British Guys Watch The CODE - Unwritten Rules of Fighting / Retribution in Ice Hockey (REACTION)

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[@freedy1696]

Tkachuk vs kassian is what it looks like when someone backs down. search "GOTTA SEE IT: Zack Kassian Ragdolls Matthew Tkachuk After Taking Multiple Massive Hits". In the clip, it's a game of two rival teams who play out of the same province. Tkachuk lands a big questionably clean hit but then refuses to answer the bell to fight Kassian

[@danielvezina5521]

Marchand is the worst. Good Friday brawl, most watch. It's not that the referee don't do their job, but that sports is so fast, it's hard to see everything that's going on. They're standing on razor blade, going a 40mph. Snapping piece of frozen rubber at speed close to100mph.

[@noahdoss1967]

Enforcers aren’t very common anymore because really every player on a team seriously needs to be capable, all 20 players need to be capable of contributing beyond just policing

[@rk74194]

There's still some but their not complete goons!

[@cjg2k]

@@rk74194 There are guys that are known to stand up for their teammates, but most of those are also skilled, like Wayne Simmons. (I know - he's older now and not as able to score, but dude was seriously good at playing AND fighting). In the old days (pre-93 or so) there were far more players on teams that were ONLY there to fight when needed.

[@rk74194]

@@cjg2k I know the role has changed and every player has to be skilled now days! But there are still players that intimidate, fight and score sometimes like Wilson, Reeves, Xhekaj, Lucic. I agree with you though most of the time it is guys sticking up for their teammates, players like Tkachuk, and others!

[@AnAceism]

NYI have two true Enforcers , Matt Martin and Ross Johnston but ya you need to be able to play and not be a liability .

[@themikep82]

I love the calm, gentlemanly voice of the narrator in this while discussing how to beat the shit out of your opponent.

[@DNReacts]

He was amazingly calm 😅

[@Twilightblade7]

The NCAA HEAVILY punishes fights in college hockey (multiple game suspensions for instigators, game misconducts, etc.) but there is such a fighting culture that the right kind of rivals still do it every single time. As the old saying goes, "I went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out."

[@yourwrongloserhaha]

there’s still fighting in the CHL, best league to watch beside the NHL

[@supersasukemaniac]

There was a game a few years ago when both teams sent out their third line to start the game, and it immediately turned in to a Line Brawl (all ten skaters fighting each other) both coaches later admitted they did that on purpose because the lines had challenged one another to a fight during the opening skate.

[@francescobianchi4150]

Quebec vs. Montreal

[@liambaylis9365]

It may gave been the Capitals and Rangers.

[@faust5398]

Canucks and flames did this after the flames head coach started their fourth line so John torterella did the same I believe

[@hkpew]

I doubt that's only happened once. It wasn't quite as extreme as that, but just a few days ago the Bruins and Lightning both started their fourth lines and two fights broke out immediately.

[@nathanjohnson3792]

Ottawa @ Philli was a good one too. each team had 4 guys on he bench by the end. March 5th 2004

[@shrodingerschat2258]

Bench-clearing brawls happened more in the 70's and 80's. Even then they were rare, but they still happened. Around the 90's the NHL started cracking down on BCB's, so they really are a thing of the past. There is a great video somewhere out on KZbin of great "vintage" fights. The best one happened in the late 70's. This was back in the days when the glass was shorter than it is now. Anyway, a player for the Boston Bruins took exception to some trash taking by a fan and actually CLIMBED OVER THE GLASS from the ice and started fighting with the fan in the seats!

[@ronaldnixon8226]

The Bruins fighting the Boston Police in the stands in the 70s, all out brawls before refs were on the ice, and Stu Grimson. Stu God Damn Grimson.

[@davepangburn]

@@ronaldnixon8226 If regards to going into the stands, do you perhaps mean the 1979 game between the Bruins & Rangers? If so, a couple technical points. That game was actually in New York at Madison Square Garden. When the Bruins went into the stands to fight the fans, my memory recalls Security & Ushers trying to intervene as much as they could, but I'm not sure if I remember seeing NYPD present. I could be wrong. Unless your referring to an entirely separate game or incident at Boston Garden?

[@ronaldnixon8226]

@@davepangburn No idea, it was a long time ago now and I was real drunk in the 70s

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

70's hockey was great!

[@toriamansfield2999]

I think the fan touched a Bruin? If it's the game I'm thinking of, just type in Mike Milbury shoe, lol.

[@videogamevalley7523]

The rivalry between the Detroit Red Wings and Colorado Avalanche along with the Boston Bruins and Montreal Canadiens are the most epic rivalries (alot of games happen in the playoffs as well so you know the level of competition is waaaaaay higher)

[@michellamoureuxm]

I'd say there's one greater....Canada V Russia, aka the Punch-up in Piestany

[@nancysexton4364]

Agreed. If you want to see one of the most famous mob brawls check out Fight Night at the Joe between Detroit and Colorado, but watch the longer version that gives you the history behind it.

[@tiffaniterris2886]

Montreal/Quebec was the biggest rivalry in Hockey, it made Detroit/Colorado look like a scrum. Also Toronto and Ottawa used to have full bench clearing brawls.

[@ygaudreault]

Bruh, Montreal Nordiques was way crazier than Montreal vs Boston. Good Friday Massacre.

[@johanstinson]

Oilers-Flames is a wild rivalry as well. Can't compare to the Bruins/Habs just based on how long it's been going on. There is no rivalry between the Wings/Avs these days. It was intense for about 5 years and that's it.

[@amhelm86]

Rule 12 was broken by Buffalo against Ottawa in 2007. Ray Emery (RIP) for Ottawa was also into boxing so he didn't care and was smiling the whole time he fought Peters.

[@FirstNameLastName-lu5nr]

Imagine it this way, if this “code” was implemented in European football, you would rapidly see embellishment of fouls decrease as the “enforcers” would just punch them in the face a couple times. and yea they might get a red for that, but that player may think twice before diving again to get an advantage

[@DNReacts]

This is very true!

[@ghost-whitesand9447]

They wouldn’t punch them in the face, I’d think they’d just give harsher tackles to really feel like they earned that yellow/red card and the embellishment would stop if they knew that the other team would give harsher tackles, not injury-worthy tackles but harsh enough that they get the wind knocked out of them or dazed for a few seconds, if they kept embellishing. (I.E: if you’re gonna keep pretending I’m whacking you with my stick when I’m actually stick-checking you then I’m really gonna give a hard whack enough to make you think twice about embellishing another call lol)

[@joshbuchanan8541]

Hell, if you even included the embellishment penalty in hockey to football you'd see a lot less diving.

[@atomic_hok]

A really good small fighter to take a look at is Rick Rypien. He used to play for the Vancouver Canucks before he tragically took his own life. At 5 foot 11 he would fight guys 6 foot 3 and taller and still kick their butt. Such an amazing small fighter. RIP Rick Rypien.

[@HonkyTonkHellraiser]

Technically Ryp was the best fighter in the NHL. He had a boxing background

[@FiresCollide]

Er, that "amazing fighter" part led to the tragedy of him taking his own life due to repeated brain trauma. It was later determined he had CTE.

[@Meerkatx5]

I love the narrator covering this like it's a nature documentary, it's exquisitely British lol. The enforcer/goon era is now a relic of the past but much of the traditions and codes are still relevant, especially when it comes to fighting. Any type of showboating or hotdogging will also put a target on your back and likely have swift consequences. Catch as much Playoff hockey as you can, it never disappoints!

[@Tjd1982]

Love the "pick on someone your own size or bigger" Is Chara lol that beast.

[@GauvinK]

I like how they used a video of Chara for rule 6 regarding size. That dude is over 7 feet tall on skates and is a Viking stuck in the wrong age of time. He's also a great defenceman with multiple Stanley cups.

[@footballJoe0609]

In order to deepen your understanding of hockey culture, I believe it’s time you gentlemen watch the movie “Slap Shot”. It was filmed in the late 1970’s. It started Paul Newman. It’s about a minor league team in a small rust belt city in the US. It’s a comedy, but, it actually does a great job of showing the culture of the sport. It’s one of the best movies of all time IMO.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

Great movie!

[@tiffaniterris2886]

Pretty good movie but not the best hockey movie, that would be Maurice Richard (or the rocket) - its like the hockey version of cindarella man. Also, slap shot doesn't explain hockey culture at all, Goon would be a better example.

[@winteriscoming1008]

I wanna talk about violence!

[@gordongale5695]

The photo used for Rule #9 was Zack Kassian and Matt Tkachuk, Edmonton Oilers vs Calgary Flames. What a ruckus that caused in Edmonton. Local sports radio did up a song for about and it was very funny. It was a back to back home n home and the second game was the Rule #11 goalie fight game along with a Kassian/Tkachuk rematch. Tkachuk took his beating like a man this time. Very good rivalry.

[@scorpiothegreat1]

Colorado vs Detroit in the 90’s was crazy!!

[@HurricaneCook]

LET'S GO HOCKEY!!! Well done boys.

[@DNReacts]

Thanks Casey! Appreciate it

[@raytorres9842]

The Red Wings/Avalanche game called Fight Night at The Joe Louis Arena is a must watch

[@johanna0131]

This is nuts! I remember a commercial from when I was a kid where there’s a hockey team posing for a photograph, and when the team smiles for the camera, they’re all missing teeth. Now I know why. 😂

[@cjg2k]

The lack of teeth is also because checks, pucks to the face, and such. Not just fights. Famously, Duncan Keith took a puck to the face in the middle of a playoff game, lost **10**!!!! teeth, and didn't miss a shift. He went to the dressing room, got the debris out of his mouth, and stuffed it with cotton gauze to control the bleeding while he was on the ice. (It was too important a game to sit out.) There's even a term for this - "Spittin' Chiclets". Hockey players are nuts - and I love it.

[@johanna0131]

@@cjg2k Oh wow, yeah, a puck to the face could do some serious damage! I knew that happened too, but was focused on the fighting. There’s something so great about hockey. It seems so hard to be good at it. I am really looking forward to learning more about the rules and intricacies. “Spitting chiclets” is hilarious!

[@nerdingout3560]

I swear hockey is the only sport where you can look ugly as dirt but still be handsome in someones eyes lol

[@GooseGumlizzard]

yeah missing teeth is from getting hit in the mouth with sticks and pucks

[@KevinQuinn81]

I've never seen true backing down from a fight, but I've definitely seen a couple of instances where someone was trying to throw down but the opposing player had no beef with the guy trying to fight and saw no reason for that guy to have a beef with him so he just skated away while the other guy dropped his gloves and tried to come after him. Per the code, the aggressor did not punch the guy skating away, but he tried SUPER hard to get him to throw down as well. Yeah, goalie fights are probably my favorites, there used to be some CRAZY ones back in the 80s. You'd probably have some fun watching a goalie fight compilation. No, bench-clearing brawls are strictly prohibited. They've instituted some serious penalties for leaving the bench during fights. You're also not allowed, in most leagues, to jump into a fight you weren't already a part of; that'll get you a more severe penalty. The leagues tacitly condone fighting but they have rules for anyone that turns a bad situation worse. Really the lack of control that the video suggests the leagues have is not necessarily accurate, especially any more. 13:40 THAT'S Tie Domi vs. Bob Probert. Should give you and idea of how nasty those two were. The pure enforcers that they describe, especially at the end of the video, aren't really a thing any more. There are players who play farther down the bench that are expected to be a bit tougher and jump into the enforcer role when needed but you still need to be a pretty good player, at least defensively, to make a team these days. Tom Wilson of the Capitals and Ryan Reaves now of the Wild, are great example of this. The absolute toughest guys on their teams but still pretty good players.

[@DNReacts]

Thanks Kevin, great comment as always. Appreciate it! Ah I can’t believe I missed Tie Domi vs Probert!! I was looking out for Domi (when I hit rewind and apologised it was because I thought I’d seen Domi). Was hard to stay focused on the names 😅

[@mystic0maggot401]

Never seen true backing down from a fight? Just look at anything Marchand does, his whole thing is being a little shit head and and then refusing to fight

[@christco120]

You guys really, really need to watch a video about the Red Wings - Avalanche battle in 1997. It's legendary. They were the two best teams in the league at the time, and I have never seen anything like it, tons of fights, blood all over the ice, a goalie on goalie battle, I think 11 goals were scored total, everything about that game was amazing, well worth your time

[@BR_Skully]

Believe it’s an automatic 10 game suspension if you leave the bench to join a fight. Happened during a brawl between the Penguins and Islanders some years back. A tough guy went after the pens goalie and the pens tough guy who was on the bench went on the ice to intervene and protect his goalie

[@downrighttt]

Weirdly enough I’m pretty sure baseball is the only sport that doesn’t give massive penalties for leaving the bench in a fight

[@vaultsuit]

Leaving the bench carries a SUBSTANTIAL fine plus suspension - which is without pay all in itself

[@FiresCollide]

I remember that game well. It had to do with something that sparked on the ice the previous game. Then they played a few days later and a brawl broke out.

[@Wakaflockabach]

React to this next: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3rdf4SvmdB1n5I It's called the brawl in hockey town. From 1996-2002 the Detroit Red Wings and Colorado Avalanche absolutely hated each other. One of the best rivalries in sports. To this day, as a Michigan native, I fucking hate the entire state of Colorado. It all starts with a cheap shot hit. And in the end, in the next 7 years the Wings or Avalanche combine for 6 Stanley Cups. It's the best combination of top tier hockey, top tier fighting, top tier rivalries, and "the brawl in hockey town" is a legendary moment in 1997 that will live in hockey infamy. You asked if there are bench clearing brawls in hockey? This is about as close to that as you'll get. Cheers boys

[@jona.scholt4362]

As diehard Wings fan and someone who just found the channel (and subbed), I'm was excited to see you guys go over some NHL fights. There are some great videos on the Wings-Avs rivalry in the '90s-early '00s; it was probably the most intense professional sports rivalry of the era. I say pro sports because honestly no pro rivalries can hold a candle to college football rivalries. But man, that Wings-Avs saga was utterly epic. To this day if you ask Wings fans to name which players they hate the most, Claude Lemuix is going to be a name you hear a lot.

[@DNReacts]

Thank you Jon! Appreciate your support. Also added these to our list.

[@Red1Actual]

For enforcers, I recommend watching Bob Probert, Tie Domi (Probert vs Domi is a classic), and for a little more modern, The Boogeyman Derek Boogaard.

[@OdieSalmon]

You guys need to watch the 1987 bench clearing brawl between Canada and Russia at the World Junior Hockey Championship aka The Punch-Up in Piestany

[@andrewreimer9160]

Im loving your enthusiasm for learning about these sports, fellas! Please 🙏 watch anything about the rivalry between the Detroit Red Wings and Colorado Avalanche. As a 90's kid, this will stick with me forever

[@brandonb9978]

One of your final questions was a great one. If there’s a fight on the ice and a player leaves the bench to join any infraction, they’re automatically ejected from the game and receive a minimum 10 game suspension. It’s a HUGE price to pay so it rarely happens. There was a brawl between the Leafs and the Sabres 10 years ago where David Clarkson jumped off the bench to help in his first game and got suspended for the next 10. It’s a big no-no these days. Used to happen back in the day on occasion.

[@cteal2018]

Goaltender Ron Hextall would fight the league, at the same time if they would let him. There is certainly a "vigilante" streak in American sports in general. There is always some kind of unwritten rule or code in American sports that are informally in control of player conduct.

[@backhandsauce2132]

I’d highly recommend watching “Alex ovechkins best hits and goals updated” he’s probably the best scorer in nhl history but also a complete wrecking ball. Nobody else is like him.

[@FuckYoutubeAndGoogle]

There's no probably about it, he's definitely the best goal scorer of all time.

[@dross1412]

Ray Emery (god rest his soul) vs Andrew Peters. All time classic goalie vs player fight in an Ottawa vs Buffalo game. Ron Hextall was also known to fight players most notably Chris Chelios in a Philly vs Montreal game in the late 80s.

[@Petry4u]

Love watching this, I grew up playing hockey and never seen people talking about it in this perspective. BOYS great job keep giving us the sweet sauce top shelf. ❤ 🇨🇦

[@faithk13]

13:02 check out the brawl in hockey town (Detroit red wings vs Colorado Avalanche) back in March 1997 - they cleared that bench so quick 😂😂 It’s been nicknamed Bloody Wednesday. 9 fights, 11 goals, 39 penalties, 148 penalty minutes, 1 hat trick, 1 turtle, 2 stanley cup champion goalies going at it in overtime lmao

[@vicfak3915]

If you want to see a crazy bench clearing brawl, there's a video called the Punch-up in Piestany when Canada and the USSR faced off and beat the living daylights out of each other. It was bedlam.

[@boki1693]

In the old days, I started watching hockey around 1972, the bench could join in on the fight but they changed that rule decades ago. It's a lot stricter about the fighting in many ways than it was back then.

[@christined6321]

😂😂😂😂 your faces thru out this video….couldn’t stop giggling!!!

[@QuackAttack]

My favorite quote that explains fighting in hockey perfectly is this: "...when two guys gets so pissed off at each other, maybe because one guy stuck a stick in his ribs, and then he finally says 'I've had enough' and wants the drop the gloves and break his nose... it makes guys think twice sometimes about taking liberties with other people if there's someone there that can come and settle things down." - Chris "Knuckles" Nilan

[@TheSwede9]

Great reaction, hockey is such a fun sport once you get into the details. Just like any sport. You guys mentioned Tie Domi he was a legend and just like you said he was short for NHL 5'8". But a monster, fearless and just a pure fighter. The stories he tells on the hockey podcast Spittin Chiclets are legendary. The fact that you stopped at a clip of Brad Marchand and went "That's the nastiest thing I've seen" made a few of us hockey fans grin, I am pretty sure. Hated by everyone who isn't a Bruins fan.

[@katherinejanke7837]

As an Oilers fan I heartily agree with you. Brad Marchand is the devil and I will hate him until he retires. Which is saying something because Zach Kassian, lol

[@kellypickle]

This was an excellent explanation of the code.

[@supersasukemaniac]

Fights usually are gentlemanly, you can tell when a fight is coming more often then not because the enforcer throws his gloves off, if you take yours off in return, then the fight is on.

[@darylgreen5126]

Montreal vs Quebec this happened often , they hated each other and both teams wanted to be the iconic team of that province

[@marcbates3663]

There is a video about the Detroit Red Wings and the Colorado Avalanche. The fight takes place right at the beginning of the period, for something that happened to a star from the game before. It is epic

[@DNReacts]

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[@MatthewBaran]

Sometimes, people back down to make the other team draw a penalty. It's a dick move and they will get rocked for it

[@theadventuresofjimmycrapol8827]

you guys should check out the greatest series in all of sports history. "Summit '72". Canada vs Russia in the middle of the cold war.

[@michaelt4740]

These are all great life rules. New hockey fan here

[@sweetwater156]

An infamous “back down from a fight” or “turtling” happened about 10 years ago with my team. Our tough as nails defenseman was not challenged to a fight (he didn’t shake the gloves off) and he was grabbed by an opposing player and immediately became a turtle. He could have fought but we were leading in the score and he realized it’s better to get a power play than lose their best defenseman.

[@steamer1112]

Way back in the "dark ages" of the 1970's, I had seasons tickets to a local Junior hockey team called The New Westminster Bruins. New Westminster is a city located a few kilometers from Vancouver BC. From 1975 to 1978, the Bruins won the league championship every year, then they went on the national championships against the winners of the Ontario Hockey Association and Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. 4 years in a row the Bruins won their league championship then went on the Memorial Cup, the Canadian junior hockey national championships. They lost the first 2 times but then went on to win the Canadian major junior hockey leagues championship the next 2 years in a row. This was also during the "goon" years of hockey. In those years we saw hundreds of 1 on 1 fights, dozens of line brawls and at least 15 full on brawls with every player on the ice fighting. The most memorable brawl that I saw was the "Billings Brawl". It started with a line brawl which quickly degenerated into the most massive brawl I ever saw. In most brawls, you'll see a few fights and a whole lot of milling about, pushing and shoving and just hanging on to the other teams player. This one was different, pretty well every single player was fighting. It was epic. The next weekend we went over to Victoria on the ferry to watch the return match. It was a much tamer event. But, being 20 something years old, my friends and I looked forward to pub after the game as well.

[@bryancayouette1618]

If you want a deep dive into fighting in hockey check out the documentary Ice Guardians. Great film with interviews from current and retired enforces, goons, stars, fans, and coaches. Really goes into detail about the culture of hockey and fighting in the sport.

[@tuckerj07]

That would give them a much better understanding of the code.

[@Rblancob88]

This is why I love hockey great sport to get into

[@krw73]

There's a great video of players being mic'ed up during and leading up to fighting and you can really experience some of the funny comments but also the sportsmanship. One fight that was about to start, the one guy asked the other guy which shoulder he had surgery on out of respect to avoid re-injuring that shoulder... And then they tried to take each other's head off...lol

[@jefffitzgerald8410]

Bob Probert and Tie Domi are both from here in Windsor, Ontario! Their highlights are awesome!

[@Dpv6942]

Back in the good old days, there were more frequent bench clearing brawls and they sometimes spilled over into the audience. In the late 70’s I was watching a Chicago game with a friend from Florida that had never seen hockey before and knew nothing of the “rules’ of fighting. When a fight broke out, I told him that, if the fight looked even, the refs would give the combatants a little time to continue fighting and wear themselves out and then break it up. In the game we were watching the fight turned into a bench clearing brawl that I took about 1/2 hour to get under control.

[@iSPELLinAMERICAN]

There are people that back down from fights all the time. Rookies getting bullied, stars that are getting instigated but strategically they can't fight because they are needed to score, the guy just isn't a fighter and getting him to fight is damn near impossible. Sometimes they just move on and game play continues. Other option is someone else will fight in their place.

[@jesses5463]

I think it's a unwritten rule in any fight that you don't run away but a couple days ago in the UFC, CJ Vergara ran his ass off. It looked a bit silly but if he didn't do it he would have most certainly been knocked out. He nearly got knocked out anyway, but running circles around the Octagon helped him clear his head, tired his opponent, and allowed him to make a remarkable comeback. Highlights which shows some of the running and the finish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZWlhGxsZ6h_ipo

[@nancybeaulieu6474]

One full on brawl happened on Good Friday of 1984 between Montreal and Quebec. The benches cleared twice in the same playoff game. Throw two teams were rivals, being in the same province. One player got a broken nose and another had to end his career, got injured to an eye and had vision issues for the rest of his life.

[@wilfbentley6738]

Former NHL player, coach, scout and sportscaster Don Cherry has talked about "The Code". (He believes in it and understands it intimately, because he was a bit of a tough guy.)

[@Pierce-xb6vi]

I loved how you guys paused the video and asked a question about something that was being answered right as you were asking it hahaha all you had to do was look at the screen and that question would have been answered. Also,bench clearing brawls used to be common back in the early days of the game but we're discontinued by the 90's and it will never happen in a modern day game.

[@azteccurses3263]

I love how Jamie Ben is in many of these clips that’s the Dallas Stars Captain for ya.

[@helmedon]

There have been backdowns due to the player having an injured hand or something. A famous one was Justin Abdelkader backing down from a much larger Chara. Abby was definitely a fighter and a hitter. He backed down because he had an injured hand that had tape on it. If you drop your gloves in a fight and your hand(s) is taped you get another penalty and sometimes a match penalty which will remove you from the game and possibly the next game. The incident was in the playoffs (if I remember correctly).

[@tommcd8471]

I remember watching a game and i think it was Shawn Horcoff that accepted a fight, went to shake his glove off and his shoulder poped out. I think thats the only time i've seen something like that though.

[@helmedon]

@@tommcd8471 Yeah, I remember seeing a replay of that. Weird. With Abby though, he was more than willing, he just didn't want to take an additional penalty. It's a rule they put in because of guys like McCartey who would tape up their hands like a boxer because they were planning to fight. Abby had injured his hand fighting the previous game, I think it was, which precipitated Chara challenging him.

[@MustardGravyy]

7:06 I'm glad you rewound that because those 2 dudes were throwing haymakers!

[@Cashcrop54]

Yeah Hockey! Loved that video. Yes, I have seen many bench clearing brawls, but it is rare today. Ive seen bench clearers before the opening face-off. My favorite fighter was John Ferguson of the Montreal Canadiens. I'm not a Canadians fan but back when I was like 10, he was destroying people. Few players would go with Gordie Howe either. He was a star player who could fight. Thanks for the Hockey!

[@lindajane8962]

I remember hearing years ago someone (don't remember who) say that Gordie Howe used to sharpen his elbows, lol !!

[@Cashcrop54]

@@lindajane8962 I would not put it past him. He was a tough, tough guy.

[@cjg2k]

Bench clearing brawls won't happen today because any player that steps off the bench, and onto the ice, receives an automatic 10 game suspension. David Clarkson did this a few years back during an exhibition game, and was immediately suspended. If the benches cleared, both teams would be without every player on the ice for 1/8th of the season.

[@micheldick1736]

When a goalie sees the opposing goalie cheap shot one of his teammates, he stands up for them

[@cgalla2726]

12:55 check out “The Battle Of Lower Parliament Street”. It’s a bench clearance in the EIHL Nottingham Panthers Vs Sheffield Steelers. If you check out the one from “Hockey Fight UK”, you will be able to hear audio from players that were involved in the game talking about it.

[@thomthulbourne2336]

hi gents, loving the channel! with regards to the clearing of benches, it doesnt happen very often at all, but it does happen! maybe take a look at the bench clearance in the old ISL (british elite league) from 2001 between the Sheffield Steelers and the Nottingham Panthers!

[@DNReacts]

Thank you so much, we really appreciate it 🙏 Have noted the suggestion too

[@MattKrogmeier]

Domi/Probert scraps were legendary!

[@icanpreptoo6673]

Have you ever seen the brawl in hockeytown video? That was epic!

[@lucasokano8035]

bench clearing brawls are technically illegal, and they don't happen anymore. That being said they have happened, the most infamous being in international play (where fighting is actually illegal) in the 'Punch-up in Piestany'. One of the most out of control and wild sports moments ever

[@Swaggs907]

Most everything in this video still applies even if it’s a bit dated. The nhl specifically has changed a lot in recent years. But the unwritten rules still apply. Fighting is a necessary part of the game to keep it from getting out of control due to how dangerous it can be. Certain rules have changed like you have to keep your helmet on now, which is dumb but it’s a rule now. Goalie fights have actually been happening a lot lately in the league and they’re a lot of fun. But fights and the code will always have its place even if fighting is on the decline because of how fast and skilled the league is now.

[@derpderpin1568]

It's not dumb. Broken hands are significantly, drastically superior to concussions.

[@cres4928]

@@derpderpin1568 the 1 or 2 fist fights they might do in a year is not what's causing concussions

[@samhatfield7732]

@@derpderpin1568 The NHL created extra punishment for removing your helmet in a fight to discourage fighting. It had nothing to do with safety. Now, you will often see the fighters take each other's helmets off during a fight.

[@ghost-whitesand9447]

@@cres4928 but it can be if the person getting “dropped” bumps their head off the ice, person loses their balance and bumps their head, and all those other consequences of fighting on ice… I don’t think it’s dumb for the helmets to stay on during a fight but they need to find a way to make visors more “adjustable” (I agree, it’s not the punches that cause concussions but it’s the way they go down, by knock out or bodychecking, and it’s a lot better to keep those helmets on then to throw it off)

[@theadventuresofjimmycrapol8827]

Hockey is a man's sport. Quite often, you'll see players getting stitched up right on the bench so that they won't miss a shift. Note: Probably the best story in all of sports history happened in 1972 in a 8 game series between Canada and Russia's best hockey talent in the middle of the cold war. It was more than a sports series... it was war on ice. There's a few great documentaries about it. It's often referred to as "Summit '72".

[@scorpiothegreat1]

Ovechkin hits everyone, and no one can do anything about it. And he’s the greatest goal scorer of all time.

[@gordieparenteau6555]

2nd greatest, only behind Wayne Gretzky.

[@aSignInTheTrees]

10:00 yes it's always goalie-on-goalie. One of the weird things about hockey is the goalie. They're special and treated differently to other players

[@chasem-jw9rn]

Montreal vs Quebec in the 1980s had SEVERAL bench clearing brawls (Donnybrooks) as well as Philadelphia and Boston...they happened haha

[@benx2230]

I went to the fights last night when suddenly a hockey game broke out. That's the NHL. Collegiate hockey is where actual hockey is played.

[@cmac3530]

Bench clearing brawls used to happen but, now they have strict rules preventing it. A player who comes off the bench or a third-man joining a fight are both automatic suspensions.

[@jeniasmackay7931]

10:41 . This goalie fight was amazing. Season prior both goaltenders where playing for opposing teams, they got traded in the off season….. this is also the Battle of Alberta, 2 teams from same province in Canada…. Most or all games are entertaining. I recommend watching Battle of Alberta recent playoffs

[@GiuseppeDAntelmi]

Here's a great example of a game where the code was not followed. Pittsburgh Penguins-New York Islanders, 2011. Previous game between the two the Penguins had laid some questionable hits that were not called penalties by the refs. The Islanders responded in this game and things got extremely out of hand. 65 penalties were assessed that night for a grand total of 346 penalty minutes (and no, that's not even close to the record). 15 of those penalties were for fighting, and 21 players were kicked out of the game.

[@abrant73]

Laraque said that before every fight he was in. Classy fighter lol

[@supersasukemaniac]

Bench clearing brawls don't happen in hockey, but it isn't unheard of to have animosity between the benches, some times the coaches will chirp at each other. Some times a player coming off or on on a line change will deliberately spray snow in the opposite bench.

[@dannycarlow8204]

Canada and Russia played a World Junior Tournament final game where both benches cleared (almost, ahem Pierre Turgeon) and there was nothing the refs could do because they were fighting everywhere so they turned out the lights and they fought in the dark. Both teams were disqualified from the tournament when both were to receive medals. It's called the punch up in Piestany (Czechoslovakia)1987 It's wild. There's an NHL game where Boston players went up into the stands during the game. One fan got beat with a shoe by a player. It was hilarious.

[@mintihar]

Tie domi is awesome but Wendel Clark from the Toronto maple leafs is a legend. 165 lb and took on probert multiple times and he could put the puck in the net. Best game I ever saw. He scored a Hattrick and assist and won one or two fights.

[@tdsportscards]

There has been full out team fights... I went to a minors game once and there was a fight a minute and then with a minute left it was team vs team....crazy

[@MoreIrrelevantTwaddle]

Goalie fights have specific rules. If a brawl is happening, usually one goalie will skate to the middle of the ice, when he does so the other goalie will meet him there and they'll tussle. If the goalie crosses the center line he can get a penalty, now this penalty is waved IF the opposing goalie is assisting his teammates in a brawl at the other end, then the goalie can come all the way down the ice. Players who challenge goalies are usually talked poorly about, unless that goalie was Ron Hextall, then that player was a brave S.O.B because that goalie was crazy. Another goalie, Ray Emery, was an ex boxer and had a fight with a player, yes they are at a significant disadvantage due to the extra padding and less range of motion, but he did pretty well.

[@craigwilliams1900]

In the nhl, its fines and suspensions if players leave the bench while a fight is breaking out

[@chriskazanas9941]

So bench clearing brawls happened on a fairly regular basis in the 70s and 80s however today the first one to leave the bench gets an automatic 20 game suspension. That having been said of you want to watch an epic bench clearing brawl you need to watch "the good friday masacre" this was a brawl thayt broke out during a Montrel-Quebec game on catholic good friday of all days. It spanned an intermission having started at the end of the second period and continuing at the beginning of the third

[@tiffaniterris2886]

It's also worth noting that most of the great fighters in the leagues history came from small working class Canadian towns, and a lot from mining towns.

[@jesterpoker]

Yes. keep doing Ice hockey and checkout Box Lacrosse fights

[@lewisreese4603]

You asked about brawls in baseball. JomBoy breaks one down that happened between the Angels and mariners in May or June of last year. It was one of the biggest in years. Jomboy’s breakdown is about 15 minutes long because the fight was so long. I’m an Angels fan, and naturally, I side with the Angels on this one even though they may have been in the wrong. Obviously you know, Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani are both on the Angels. I recommend reacting to this one, but also watch the fight before you see Jomboy’s break down. Anyways, F*** the Mariners!

[@tstumpf75]

LINE FIGHT!!!!! (When everyone on the ice fights each other)

[@tatoogap1168]

Yes there has been bench clearing, when I played high school hockey we had a couple of bench clearings. I haven’t seen it in forever in the NHL.

[@H8Gravity]

NHL Mic’d up refs is a good one. Players and Refs have a pretty good relationship unlike other sports

[@InvalidUsername480]

There's a really good documentary called Ice Guardians about this.

[@jefflake1581]

You guys should check out Don Cherry's "Rock'em Sock'em hockey" series for THE premiere source of old school greatness.

[@DonKnight-qi4tu]

Cheers from Canada. There's an ESPN documentary Unrivaled about the Detroit Colorado rivalry. If you can find it, it would answer most, if not all of your questions. I also recommend Montreal Quebec from the 1984 playoffs. Quebec relocated to Colorado a few years later. 1987 Canada Russia at the world juniors in Czechoslovakia. Canada was headed for gold, Russia was crap. Not wanting to see Canada win, Russia started to play chippy. Canada wrote the unwritten code. Both teams were disqualified. Anything from the Flyers of the '70s, known as the broad street bullies.

[@joksal9108]

Ice ‘ockey! The old line was “if you can’t beat ‘em in the alley you can’t beat ‘em on the ice”. There actually is less fighting than there used to be. It’s really only fun in person-not sure hockey works on TV.

[@jackmanley1473]

The Goalie fighting situation actually came up very recently specifically because the officials prevented two of them from fighting. Marc-Andre Fleury, the Minnesota Wild netminder wanted to teach a lesson to Jordan Binnington, his counterpart on the St. Louis Blues & a frequent instigator, because no one else on the Wild was allowed to hit him back after his latest incident. Fleury even complained to the refs as they got in between them that, "If I don't teach him a lesson, who's going to?"

[@cjg2k]

It's the "Emery Rule" - it's not written (like The Code) but there was an incident where Emery fought another goalie, and the other goalie got injured and was never the same again. These days, goalie fights are rare because of that. But for a good one, search for Hextall vs Potvin from the 90s

[@ketadorv6705]

i dont know about a full bench clear. but i saw one of the schenn brother jumping on the icw from the bench when his captain got hit really hard

[@patrickfuller2423]

12:38 you guys don't look back at all? great stuff.

[@canadianmadduck8932]

You know Marchand is really effective when 2 dudrs that don't know him hate what he did! LOL

[@darrylhinko5568]

Back in the 70s bench clearing brawls were almost a common thing. THey were crazy, I forget the announcers name but he used to yell A Donnybrook has broken out. THey made penalties for leaving the bench very strict. The coach is thrown out automatically and players get stiff suspensions. THat is why you dont see it anymore. I am sure there are some online. Flyers Rangers or FLyers Bruins were always good for one. Also the way the game is going enforcers are less and less, you can't waste the roster spot on someone who just fights any longer.

[@supersasukemaniac]

The IIHF does have a bit more control then the NHL during competitions like the Worlds Championship since they make Fighting an automatic Game Misconduct and both fighters are removed from the game. But in club competition the only way you get kicked out of a game for fighting is to get into 3 fights in a single game. Fighting is an automatic 5 Minute Major Penalty, but since it's on both teams, the game is keep Even Stength and the two penalized players are replace on their lines, if their lines are on for a shift.

[@DNReacts]

Thank you for this context. Makes complete sense, appreciate it!

[@cosmickid1794]

unless someone is deemed "the instigator" and is given the additional 2 minute minor. Lately, the instigator penalty not being called that often

[@mystic0maggot401]

@@cosmickid1794 A lot of the reason for that is cause the players know the penalty exists and take the necessary steps to avoid it.

[@parliamentlite]

Leaving the bench during a brawl is now a match penalty that comes with suspension as well. Before this rule, bench clearing brawls happened semi-regularly, especially in rivalry games. The 80s-90s era was the peak of them, when cocaine usage and alcoholism were rampant in the NHL.

[@DNReacts]

Oh wow, that wouldn’t have helped with the fighting 😂

[@parliamentlite]

@@DNReacts It was a harsh business and the survivors are honest about it. If you want to see an NHL legend fighting it's the appropriately named Tony Twist who was a middleweight but never lost spite for some draws kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXawdK2ZnJdlrtk