beast of burden.

[@organbuilder272]

Big boy is longer, larger, heavier, more powerful and.....it is fully operational not driven by electric motors while it sits on jacks. It is a good thing to know that this is preserved. The next job is get it trujuing again. Even if the laid tracls around the outskirts of the sity, it would be a smash hit.

[@09JDCTrainMan]

@@organbuilder272 The Big Boy is more powerful in drawbar horsepower, 6,290 compared to the Yellowstone's 6,250, so it's better for higher speed tonnage trains, but the Yellowstone has more tractive effort than the Big Boy, 140,093 lbf compared to the Big Boy's 135,375 lbf, so the Yellowstone can get a heavier train started and is less likely to stall on grades than the Big Boy.

[@leslie0965]

i want a railroad job all steam with jesus

[@jordanriley4510]

NEVER GiVE UP

[@thedesertrailfan]

Never give up what?