DMT Entities, friend or foe? With Julian Palmer

Are the entities we meet within DMT hyperspace benevolent, or might they have a more malicious intention towards us? Are we welcome guests or easy prey?
In this conversation with Julian Palmer we discuss our own takes on what entities might be and how we interpret these interactions.
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[@WhiteNorthStar1]

Adeptus... Your finest podcast, you did a fantastic job of listening and yet putting forward your own perspective too. Brilliant :)

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Cheers David 🙏

[@pheresy1367]

I'm just getting back into listening to the psychedelic subject matter after taking a few years off. But MAN! Julian Palmer is SO great to listen to. He dares to address the "bad trip" phenom as (possibly) being "entity possession". I started tripping in 1971 when I was in 10th grade with older kids who encouraged massive dose LSD trips with virtually NO "trip killers" on hand except for an occasional quaalude. We were using Dr. Leary's book "The Psychedelic Experience" as our guide to help us navigate into the higher "Bardo states". It provided a "map" that helped tremendously. But at some point, I started experiencing those EXTREME "bad trips". It's 14 hours of pure HELL. And yeah, could be described as DEMONIC POSSESSION. In fact, it's the best way to describe it. You are literally fighting tooth and nail for possession of your own body and mind. I couldn't EVER discuss it with anyone satisfactorily. The "usual" explanations never sufficed because I naturally have a very stable mind with an easygoing personality. I am not a religious person and rely heavily on logic and reason to understand life in general... also I developed a strong meditation practice (which got tested in ways I couldn't ever imagine). But I would love to hear from others in the community, who understands this. I want to hear them talk about how they deal with this scary, and dangerous phenom.

[@shockalotti]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

[@hayleyblackburn1983]

"I can do machine gun torping, now I can kill anything really". LOL. For some reason the way he said this is possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard.

[@hexking3330]

How about when he told about the mental hospital in Brazil where they do spirit de possession work before taking in the patient. And how he shines when he tells that it's amazing how far, far Ahead of us in the west they are LOOOL

[@ukeedge2761]

Yeah I can't watch this dude. His ego is big for some one using this medicine

[@drumSick66]

Wow, one of the greatest interviews I've heard in months! Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Lskm99]

Great conversation. You’re a very good listener Rob. Keep it up!

[@RhythmJunkie]

A few days ago I took 120mg of Harmala HCI extracts and then a medium hit of DMT. When I broke through I was able to dissolve & create realities at will as well as transition between dual & non-dual states. It was my first time doing that but I’m pretty sure the entities and manifestations of our ego. So next time your in there see if you can change the reality✨😉

[@rosevalentine3082]

Glad you’re feeling better. Nice to see your face again 😚

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you!! 😊

[@IgnisPerseverans]

It's hilarious to think about how average people who have no grasp of what psychedelics or drugs actually are would think you guys are mentally insane listening to this

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

In all fairness it is a bit far out, so I can cut the normies some slack :)

[@IgnisPerseverans]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica lol true

[@jremodel9294]

Im older, 52, made dmt at home a year ago. A fire fighter about 10 years younger than myself told me I had to try it. Been sober for 25 years but in my youth did my share of lsd and mushrooms . Dmt , smoked sounded intriguing in many ways, especially in the short duration. Long story short made it, very easy. watched videos , some of yours were among them.. ALL say 3 big hits. Did that,, Wigged out, Thought I poisoned myself and my soul was leaving my body. NOTE, if you make vids on smoking DMT, you should say,, IF inexperienced , start with 1 hit , then maybe 5 minutes later take 2 small hits. keep the high low level.. There is a strong body rush , which I was not expecting. That along with the world that opens up , can be extremely shocking.. Watched a vid yesterday , a woman was scared mentally for 8 years now.. Given 3 hits, and wigged out, became petrified of her mortality and death. 8 years later she is crying about her dmt experience. Good vids you got, but you should drop a disclaimer in the beginning , dont do 3 big hits to start if you never did dmt before. Ive done 5 hits of acid many times, handfuls of shrooms, The speed and power of dmt ,,, was not prepared for, at all.. Just a suggestion Getting to the topic at hand.. Did dmt a little over a year ago at 51. thought i killed myself , soul leaving etc,, keeping the situation short.. I was still rattled a couple hours later.. Was watching TV, a calmness descended on the room, a calmness descended on me,, Telepathic instructions came into my brain on how to properly approach DMT and he worlds beyond.. "It" said,, do 1 hit, lay back, close your eyes, relax,, Then it said take 2 hits relax,.. said you need to ease your yourself into the other side. So went from , kind of scared and freaked out about dmt, swearing Id never touch again to , having info downloaded into my brain and me becoming calm nd at peace.. So I followed its instructions, Started slow,, Then when I did 3 big hits , the body rush happened and the eyes closed world unfolded I was prepared . This " guardian spirit" or whatever it was with me for 3 hours of continuous multiple trips that evening.. Kept saying in my head,, stay calm, you are ok,, breath,, kept repeating that mantra to me . On each trip it even explained to me things I was seeing. . Very awesome feeling . That guide was only with me that one evening. I was sober when it first came to me. explained how to gently ease my mind into the dmt world. its like these spirits, things you encounter often do not even resemble anything biological, very machine like , but not even resembling humanoid form.. Like a conscious mechanical pyramid.. All "things" I have encounter seem positive, happy to see me. One wasnt happy, seemed irritated I invaded its space. ejected me down a wormhole . I was told there are being on much higher levels than myself . Things I can never ever comprehend.

[@jremodel9294]

Im older 52, tried it a year ago. and like most when you do dmt, you have to talk about.it. I tell people my trips , try to get them to try it,, no takers , And yes they probably think i sound kookoo. Im old , I dont care what people think. Caring what people think is for young people. I guess not caring is one of the benefits of getting older

[@miheadhurts]

@@jremodel9294 cool story, what was your base ingredient when making it?

[@paulmartinlife]

My perception is that the entities present externally as a manifestation of my internal (psychological) state - a combination of both of your perspectives.

[@chalinothebest]

PFFF the amount of invaluable information is this video is amazing, this is pure GOLD Thank you for uploading such a great content

[@janetjacks3406]

This is a philosophical discussion and really respect Julian's perspective which seems to be aligned to the animistic cosmology, which I suspect is something we are naturally going to go back to. It seems to me we are in a crisis of meaning and the Cartesian/materialistic paradigm is currently being challenged by the expansion of consciousness. It's the same question around NDE's which have been thoroughly explored by the esteemed Peter Fenwick which present many strong reasons to validate the reality of these. I am very prone to entity experiences, in dream states also, meeting the mushroom being lately, not so keen on this male kind of energy, much more comfortable with mother aya who has been very gentle with me.

[@vinny5638]

How do you think society will adjust to this crisis of meaning, by relying more on self exploration from these types of experiences or something different? I see a lot of my younger peers going many different routes spiritually but many of them are abandoning monotheistic beliefs for more of an animism based approach

[@janetjacks3406]

@@vinny5638 It's understandable that your peers are abandoning monotheistic beliefs, I mean religion hasn't exactly been fulfilling that's for sure. I suspect the more they enter these none ordinary states the more animism will gain traction and perhaps we are going to have to navigate this new terrain and figure out exactly what it means to us.

[@daisuky2693]

Quite an interesting conversation to listen to

[@jerrickplaine2605]

You gents are great this podcast was excellent.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad you enjoyed it 🙏

[@karynagibson05]

Missed you Rob, good to see you! ❤

[@kazaakas]

I commend you for conducting this conversation so smoothly. Especially having watched your previous videos on "woo woo" prior. I have a long background in neuroscience and scientific methodology, also work in IT, and it would be very difficult for me to have a discussion about topics this far out. If I would try, I'd just be so distracted by what parts of the rationale I'd disagree with, I just wouldn't know what to say.

[@dhaktizero4406]

around 33min in, i agree, when they get real close they can read you like a newspaper, rifling through memories and experiences like burglars, it's not settling at all. 42min in, sweet lethe, the water break of memory. 45min in, sound is a fundamental element, since in only-informationland communication is king, and music cannot lie, it must dance apparent. 52min in, yes, the universe is all the opposites, the terrible side of awe, awe-full, and the endless wonder of awe-sum, the closer to the nondual truth the more terrifying to identity it becomes even though the unity is the most attractive thing ever dreamt of, because it was, and is a memory, an echo that orders everything in the individual life to let you out to play in this elysium and yet long for home, sweetly, faintly, in the mystery of the night forest. 61min in, had a few panic-seizure events on acid and couple times on real good weed, (back when i was a noob), and they were terrifying, mostly to others, but also incredible jagged psychedelic moments, until finally i fell in the bathroom. i missed the tub, sink, and toilet, and somehow fixed my previously injured back when i emerged from the seizing... they all previously initiated with graphic visuals of imagined personal injury, too. 70min in, the jaguar outside the hut, is there or not, for each one individually, invisible to others, shaman or not. the confrontation is yours and yours alone, to wrestle the jaguar, to engage its game, understanding all the while it can tear you to shreds at any time. as terence said, nature loves courage. the shamans songs and incense and wands and dancing all contribute to getting the jaguar calmed down, if and when your fear has raised it's demon-hackles. those acts all conform the experience to the will of the participants collective intents, taking control of the environment, respectfully, one hopes. 86min in, by any means romance your delusions, but its all just a magic ball, cinderella... 91min in, psychedelics as consumer products, is a divide by zero, does not compute. as a service, if its done right, might be just fine. but taking the time to grow them yourself, to get to know them, slowly, is best if you're serious in trusting these plants and their agendas to order your chaotic life. excellent interview thank you

[@carolinewells4355]

yes completely agree with growing them yourself. Since growing them for myself, nurturing them, checking on there livelihood, and infusing them with my vibe and intention definitely bonds you long before ceremony. I have absolutely no fear going in “The real of the real” with my homegrown organic technology. Stop the War on 🍄Vegetables🍄 America!

[@denzali]

The mind creates a huge world of characters because that is its experience. I dream characters and places every night, on DMT I do the same but with utterly devastated machinery.

[@TommyLikeTom]

26:11 "Nowday's I go into battles with these entities and I'm killing them" talk about burying the lead. You should clip that and move it to the beginning of the video

[@carolinewells4355]

Ive been waiting for this exact topic. Thank you 🙏

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@sibzilla]

My experience with entities is that as incredible and magnificent as some are, they seem to be completely unaware of what they do and why they do - they just have a role to play, and I think they are a bit like proteins and viruses - autonomous robots that seem to have a kind of overall balance. Some know great things and can offer huge wisdom, while others feel incredibly potent and can be easily startled and yet the little tricky buggers just seem to have psychedelic ADHD. But for sure, they are part of the wider reality that most of us don’t get to experience and I really think that, as humans, we wouldn’t be able to handle all of reality without our minds failing. Maybe we can with practice and surrender but I’m not totally sure. Any time I explore new dimensions or realms I’m aware it’s always just a fraction at a time.

[@WatchWhileHigh]

"My experience with entities is that as incredible and magnificent as some are, they seem to be completely unaware of what they do and why they do - they just have a role to play, and I think they are a bit like proteins and viruses - autonomous robots that seem to have a kind of overall balance. Some know great things and can offer huge wisdom, while others feel incredibly potent and can be easily startled and yet the little tricky buggers just seem to have psychedelic ADHD. But for sure, they are part of the wider reality that most of us don’t get to experience and I really think that, as humans, we wouldn’t be able to handle all of reality without our minds failing. Maybe we can with practice and surrender but I’m not totally sure. Any time I explore new dimensions or realms I’m aware it’s always just a fraction at a time." - solid comment, thank you!

[@EvenStar303]

Why don't you ask a them what they are and where they are in relation to us???

[@D.M.T]

This looks great!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I hope you enjoy it 🙂

[@D.M.T]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica man I really did. Though the demonic entity theme kinda scared me! Your channel is fantastic.

[@stefanolacchin4963]

I'm not convinced that entities must be real just because they feel more real than real. The world we perceive when we're sober isn't the real world. It's a reconstruction we allucinate based on the inputs we get from our senses. It makes sense that pure imagination, unfiltered and unbiased by the imperfect input of our senses feels more real that that. The only thing that keeps me doubting, is that I don't know how could I ever come up with stuff so alien and unrelated to anything I've ever experienced. If our mind is that weird, it's amazing really.

[@dimitrishow_D]

At the start of my dmt adventures I def thought some evil shit was going on...like i often felt like I was being drained..

[@dimitrishow_D]

He does have a deranged look in his eyes that makes me feel he whent off the deep end

[@dimitrishow_D]

Also it's funny to me that ,making a sound would destroy a hyperdimensional being ..

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I guess the thinking comes down to something like everything is an expression of energy or a waveform. We know sound and waveforms can effect consciousness, even our physical bodies, why not a hyperdimensional being? Not saying that I believe it myself, but I can see where he is coming from.

[@dimitrishow_D]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica yes i can see that too, but still not really a impressive being than lol...has the power to manipulate beings from another dimension but then if those beings accidentally make the correct sound it dies lol..I'll definitely try it tho on my next trip🤣

[@bryandraughn9830]

Great discussion! I can't help but wonder though, How many times do you need to get completely blasted just to enjoy some personal growth? I mean, I chow on mushrooms once or twice a month at most. Maybe a monster dose once a year, and that gives me plenty to consider. What type of "progress" comes from such intense and frequent use? I'm not hearing much about continuous growth. Is there a goal?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I think this idea of a goal which is there to be achieved is a misfire. As a comparison then why continue having sex, is there any point once you have done it or have had kids? Why go watch the sunset once you have seen it already? The goal (if such a word could be applied) is to connect with your experience as a human being, and that goal never ends. Some people explore space, some people explore their consciousness, some people are fine as they are - its all good.

[@croneyr]

Really good video.

[@Steeplehammer1]

I like what you both pointed out in the "other people" section. I was really disappointed when I read through Michael Pollon's "How to change your mind" and there wasn't a single mention of entity encounters. So ridiculous to leave out what is probably the most striking element of the psychedelic experience. It does make me think that perhaps him and Carhartt-Harris hold back from talking about that particular aspect of the experience so they won't scare people away. Which I kind of understand, you don't want to derail the progress that is being made with bringing awareness of the healing potential of these compounds to the general public, or to attract ridicule or even cause panic, but ultimately I think it's criminal to downplay something that presents such massive potential for our understanding of consciousness.

[@relativeparadox9567]

I have no Idea what to think about that jester laughing and dancing in an empty room as a metaphor showing that there is no-thing but to me, all of this is modeling and speculation. Can we really know what these things are or is the mind upon return trying to grasp and reach for control as it spins it's story about an experience that was actually not for the it's benefit but reserved for something more fundamental within us?

[@ancienttempleofma]

Let's have these convos @!@

[@noblewolf9364]

saw the court jester once, but mostly galactic women. im wondering if the creator is actually female. she's super cool and beautiful.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

A lot of people report a strong female or maternal feeling during these experiences, with mescaline supposedly having more of a masculine feel to it. Personally I don't get this often, but I have had a few trips that leaned towards that feminine archetype.

[@MrBalthazar78]

I really dig this guy!

[@novkorova2774]

Are you going to make a video on HPPD? Or have you already? Haven't been able to find it if so, and it is a very important topic often ignored.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Its not something I have covered so far because I don't have any personal experience of it, but if it ever occurs to me then I will be sure to talk about it.

[@doggod07]

I've been living in Australia for 62 years and I've only heard about DMT a couple of years ago and that was via KZbin. Where do Ya Get it?

[@PauloBLKNS]

From natural sources like acacias

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

It might be worth you reaching out to Julian

[@doggod07]

@@PauloBLKNS thanks for the info but I've looked into it a lot. cheers

[@doggod07]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica cheers mate your channel is brilliant.

[@karynagibson05]

Try viewing the GordoTEK DMT extraction video for free on Patreon.

[@shrunkensimon]

I believe the DMT space is synonymous with the astral/mental realm. I've seen it as a child long before ever taking psyches, and have seen it through meditation too (it was slower and far more crisp). Entities are not wholly internal creations, again from previous experience as a child. I think there is an ecosystem and they fulfill specific roles that nature requires for motivating biological life at key moments, that can't be entrusted to matter alone. The problem we have is believing all thoughts are our own, that we enter into another space on DMT, when in fact we are always there and much of our thinking really isn't ours at all!

[@EvenStar303]

Almost everyone is possessed with or without psychedelics. The psychedelics make you aware of your possessions, so you can do something about it. Ayahuasca has removed my possessions several times before.

[@shockalotti]

Posession is pretty serious. I would say most people have attachments which are on a less obvious level affecting every day life

[@EvenStar303]

@@shockalotti Yes and some ppl can have 100s of attachments. My point was Ayahuasca can heal most of this.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

It sounds like possession is practically the norm. Saying it’s serious only makes it sound unfortunately & unnecessarily religious. 😂

[@Wh1sskey]

Would you say there's a negative aspect or something inherently wrong with doing multiple doses per trip session until you find that sweet dose? New to dmt, so far 20mg was the biggest, but what I mean is say, start the first try at 20, then 25 so on? I guess I'm just a tad nervous to plunge into the 30mg+ range so I was working up slowly.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Not at all, I think that is a completely sensible approach to any substance.

[@Wh1sskey]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica Understood, I think I just had somehow supplanted the idea that too much or too often could have some negative or varying side effects. Thank you for the quick response.

[@jremodel9294]

I do many trips in a session, 2 to 3 hours. Re- up every 10 or 15 minutes. Never sober up, just past the peak when my eyes open. still buzzed but sober enough to manipulate the pipe. Often I get maybe 5 hours sleep but the next day I feel great, no hang over. I dont recommend doing dmt everyday. should be treated with respect, with purpose. every 2 weeks or a month

[@teddysmith9578]

That is exactly how I do it. I make my own e-juice with my spice and I have a pretty big and powerful Vaporizer that is intended for nicotine vaping. Then I sit in my bed and sip on the Vaporizer until everything opens up. Keep the work my brother. 👍

[@TommyLikeTom]

They're saying that when you smoke DMT, the act of smoking is just an excuse, an illusion that represents the opening of a door from the other side

[@mikea.8617]

Trust the universe!

[@jremodel9294]

I think there really is a part of the dmt experience which is real . many similarities Ive noticed.. Starts with geometry, phases of it can be machine like , can be flowing, various dimensions , maybe having flybys of alien civilizations, seeing what can be described as heaven, interactions with things, even aliens.. I would say in general this covers most of the experiences Ive heard when people describe their trips.. Ive never heard , I saw mickey mouse, which i saw a 5 foot tall real as day mickey walk by me, say hi to me when I was in high school on 5 tabs. lsd was always cartoony for me.. Ive had a few profound spiritual stuff happen on shrooms in high school. Never anything spiritual on lsd though. Dmt to me and it seems man others , is or can be a very spiritual experience , One would think, if dmt is just a drug and all people are different , then experiences would vary wildly yet its actually the opposite. Everyone has different experiences yet they are also very similar.

[@Atomskiy]

I've heard that microdosind of amanita muscaria is very good for epilepcy

[@lobotomize9708]

Love this channel ,I want some of that smokable stuff though 🤣

[@manslaughterinc.9135]

I think machine elves is a trope and misnomer. They are neither machine nor elves. It's just a term Terrence McKenna popularized.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I agree. Personally I do not like the term as it doesn't gel with my experience, and also I think it locks people into a certain mindset about what they are interacting with.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Which is why I find Terence difficult to take, frankly. It’s both inaccurate and flippantly superficial IMHO…

[@EthanWinter-]

Hey Adeptus, I tried DMT for the first time since I was a younging n nothing happened...tried it again with an maoi n nothing happened... Any idea what's going on here? Did slight impurities in my extraction ruin the material?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

there could be numerous reasons mate. Bad product, bad vaping technique, bad extraction etc

[@EthanWinter-]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica hmm alright I'll retry my extraction then and purchase a vape specifically for this. Do you suggest a glycerin based vape setup or a mesh as the most reliable method to ensure I can trust I consumed a full dose?

[@EthanWinter-]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica I typically use psilocybin for bi weekly therapy sessions but hadn't been using any as I recently moved n was struggling to source material, shortly after my failed dmt experiences I was able to source some freshly dried cubensis...so I took a standard dose (1g) and felt nothing (typically even with a weak psilocybin experience during the digestion phase I feel light waves of energy n my perception of reality is altered) I then tried 2.5g and an meoi (75mg fb harmaline) and while I felt the meoi, my body had no reaction to the mushrooms I wasn't even yawning. So then I tried 5g and yet again experienced nothing (though my tolerance to cannabis seemed to drop temp and my ego was behaving as if it were on 1.2-1.5 mushrooms) I am lightly disturbed by this experience as I have been successfully dealing with my trauma and have been sorting my life out over the last few years with the aid of mushrooms. The concept that I am now locked out of being able to use these tools is a drag. From what I have read DMT should have nothing to do with a tolerance build to Psilocybin...but until I tried DMT mushrooms had been extremely effective, so its hard not to link this experience 😕

[@mraBJJ33]

Hey Rob! 👋

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Ola Ryan 🙂

[@dhaktizero4406]

Changa! Changa! Changa!

[@jremodel9294]

I prefer it this way,, straight pipe, easy to manipulate pipe by yourself. Did some last night. 50% tobacco, 50% dmt.. One bowlful lasted 20 hits. ,maybe mixed in 500mg. idk I dont weigh anything , have many grams of dmt in bowl. More than I can use. I been trying to give it away. Havent found one person in a year that has the balls to do it. Have a newish part time worker , 35 yo. Im 52. gave him maybe half a gram , He worked today, still scared to try it. Maybe if I was young I could give the stuff away, But I dont hang with kids or young adults

[@ancienttempleofma]

" I probly should have wrote more down than I did" I own that tooooo lol

[@EvenStar303]

It is not that if Psychedelics are inherently good or bad. They are a very powerful tool that can be used for good or bad, just like a hammer or a knife.

[@neoshaman1017]

Whats your favorite dmt extraction Tek and where can i find it?

[@jremodel9294]

mimosa hostilis fine ground, water, sodium hydroxide, naphtha . I dont heat up, Just do the initial mix with hot/warm water. , Used to heat up, with vinegar non iodized salt before prior to adding sodium hydroxide, Then even after place the glass vessel in water in a pan on a stove during the naphtha part.. Came out very oily. Not doing this, it comes out way better. More light yellow, more powdery vs oily. And more strong

[@Frankenstein-sc8rc]

this guy is amazing!

[@TrojansFirst]

I did 4 trips with Syrian rue and acacia and no beings. Never encountered even one entity. I’ve done about 20 mushrooms trips and no entities there either. I guess I need to try DMT. Maybe I’ll have an entity experience with the smokable DMT. Or maybe some people just don’t experience entities?

[@matthewmostyn5174]

That is correct, it’s said only 50-60% of dmt users have entity contact so don’t feel so bad

[@TrojansFirst]

@@matthewmostyn5174 oh ok, thanks. But I haven’t tried the smokable DMT yet so I haven’t lost hope yet.

[@321Doggies]

You could try salvia too. Use a low dose and slowly work up.

[@phishpondering8962]

How high was your shroom doses? Dosage and setting is key

[@TrojansFirst]

@@phishpondering8962 the highest I went on shrooms was 9.5 dried grams. My normal dosage is 5-7 dried grams always in silent darkness. I find it more manageable in the 5-7 range. I get all the great effects and benefits just no entities. You get entities on shrooms?

[@wutdafxup111]

I should record myself with changa. It's hyperspace with the loudest most rapid vibrations ever. Still can't believe it. Took alot out of me. *(I didn't shit myself 😉.....yet)

[@josephrudwick]

basically mental health or mental condition can be cured my psychedelics

[@timothymorehouse1255]

Can you make a how to DMT nasal spray 😁❤️

[@MrJasonwoodrow]

If we interact with them while on DMT, do they interact with us when they trip? 🙂 The stories of malevolent ones reminded me of a Buddhist book "Feeding your demons" describes the practice of chöd where I confront the icky thing (perhaps a childhood trauma that becomes personified) that scares me, not to battle it but to feed it myself until it is satisfied and transforms into an ally. I think this is based on the idea that it is something within my own being to begin with, rather than a separate parasite. The assumption that mental issues are "demons" has led to some very sad cases of people trying to be exorcists and caused actual harm, sometimes to kids. All the cases I encountered back when I was a fundamentalist Christian turned out to be classic manic/depressive bipolar folks that were trapped in a religious setting that expected magic answers to chemical imbalances in the brain. When doctors were able to help, all the thanks were lavished on that god instead, but that god did nothing until the docs intervened.

[@SuperFreedomRock1]

Yes I do wonder if these entites are manifestations of our own psyche that we can access - a sort of death-trip where our past and traumas are presented to us in various forms that we work through (and with). The Buddhist example is a great one, like shadow work, facing yourself and all of your dark personalities that manifest themselves in that dimension of sorts. I do believe there's something to "parasitic entities," but I'm not sure that DMT is the "cause" of it - rather it "shows" you your inner-mind - which is often what Mushrooms do, which of course is also a form of DMT. I worry about "smoking or vaping" DMT still, it seems the mushroom and plants are serving it to us in a more appropriate way, whereas so often I hear about the negative side of smoking DMT, where entities seem annoyed or tell people "they shouldn't be there" and that sort of thing.

[@ElyziumPrime]

A lot of people will not want to see Julians point of view because of Fear... i think he is right on the money regarding DMT entities. I arrived to the same perspective through enough studying psychedelics (I grow them), exorcism and a fair share of religious theology.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Well of course the religious imparts a certain bias… 😂

[@janetjacks3406]

I really like Aubrey Marcus's approach to this issue of possible detrimental entities as I don't believe you can be attached to if you are clear in yourself. I mean what does it matter, i've probably got 10 demons following me around, but if I heal myself then they will fall away. I don't go for the paranoid position of being fearful of something external, it's as if it takes away from the persons personal power. I also listened to Hamilton Souther who moved away from the astral wars scenario, fighting entities and battles, but very funny to listen to. I think he evolved into a different position about love which kind of dissolved everything.

[@spiritlevelstudios]

Yeh I agree. Hamilton is onto it, although he always has new battle stories, usually with other jealous healers though right. Craving, attachment, aversion and resistance all lead to suffering, right. And yet being in a state of surrender and acceptance while under attack from entities is extremely difficult and possibly dangerous. I mean, the only motivation to act and react with either defence or attack, is fear right. If we maintained a loving and peaceful composure then we could save a lot of energy. Maybe all entities are teachers and related to our karma, who knows. There must be balance, but it would be foolish to assign more power to the dark sides than they actually hold.

[@janetjacks3406]

@@spiritlevelstudios Yes Hamilton seems to be quite a dude, full of funny stories and I think has evolved the whole arena, perhaps this was his destiny. I am not sure I agree that attachment and the rest lead to suffering, which sounds like a Buddhist idea. You'd have to define suffering to start with. Suffering to me is when something has no meaning, that the person is out of touch with the meaning and also the feeling. Aubrey was interesting quite a few years ago and seemed to advocate complete surrender, but I like his attitude to this recently when he was talking about entities as teachers or just reflections of our wounds which is where they might take hold, which sounds like what you are saying and obviously wise not to give them too much power.

[@jremodel9294]

Fear is the mind killer,, I lived in an apartment for about 4 years.. Had a spirit there. Around every 2 months I would wake up completely covered in deep scratched , in 3's, so deep almost to the point of bleeding,, I have no nails , no pets at that time. Even I guess being attacked , I never got scared once, never gave it a second thought. The only thought I gave was how much it stung washing myself.. People talk of demons, which I dont believe in.. I think people can be dicks in this life and when they die and dont "cross over" they can exist in spirit form and are still dicks even when they are dead.. Not like its some demon.. Most places Ive lived had ghosts, current place included. noises , things moving around doesnt phase me one bit. Just seems I end up living in places where people died .

[@frankydapimp001]

16:00 mins in I agree

[@timothymorehouse1255]

That cool UK meets AU

[@bafflezbiz]

Wait, he zapped a big black spider from the astral plane and it vaporized into thin air? Is he still tripping? Or does he actually claim to be seeing imaginary creatures in real life? I just want to get a measure of how much "magic" or "woo" is being put forth here...

[@jremodel9294]

Did many sessions of dmt last night.. First time I interacted with things, aliens to be exact.. Another trip very bizarre. I go into this space. outside of a gold colored building. 2 people are speaking spanish.. mind you this is the first time out of 50 trips Ive seen a human or anything resembling a humanoid. Its always machines . 2 people speaking spanish, I dont speak spanish . the talking turns into arguing. Im just watching .. Next thing I realize ,, I am this spanish guy on top of another guy,, choking im or something on the ground yelling at him in spanish.. This goes on for a bit.. Then I realize ,, Im talking spanish , wtf am I even saying. This female voice calls out to me , christbol is that you, christobol.. I call out.. Isabella? Then she says I miss you. , I say,, wait , Im Jeff. She says yes but you are also my christibol. Im like wtf ,, but at the same time I had a memory of what she looked like . I came out of the trip,, um ok that was weird..

[@riseofmerlin3111]

Quite alot of people have experienced the same with Salvia. Living life as someone else.

[@jremodel9294]

@@riseofmerlin3111 Im older, 52. never heard of that in my youth/party days. Since then met 2 people who have done it. They never gave details but seemed it wasnt a good experience for them. My recent experience was weird, but not in a bad way. Just started dabbling with dmt a year ago. All have been good experiences. Thing is I guess is to remain calm and just accept what happens. Other than doing this occassionaly been sober for past 25 years.

[@pastamane7167]

probably experienced like a past life or sum

[@jremodel9294]

@@pastamane7167 IDK maybe.. many people have said I speak 2 other languages in my sleep. One is described as eastern European like and one is always described as "alien" by all.. whatever that means. But I do have dreams where I am something else and not on earth. I have never heard them since Im sleeping, But a few times I have woken up and thought, "was I just speaking a different language"? But as it the nature with many dreams I cant remember.

[@turbonbc]

Entities exist but are also universal reflections of you/mind. Once you realize this, they cease.. Buddhic Awareness.

[@turbonbc]

@Eryk Daniel I can access all these states naturally via meditation and shamanic trance. The mind is caught up in "mystical experiences". Its all about dissolving of mind and returning to presence.

[@JamesR23]

@40:00 ish

[@DjTatty]

so what if all this shit happens to you without taking any psychedellics ?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Not to be alarmist but that would usually indicate some kind of psychosis, and the recommendation would be to seek help.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Good question. Which raises the question of whether when ‘seeing this’ under the influence, it’s not just the same thing… (?)

[@ericfranchi1354]

​@@AdeptusPsychonautica...or seek an exorcist. 😝

[@EvenStar303]

The only time I had a bad trip on mushrooms is when I had very spicy Indian food prior to the mushroom. Went through Hell first for a few hours, but later the Mushrooms showed me that this very Earth is the paradise, that everyone is looking for.

[@VegAngel.]

The vast echology of inteligence may be due when our brain neurons are out of air, our intestinal neurons (second brain with 500 million neurons) project its own memory data over our conscience, and our brain tries to reproduce these gut-brain data converting into brain data and the result is something from "another world". Our heart neurons also stores emotional memory and stimulates the brain's creativity, so emotions can really shape real life and entheogen experiences. So I never explore my inner universe without strong purpose, faith and courage. The flesh is weak and I don't trust guts anyway ;)

[@MikeTooleK9S]

If you don't identify as your entities, your entities will be controlled by the people who do. its just animation via the imagination, as above so below, art history connects all

[@jamesstaggs4160]

"We'd only do that with a shaman. We'd never do that with a white guy." I sure can't wait until people stop singling out the white race with all this undeserved negativity. Even though throughout history all races and cultures have done all the same evil acts, but we've got too many people pretending they were white things and only white people engaged in them. Also the term "As a person of color" and "people of color" excludes only one race and everyone else is a person of color. The implied idea is that white people have no color and are therefore lacking and lesser than people of color. White people are said to have stolen everything they have, enslaved the entire world, are the only rave capable of racism, have no culture at all and even lack a soul. I don't know how many people have heard that supposedly melanin in your skin is analogous to the midichlorians from Star Wars. The more you have, the better you are and the less you have the worse you are. I had a hard time believing it was real because it sounds like a parody but nope, it's very real. Not wanting someone to facilitate a ceremony because you're not the correct race is just stupid. There's no reason why it can't or shouldn't happen. Oh and the "cultural appropriation" bs that I'm quite sure some people would try to bring up needs to stop. No one race owns any culture. Culture is shared when different cultures interact. You can't copyright it for just one race to use. Besides, if your race came up with something that others wish to take part in why would you not be proud about it? You've created something that others find value in. Oh and again it's basically just one group that catches flak for the not at all real idea of cultural appropriation. I'm very much against racism and were a different race at the center of a worldwide dogpile my thoughts wouldn't change one bit.

[@psilocypher]

I love Julian, however when I watched his debate with James Kent, I found myself not really agreeing with much that he said.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I haven't seen that one, what was the the topic?

[@psilocypher]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica The topic was basically whether or not the entities you encounter on these substances are “real.” You can find it on the Adventures Through the Mind channel.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

@@psilocypher I think you might be mixing up James Kent (im not sure who that is) with James W Jesso who hosts ATTM

[@psilocypher]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica I’m aware of James Jesso. I have one of his books. He invited both James Kent and Julian Palmer on his show to have a debate.

[@psilocypher]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica kzbin.info/www/bejne/a16smJx-rshmd7M

[@user-xw9ro6ge1m]

Adeptus, wouldn’t you say you’re addicted to dmt? If you took it daily for a month, it sounds like an addiction, no disrespect. I enjoy your videos btw thanks for sharing!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

If your definition of addiction is that someone takes something for a controlled amount of time and then stops without any negative effects, then sure - I'm addicted to DMT. For most people though that is not what "addiction" means.

[@user-xw9ro6ge1m]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica I feel like any drug you would do daily for a month could be a sign of addiction.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

@@user-xw9ro6ge1m like I said mate, you personally can define it however you want but that isn’t what “addiction” actually means.

[@user-xw9ro6ge1m]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica aight np

[@uberkloden]

To Julian, please leave peyote alone, it is not something to play with, it is our sacrament, for our ceremonies. Thank you.

[@kevinsedwards]

Buddy nobody owns earths plants.

[@kevinsedwards]

The plants are here for everyone. EVERYONE

[@Msenlightened1]

Hello so I’ve made great dmt and I’ve been adding it to my vape juice and it doesn’t matter how much I add I don’t feel it?

[@karynagibson05]

"Minty Love" has a way on KZbin, he will help

[@Msenlightened1]

@@karynagibson05 Thanks Karina!

[@karynagibson05]

@@Msenlightened1 You're welcome! If you have questions you can talk with him on Discord as well.

[@HoldenMcRoin69]

How do you know it’s great if it doesn’t work? Why add it to vape juice when a rig is the golden ticket

[@karynagibson05]

@@HoldenMcRoin69 I like Minty Love's Geek Vape Aegis rig using the stainless steel mesh! He's mastered the one hit breakthrough! 💯

[@zcar]

If you're smoking synthetic DMT mostly then you're not going to get the experience Julian is describing.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Sure… And you know this how?

[@josephrudwick]

psychology to treat the illness put the illness into psychology

[@christopherhamilton3621]

😂

[@willielast]

soooooo...i'm guessing you're into 40K?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Kinda. I was big into in my younger days, and I still keep up with the lore through the books and video games, but I don't really do much painting or playing anymore.

[@BigLivingNow]

I was doing "healing" journey's on my bed in silent darkness (grade 5 noise suppression ear muffs). Mainly using dried and dosed psilocybin, wild picked mushrooms. Was also using crystal dmt and sanpedro cactus but not on the bed "healing" journey's. The experiences started off positive, even nurturing, with perceived progress in "healing" my life and lifestyle issues. Then the experiences turned literally demonic, manifestation of demon archetype beings. Vomitting these things up and out, foam mouth, sulfur taste and smell and much more. Also trying to pull them out of my mouth. These manifestations became a constant theme and really very dark, in every experience on that bed in silent darkness. Something else was, I was getting alot of biblical content themes in the "spirit dimension". Like being a third person observer of conversations and narratives. Abraham and Jehovah and alot about angels, things I did not know about, as I don't have a christian background at all and had never opened a bible or been to a church. I would google these names to understand what I was experiencing. The experiences became very much a communication with angels and higher beings (which I now know as a huge deception) I have a prior history of practising vipassana meditation from age 30 to 37, so had that background seated in concentration of the mind and insight meditation techniques. (Which I eventually left and went back mainstream culture again for 10 years or so) On June 22nd 2019 (winter solstice) I was having another similar dark manifestation experience on my bed. Things went differently on this occasion. In a moment of surrender that night, personally knowing that I could not change myself by what I was trying to achieve, in the midst of more demonic attacks, a huge calm and stillness came over me. In that moment of quiet, a still quiet voice said simply this in truth, -- " to heal my heart I have to invite Jesus Christ into my life and heart ". I knew in that moment that Jesus is the truth, he is the son of God and an offer was being given me. So I did. With all my strength and heart I asked Jesus to help me and be my Lord over my life. I knew the healing that I was always trying to achieve through my life was in Jesus Christ. The great healer. The person of the bible. I knew I was a terrible sinner in sight of a Holy God. I repented for my sinning against Him. Alot happened that night. I started to pray a spiritual warfare prayer the next day which I found on google. Baptised 4 months later. I have been a christian and follower of Jesus Christ nearly 3 years now. (which I would never have thought I would be, at all!) My life has truly been healed and its not by my own works or self effort, but by surrendering to Jesus as my lord and saviour. Saviour from what? Saviour from being separated spiritually from our morally perfect and Holy Creator God. Who has written about Himself, through the hand of men in the bible. Read the Gospel of John to know the character of Christ. ESV bible translation app is free on your phone. Jesus spent a large part of his 3 years of ministry on earth casting demons out of afflicted people and physically healing them. The demons or evil spirits know who he is and tremble. The gates of hell will not prevail against the "good news" (Gospel) of Jesus Christ, who took the punishment for our sin on the cross, so we would not perish, but have eternal life. All you need to do is repent (heart decision to turn away from sinning) and take faith in Jesus Christ. You will have your sins forgiven - "healed" - and be born again a 2nd time, but this time a new creation by the spirit of God - a renewed mind and new heart. Its as real today as it has been the last 2000 years. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 " for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." The spirit realm is a massive deception keeping you away from your God and creator. Call on the name of Jesus and watch them flee. Jesus loves you and is waiting friends. IMHO

[@Lunarmemory]

So what you're saying is that psychedelics brought you to Christ. Thar is so cool. Can't wait for a mushroom/dmt/mescaline trip where I can face my demons.

[@gunnerkobra]

Similar story here. The moment you confront the entities they show they real face. If you ask them about Jesus they make up some bullshit story. But if you call the name of Jesus he protects you with his armor and cast away the demons. "For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness." 1 Thessalonians 5:5 Sobriety is a gift of God.

[@gr00vadelic]

It took me some serious trips to clear away years of Christian brainwashing. Interesting that your trip took you the other way. 🤔

[@BigLivingNow]

@@gunnerkobra agreed, the world's system and new age practices and beliefs are there to keep us away from the love and redemption found in Christ. Its so obvious and in plain sight. We want to be our own little gods and do it our way, pride before destruction. Hebrews chapter 9, verse 27: "its appointed for every person to die once and then the judgement" -- folks don't think themselves bad. But measured against Gods holy standard we all fall short of the glory of God. We wear dirty rags of sin, when justified by the righteousness of Jesus, we are imputed with the righteous robes of Christ -- our sin is covered by his sinlessness and obedience. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil and save sinners like me. Oh yeah, the entities hate the name of the biblical person of Jesus Christ. Not some false new age representation of him. There will be a mounted attack against you, that means its real so pray and read the bible. They don't want to let you go but will flee. In my experience. From darkness to light. The darkness cannot stand in the glorious light of the messiah, the Son of God.

[@BigLivingNow]

@@Lunarmemory you are opening more doors to deception in my experience. Don't wait, repent and take faith in Christ today my friend. I would have loved to live this life earlier. The thing about the psychedelics is people have to keep going back to it. I wanted out from all my vices ie, weed, pornography, alcohol, unsatisfactory relationships, etc etc. But in Christ I got given so much more. Hope, real hope, I do not fear death because I know deep in my soul where I am going, which was not the case prior. Forgiveness and love for others. Humble gratitude. Purpose for living. A road map for life. Healthy living. A community of good people. Personal relationship with my creator through prayer and reading His word. Christ lives in me and I love him. He is my rock to grasp onto in the stormy waters of life. At peace finally in my being. Forgiven. Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8. "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."

[@nicholaslines986]

Julian got slammed on the ABC 4 Corners report. Massive fail.

[@julianhappen]

What did you think about that report? Did it change your perception of me?

[@nicholaslines986]

​@@julianhappenit wasn't a great report, I don't think anyone came out looking good. You did get totally sucked into the me too argument...I bet the show producers loved that.

[@julianhappen]

@nicholaslines986 Thanks for sharing. Yeah, the producer and reporter are no longer working for 4 corners after that!

[@nicholaslines986]

@@julianhappen not surprising. We need positive messaging around psychedelics, not fear-mongering and fox news journalism.

[@joelhungerford8388]

​@julianhappen have you ever come across someone who has had dmt like experiences without having used dmt? I hsve had these strange dream like experiences (thats the only wsy i can describe it) where i will see entities, i will sense plants and trees bejng conscious. i have encountered both positive and negative entities. I have found that they (entities) are always vaige when they talk. Theres one entity who i have seen heaps ot times. He projects himself as either an orange ball of light or a lion looking being. Every time i see him he always says the same. That i need to focus on being more spiritual and to remove toxic things in my life

[@Jack-vm1fg]

It was really hard to not judge this person as being unhinged from rational thought.. and it only got worse as the interview progressed.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I dunno if I would describe him as unhinged because that would suggest that he is non-functional, which I think is unfounded. He clearly has some "out there" ideas, but he is fairly consistent in his those beliefs and communicates them clearly. It would be like listening to a shaman talking about plant spirits and describing them as unhinged. They are just working off a different model but I don't think its irrational.

[@Jack-vm1fg]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica "Working" off of a different model is OK so long as that model has some connection to a rational and evidence-based set of beliefs. Believing headaches are entity possession and seeing octopuses feed off of people isn't exactly that. If you don't like unhinged then maybe delusional is a better word for you. I know people like this in my personal life who smoke too much weed. Chronically paranoid and delusional but still able to function and show up for work barely

[@Jack-vm1fg]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica however I still found the interview entertaining. I like hearing crazy people talk sometimes

[@soma_trippin]

​​​@@Jack-vm1fgyou are very arrogant and also not very experienced or smart and thats not an insult bro, hopefully you will open your mind at least learn to respect other peoples experiences, you dont have to agree, but you use humilating arrogant vocabulary, grow up 😉

[@alans8181]

DMT is in every living thing. It could be a connection to God. But abusing it, opens the realm around us, that contains demonic entities. Repent, brothers and sisters, ask God to reveal his son Jesus, believe he is Lord and God and died and shed his blood for our sins and is risen.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Excellent bit of preaching Alan, I'm sure people are repenting by the boatload after reading this 😁

[@zugbob]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica I met Jesus on Ayahuasca recently, very unexpected. It was worth having a chat with him.

[@ericfranchi1354]

​@@AdeptusPsychonauticaNo one can rule out these are possibly demons. Definitely not you. Thats for sure 😁

[@CHRISTOS369]

Right when he said its more psychological instead of inter dimensional I stopped watching

[@davienadams9446]

Demons are not your friends 🤣 should be common sense 🙏✝️

[@jremodel9294]

why is that everything not understood by religious people is "evil" or a "demon" .. If demons do exists , god created them , and wants them in his creation.

[@davienadams9446]

@@jremodel9294 trust me once you get saved or delivered we all need it. Everything will make sense. You'll know God, Jesus, and the Holyspirit are real.

[@jremodel9294]

@@davienadams9446 I know all about the bible. went to church from age 1 to 15. christian school from 5 to 15. But about 10 I started to question it.. The age when many start to learn "common sense, rational thinking" . Jesus is irrelevant in creation and probably as real as Harry Potter. I think there is creator I just reject all religions. Humans are one step above chimps in intelligence so I highly doubt we can even can even grasp anything about creation and reality.. But if believing in ancient mythology makes you happy, go for it

[@jremodel9294]

If you want real proof of "god" smoke dmt

[@ZandriCarson]

They are as friendly as any wild animal; depends on which one and your relationship with it.

[@BigFarm_ah365]

I've been experimenting with DMT for over a year. Had some interesting visual experiences at first, but found it not possible to have a breakthrough experience. I had increasingly jarring experiences any time I went for a breakthrough dose which were disturbing at first, but after the shock wore off, I grew increasingly frustrated with the experience. I continued to enjoy sub-breakthrough experiences, but every time I tried for a journey beyond this realm I would have the strange, disturbing experience that I have never been able to describe accurately, but something similar to drowning in a cosmic soup or reaching the surface of the water and catching a breath when you were sure you were going to drown. I talked to people who also were denied a breakthrough and heard voices say that they weren't ready or something similar, but I hadn't gotten anything resembling even a rejection and finally went looking for some kind of explanation. And for a few attempts, it felt like I was negotiating with myself or whoever, whatever was preventing my journey. I started to sense that there had been some weird kind of mix up and I had a few times where I felt like I was given a full explanation, only I wasn't paying attention, like being a daydreaming student and realizing the teacher was calling on you for an answer, but you didn't hear the question. But despite missing the explanation it felt like something had been resolved and I approached the experience refreshed and relaxed and felt like I came so close to leaving this realm, but then something else happened and I'm not sure what that even was, but I essentially gave up on even trying. I started using it outdoors and communing with the forest spirits, dancing with the trees and having a grand old time with fucking crazy hallucinations that were very different than the geometric ones I'd had before. I was having a different experience than I'd been led to expect, but it was still great, only now the visuals have completely stopped. I feel a buzz, but no visuals whatsoever. Fuckin weird.

[@jremodel9294]

High dose sub breakthrough experiences have its benefits.. In these trips or on the downslope of breakthrough is when I seem to calmly interact / talk to things. Flying away is awesome too. For me more of a holy shit this is so beautiful moment vs interactions. One instance in particular,, I smoked a bunch, not my first trip that night. started out with brilliant mechanical geometry . started at a distance then came closer and closer. pressing in and in , I mentally could not take it. I opened my eyes , closed them again, nothing,, i was almost sober, and I was only a minute in.. I grabbed the pipe.. did 4 big hits.. laid back closed my eyes.. everything was darkish I could see pieces of what usulally make up the geometrical patterns ,, here and there.. it was like they peaking out of the shadows .. I heard wispering.. "hes scared,, we scared him, dont show yourselves" Just so low level.. Did 5 hits , again nothing major.. "they " wouldnt let me in.. I forced myself in after a bit.. I loaded the pipe.. took 8 or 9 huge hits .. no opening patterns , just shot straight out of my body , kept flying deeper and deeeper away into the abyss. All I can remember is saying over and over, thank you, thank you.. was so far away from being a human being , In a place very calm, sort of a gentle fluid morphing something was there.. No details remembered . Just remember that was the second most awesome place I ended up at on dmt.. The other I would describe as heaven. Even though I actually despise religions in general.. I was at a place that if I had to describe heaven it was that place.. But anyway after I forced my way in after they seemingly were blocking,, I had no calling or desire to do dmt for 8 months, despite having a couple grams . Just started doing it again..

[@carolinewells4355]

@@jremodel9294 very interesting 👍

[@carolinewells4355]

thank u 4 sharing🙏 I am fascinated by everyone’s experience.

[@dk5579]

Take acid then smoke DMT takes me to the other world I go to and no tunnel to get there. I even my first entity a puppet with a back hat and mittens on and was playing peekaboo with me ......you will get there man ...