DM3 FULL LATENCY TESTING - ANALOG AND USB

In this video I run a series of latency tests on the new Yamaha DM3 digital audio console. These tests are all done at 48k and 96k. The tests include analog input to analog output latency and round trip latency using the Yamaha DM3 as a USB interface. Chapters below!
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00:18 Intro
03:23 Analog test 1 48k
04:57 analog test 2 96k
05:54 Return on channel 96k
07:18 Return on channel 48k
07:39 USB interface testing 48k
10:10 USB interface testing 96k
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[@Remotely-Possible]

Yes! Love it. Proof positive that Yamaha is going to be going right back to the top again!

[@redcurrantrecords]

Thanks, looking at one at the moment

[@edwillock]

Great testing. One observation regarding the USB tests, the discrepancy between Logic's predictions and SMAART are probably due to the USB returns not needing to go through an extra A/D/A conversion that the analog mix out -to-2nd channel-in went through. The baseline you used for SMAART for a zero time, I assume, would have had the two A/D/A conversions. I'd guess the DM3 USB round trip is faster than the converters, which in itself is impressive. I have an idea if you want to test the USB latency that should give a level playing field against the analog so the Focusrite doesn't skew it. I love these tests man!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

ED! Just saw your text. Lets work on it.

[@Sten-ee1qp]

Great test. Should be very nice to know the latency of using stage box. Set up with floor stage monitors.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

When I get the Dante model I will run that test

[@MusicWizard85]

Nice. I wonder how this compares to the new Allen and Heath CQ 18T mixers.

[@YuriMocellin]

We need this one!

[@leonid119]

Hello! Question: what needs to be done so that the top bar on the iPad reacts with green misters of all channels like on the console itself? thanks in advance🤝

[@ajg0505]

I just got this board my dude!!

[@ajg0505]

no bullshit! like 2 days ago I got this board. would love to chat with you soon!

[@jj-hb8cy]

Is that latency from source to mixer and then back to your ears? Or is it just from mixer to daw?

[@YannisFyssas]

Hey Jay, killer video. I have a question about the DM3 : does it have a built-in multimand compressor or dynamic EQ? Thanks for the vid ! :)

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

No to mbcb, no to dynamic eq. You can use a ruio or vst rack and host plugins such as dynamic eq.

[@YannisFyssas]

Hey thanks for that. I wasn't aware. When you do that say on the lead vocal will it introduce a ton of latency in the in-ears?

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

@@YannisFyssas no, it’s hardly perceivable. Also depends on your sample rate and routing.

[@YannisFyssas]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS 1000 thanks !

[@pagarreton]

I’m disappointed about the interface values. My RME interfaces have values around 3ms round trip latency…

[@delsurmusic]

Hello, I just got my DM3-D and I do not know how to integrate it with the Rui16-D . It could be a great tutorial ! I have not been able to make them work together yet and use the plugin from VST rack. !

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

What is your routing ?

[@delsurmusic]

Using Dante controller I have ALL DM3 transmitters connected to the RUI 16 receivers and the other way around. I do not know yet how to insert a dante channel in the console channels??, or the main output per say. Any ideas how to approach that?, the DM3 came with a version of VST Rack elements so I think it is possible to use plugins.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Is bypass on the Ruio on/off ?

[@delsurmusic]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS I tried both ways

[@Tigerex966]

Can you do the logic test with dante connectuon.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Sure , when I get a Dante model.

[@Tigerex966]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS thanks😊

[@redcurrantrecords]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS Thanks, I would think a virtual Dante driver would be less than USB, but would be interested to see the results

[@lmstudio5338]

Extremly low latency, thats mainly cuz they dont have any insert point . Thats sucks. No dca, no groups, no inserts. Its just poor digital mixer. Change my mind?

[@schellstede]

Firmware 2.0 might change your mind...

[@lmstudio5338]

@@schellstede it did!

[@titanicgrupomusical6953]

Quick question: .. Which mixer sounds better, TF1 or DM3 for live band ? .. I’m TF1 user but I’m looking to upgrade my mixer .

[@JorgeParagliding]

Sorry I'm not sharing any insight but I am also deciding between getting a TF1 vs a DM3. I realized the TF1 is quite old compared to the DM3 but I can't help but feel I am not necessarily "upgrading" as you are giving up a bit. Less outputs, less combo jacks, less I/O over USB while you are getting (arguably) better converters, 96K and annoying power brick supply in order to get a very cool form factor.

[@schellstede]

That will be the one with the better Soundengineer behind it.