Back in 1991 a friend and I were in the cab of 227 when a museum docent named Doug Engebretsen joined us. He spent at least 45 minutes explaining every knob, every lever, and a fair bit of operating procedure on the 227. The 227 had been his locomotive back in the day. Doug has since passed away. And, on that day back in ‘91, I didn’t have my video camera. Anyway, that sure was a memorable day.
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
You were certainly lucky to get to meet someone like that.
@amtrakdude432 Жыл бұрын
thats sad
@GradyFamily-qn8pv3 ай бұрын
I was at this museum yesterday it was very interesting but now it’s not a wave to start the demonstration it is now a button.But as a pretty avid train lover i thought it was pretty cool to be able to go inside some of the locomotives.The 227 definitely was my favorite locomotive there.
@seanblanck8193 жыл бұрын
That is impressive that they have that locomotive sitting in such a fashion that the wheels, rods and linkage are free to spin.
@thedesertrailfan3 жыл бұрын
They do it using a small motor on the other side of the locomotive to turn the wheels, and the locomotive actually sits just above the rails so it doesn’t move. There’s a video showing how it works on the museum’s KZbin channel.
@morg522 жыл бұрын
It would be better, in my opinion, if they had the action keep up with the sound effects.
@ThePTBRULES2 жыл бұрын
@@morg52 Or they just slowed down the earlier sounds effect to make the rate of the turn, I'm sure it takes pretty big mother just to get those wheels turning like that.
@MilePost1063 ай бұрын
The Yellowstone steam locomotives are so under estimated. I have always liked them and the whistle.
@jaedenlyons2 жыл бұрын
Aaah yes, my favorite steam locomotive of all time. the mighty Duluth Missabe and Iron Range baldwin mallet 2-8-8-4 No.227 Career: 1941 - 1960 Rest easy big girl!
@amtrakdude432 Жыл бұрын
only 19 years
@jaedenlyons2 ай бұрын
@@amtrakdude432yes… but at least she is still around today to carry on the legacy of some of the most powerful steam locomotives in the Midwest United States!
@angeloavanti25382 жыл бұрын
the closeups let you see the 'rube goldberg' look of the drive rods, going in all different directions making motion happen. the engineering was and is astounding.
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
It’s certainly interesting to look at up close
@mplsmark2222 жыл бұрын
This was some of the highest technology of the day. Achieved with compass, t-square and slide rules and genius level engineering . Now, our high tech is mostly on the microscopic or even nano level. No less impressive just very different.
@nickpopovich12132 жыл бұрын
Next to the 222 ,For me it was the most difficult engine to fire ,trying to maintain the water level in the general area,and then also maintaining the steam pressure, and this with super heated water injected. Worked on the iron range division ,late fifties.
@darrelleaster5381 Жыл бұрын
Ok, that’s incredible. What was it like working on the lines?
@jaedenlyons2 ай бұрын
If that is so, then which of the Yellowstones if you can recall was one of the more easier ones to fire and maintain?
@nickpopovich12132 жыл бұрын
When I started as a fireman,after I was discharged from the Navy,in addition the railroad ,(yard only) was in the process of adopting a 5 and 2 schedule,not sure on this but I thing they like the road fireman were on a mileage system This opened up positions on the road,well the old road Engineers (some) went bananas. In the old days it took years to bid for a road fireman job. You can imagine,the first day with some of these old road engineers. Not to bore but. One never uttered a sound,and never even looked at me across the cab, and placed the forward reverse lever as far forward ,and the results ,he pulled my fire out the stack. That day happened to be in the 90sand humid-- at the end of our trip 15 hours and 59 minutes ,his only words to me ,”good trip” nothing else
@thomasavensjr.27902 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic piece of articulated steam power, I am glad to see that 3 of the DM&IR "Yellowstone" locomotives were preserved for public display.
@nickpopovich12132 жыл бұрын
I engineer that I worked for as a yard fireman,informed me that by placing a chicken in the forward piston housing ,it would be ready to eat within a few hours of yard work. True to his word ,it was done and delicious. Unfortunately,he attempted to do the same ,on one of our Mallets,the end results ,Black dust, he also tried to heat a can of beans ( one time) but forgot to place a small opening in the lid, although wrapped in waste,and placed in a crossing pipe in front of the boiler ,on my side of the cab ,it BLEW up with beans all over the cab . I’m sure he’s not with us ,God Bless!
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the concept of using a steam locomotive to cook food. I doubt you could do it with any other type of locomotive, yet another advantage of steam power.
@JRStudios70483 жыл бұрын
i know right the wheels truning are awesome
@Thomasthestreamliner2 жыл бұрын
That is insanely cool to see
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
It definitely is! It’s by far the best display of a non-operational locomotive I’ve seen.
@Thomasthestreamliner2 жыл бұрын
@@thedesertrailfan same here, though I never seen it in person
@chucksdesk2 жыл бұрын
Great display! They need to coordinate motion with chugging sound.
@mechamax79192 жыл бұрын
I feel when the Big Boy 4014 was visiting Duluth, I'd like to think it stopped by just to gloat to 227, like "You may be preserved, but I am still running!"
@andypettit5869 Жыл бұрын
Perfect condition for a rebuild...
@strasburgrailfan902 жыл бұрын
That’s insane that they put motors in the wheel sets
@JRStudios70483 жыл бұрын
awesome hi 227!
@thedesertrailfan3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I also like 227. It’s cool how they turn the wheels without moving the locomotive.
@mtfgamma6257 Жыл бұрын
would be neat if they could increase the speed to match the speed of the sounds.
@Thomasfan239sucksLOL Жыл бұрын
they cant, if they did the motor pulleys that make the wheels go would fly right off and the wheels might be damaged
@leslie09652 жыл бұрын
this things better be in the afterlife big time
@maxwellwalcher64202 жыл бұрын
I Love the 2-8-8-4 yellowstone would Number 225 be steamed again please.
@ToothlessTheCreepydragon910 ай бұрын
I hope 227 and 225 steam for train rides at prescott arkansas cause prescott never had a steam engine for rides before they need 2 sheds and new coaches and new rails when it goes far the rails turns it back to the station i think it's gonna be a long ride and 225 would have a new SP 6 chime whistle and 227's original whistle
@cmilburn268 ай бұрын
It bothers me that the Johnson bar is centered so the valves aren’t moving lol
@mplsmark2222 жыл бұрын
The LSRM is an amazing place. I have always wondered where the funding comes from? They must have hundreds of millions dollars in value with all the equipment in their collection. Duluth is not that large of city…..
@LNERMallard2 жыл бұрын
Much of their equipment was donated, including 227. The old Duluth Union Depot was just a perfect and convenient venue to build such an impressive museum, being that no major railroads were using it anymore by the early 1970's. They also have a very large team of volunteers to maintain their equipment, both static and operational.
@nickpopovich12132 жыл бұрын
If you happen to be around steam engines for any length of time,you’ll notice they are alive,unlike Diesel engines,if you mistreat them ,they appear to be a living being. Personally I had a notebook on each Mallet,the Yellowstone 222 and 227 ,did not like me. I tried everything , and we fought each other,on every trip not enough coal, to much coal ,not enough water,to much water.,,the coal wouldn’t ignite at the exact moment,and on it went
@drrgperrin2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great engine. Sad so sort an active working life.
@wwtf71802 жыл бұрын
It was put away in serviceable condition. Wouldn’t take much to put the pistons back in and give it a hydro and fire 🔥 it up for a joyride. That is if the cross compounds still stroke. Shhhh.
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be a sight to see.
@davidney24122 жыл бұрын
TRULY I TRULY EXTREMELY TRULY LOVE ARTICULATED STEAM LOCOMOTIVES . . . BUT . . . THEY HAVE 2 MISTAKES IN THEIR SET UP . 1. WHEN THAT STEAM STARTED MOVING WHEN IT WAS IN STEAM ( BOTH ) ( SETS ) OF ( DRIVING WHEELS ) ( WOULD START MOVING ) ( AT ) (( THE SAME TIME )) . . . (( NOT )) . . . ( THE FRONT SET ) THEN ( THE BACK SET ) . 2. THE CHUGGING SOUND IS (( NOT )) SOUNDING LIKE (( AN ARTICULATED STEAM LOCOMOTIVE )) .
@MarkInLA2 жыл бұрын
Needs more sand !! It's slipping !!.... Too much closeups of the drivers..Camera needs to move vertically as well.... Show pilot/ cab/front/into cab/tender...
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
I focused on the moving drivers because it’s so unique to this display. Maybe I’ll make another video focusing on the rest of the locomotive if I ever go back to that museum.
@vincentmckiernan4975 Жыл бұрын
A-Maze-ing!!!
@pamvoreis54272 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the big boy.
@CBQ-dp8ez2 жыл бұрын
DM&IR 227 and N&W 612
@davidmiller37932 жыл бұрын
Is this locomotive bigger than union pacific locomotive 4014? Can someone tell me
@thedesertrailfan2 жыл бұрын
The DM&IR Yellowstones are about four feet shorter in length than the Union Pacific Big Boys.
@Hawkers02 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The big boy was also heavier at 600 tons
@jaedenlyons2 ай бұрын
However the DM&IR Yellowstones were more powerful than the Union Pacific Big Boys, with a tractive effort of 140,093 lbs while the Big Boys had 135,375 lbs of tractive effort.
@Gdud27272 жыл бұрын
Wow
@BrunoWiebelt2 жыл бұрын
getting seasick
@angeloavanti25382 жыл бұрын
a real beast of burden.
@organbuilder2722 жыл бұрын
Big boy is longer, larger, heavier, more powerful and.....it is fully operational not driven by electric motors while it sits on jacks. It is a good thing to know that this is preserved. The next job is get it trujuing again. Even if the laid tracls around the outskirts of the sity, it would be a smash hit.
@09JDCTrainMan2 жыл бұрын
@@organbuilder272 The Big Boy is more powerful in drawbar horsepower, 6,290 compared to the Yellowstone's 6,250, so it's better for higher speed tonnage trains, but the Yellowstone has more tractive effort than the Big Boy, 140,093 lbf compared to the Big Boy's 135,375 lbf, so the Yellowstone can get a heavier train started and is less likely to stall on grades than the Big Boy.