Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony No. 12: The Year 1917

[@jellosapiens7261]

A criminally underrated masterpiece.

[@gogotrololo]

just wait until it's in public domain, it'll be huge heh

[@user-he4em5zx8s]

I can't understand why this is poorly rated

[@DynastieArtistique]

Its not underrated, just good

[@Arwen328]

It is highly rated! It is first time I hear it is underestimated. Maybe among people why doesn't love anyting that demands high attention.

[@adorno_gang37]

anxiously awaiting the sequel "The Year 2017"

[@MajinOthinus]

I know, that's how I found my way here, I remembered Schostakowitschhad a Symphony about it :D

[@DanielSantos-qv3zv]

about 1917 not from 1917 guys but you know this right?

[@aidapaiva9759]

2017, 100 anos de revolução russa. Eu acho que foi isso que Johan Delvare quis dizer.

[@aidapaiva9759]

Qual músico vai compor "The Year 2017"?

[@harryandruschak2843]

More like 1956. And Crimea/Ukraine today.

[@LuisHumanoide]

6:54 Shostakovich had written a score for Indiana Jones movie before J. Williams

[@unnamed_boi]

00:00 - I. Revolutionary Petrograd 12:28 - II. Razliv 25:12 - III. Aurora 29:50 - IV. The Dawn of Humanity Performers: Neeme Järvi, Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra

[@beowulfschefing7697]

I have listened to this work for nearly 40 years now and I still love it. It may not be like the 5, 7, 10 or 11th but to me it still stands as a great Soviet era Symphony. Who cares it is still brilliant.

[@Altonahh10]

"great Soviet era"? What was great about it? The fact that millions of people had to die because they had a different belief?

[@dominicfiacco]

@@Altonahh10 He meant the symphony was great, not the era.

[@jijanew64]

@@Altonahh10 The Soviet era was a future that never came. That is what makes it great.

[@РатиборРодин]

@@Altonahh10 Ну для тебя то понятно чем она не великая эпоха,ни как не можешь забыть....

[@РатиборРодин]

@@dominicfiacco И эпоха тоже.

[@mateuszczarnowski531]

0:38 is blowing my mind! simple and beautifull.

[@josephfernando4867]

yes...i see what you mean...is it the transition ....

[@Nina-no8qj]

Mateusz Czarnowski I just got there and I almost gapped at the gorgeous transition

[@annalena6625]

this part is the reason I listen to this

[@Paul_maistre]

Anyone here from the Great War redux?

[@shashwatsingh6319]

Here ​@@Paul_maistre

[@christhorton6512]

I would say something but I can't right now because Shosty just knocked the wind out of me!

[@محمدحاتم-ل7ص]

اقول الخلا بس

[@kungfukenny592]

محمد حاتم شعب منتشر اعوذ بالله ههههههههههههههههههههه

[@BrucknerMotet]

His compositions have a tendency to "put you through the paces."

[@marcmuch3934]

The little bombastic passage that occurs at 8:43 is unbelievable power. Every detail thought of. Bravo Maestro Shostakovich!!

[@drewdumchus727]

It's very sad to know the majority of people only know Mozart and Beethoven; no other composers.

[@bhtas3006]

It's worse to know that the majority of people haven't even heard much of what they've written.

[@jvdesuit1]

You know why? Just because 1/ concerts organizers aim first to fill up the concert halls! 2/ Because of lack of curiosity of a majority of attendees at concerts. With Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky you're sure to fill up your hall with Shostakovitch you wont. Recently in Paris we were fortunate to have a full cycle of all symphonies and concertos of this immense composers. I was able to catch first category seats the very day before the concert and make my choice among several seats ! The performers were no less than the Mariinsky orchestra conducted by Valery Gergiev; the soloists were among other Gauthier Capuçon who made a incredible performance of the Cello concerto N°1, also Vadim Repin, Denis Matsuev!

[@jvdesuit1]

Ben Hall Ben I was referring to people who pretend knowing classical music. In Paris as soon as you program a work which is not a hit, concert halls will be half full! I remember a concert with the Vienna philharmonic where the first part of the concert was a work by Busoni for piano and orchestra (some variations on Norma's Bellini if I'm not mistaken) the 2000 seats of the Theater des Champs Elysées were half occupied. It's a lack of curiosity. There's a great channel on youtube by KuhlauDilfeng2 or4; check it out there are fantastic unknown or rarely performed works spanning from Baroque to contemporary musicians.

[@heatherferreira4225]

Equally criminal Mozart and the three B's being 95% of all that's played on classical radio. The coffee and elbow pads version of playing only The Beatles and The Eagles if ever there were. If they played more flavorful composers like Shostakovich, concert halls and public radio would have more listeners and better funding: period. This music is not bland and that's its power. Who truly wants to hear Eine Kleine Nachtmusik for the 48,000th time? Enough! Play THIS!

[@benpowell5007]

+Heather Ferreira WELL SAID! One work they should definitely play in a concert hall is Goreki's "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs", and underrated/overlooked composers such as C.P.E Bach and even Salieri (whose music is nowhere near as boring as one would think (and we have Amadeus to thank for that- even though it was well-made, the historical inaccuracies and American accents made me cringe). I'd love to see orchestras try and do this. I'm an avid concert goer, and all I see is Mozart, Beethoven, Bach (yuck!) and Handel. The most "unknown" work I've ever seen played in a concert is "Threnody to the victims of Hiroshima". Very powerful piece, but I could hear people muttering "That was not music" during the interval. People need to be more open-minded. The moonlight sonata is another example- if I were to play the third movement, a lot of people would probably ask "Who composed that piece?" Sorry for the rant, just agreeing with your opinion! :)

[@PrivateAckbar]

He influenced a lot of contemporary film compositions.

[@GentleGiantAudio]

John Williams and the world of film music owes a lot to Dmitri Shostakovich.

[@anonhippomermaid7477]

@@GentleGiantAudio yeah, when I first heard it I was like "okay, that was Star Wars, that was Indiana Jones, that was Harry Potter"

[@benjaminmenken5693]

You can totally here the inspiration in John Williams, also every Stanley Kubrick films soundtrack is heavily inspired by shostakovich, which makes sense because Kubrick was a huge shostakovich fan.

[@Nina-no8qj]

2:55 BEST PART GUYS

[@qEagleStrikerp]

No matter how often I listen to this, I can't help but get the feeling that more than only one or two Star Wars Soundtracks were greatly influenced by this ^^ I love this piece :3

[@tanmaytikle8521]

Thank so much two set violin for mentioning this piece in one of your videos You're really helping non music folks like me experience the world of classical music to the fullest ❤️

[@loisdeborah]

ling ling gang!

[@sofiaspiano7892]

Ling Ling wannabes

[@Offlinifly]

0:0 12:35 17:53 18:07 18:12

[@liamyates5716]

Cihan Özkan Thank you

[@donjuan5307]

Cihan burda bir Turk gormek ne güzel.

[@ThePianoGirlOfficial]

Best person

[@johnellard6015]

Moving, epic, and deeply evocative of the events in Petrograd in 1917. Full of heroism, hope and energy. An historical epic and truly beautiful.

[@GlenMcGlone]

Imagine thinking the murderous coup of 1917 was anything other than a tawdry bloodbath led by some of the most, venal, spineless and evil scumbags ever to draw breath. Heroism my arse. Spit.

[@osiantownsendjones2833]

Wow... the first movement was so much like the 2nd of the 10th symphony; constantly driving forwards, furious.

[@blindinglight7839]

This is real music. I swear.

[@iCubaZ]

Bach Beethoven Brahms listen to rage against the machine:D

[@zartsekel]

iCubaZ What?

[@SuperLumpyPumpkin]

last time i checked, Shostakovitch wasn't responsible for blessing us with the Fortnite burger, something that Travis Scott did single-handedly

[@baddestpro9879]

Ja wohl mein Herr

[@KazeSenshi2929]

8:30 omg this is awesome

[@j.vonhettlingen7112]

It's a challenge to listen to Shostakovich's "Symphony No. 12: The year 1917"! He wrote this piece only in 1961, 44 years after the Russian Revolution and 14 years before he died. Dedicated to the memory of Lenin, the music is loaded with energy, unleashed by the Revolution. Yet Shostakovich hadn't failed to pay tribute to the victims with funeral music, which also expressed the frustration and desperation of ordinary citizens after the Revolution.

[@Altonahh10]

Basically I don´t see Sh. as a political composer. He was a rather sensitive being and the reason why some parts of his compositions are so brusque and fast lies more in the fact that he felt hunted by the Stalin system and got under a lot of pressure by censorship and the question if and how he would survive a totalitarian system. His relief that Stalin was finally dead can be heard in his 10th symphony, probably one of the masterpieces of 20th century music.

[@dylanschmeichel2008]

@@Altonahh10 right, not to mention post Stalin Khrushchev allowed for much less cultural censorship as part of his de stalinization policy. Essentially he was much more lenient on constricting artists and whatnot.

[@РатиборРодин]

@@Altonahh10 При советской цензуре создавались шедевры,а с 90х при колониальном капитализме деградация.

[@РатиборРодин]

Простые граждане и делали её, а сейчас нами руководят ставленники запада.

[@Altonahh10]

@@РатиборРодин What´s your point - that Stalin was good for the arts?

[@hjposso]

Mahler's influence is impressive!!! Beautiful Symphony!!!!

[@maxmustermann-hx3fx]

36:24 I love this part when it goes back to the beginning and then the 2 minutes of only 5 1 cadence when you think oh now its over ... oh nvm ... oh now its over ... oh

[@heatherferreira4225]

Critics found this "unsatisfying"? "Unmoving"...? Then did they all walk out to the concert hall bar table just before 30:58?

[@shrillbert]

+Heather Ferreira To be fair, it is a fairly repetitive piece compared to some of his other work.

[@LoydAvenheart]

It reflects the man it was dedicated to. "Unsatisfying and unmoving" so it fits.

[@noddypeak]

I think it had more to do with politics than anything.

[@tikn2029]

9:59 so heavy

[@technik-lexikon]

28:53 this rhythm

[@j.e.8442]

Cada sinfonía de Shostakovich es épica. La 7, 8, 10 y 12 son sus obras maestras (para mí). Brutal genio a la altura de su contemporáneo y compatriota Prokofiev.

[@antoniocarlosantunesantune3217]

The best composer of century XX !

[@parislovesrachmaninoff]

GOD DAMN. This symphony is chaotic. Shostakovich really gave his all with this one

[@bod9317]

i think John williams was inspired by this masterpiece, damn this is so good

[@lionelmercier1]

Überwältigendes Werk!!!

[@josepmariarecasensgilabert8238]

Dmitri Schostakovich da un protagonismo a los instrumentos de viento y a la percusiôn. Sus sinfonîas son plàsticas y son verdaderamente como poemas sinfônicos

[@didierleroy6348]

Remarquable par la reproduction révolutionnaire et la représentation de l'âme du peuple de l'époque.

[@Paul_maistre]

Anyone here from hearts of iron 4 Great War redux?

[@Mr.Radekk]

Yes

[@Infantry61]

You know it!

[@baddestpro9879]

The dawn of mankind is really beautiful

[@MatthiasHRO]

This is a DG - recording, Neeme Järvi (conductor) & The Gothenburg Symphonic Orchestra (Sweden) ....... By far the best recording of these fantastic symphony..... THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!!

[@christhorton6512]

Thanks for the info!

[@Jpicsbass]

MatthiasHRO Hello, are you entirely sure? I'm not questioning your integrity, I just noticed a few people below saying that this is the Berliner Philharmoniker playing. I like this recording and would like to make sure I buy the right one!

[@matthiaslorenz-binondo6060]

***** Hello Jonathon, I insistently exclude all possibilities of doubt. I was grewing up with these recording, it is exactly the Järvi - recording. Recently I found this site: www.allmusic.com/album/shostakovich-symphony-no-12-the-year-1917-the-age-of-gold-hamlet-mw0001841613 You can check the sample tracks there. As I know, there is just a live - version here in KZbin with Dudamel and the Berliner Philharmoniker, but I think there is no professional recording of his 12th symphony with the Berliner.

[@garydavis9361]

It does say that in the description but sometimes that can't be trusted.

[@ECG3485]

This symphony was used as a soundtrack for Sergei Eisenstein's film "October: Ten Days That Shook The World" (1928).

[@evanwhite5704]

there seems to be a lot of different opinions on this but like just listening to it it's a cool piece

[@rbeckett791]

Epic, why haven't I heard of this composer until now?!

[@accaliamurraymusic]

Cuz he doesn't play obnoxious teenage pop music LMAO

[@heatherferreira4225]

Let me give you some more: immediately: listen also to Prokofiev (possibly Shostokovich's only match). Then Hohvaness. Then ALL of Ravel. Then Richard Strauss. Then go harder: Penderecki, Ligeti, Zimmermann. God there's so many... welcome aboard the Shostakovich Train! Let Dmitri lead you the rest of the way!

[@seppseppel4716]

penderecki and ligeti is a festering cancer growing in what people call music

[@temporality_]

@@heatherferreira4225 Rachmaninoff, listen to Rachmaninoff.

[@viperswhip]

@@heatherferreira4225 Saint-Saens, but pretty much for Danse Bacchanales but he's pretty good as well.

[@supernova1969]

To me, since I heard it first time in 1973, it was the best

[@ПавелПодъячев-т2х]

Я встречал критический отзыв об этой симфонии, будто она написана без какого-либо вдохновения. Эта - моя любимая наряду с 7-й. Если такая музыка могла быть написана без вдохновения, то какова цена вдохновению большинства современных авторов?

[@Barutika]

А как же музыка к фильму "Падение Берлина"?

[@ПавелПодъячев-т2х]

Василий Пантюшенко Немного не понял. Да я и не знаю, что за там музыка. Сегодня есть несколько гениев, включая Джона Виллиамса. Разве я против всех современных авторов?

[@zartsekel]

Этот "критический отзыв" был случайно не от Чубайса?

[@Karpple]

Pieza maestra que recoge el espíritu de 1917! -Masterpiece that collects the spirit of 1917!

[@steventiger880]

I have always thought that the main problem with this symphony is that it follows the 11th, a work of staggering brilliance and overpowering drama. On its own terms, the 12th is a fine work (save perhaps for the overblown final moments), but it shares the same historical theme--a struggle against tyranny--as the 11th, which is simply a greater work.

[@aguador67]

I think also that was a Party "demand", because after "1905" it was necessary to compose a work to "explain the Revolution's triumph". Live under Communism is well "explained" by the following symphony, the 13th.

[@РатиборРодин]

@@aguador67 Лучше, с 90х мы живём хуже.

[@marcosuluaga8358]

Schostakovic definitivamente es el compositor de la epicidad. Grande!

[@6G9S06]

So I was looking to kind of like March Slav Tchaikovsky symphony or a symphony of mozart and FINALLY I discovered another gem!

[@TheKANONS]

..Αυτήν την εποχή δουλεύω τη Δωδέκατη Συμφωνία μου. Μερικοί από σας ίσως ξέρετε ότι το 1957 έγραψα την Ενδέκατη Συμφωνία μου με θέμα την πρώτη ρώσικη επανάσταση. Πριν ακόμα την τελειώσω, άρχισα να σκέφτομαι τη συνέχειά της, και έτσι συνέλαβα τη Δωδέκατη Συμφωνία μου, αφιερωμένη στη Μεγάλη Οχτωβριανή Σοσιαλιστική Επανάσταση. Έχω ήδη γράψει τα δυο από τα τέσσερα μέρη και σε δυο τρείς μήνες ελπίζω να είναι έτοιμο ολόκληρο το έργο. Μια και το πλάνο μου για τη συμφωνία είναι αρκετά διασαφηνισμένο, μου επιτρέπετε να πω δυο λόγια για το περιεχόμενο του έργου και για τις σκέψεις που με κατείχαν όσο το δούλευα. Να γράψει κανείς μια συμφωνία για την Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση είναι, φυσικά, μεγάλη υπόθεση. Θα χρειαστεί να επιστρατεύσω όλη μου τη δύναμη και όλες μου τις δυνατότητες αν θέλω να ανταποκριθώ έστω και λίγο στο μέγεθος και τη σημασία του θέματος. Φυσικά, όταν γράφεις μία συμφωνία για την Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση, η εικόνα που ξεχωρίζει είναι αυτή του μεγάλου ηγέτη της εργατικής τάξης, του Βλαντίμιρ Λένιν. Επομένως, η συμφωνία θα είναι αφιερωμένη στη Μεγάλη Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση και στη μνήμη του Λένιν. Όπως είπα, η συμφωνία θάχει τέσσερα μέρη. Το πρώτο το αντιλαμβάνομαι σαν μια μουσική αφήγηση με θέμα την άφιξη του Λένιν στην Πετρούπολη τον Απρίλη του 1917 και τις συναντήσεις του με τον εργαζόμενο λαό της πόλης. Το δεύτερο θα περιγράφει τα ιστορικά γεγονότα της 7ης του Νοέμβρη. Το τρίτο θα μιλάει για τον Εμφύλιο Πόλεμο και το φινάλε για την τελική νίκη της Μεγάλης Οχτωβριανής Επανάστασης…. Είναι δύσκολο να μιλάς για τα δικά σου έργα, όμως το θέμα της νέας συμφωνίας με συγκινεί ιδιαίτερα, και μου φαίνεται ότι αυτό το έργο θα είναι σπουδαίο ορόσημο στην εργογραφία μου. Του δίνω μεγάλη σημασία. Από πού αντλώ την έμπνευσή μου γι`αυτό το υπεύθυνο καθήκον; Παραβρέθηκα στα γεγονότα της επανάστασης, ήμουνα ανάμεσα στο πλήθος που άκουσε τον Λένιν να μιλάει μπροστά στο σταθμό της Φιλανδίας τη μέρα που έφτασε στην Πετρούπολη. Και παρόλο που τότε ήμουν πολύ νέος, αυτό χαράχτηκε για πάντα στη μνήμη μου. Και βέβαια, οι αναμνήσεις μου απ` αυτές τις αξέχαστες μέρες με βοηθούν στη δουλειά μου πάνω στη συμφωνία.9 Μουζικάλναγια Ζιζν, Νο 21, 1960 --- ΝΤΜΙΤΡΙ ΣΟΣΤΑΚΟΒΙΤΣ για τον ίδιο και την εποχή του σελ. 265-266 εκδ. ΣΥΓΧΡΟΝΗ ΕΠΟΧΗ---

[@infinitesorrows21]

Obviously this piece is referring to the 1917 revolution of the Bolsheviks Such a fitting piece

[@wesleyfilms]

I've been using this as background music while doing my work.

[@gcvisse]

un immense chef d'œuvre

[@nicolascoxon8564]

Along with Symphony No 15, my two favourite of DSCH's symphonies. Whether or not one agrees with the historical dedication behind it, it is in my view a fabulous symphony. Of course, the composer himself didn't agree. He wrote: 'It is terrible....."

[@mikeygmm]

Beatiful! Thank you, much!

[@peterluth]

La 12a è la più complessa di tutte le sinfonie di S e la più fantasiosa.

[@ogredad55]

Thanks so much for posting. God bless you! Bob

[@Historiarct]

Remarkable, Breathtaking..

[@백낙현-c9l]

It might have been being underestemated in capitalized nations due to its title. The best ever I think..

[@crazyelliexxxx23]

INCREDIBLE!!

[@rodrirom305]

Dmitri Dmítrievich Shostakóvich (1906 - 1975) Sinfonía nº 12, Op. 112 "El año de 1917", En recuerdo a Vladímir Ilich Lenin. 1961 (Esta controvertida dedicatoria aún es estudiada por musicólogos y politólogos, pues no se sabe con certeza si fue impuesta o no al compositor por parte del ese entonces régimén soviético) I. La revolucionaria ciudad de Petrogrado (Moderato - Allegro). II. Razliv (Adagio). III. Aurora (Allegro - scherzo). IV. El amanecer de la Humanidad (Allegro - L'istesso tempo).

[@suelaker7618]

Really enjoying rehearsing this epic symphony with the Southampton Concert Orchestra for 10th June at Romsey Abbey. We're not as good as this lot, but I'm loving getting to know the piece so much better by playing it!

[@TankTaur]

Yes! Fantastic! More one-video symphonies, please!

[@ren_popp]

The cymbals at 28:33 scared me so bad I screamed and fell out of my chair.

[@RaySpartan315]

I know right? Gave me a good scare.

[@Gonche64]

BEAUTYFUL !

[@estellered]

Thank you.

[@Paul_maistre]

When I play hearts of iron 4 on Great War redux this is my favorite track in the game

[@echoenigma145]

love this piece!

[@mikeygmm]

Dimitri Shostakovich, memory eternal!

[@Lunilovegood]

holy shit. this is just glorious

[@norbertkeglovits9175]

from Austria danke schön 👍🤓

[@aju1912]

It's just amazing

[@juliodiaz1263]

Si los mejores comentarios de esta genial pieza han de contener todo el odio y la ignorancia que expresa el odio anticomunista es para pensárselo. 1917 cambio la Historia y Shostakovich y su música son expresión de todo aquello que rompe con los cánones burgueses

[@timeoftheend9516]

3T song Why__ beginning -- violin 0:45

[@BrucknerMotet]

16:20 getting some Aram Khatchaturian vibes (i.e., the slow introductory theme from his Gayane ballet (as featured by Stanley Kubrick in his film 2001))

[@mammiemartinthereundermike9680]

Skvělé!!!

[@DavidJGillCA]

This is a much overlooked work. It's darkness and severity are off putting to some, and along with Symphony No. 11, its Bolshevik revolutionary subtitle has put off Western audiences. Both are personal favorites.

[@cjparker25]

PHANTOM 2017

[@josepmir4530]

Today is the day you should listen to this

[@BillieDavies]

Listen..... it all makes sense ... :)

[@igornevesgumaraes3782]

Muito bom mesmo! Amei!

[@ceciliasosa620]

Agradezco a mi padre haberme hecho conocer esta maravilla.

[@FernandoGuilhermeLopesdaSilva]

Um Génio!

[@cicakbg]

His music best describes life in 20th century in Russia (CCCP)

[@mateomilkshakeman]

This should have 11,638,000 views instead of 11,638!

[@iambitchless]

Well, now it has 430k, but it should really have a much more views

[@joseletche8989]

olvide nombrar la sinfonia n° 7 , llamada Leningrado, otra genialidad

[@josephfernando4867]

Deadly...cant handle it...

[@drumdilly]

Get it Phantom

[@martin1024]

Wagner said the symphonies are dead. Then Bruckner and this dude appeared

[@daph0307]

Don't forget Mahler. He influenced Shostakovich.

[@JavierJulianAyarzaCa]

sencillamente maravilloso

[@sydneyvaughan3527]

Shostakovich is like if a “slave ship” from earlier movies met Star Wars. At any moment someone could be jumping overboard or engaging in a light saber battle.

[@jesuspardo6262]

Grandiosamente hermosa!!! No es para menos, compuesta por un Soviético.

[@Steverogers-s8k]

Medal of honor european assault and vanguard and heroes. Oh the classics operas. 😭💖

[@fredwheeler7433]

Drew: How very true.

[@fgfk123]

It goes in the right direction :-)

[@liltick102]

Amazing

[@joseletche8989]

uno de los mas grandes genios musicales de todos los tiempos .Gran narrador de la gesta revolucionaria del socialismo , lastima despues traicionado por uno de los gestores de la revolucion rusa., llamese Stalin y sus acolitos.grandes sinfonias de Shostakocich: las numedros 12, 11, 10, 9 , 8 y 5. las demas ,en toal 15 todas excelentes un parrafo aparte merece la n° 14 donde es muy posible que el autor se encontraba mjuy deprimido y compuso una obra teniendo en cuenta su estado de salud.

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

the Just perfect orchestra Happy Birthday Rob :) QC

[@solaci0]

isso é muito bom

[@RemorfChuket]

28:54 full volume

[@nataliasouzanati1657]

É realmente maravilhoso!

[@klematiszszimonettarose1797]

I heard the first 3 minutes somewhere already, but don't remember where...

[@Hyalthin]

Amazing! But is it just me who finds similarities with starwars music around 3:00-6:00 ?

[@MohamadAmerulZufar]

Clearly the composer for Star Wars was inspired by Shostakovich.

[@slateflash]

9:13 to 9:42

[@afrofinka]

About the performers, I guess the Berliner Philharmoniker is playing (>the sound of the stuff used for the cymbals and triangles...). But, sorry for the admirers of that piece, I will always have a problem with this symphony, because it's obvious that Shostakovich didn't put his whole soul into the piece. As Mstislav Rostropovich said, "when you play the dynamics exactly, it will sound ridiculous, because the same material is repeated, repeated, sometimes six times in a row (NB : especially the last 3 minutes of the score). It's like inflating a big bubble over and over again." I have to say that I agree with him, although I appreciate some very interesting moments (movements I and III), BUT the main problem is, because of the underlying political references (the October Revolution), this 12th Symphony suffers from a great lack of inspiration and "organic" balance. Other works (commissioned for the Party) like the "Song of the Forests", the "Overture on Kirghiz themes" or even the "Festive Overture" suffer from the same problem. Some people worship that piece, sometimes pretending this symphony as the best Shostakovich has ever written, but I would like to tell them : "What about the other symphonies ? Listen for example to Nos. 1, 4, 6, 13, 14 and 15 (I avoid on purpose Nos.5, 7 to 11 because they're really famous !!) and you will probably have a different opinion."

[@NotBroihon]

Listened to all of his symphonies and played 5,9 and 12 myself (trumpet). Repeating the same material a few times is nothing bad in my opinion. Look at the 7th symphony, 1st movement. About 7 minutes are based on the exact same motif. You can find similar stuff in any of his symphonies. It might be true that he didn't put his whole soul into this piece but it's still quite good. It's still my favourite. Maybe because I'm an ignorant asshole who doesn't care too much about the political background of this piece. And yes it's played by the Berliner Philharmoniker. Just another tip: You probably listened to Dvorak's 9th symphonie? Go listen 1-8. It's worth the time.

[@afrofinka]

About Shostakovich's 7th Symphony, I guess you're talking about the famous 'invasion theme' in the 1st movement. But, if it is, the difference is that Shostakovich uses a different orchestration for each repeat of the theme, involved into a long crescendo. In the 12th, he never changes the dynamic or the instrumentation (except the the 3rd movement 'Aurora' where the orchestration gets bigger and bigger into a crescendo)... About Dvorak, I know all his symphonies, and I know some of them very well (in particular nos. 4, 6, 7 and 8)

[@filipealexandresousa2087]

Repeation is not bad.....Depends on how the way it's done, if it has a point or not....He does it brilliantly....

[@kevinbyrne4538]

Ken Ubukata I would agree that one could omit several of the repetitions at the finale, and that movements I and III are the best. Someone said of Shostakovich's 12th that it was a film score without a film, which is how I listen to it.

[@ergjoule]

Now, that's a really interesting comment, because, listening to this symphony for the first time, reading this I naturally had to skip to the last three minutes, and... even completely out of context, sounded out of this world. Pure continuous invention is simply white noise. This is not white noise: I can't wait to hear the rest of the story.

[@lionelmercier1]

Ein Geniestreich meisterhaft interpretiert!

[@baddestpro9879]

Joa

[@thundermaker313]

Hey, KZbin, the Geico and Hero Wars commercials you stuck in at 13:28 totally paired well with music and didn't at all detract from the experience. Seriously though, I know you're using every available chance to blackmail/annoy everybody into buying KZbin Premium, but it's okay to give the algorithm a break once in a while and not be heartless chodes.

[@GuyKev]

the fact that they even allow those hero war ads make me always use an ad blocker