Dmitry Itskov on "Project 'Immortality 2045' -- Russian Experience" at Singularity Summit 2011

[@feblex]

Best of luck to this guy, i don't want to die

[@goalhorn2012]

No one wants to

[@emartin1990]

Dmitry ITskov, I've done it finally everyone is in a holographic state, Now it;s time for me to enter! -Hits delete button- Dmitry: Oh shieeeet.......wrong button...now i'm all alone....

[@doxide]

A few centuries ago we had no understanding of aerodynamics, combustion engines, space travel, atomic particles, the internet, and a thousand other concepts and breakthroughs. Thank god humankind wasn't completely filled with people like you.

[@unitedmerchant720]

This project will make us live forever, how can you not love this idea? This will change everything we know and this will make everything better. We can travel to unknown planets and beautiful worlds. We cant even imagine the great things will find and discov

[@PodiatricRFA]

The key to Eternal Life in this world is simple. NO WORSHIP, NO SLAVES. The guy who figured out what the Bible was saying about all the dead are inside of the Sun and how to avoid death sold me his book with the info for 25 bucks. He is an former US Marine who speaks perfect English.

[@halfhalo33]

Being immortal does not mean to play "God." Can't wait to see all the butthurt people going to respond to this...

[@ls7225]

That is true, I just want to be immortal so my mother wouldnt die.. I couldn't imagine what would happen if she died, I'd do anything to bring her back, or keep her alive.

[@leodennewman3440]

A lot right now. THE CREEPIEST CONSPIRACY OF 2018 kzbin.info/www/bejne/goC7gWOGg9GAmac I think it's strange it is a conspiracy. Studying how to converting the consciousness is like understanding the matrix. How does the question change to, are in the matrix already?

[@Vini-BR]

The point of existence is... itself. This is where all the why-questions come to an end. Because we, sentient beings, are able to: enjoy. And this is all about. I'm enthusiast about immortality and transhumanism, but you're damn right I'd spend centuries (or no matter how long) in a semi-biological body in pursue of a way to move back to an organic body; This time, an immortal one. I'd upload my memories to a safe machine (where my DNA would already be stored) once in six months just in case...

[@goalhorn2012]

Nice thought

[@ChrisGoesChaos]

@dreamVN Btw: Earth's population is already growing exponential wich means there won't be enough space for all of us anyway.

[@xneo19]

I hope this project will go down. And science will work into providing necessary needs to humans with the preservation of resources, healthy natural food supplies for everyone, and have resource justice around the world.

[@BlueBalloon97]

next time watch the entire video. he said that it will be available to all people who want it. billionaires and governments have enough to help fund them, doesnt mean only they get to have it

[@VovixLDR]

@dreamVN Well, absolute immortality in our universe is still a question. But suppose it it possible, why to be afraid of life? Of being able to avoid death avery time, and wishing to avoid it?

[@InfoBl4de]

And are we also supposed to think that these technologies are not going to be weaponised? Every advancement in tech that mankind has ever achieved has been weaponised, yet we're to expect that this won't?

[@mylifeincanada9949]

this is the step for him to become 1st world president..thats his vision on that time

[@rajeeshsrk]

For more detail please watch the tamil movie called Mayavan in Amazon prime..

[@Jackie-cy1bp]

You will remember to get the individuals consent "before" They take part in your project or you could be in trouble for copyright theft. As for my own personal self? I DO NOT CONSENT! You get that right?

[@AI_01000]

I think the best way to reach immortality is by preventing the aging process by focusing on nanotechnology (nanobots) instead of repairing by stem cells, and preserving by electronic chip and cyborging. Think about it. If you replace brain for example (and you will definately have to) its not guaranteed that it will have the soul of the same person, and all the memory probably will be gone. Also, what about accidents, killing and diseases? Again, the answer- nanotechnology. thumbs up

[@ChrisGoesChaos]

I just got part of the Russia 2045 project!

[@dantesdaniel5850]

we will start exploring space.

[@djunior874]

I have a way around the whole 'transferral' thing. All you need to do is slowly replace parts of your brain with artificial parts. You will become it and adapt to the artificial brain. Then there is no risk of losing your consciousness.

[@ninjaspion]

Science can do anything. If the extinction of some is needed to achieve a greater goal like immortality, let it be. And not everybody needs to live forever, I believe that it would be a difficult thing to achieve and only those who deserve immortality should have it, like geniuses and productive people.

[@ZerosDream]

Every 16 years your body has completely replaced every single cell. Are you still the same person? Yes...

[@MrAdvancedAtheist]

In other words, the longitudinal study would have to have people who got the treatment in 2045 survive to, say, 2245, before it could draw conclusions about the treatment's effectiveness.

[@halfhalo33]

Mind uploading and cybernetics feels like a more realistic approach on immortality than Biological immortality. But Cybernetics will most likely prolong our life rather than make us immortal.

[@GlobalTruthNet]

as technology will forever increase, processes that will perpetuate our lifespan will start expensive, and become cheaper as we move closer to reaching the secret of immortality. Once it is found, our basic thoughts on currency and work will change because the limited time that we consider to get paid for is not so limited anymore. Other technologies will increase exponentially as well, and soon those billionaires will want immortal commoners to forever buy their products. All will balance.

[@thekurdishgirl6538]

Please tell me, did Avatar 2015_2020 succeed or not? How much would it cost to become a robot in 2045? Please answer my questions

[@Regs3000]

What happens when the power goes out?

[@AI_01000]

thats exactly what I was talking about..

[@styles7887]

thank you

[@npergel]

An error occurred during the mind reading, sorry the system will restart we are unable to save any data :)

[@TheJamesrocket]

That depends. If you replace the brain gradually, cell by cell, then you would presumably maintain the continuity of conciousness. But copying ones brain and replicating it in a computer won't, it will just result in a copy.

[@TheKingdomOfDragons]

hows your project going so far? have you thought of a place for such people to live as a safe haven from haters? do you have a forums going to start on the earning trust from such that would be interested? let me know ^^

[@GuitarraMiguel]

All incarnations of the Avatar Project franchise deeply involve Paradox of phenomenal judgement in terms of full-body prosthetics. A recurring theme is the question of what defines humanity, if the entire body has been replaced by machines.

[@Investigator85]

Thank you

[@AI_01000]

by soul I meant consciousness of a specific person. Im not religious at all, Im technologist.

[@Dibujoton88]

Now things will get way interesting

[@ninjaspion]

So, you think that he did a good presentation?

[@ninjaspion]

This is how we move towards the construction of GLaDOS

[@malwick3106]

I have beliefs, I won't deny that but this isn't about beliefs. This is about being human. Yes we invent machines that replace broken limbs and even keep some of us alive, but you are still more human then machine. Where do we draw the line and stop being human? Why do we want to be immortal but no longer ourselves. No longer the person we were born. I would never want to be immortal if it meant I had to wake up every morning and realize I am not myself anymore but a machine made to be me.

[@MrMasterJoe]

What this guy is trying to achieve is not really necessary. We already ARE immortal. Birth and death are mere transitions into and out of this reality frame. It's true we can't currently stay in this part of reality forever. But do you really want to? I believe there is a reason for these transitions to occur and nature does know very well why it's happening. That being said I do believe that some day there might be some kind of consciousness technology allowing such transitions to be executed.

[@cribera1]

Making the body immortal is another possible way, but that that´s an OFFTOPIC, cause we were discussing the supposed perfection of human body. Our body is full of imperfections, that's a fact. Did you read talk.origins FAQ for a start?

[@MrMasterJoe]

There is more than enough evidence to suggest that we are immortal as not the physical world is the fundamental part of existence but consciousness is. Consciousness IS immortal. Our live here is just one episode out of many. Today's science has maneuvered itself into the "physical" corner but there are so many anomalies in today's theories that strongly indicate that there is much more to this picture than most scientists are able to grasp. It's wise to do some research and get enlightend!

[@MatthewBendyna]

That's why we need to make sure people are aware of the risks. If people insist that they want to do drugs, we can't stop them. Prohibition accomplishes nothing but increasing the power of the mafia and black market trade.

[@AZURA888]

yeap, the avatar B will be a reality in a short time, the Kusanagi commander.

[@javichuyutuv]

The is no need to kill the original. It can be done partially. Imagine you have 1 neuron replaced by an electronic equivalent, it will still be you, isn't it? So imagine such kind of process, very gradually replacing your physical brain with an electronic one, no matter how slow it is, there would be no need get rid of the original. I hope to have explained well the example.

[@matThaHatter]

It's the Russian Christopher Walken!

[@Lifestream]

@MrCropper I don't see how he's necessarily wrong, though. It's easier to develop and sell a combustion vehicle than the Chevrolet Volt, which is a fine piece of progressive technology. Unfortunately, it has some short comings, and its far easier for people to jump on its current shortcomings than laud it as a blueprint for future technologies. It's not a perfect analogy, but I think it's true. Same idea with alternate energy technologies.

[@biggstankk420]

Anything is possible with the proper application of technology through the use of knowledge.

[@cs1maniac]

Transfer conscience? It sounds very sketchy, just like the teleportation theory. That is, once you are teleported somewhere, your atoms are ripped apart, and put back together in a different location... But doesn't that mean you died? The person on the other end of the teleportation device looks like you, has your memories, and everything else... But is it actually you? It's great that a group of scientists are finally trying to prolong life to this extent, but I don't like the idea.

[@djunior874]

When you are vitrified and frozen at -200 degrees Celsius so that you can be thawed in the future and healed with future technology.

[@dantesdaniel5850]

i will donate to this

[@rossmarshall9365]

You will never reach this goal , God Himself will stop it . We all will live forever because we are spirit beings , but it depends if you belong to God or Satan that will determine your eternal address ( Heaven or Hell )

[@odesavage9982]

You have no faith in. Humanity I mean if you wanna die thats on you but I don’t want too

[@3131agent]

will they ever know how to change a gene so like we can use telekenises

[@Eudjier]

What do you want to use telekinesis for? For fun? Conclusive blasts? Kill people instantly? Strike lightning? Curious what you want for. - doubt you need a gene to activate for this

[@cribera1]

"why shldnt 1 billionaire be responsible for an entire races immortality" Because no other man with power had the innitiative? What prevent politicians and other billionaires to enter the project, contribute and share decision-making power? If decision making is not shared, what would prevent them to start their own project? Most men with power, invest a lot in sports and entertainment, it's not like they don't have the funds available. Why don't they invest so eagerly in science?

[@cythixx]

"Trojan Horse Detected! System Shutting Down!"

[@dantesdaniel5850]

well have u ever considered the size of the universe ? it;s big dude i wouldnt worry about space.Space and time is always created and you can check that out.

[@kalikiter1]

ghost in the shell in real life.

[@skewerlawson6467]

on a side note watch the anime movie Fractale, its entertaining, runs on a similar but different concept. I liked it

[@Vini-BR]

Given immortality and its very definition of "eternal"... if the universe is not endless, so there's this problem for a far future: what now when we come to a time when all available planets and sattelites and artificial stations in the entire universe were all inhabited? This would then start being a concern, wouldn't it? It is not even unproven that you and I could ourselves face this question someday. =)

[@luxaeternae]

its 1012 and SingularitySummits videos arent 1080p

[@andyrooney12]

Alright, you are a Slavic person? Assuming you are, what do you think about Tajiks, Uzbekhs, Kazakhs, Armenians, Georgians, Chechens, and black people? Be honest.

[@AI_01000]

ok here on youtube everyone is a professor.. there is a special part of the brain responsible for self awereness. if this part is removed, consider that man is dead. what u suggest? to replace that part cell by cell? its not that simple..

[@TheDJKaotix]

Do you mean rich as in very wealthy with money? To me, money is irrelevant and the monetary system will one day be a thing of the past.

[@skewerlawson6467]

and if they do life could become a currency in the future just as oil is today....so many problems with this guys idea, and it seems more capitalistic than utopian. But i do agree with one thing dmitry has said: societies views need to change. There is no rich and poor......just people.

[@ninjaspion]

Immortality is an incredible promise, if someone can fulfill this and make humans Immortal, he can do whatever he wants! And he's not doing it at someone's expense, it's a study, a project, anything in science is valid.

[@MatthewBendyna]

I'm confused. What is your view on the legalization of drugs?:(

[@BenDowling]

16:27 "we insist that all out technical plans remain open". That means this is an open source movement, right?

[@MatthewBendyna]

If it were legal, not only would police officers stop having to waste their time with that kind of crap, but the people who do drugs could get the help they need without fear of going to prison because of it. Crime rates would also plummet.

[@Renactments]

If we are immortal... How would we live? Our supplies are limited. AND we will over popullate and probably start fighting eachother... Think it threw man...

[@user-uf1mv3li4q]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@skewerlawson6467]

one more thing...his under the assumption that consciousness can be transfer d, this is him saying we have souls, he thinks its something physical that you can pick up and place in a container. Since the dawn of science we looking for this form of "matter" which we got the idea from religeon--look we will never know that 1 for sure- so why not just find a way to preserve your current state of existence____as appose to finding ones soul then transferring it.....read below.

[@ninjaspion]

If you were qualified to do such decision... (I read your comments on this video and I can say that you are not)... I'd be happy to go to the ionization chamber, because I'd help science.

[@skewerlawson6467]

"1.the human body is perfect" "we age and die, so its not perfect"---i already know this, and said thats the only problem we need to fix, in my description--my opinion on this point hasnt changed. The human body is perfect but yes i do agree that so far it is only achievable by the elite. however this is very easy to get around, if we go as a democracy , we could perhaps create a bill that requires citizens to pay a % immortality tax. Im sorry but the every day person too can FUND the project.

[@Surkimus]

Nice. Next time though, Dmitry -- get a translator to do the speaking for you.

[@ninjaspion]

Generating AI from scratch I agree with you, our science is still not good enough. But the idea of Getting your brain and thoughts and "uploading" into an artificial brain, might be done. Our brain is like a computer, we just need to know which USB cable is the right one to transfer the data.

[@cythixx]

There is no guaranteed we ARE immortal. Because we don't know what comes after death. And thats why it people are scared of dying, because what if there is nothing after death? Than we're not immortal.

[@InfoBl4de]

The Spirit of God does not dwell in temples built by the hands of men. This is going to be the son of perdition we were warned about, man made in the Image of the beast.

[@VovixLDR]

@TheRadicalStartover Earth's population is NOT growing exponential anymore. Its growth rate is declining since 1960s. We are on the late stage of S-curve. This dynamics doesn't yet count radical life extension, but in reality, the longer people live, the fewer children they have and the later their children are born. So the best means to level out Earth's population might be (what a paradox!)... total immortality.

[@TheKingdomOfDragons]

will you even have the option of things like Dragon model? if i where to be one of those i would not want to be human Again but just because i would choose dragon does not mean i would be evil being dragon would be the best thing ever for me and i would serve well in helping others Just for making me that Humans and Dragons Could live in happiness If given the chance as long as we are treated as equals ^^

[@trybenga]

I'm all for immorality but this guy just sounds like a classic bond movie Russian villain haha, I wonder if someone else is pulling the strings on this - he doesn't sound terribly excited about his ideals

[@ninjaspion]

A bad presentation can make a great idea look like shit. A great presentation can make a shitty idea look great.

[@XCI5ION]

From my point of view, humanity has made many mistakes on earth with the bodies we where given, we hardly respect our own organic bodies that work tirelessly to support us though our endeavors and we do not even fully understand that machine or treat it with love. We have not been successful at making machines that are free from viruses. DO you think they can replicate that which has taken YEARS to plan and produce the human experiment? Not to mention many other issues about this idea.

[@Listener113377]

being immortal sure as hell must be better than being a normal human. right? i know i'd rather be immortal than human anyway.

[@user-hu9ft5qr1k]

Even if the topic is interesting Dmitry Itskov should pay somebody to speak for him. Everybody is not Steve Jobs.

[@MatthewBendyna]

So, don't you think it makes sense that governments should then stop wasting their time on the matter and focus on more important issues like people who run around stealing and commiting murder?

[@SnakeTamer23]

I don't know about you guys, but i like this idea. In fact I'll probably go through the program myself. But ONLY IF, they change the way these non-celled new bodies are supposed to look.. because i want to look like a human..or at least look like a human in a suit, like an...Un-weaponized IronMan

[@MsSunShine1]

Im so happy I wont be on earth in 2045

[@skewerlawson6467]

I had seen the 2045 project, and their ideas do not seem ambitious enough, I believe that from a technical aspect their ideas only create the living memory of someone as a-pose to immortality......i understand that there are many things within my explanations that are not clear, but because this plat form is so limited in word space, i figured the reader would understand the content through subtext. why shldnt 1 billionaire be responsible for an entire races immortality, what if they paten it?

[@skewerlawson6467]

ok im not going to argue the meaning of perfection-but i can make a comparison--would u trade all your limbs for prosthetic ones? and say its better than the real thing? you cant feel your skin, cant have sex, cant take a dump,cant enjoy food, unless they can simulate an orgasm- your existence is purely internal -and conceptual-Plato's allegory. P.s i think you think Im against body mods...... I am if its worse than the original.

[@TheKingdomOfDragons]

not sure i could really trust anything that is from a government do these people really come together on a forums or anything to test that these would be Good people selected to become something like that? i mean if anything all should at least be like a family or something..and to not just let anyone become one just because they want to be one so here we have a future idea of "Avatar" and another idea of "Cytran" (which the Cytrans we Are getting to know each other and become like family) ^^

[@MatthewBendyna]

We shouldn't have things like drugs and tobacco outlawed, only make sure everyone is aware of the risks of these things. Prohibition attempts to make a crime out of something that is not by putting restrictions on a man's appetite.

[@sguerrero1001]

So is he saying to put our brains into robots!? :O

[@kenstech]

Honestly, I think this guy is thinking too small and not enough about the implications of the GRIN technologies. The Singularity will obviate much of what he's saying. He statement about "bringing a new generation of scientific and technical elite" is one example. This is old school thinking. product and technical cycles are already too short to think like that. With the advent of the coming technologies, there wont be time for any "new generation" to come to the table. -Ken

[@AZURA888]

que bien un venezolano por estos lares, si pero yo temo mas que a un cyborg dictador a la tecnología que nos daría tal poder, ya que las IA ke harán posible estos avances no sabemos si colaborarán o no, ve aquí mismo en youtube este documental "el perfeccionamiento humano - preparando la singularidad". Es realmente una espada de doble filo, ya se ve que la biología no está dando resusltado y que la inteligencia de las máquinas progresa millones de veces mas rápido acelerándose sobre 2020

[@varnlestoff]

"Artificial bodies will be available to all those that want them". Really? I would like one, but It won't happen at a billion dollar price tag.

[@TheKingdomOfDragons]

well the way i would see it of God is it don't really matter what we are..or who we are as long as the living thing (people or animals) do what is good and that we continue to believe in him the body is just meat .. what we believe and how we believe is the other

[@51003Keander]

He sounds like a cyborg. Can he be the first to get new vocal chords and program them to speak english?

[@ninjaspion]

I would

[@CalumnMcAulay]

where is the rest of it?

[@AI_01000]

cell by cell? Then you have to replace billions of cells mate.. and theres no such technology yet..

[@DripStopShop]

snoooooore