Man City’s Problematic Transfer! 🤨

[@ashton5249]

UEFA needs to create some additional rules and regulation for the clubs following the multi-club ownership model.

[@KEViiNTEMFX]

Clubs voted against this recently

[@ashton5249]

@@KEViiNTEMFX It was conducted by the FA, not UEFA, if I can recall.

[@KEViiNTEMFX]

@ashton5249 yeah

[@exivianilove4707]

U hate it because the owner own so many club ? What exactly do you hate ? Do you hate because the have money or do you hate that this will lead to the team getting stronger and u team getting weak ? Why u hate them forhaving so many team ? I dont get it

[@ashton5249]

@@exivianilove4707 I can't explain why multi club ownership model can destroy the integrity of the game in here because there are so many points to cover. But let's just take Red Bull owned clubs for an example, the 2 major clubs owned by them are RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg. Take a note of how many players both the teams, they both have a connective network benefiting all the clubs involved in this. You can also look at the reasons why both the RB clubs are hated in both Germany and Austria, you will get some idea from that.

[@felfc_amp]

He will be a baller in the national league💫🔥

[@hasanrizwan2882]

😂

[@madeupstory9510]

I'm just wondering how much you lot will be disappointed when things don't pan out the way expect them. Like, do you know how improbable such penalty is? Even if Man City was to somehow found guilty, the most probable punishments are fines, transfer window ban(like Chelsea), and point deduction. Any form of retrospective punishment, relegation or worse is very very unlikely. Yet, this narrative is being passed around so much that everyone convinced that it's inevitable and it's just a matter of time. And when things end up different, we are going to see you lot complaining that there was some form of corruption in the English legal system as well. I'm just waiting for that day!

[@DMac__]

😂😂😂

[@jamesdosandwichyt]

i got the 100th like on this funny comment yay

[@somallo2180]

He is a baller on the field and in bed!

[@athanasioskosmas3915]

The same happends between Nottinham forest, Olympiacos ane Rio Ave. They have the same owner

[@madeupstory9510]

As long as the best team in world world doesn't do it, it's alright✌

[@julianhay584]

Thats the thing people get butt hurt over a club that is creating a sports business

[@athanasioskosmas3915]

@giwrgospetrou1159 Προσφατα την αγορασε

[@Geo-nw9ug]

@@madeupstory9510not the best team itw theyre not even top of the league😂😂

[@Rafael-Matheus96]

Rio Ave too?

[@man.q]

Other clubs have been doing it for decades with no issues, now Man city are doing it and it becomes an issue

[@obi-wankenobi2392]

How many clubs are co-owned with 13 other clubs lmao. Two clubs isn’t a big deal, but 4+ is crazy

[@gewnurb]

there's been a few multi club ownerships with 2 or 3 clubs, but the small clubs have never been pawns to the big ones like this, estac troyes spent what is their transfer record to send the player on loan to another one of their clubs, before selling it for another one of their clubs, savio did not play a single game for troyes. Estac Troyes is simply a pawn club to man city, they're nothing but a way to evade ffp, imagine your transfer record signing not playing a single game for your club, imagine how the fans felt about it, this is not any ordinary multi club ownership model, this is one that exploits the small clubs for the benefit of city, it's a monopoly inside a monopoly, it's simply stupid Also, Redbull clubs are hated even more for the same reason, they've arguably done less bad since they don't use the small clubs for the big ones, instead they help each other, but are still hated more than city. So yes, other clubs have been doing it for decades, but never like this, city have a monopoly inside a monopoly, that's completely new, they're just using feeder clubs that don't even get to use the player.

[@KingBlueSlimss]

Why are you lying? Other clubs in the past have owned 2-3 teams, the the other teams are far smaller than parent club. Owning 13 clubs basically means you can trade almost entirely for free among a pool of 200+ players. What other clubs can do that?

[@4960four]

Tbf Man city rarely signs flops, only one I can remember in recent years is kalvin philipps. Maybe Nolito?

[@Sujith-m4x]

Then what about haaland doku alveraz kovovic gvordio watch football

[@deepakpandey8240]

​@@Sujith-m4xWhich one is flop amongst them. Haaland literally broke every single season striking record. What are you smoking?

[@actuallySand]

Alvarez was bought for 20 million and was sold for 90 million

[@magicalhikari5859]

I was gonna say… Haven’t the Red Bull clubs done the exact same thing multiple times? Why is it suddenly a worldwide problem in this case?

[@hauxikan5551]

People don't like that either

[@Abu-Talha-Al-Kurdi]

Because the owners of the City Group are not white Europeans. Bias as always.

[@dimitri5]

That's reason why the Red bull teams are the most hated in those leagues

[@mananghildiyal2675]

that's why they are so hated in Germany and Austria

[@nevenpatrk9661]

Yep off the top of my head, Gulasci, Bernardo, Upemacano, Sabitzer, Laimer, Sesko, Keita, Schlager, and Kevin Kampl have all played for both clubs. Tyler Adams also came from New York Red Bulls.

[@Nando_Lorris_04]

I don’t like Man City, but Watford did exactly this with Udinese for years and no one complained. As long as the governing bodies decide the finances are in order, I don’t see an issue

[@magicpanda-07]

Finally someone gets it

[@theodorequist4904]

💀no offense but that’s Udinese and Watford

[@Nando_Lorris_04]

So why should the rules be different? Why should the standards be different? If people hated the transfer system, they’d have called it out whenever they saw it. The fact people are only calling it out now with Man City suggests it’s actually hatred for Man City

[@theodorequist4904]

@@Nando_Lorris_04 that’s not what I meant and I understand your frustration. But by saying what I said I meant that what happens in smaller clubs is less known. There are probably a lot of things happening in some small clubs that I don’t like but I just don’t know about it

[@theodorequist4904]

If you take what the Red Bull Group has been doing for years I find it annoying. And in Germany particularly it is HATED not even disliked. It is the same way people also hate what City’s group is doing. Most people would also hate what happens in Udinese but either their attention has not been drawn to it OR it hasn’t made a huge impact on the progress of those teams so people don’t care

[@МиланЖивковић-к9ъ]

Multi-club ownership needs to completly seize to exist.

[@xeno6358]

Cease* not seize

[@madeupstory9510]

Arguable really. All of Red bull, Liverpool's FSG, United's INEOS and more have such systems. You can't just make it cease, it's way too complicated.

[@lejzertejzerpejzer1835]

The rule never works, really. It is what it is.

[@kmahta]

​@@madeupstory9510red bull & Liverpool have nothing similar. Liverpool just buy Red Bull player because they have kinda same mindset players. Liverpool has only brought 4 Red Bull products. Liverpool has nothing to do with Red Bull.

[@Blackmanlak]

@@kmahtanah he said them individually

[@pityko9662]

Everyone only wants to see the bad in MultiClub ownerships even tho there is also a part to it that is not bad. Players have a steady path to develop and play on the level they need to, it encourages good running of clubs and makes the game more global, reaching more people and possibly reaching players and giving them chances instead of letting them waste away as an unknown.

[@captlee3732]

Awesome work city group keep them coming

[@xihlovochuma3227]

❤

[@kitty_kats_love]

Boo corruption

[@tanmaybhayani]

@@kitty_kats_love It's called playing the game. Cry more.

[@Lil_Elegant]

@@kitty_kats_lovecry more

[@ManyaMishra-y8d]

This is a problem as it has been owned by one group and literally is going to another club of same group 😂😂😅

[@benchinny-ev3xe]

Why is it a problem?

[@fatadayfelix]

​@@benchinny-ev3xe Conflict of interest. Selling players from club to club that are under the same ownership distorts valuations of players.

[@fessali5726]

@@ManyaMishra-y8d what’s wrong with that?Are you mad about this or mad that city are dominant?

[@Shahwezz]

Key target for Barcelona. My man just dodged a bullet 😅

[@dylanbarcafan]

😭😭 so true 😢

[@snipex3028]

How?

[@paskapaterson4019]

Nothing wrong with it, not a loophole or an "exploit", just good business.

[@zdopezz3744]

Its just ruining the game at that point

[@liamnoble7206]

​@zdopezz3744 but it would have been absolutely fine if City paid €30m to another club? Not sure what the problem is, the money is still counting against City for FFP purposes, he's moving for fair market value, and a smaller club now have more funds to help improve their team. Why is it an issue that Troyes are owned by CFG too?

[@Beckzyy]

@@liamnoble7206 because it goes against their anti-city agenda, and they cant be level headed and use their brains online, as that would be too intelligent for these people

[@hoodwiser7652]

Why not have City group just own all teams then? They can have their own little private football manager game then. The shit is terrible for football, the only people ok with it are the ones who support clubs who participate in it

[@paskapaterson4019]

@@hoodwiser7652 completely different things

[@SJG31]

He’s going back on loan to Girona next season.

[@SJG31]

@dawhne5002 who owns Troyes? The city group.

[@johnguzman491]

He can’t

[@deepakpandey8240]

He is gonna be with Man City main team man.

[@Gentryrok]

Dude this is the best thing that could happen to a player. They start at a team in a less competitive league. They excel and get promoted to a league competitive to their skill level. All under one umbrella.

[@kieranduchayla6657]

Ita so bad for football. There needs to be way more rules put into place to stop clubs from doing this so easily

[@redx11x]

I think you do not understand promotion and relegation

[@twotwolow2343]

​@@kieranduchayla6657bad for football lol anyway its good for football players ngl if you remove other multiple ownership club lot of football players will be jobless Less chance for footballers to show what they made off in the pitch and train in high standard training facility if you remove multiple ownership of big clubs

[@horanebonner]

exactly ppl always complain and want the rules to change to favor them or their clubs these decisions are best for the development of players worldwide who cares who owns the clubs

[@tambi.football]

As someone who supports a city football group club. I hate when They do this. They take the best players from cfg clubs and give them to man city and girona, like they did to us.

[@deepakpandey8240]

Which player?

[@mrartdeco]

“Something needs to change surely” Me : yeah for your club to have proper owner who can properly invest and strategize

[@anirbankar4941]

Which club do you Support? Chelsea ?

[@croskoal]

What, 3 dumb comments. How long until 2 city or RB teams are deciding a tournament final? The owner group decides who wins and who loses...

[@mrartdeco]

@@anirbankar4941 obviously no

[@mrartdeco]

@@croskoal oh look.. the cream of the crop.. go sound your protest on internet and hope all the rich people controlling “the beautiful game” heard your plea and listens to you

[@croskoal]

@@mrartdeco dude, I don't care either way. Multi ownership does serve a purpose, prince. I'm just saying what it's likely to happen at some point if you keep investing successfully on mediocre teams

[@swedish_james]

Multi Club ownership it's just the same us competing with yourself and it's also bad news to other clubs

[@ntuthukomjsikhosana8915]

Red bull are doing it, their clubs even compete in the UCL. So basically it has to stop because Man City are now doing it? Okay🤔

[@kitty_kats_love]

Yess

[@Tibial33]

People have had an issue with Red Bull doing this since they started doing it. Look how Leipzig is viewed in German for example.

[@MatPocobo42]

Exactly. They only complain when they see City doing it. It has been rampant for decades.

[@LeeTAZ-sl7de]

​@@MatPocobo42people have been complaining about red bull for ages, but they havnt got charges hanging over there heads at the moment so everything they do isn't as scrutinised.

[@stewarthansen6592]

As a Newcastle fan, I agree. We did that with ASM this year and, though I think the fee was reasonable, I think there has to be more strict approvals and fair market scrutiny at play with transfers within the same ownership

[@golfalpha284]

That’s some back alley economics you explained there. If you own a lumber yard and a furniture factory it doesn’t mean you get the wood for your factory for free. It’s 2 different companies. You can get a discount but it’s not what you are describing.

[@DMac__]

Bahahaha you have no idea about multi club football ownership my guy…they’re not getting a “discount” on Savio. They literally already own this player (asset) under a seperate club

[@freakyholic]

@@DMac__’own’ my ars e. Business is business

[@TheMagshine]

Exploiting a loophole is not illegal. All clubs do it!

[@cheech9841]

There were no videos like this when the Red Bull teams were doing it. As soon as CFG does it, it’s illegal. Understandable😂

[@ky1jah]

City been doing this for years dont act brand new cuz people are shedding light on it now

[@Tibial33]

What? Red Bull have been criticised for it beyond belief. Maybe not in MLS but in Austria and Germany, massively.

[@seanhack628]

There has been tonnes of criticism for Red Bull, hell I've even seen critiques of Watford and Udinese in the same vein

[@Randomaccount9470]

Red Bull is literally the most hated you clown

[@garvitsaxena418]

Am I the only one that gets with Girona & Atletico Madrid's kits?

[@jonbolton491]

It means they can potentially inflate the value of their own players in order to escape FFP. Man City can sell a player for 50m to, say, Girona ( themselves) in order to balance their books. The most financially favorable.clubs in the group can use the others as a way of balancing their books. Just like a company headquatered in Ireland can sell billions of dollars of "R & D" services to a subsidiary in the USA as a way of reducing their tax burden in the USA.

[@alone2break]

Well it'll ruin girona ffp? And they never did such a thing (yet). In any case everything that man city had done for girona leading to the state of girona now.. And its good.

[@jonbolton491]

@@alone2break Just to be clear, what I'm outlining is merely potential. And it won't necessarily ruin the FFP of the clubs used as a feeder club. The rest of the 'lower' clubs will be used to service the ambitions of one or two higher ones. This can be possible because to the owners, all the clubs are one entity. Again, this is just potential.

[@thereverendoffunk]

NUFC apparently are ruining football when there's bearly a mention of a link to a player in Saudi i.e Ruben Neves while Man City and others like this go under the radar with bearly a mention.

[@B_razzer]

How are people not understanding the problem here? Yeah it’s world class business, but at the same time it’s bs on the transfer fee front bc the City group can set any price on a player and that money just gets moved to another club in the chain. Say Savio moves for 50M, Troyes gets “50M” but it was a free transfer but also Troyes have 50M now.

[@shuaibmahammed5807]

Still don't see the problem, they might be fumbling the numbers but who really cares?

[@EMETRL]

ok but it's not like the money comes from thin air. That's 50M that city have to balance in order to meet FFP regulations

[@humbertoramirez358]

City don’t own the whole club. Same with Girona they own a majority stake in the club but there’s multiple owners.

[@eljee102]

No, the CFG can't set an arbitrary price. The fee is based on the estimated market value of the player. It'll be closer to around 30 million. Please remember as well, that the whole CFG setup is geared towards maximizing a player's potential and comfort. I'm willing to guess that most people draw the line with savio because 1. It's city and 2. Savio's actually really good and they'd like him to sign for their team.

[@raphael4286]

​@@EMETRLexactly everyone complaining is stupid. Plus there's tons of talent round the world and these players at multi owned clubs aren't shackled to the city group, if they want to go I'm sure they can.

[@TheGabrielv1312]

As an Atletico-mg fan, I hope they suffer some punishment. His transfer promised several bonuses for goals and performance at Troyes and they simply sent him immediately to another team and used this to manipulate the transfer values.

[@germanlo123]

Idk man, when Red Bull Group do it, it's "smart business", but suddenly it's bs when City do it. I hate City too, but we gotta stay consistent.

[@martinjile7666]

It’s only a problem once Man City do it

[@CamrobinsonMVP]

Exactly

[@JUSTGOAT10]

Fr

[@battistoberhoel8839]

Nah man it's already bullshit when Red Bull do it. Just look at the hate Leipzig and Salzburg get in Germany and Austria.

[@BhargaPrasad]

We hate them equally. Who even called what Redbull are doing "smart"?

[@dan7972-k9m]

The whole multi club ownership scam is really bad for football

[@speeder10ne]

I could be wrong, but this feels like a bit of an attack on city. They still need to prove they are paying market value for the player, and they dont make these kind of signings nearly as often as the red bull group or udinese/watford. I appreciate the red bull group are hated in Germany, but having been a fan of your channel for a while, I have seen you praise those clubs for those kind of transfers. I really enjoy your content, but this feels like an attack on city (my club) rather than trying to point out a genuine problem in football today.

[@madeupstory9510]

Exactly what I said. He called as "the stupidest comment section he has ever had" in one of his replies. It's very apparent that he is pushing a narrative. Just give him a dislike, hit him where it hurts so he can be disciplined.

[@ayylmao2569]

@@madeupstory9510 Yea. Troyes get the income they need, they also get a great and extensive scouting network to secure new players once Savio leaves. Manchester City gets to develop players they already wanted through other CFG teams

[@kitty_kats_love]

Boo corruption

[@ronmastrio2798]

Lol City fans always playing the victim when they do nothing but cheat.

[@lancejohnson8388]

I'm quite confident that things will change when Newcastle United start doing this.

[@CamrobinsonMVP]

As long as city pays the fair market value for him I don't see an issue? It's not like Savio is being forced to go. He's literally stated on the record that he dreams of playing for city one day

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Can be hard to determine fair market valued, Italy is a prime example of that.

[@teobuzzo779]

​@@somethinglikethat2176 the only way is to know how much Is someone willing to pay. But if the owner Is the same for the two clubs they can inflate the price and this can be used as a tax layoff for the expenses, basically exploiting the transfer market to get an advantage over other teams.

[@kieranduchayla6657]

They could buy him for 500k and say yep both clubs agreed that's fair...

[@paskapaterson4019]

@@kieranduchayla6657 and if both clubs agree, then so what? That's up to them. It's a benefit of a good investment, nothing wrong with that. Other clubs are free to do the same, and they do.

[@kieranduchayla6657]

@paskapaterson4019 okay you've no idea about the impact this can have on football so let's just leave the conversation here.

[@lordhenrywotton95]

I can totally see why teams exploit this loophole, but imo it needs to be addressed.

[@benedicteki]

There's nothing to change when there's nothing wrong

[@spinyslasher6586]

There's everything wrong with this.

[@benedicteki]

@@spinyslasher6586 what really

[@ashfaqtahmeed194]

​@@spinyslasher6586 yes everything is wrong when your club isnot doing it. Dumb ass dont you get it if any player is coming out a multiowned club it doesnot mean it the best player always comes out. Plus they can always buy them paying a high price

[@Madvillain69551]

@@spinyslasher6586explain what’s wrong then?? You’re just jealous

[@spinyslasher6586]

@@Madvillain69551 Jealous? Jealous how? Protesting against corporate interests isn't jealousy, it's a cry for democratisation and less corporate overreach: 1) Corporations shouldn't hold a monopoly on football pipelines. 2) It furthers commercial interest in football over the interests of the actual fans. 3) Actual fans get alienated over international tourists and plastics. It's no longer about how dedicated you are to the club in your life, it's about how much money you can give to the club. Fans become commodities.

[@DavLS9]

Granada, Udinese and Watford have the same owner.

[@zizujillo5818]

Naaa everyone is jealous of city,and its pretty evident,,,when city group bought him they saw potential and thats all,,,it was upto them to develop it,,every scout could have seen it but they chose not to

[@kitty_kats_love]

They can leverages their investment..u understand or not..they can start by recruiting and end of days control the money transfer according to their will. In the end the player can be transfer within the same company and like cronyism, its all about who you knows

[@zizujillo5818]

@kitty_kats_love or at the end of the day the player can fail,,madrid bought renier Jesus same time they bought vini and rodrigo after,,2 of them made it madrid one did not,,,its a risk buying talent doesn't mean a thing,they have to make it or else you're operating at a loss

[@karmaascendant3936]

@@kitty_kats_loveit’s all if buts and maybes. I don’t believe there’s been a single player at City who’s actually played more than like 5 games who was moved around between all of these clubs before ending up at City. Savio’s just good enough that City ‘s haters are jumping to worse case scenarios for no discernible reason. City have more of a relationship with Benfica than any of their own clubs.

[@lani8766]

This is good , I think more clubs should adopt the multiclub system, this would give a lot of kids an opportunity to have better chances of making it big in football, I mean think about a player like N’golo,

[@Canas94]

Absolute scum of a system in my opinion. It means they'll get things on the cheap too. It's just wrong in so many levels. Banning sales between clubs owned by the same parent would be the simplest solution.

[@GamuTakayama-x2f]

And who disadvantaged from this? Football players' agents? Good then.

[@owenleaper21]

like saying youth academy’s are stupid, it’s the same. you still own the player they just don’t play for your first team

[@Smulleman]

Just a little note about the world map shown in this clip; we, NAC Breda, are *not* under the global reach of the City Group. The supporters successfully blocked a take over attempt by them.

[@spa2damax]

What is the point in investing in multiple clubs if you cant reap the benefits? It isnt BS lol. They had a plan to develop Savio and it worked.

[@haws3307]

youre clearly too young to understand the problem with this

[@spa2damax]

@@haws3307 what has age got to do with it you melt. I'm 30 lol. We've never really seen this before unless you can enlighten us with your big age? Clubs will try to leverage advantage in whatever way they are allowed. Absolutely nothing wrong with it in my view. If it's so critical for the football world at large then they should change the rules

[@belluh-1huey102]

​@dav2745 you're immature for not arguing his position whilst changing the subject.

[@belluh-1huey102]

@dav2745 But fact of the matter is that in this comment thread you did not make a sensible counter to his argument, instead you make a new argument. Which is a logical fallacy known as the Ad Hominen Fallacy. I am simply looking at this comment thread and all you said was, "you’re clearly to immature to have a sensible discussion," and providing no further words to argue against his point. I am arguing that you said no actual response against spa's which you are literally doing again but to me. Also looking at this thread when you say, " I literally made the exact same point he did to highlight how stupid it was," where is your statement regarding the matter? I only see 5 replies to the main comment, and I am going to make it 6.

[@belluh-1huey102]

@dav2745 another brilliant example of the Ad Hominen fallacy. Brilliant work from the Manchester United fan.

[@moisesfernando2516]

Nothing needs to change this stimulates growth in many leagues, as groups that know how to run football clubs run football clubs in various leagues

[@crazycanard7728]

The map you briefly show is incorrect. NAC Breda is not owned by City football group.

[@madeupstory9510]

It's all narrative bruv, just give a dislike. Notice how quickly he skipped on the PSV loan portion? He just wants to push a narrative and the illiterate sheep of an audience he has believe that he is wise for "pointing it out" But after all, as along as this is all they are limited to, crying online, it's a fair price as we will be shining our trophies.

[@ronmastrio2798]

@@madeupstory9510 Lol anythings a narrative to City plastics who play the victim while supporting the biggest cheats in world football.

[@userknownunknown]

Of course, he will not reply to this comment because he's too busy hating on City.

[@johnwharton3950]

baffles me how a company can own multiple football teams, this stupidity is ruining football

[@ntuthukomjsikhosana8915]

Total BS is your jealousy towards Man City

[@rednaskela4830]

You also saw a similar but different situation with Saint-Maximin going from a Saudi owned club to a Saudi owned league. Surprised me seeing he was sold below market value as i assumed they had big plans for the club to at least sell him at market value to help out with investments in terms of FFP but it's apparant the focus at least was on the league. If it's still like that i'm sure Isak, Bruno and more is going to be tempted next window.

[@tubbiex4504]

Same with RB NY, RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig...

[@jgames8006]

And as Batman once said *You're paying me with my own money*😂

[@BrANd1NH05]

No more multi owner ship and spending caps should be implemented

[@ethancampbell215]

I absolutely hate when clubs make transfers this way! I despise seeing players move from Salzburg to Leipzig and I hate this move too, I massively disagree with clubs being partnered together because it makes things like this possible, he would’ve had a lot of interest but City have completely circumvented that by signing him early for a relatively unrealistic price and have this loophole to get any player they want easily from their partner clubs

[@Kyowula]

I hope he goes to man city that it becomes more powerful

[@Jack_huntakilla]

115 and counting FC for a reason

[@Sujith-m4x]

Jealousy at its peak

[@Jack_huntakilla]

@@Sujith-m4x 115

[@ryanthomas8185]

City Football Group may own the clubs, but each individial club has seperate accounts. All within the rules of the game, as it stands.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Yes it is, what people are saying is there is an issue with the rules.

[@IHaveAWeaponArsenal]

Thats like playing with two players in monopoly while everyone else is on their own.

[@Truebro79]

Why does it need to change tho? What's wrong with it?

[@DMac__]

You can’t recognise how monopolising football clubs around the world could be detrimental? Bro just think about the transfer spend inequity that could stem from this. Without regulation the greediest clubs will have such a ridiculous advantage in terms of avoiding FFP breaches through spending across multiple clubs. It’s a terrible loophole that needs to be fixed

[@scottslade7468]

​@@DMac__Instead of crying and being salty how about your team get better mate.

[@Ramm111]

​@@DMac__Actually, teams in Europe are only allowed to buy players at their minimum market value... unless their contract has a release clause on it. They're not really cheating FFP

[@magicpanda-07]

Football at sport and a business. So I no problem with the multi club system. Because it can help smaller club to typically good players for their level. It can help the development of players to find clubs that would their development. And the bigger club and get a player who is excelling and the smaller. And if that doesn't work that can just go back

[@ashfaqsheikh3134]

Wow. Nice facts ​

[@hairyhaggis7431]

Multi club needs to end and is a bigger problem than the loan issue that UEFA addressed. Even as a Chelsea fan, I would still say the multiple club issue needs to be ended.

[@ashfaqsheikh3134]

Its nice seeing Everyone attack and be jealous of City. Like they are dominating this Era so its inevitable. But this is genius 😮. And Man City doesnt even need him that much

[@chrisguapoo]

dominating this era? Lol

[@deangreen2567]

Well done to Man City, they’ve eclipsed Aston Villa in terms of league titles.. but not even overtaken Forest in terms of European titles. ‘Dominating this era’.

[@ashfaqsheikh3134]

@@deangreen2567 Yeah and they have won the Treble just last season bruh. And only 10 teams have acheived it in history lol. Ok and they had reached the final of Champions League in 2021. If only they had won it against Chelsea. So keep underestimating. I actually like that. Ok thats the end bye

[@chrisguapoo]

@@ashfaqsheikh3134 how does that prove that they dominated this era ?

[@Mr_Bing10]

Same old city fan garage “but we won a treble” let’s see if they beat the court case (spoiler they aren’t) good luck finding a streaming service to watch city in the national league

[@ayylmao2569]

There's really nothing wrong with this. The only issue is other teams are getting weaker while City is getting stronger (so a positive). CFG transfers enable Troyes to turn a profit - allowing them to invest it into newer players to develop and further turn a profit. Manchester City can develop youngsters at affiliate clubs before giving them a chance at a higher level - something they might not have had if they immediately went to a top-level league; while also having the transfer remain affordable and not overly expensive. Everyone wins - Troyes has security in transfer income and a great scouting network. Manchester City has a route to develop youngsters they have scouted without getting scammed like many big clubs do from the teams that traditionally produce the most in-demand youngsters. It's the future of football and a great business practice there isn't anything immoral about it either unless someone can argue for it.

[@mehreenshaukat695]

As a City fan/Hamburg fan, ye no these transfers aren't needed, we signed Kalvin Phillips for no reason, then an Argentine prodigy, and now this.

[@Marex5341]

We need kalvin as reserve

[@mehreenshaukat695]

@@Marex5341 There's no need he doesn't even play anymore

[@Marex5341]

@@mehreenshaukat695 Yeah no shitious sherlock thats called a reserve

[@mehreenshaukat695]

@@Marex5341 That is the whole reason for his downfall he should leave imo I love him just if this continues to happen then ye no he's done

[@hom-hn2gf]

DMac understand football. key subjects explained concisely-not an extra word. one of the best

[@Muthal17Edits]

What a load of bs! Savio would never join a sinking ship like troyes if they weren't a part of the "City" group, he himself said it.The only reason he joined troyes was to increase his chances at one day playing for city

[@fernandoanaya1903]

To be honest, more needs to be done to level the playing field for smaller clubs in general. It's annoying seen the same clubs playing vs each other year after year.

[@ryanfletcher1899]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this and if your club had this model you wouldn’t complain. You can’t stop or ban transfers between clubs just because the owners’ owners are the same😂

[@spinyslasher6586]

If my club had this I would absolutely complain.

[@alexuzumaki9520]

​@@spinyslasher6586 I call bs

[@antony_5261]

The thought of every club having this model makes me sick

[@ryanfletcher1899]

@@spinyslasher6586 you’re standing from an outside position so obviously you can’t have a proper view of it; if your club (idk who you support) was owned by the same owners as Real Madrid and your club got Guler or another young player cheaper than others could you’d constantly complain and want him out of your club? Come on

[@TheLitRight]

I wish people would stop having such a shallow insight into multi-club ownership. Claiming this was “inevitable” is like saying it’s inevitable that Haaland would go to RB Leipzig. Oh, wait, they sold him to a “rival” club when he went to BVB instead.. huh.. Anyone would probably go to City instead of Barcelona right now. They have Pep, and they actually have money to sign you.

[@Faya.16]

I hate multi clubs ownership and state owned clubs from the bottom of my heart they are the enemies of football

[@DMac__]

Facts bro. I can’t believe so many “football fans” are unable to recognise how detrimental multi club ownerships can be

[@madeupstory9510]

​@@DMac__All of Douglas Luiz, Pedro Porro, Brahim Diaz, Jeremy Frimpong, Yan Couto, Oscar Bobb, Kayky, Dobvyk, Ferran Torres, Herrera, Baptise, Maximo-Perrone, Issa Kabore, and many more are talents that never made it to European teams radar spotted by multi club ownership models. The system is not one that's supposed to bolster Man City or any of these teams. It's a project of recruitment whereby potent players are signed from every corner of the world, loaned out for development, and sold on profit. It's money for the model owners and opportunity for the potent youngsters. Savio is an exception deemed to be too good and so he was retained. But the audience here is misunderstanding things primarily cause of how you made the video. It of course has it's cons as well. Firstly, even though the players signed are loaned out to teams which match their style of play, if a club within the group is a viable option, they will be the priority. Such opportunity will give them an advantage. As of now, it's only Girona who are over-performing. But this might also happen to Troyes, Bahia, New York FC and the others. Since this is not fair, I believe that the number of transfers within a group should be capped. Limited the number of teams to be owned by also be effective. And finally, Redbull also does recruit a lot of talents. If the system, as per your suggestion, was to be abolished, the talent pool in Europe would take a massive hit. You are massively oversimplifying things. If there is any other con which I missed, I would love to know.

[@freakyholic]

You hate it only because your club cannot benefit from it.

[@Faya.16]

@@freakyholic I will hate it too if my club was one of them they are destroying football

[@freakyholic]

I don't care. As one of the beneficiaries, I've been enjoying it.

[@enzodjx162]

Man city has 115 charges and then fa and epl changes the rules to not affect City. I just want to said that City Group are ruining football just like Chelsea when Roman abramovich took Chelsea and Bayern Munchen when buys key players of club rivals.

[@DMac__]

All I hear is FACTS!

[@baqifqaji]

Then by your words that Rma and Barcelona ruining football for years?

[@enzodjx162]

@@baqifqaji Barcelona yes and Real Madrid probably

[@Randomaccount9470]

​@@baqifqajitwo wrongs don't make a right and barca are currently paying for it also Juve It's just Al city that hasn't 🐫

[@austinnunn758]

Don't hate B we as Manchester City do very smart business and plan ahead, the only BS going on is you hating on city join the club😅😉

[@dimitri5]

I ain't no fake fan

[@Upwardfanatic14]

bro how is he hating on them. literally all he said was that they are exploiting a loophole, which is what they are doing. the only person hating is you

[@michaelvictor6033]

huh well aren’t you a smooth brain. go look up the 115 pending charges that your club is facing

[@tixel_101]

@@dimitri5🫡

[@KEViiNTEMFX]

​@@michaelvictor6033The alleged charges?

[@tsdvaks]

It’s good business. Don’t just be a player in the market, own your own supply chain. Other businesses do it too..

[@Snagavitch]

Holy shit the plastic fans are mad at you for this one

[@DMac__]

100% man. Some of the dumbest comments I’ve read in a while too 🤦‍♂️

[@madeupstory9510]

​​@@DMac__Piss off you little wanker. I wanted to reply respectfully but now it's obvious that you are just pushing a narrative. The Redbull is hated for making the clubs they bought simple advertisement utilities. Like, many English teams are owned by the same model and they've been "sharing" players for years. It was never a problem. But nobody would like their club to be renamed to "Redbull Liverpool" or "Redbull Hamburg". The system is accepted in the English league and teams approved the decision. I'm addition, you said that this is not about Man City but you did this vid not when Redbull shared 25+ players in the last couple of years, not when Todibo was firmly linked to newly INEOS owned MAN Utd not when Southampton signed players from Udinese. Cause why not wait for the team you despise to do it so you can hit 2 birds with a stone? And all of these pathetic sheep think that you lot did something. Fuck off!!

[@madeupstory9510]

You don't even know what a Plastic fan means do you? You just use it to name fans you don't like... Well, after all, that's where you're reach is limited to isn't? Crying and disapproving online? Enjoy your only coping mechanism!

[@DMac__]

@@madeupstory9510 you’ve made 32 comments on my channel crying. Just stop bro, no one cares about what you have to say

[@danshaw3527]

@@DMac__interesting tone, hardly how I would expect a KZbinr to act toward a viewer. You’ve presented a biased opinion on a controversial topic and are now getting pushback and all you can do is revert to insults. Not a clever way to end an argument.

[@HalaandaiseSauce]

to some it’s broken , but in reality it’s just extending your youth, training, and scouting portfolio around the world. The higher performing clubs are allowing for better resources at the lower performing ones and in turn development of youth for the higher tier clubs. All while being able to move them freely with less obstacles.

[@mounirelardi9170]

Welcome to Manchester family 💙

[@ryuoshinz]

Next episode is prolly one of my favourites. Great character development

[@youngmino6036]

Doku’s time at city could be soon ending

[@PepTalkTillYouDrop]

Eh... Nope. If anything, it will be Grealish leaving.

[@Pablo-el3xb]

As a city fan, keep up the good work tixxi and cry some more all the haterz 😂

[@jean-poljacques4284]

A few friends of mine are ESTAC supporters. Their club is just being used as a pawn, buying players they never get to see play for their team. It's disrespectful to them, and unfair to other clubs. Multi ownership needs to be banned.

[@absarsheeraz3410]

With how much the player price has inflated after the neymar transfer and the competition is increasing with organisations not giving clubs enough money loopholes like this and private ownership of clubs has become important

[@Rowan_0161]

This may be an issue if teams were exploiting the system by buying players at ridiculously low prices but City are paying savios transfer value, the only thing that City are avoiding is the addons teams put on their players, its basically favouritism like when clubs have good relations or a player wants to go to a certain club so even though a different team offers more they still sell to the team which the player wants, pluss i doubt savio is in tears about joining City

[@kumarbhargabkalita6798]

The jealousy man ...LOL

[@paulwhite4804]

This is some high grade bitterness, Barca, Real, Inter, AC and numerous other clubs have been exploiting the transfer market for years. We'd be left with no top end football clubs in Europe.

[@nukex1989]

That’s a flex right there. Not just one football teams but twelve.

[@mosesbaraka3355]

To survive is either u have money or a good academy

[@upthereds1892]

As much as I don’t like multi club ownership it actually is pretty smart from a business perspective. However football is more than a business.

[@RickyPro888]

The same happened with Aaron Mooy a few years ago

[@sixtyseven3337]

Sadly, there will always and forever be loopholes.

[@jbsmith8848]

Manchester City are in impeccably run club. They use what is available to them. FFP is what needs to be addressed, it was well intentioned but has caused a sporting inequality. Maybe even setting a limit based on divisions rather than a clubs past performance. How can a promoted club possibly compete under the current restrictions. We are seeing the disparity worse than ever this season in the Premier League.

[@tzett1]

This is horrible. We protested in Germany against investments and we won. And here we all need to that. City, RB and others are ruining the game we all love.

[@Pkqt8]

City group is the best fr and a lot of clubs follows their way now days as it’s better for player development

[@Randomaccount9470]

Ajax and BVB are better for player development City group just prove with the right amount of money you can by the West Little by little Even trump was praising them in a speech

[@lukablazquez9793]

777 also does this but fortunately at a way smaller scale, just loaning unwanted players to other teams that do need them, which I believe is pretty efficient

[@Funnyhilarioustube]

What does it matter citys accounts are not the same accounts as cfg

[@ewwyn4182]

I struggle to see much of an issue here. the only clubs that lose are the baby clubs feeding the big club but small independent clubs aren't affected cuz they probably don't have the money

[@PLRMoto]

Nothing clubs like Watford - Udinese, Both RV clubs and such haven’t been doing for years. It’s only an issue now as it’s Man City.

[@cesarmoreno891]

It’s only wrong when you do this the correct way and perform at a high level. They only hate the Red Bull in Germany cause of the 50+1 rule. Everywhere else it doesn’t matter cause the teams are never consistently performing

[@abdubinyaameen6188]

More charges against man city

[@EliminationSquare]

Keep crying

[@AyoGringo]

He will be a baller (but needed a great guidance like pep or klopp)

[@mmmcounts]

This isn't changing without direct intervention and changes to the rules. The number of clubs under multiple ownership models has skyrocketed. The number of clubs is 4 or 5 times more than it was about 10 years ago, and the number of players under contract within some such system is more than 10x what it was before due to so many of these clubs having players out on loan in different capacities.

[@jpswartskaap862]

No one is stopping other clubs from doing the same. City group has been a juggernaut and the only way to stop us is with rules...just because other owners run their clubs so piss poor.

[@drdethdefy]

Thank you for showcasing all the other teams with multi club models that stand to benefit far more than Newcastle United and 4 saudi clubs.

[@robcoward6326]

Red bull clubs have been doing this for time but it's a disgrace when City do it 🙄

[@davidstanton4716]

The fair market value ruke already exists. Thats why Newcastle were closed out of signings in January