Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? - KingdomCraft

[@amazingwolf7642]

ngl wouldve been kinda funny if you said "no" and its just 20 minutes of minecraft gameplay in silence

[@olekcholewa8171]

Would be based

[@sylveonboy7888]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tarajanique]

😂😂

[@FromElsewhear]

That would be too much like the Nephilim video.

[@JoWilliams-ud4eu]

That would have been based

[@PeccatorSpePlenus]

"Okay now I've entered the Eastern Orthodox province, it looks a lot prettier than this once you get into it I promise. In fact I think this is the prettiest province in my whole minecraft server because the Eastern Orthodox christians on this minecraft server are very dedicated to spending a lot of time playing minecraft, and a lot of time online." -RZ somehow both complementing and demolishing the Eastern Orthodox with two sentences.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Orthobros

[@TheGerkuman]

This is RZ in general. If you're a Nicene Christian denomination he'll compliment and insult you at the same time. If you're Mormon or JW, he'll just take pot-shots.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​in fairness Orthobros exist so......@@TheGerkuman

[@newsavefile]

There’s a huge online movement of ortho bros that doesn’t reflect to real life.

[@zacharyahearn4069]

😂 a lot of time online

[@jalent810]

“Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?” Catholics: no [Insert geographical location] Orthodox: no Presbyterians: no Anglicans/Episcopalians: no Methodists: no Congregationalists: no Baptists: no Lutherans: no Pentecostals: no WE’VE DONE IT! ECUMENISM ACHIEVED!!! 🎊 🥳✝️☦️🎈🎉

[@whocares435-z9v]

Mormons walk in: "Yeah! No!"

[@herrflammen6487]

When it comes to heretics, all Christians unite

[@FaithfullyFishingForFacts]

Pentecostals: “shdhdbxusnsgejsbxusnsvduendvdudnxgbdi”

[@sidthesquidh]

​@@FaithfullyFishingForFactslore accurate

[@youtubeaccountfr]

@@jalent810 half of these domenations are equal to naming a random nba scrub who played from 2003-2008 cuz idk half of these

[@lakerfan0243]

Short Answer: No Long Answer: Noooooooooooooo

[@Swiftninjatrev]

oh come on I just made this comment 😭

[@gekota3xyz]

you have a point

[@TheSignofJonah777]

Congrats on 500k that’s how many you’ve inspired to lead kingdom truth into the world!

[@budicaesar1213]

As a reformed christian from indonesia, thank you so much for this video! As opposed to struggling with liberalism and christian sectarianism, we instead struggle with islam and religious pluralism down here!

[@budicaesar1213]

DISCLAIMER I'm not saying that muslims here are actively hunting us down or anything. As a matter of fact, Indonesia is one of the most safest "muslim country" out there and evangelization is permitted by the government. I personally have many muslim friends with whom i converse often in inter-faith dialogues. I was just saying that the main opponent of christian worldview in Indonesia is islamic worldview (especially the fundamentalist one) and pluralism ("all religions are the same" view).

[@jonthorn2003]

20 minutes is an awfully long time to say “no”

[@AryanNaik1415]

Lol

[@ExerciseForLifePls]

It would be, if he didn’t explain why. Thankfully, he explained why. Edgelord.

[@Stargaizer99]

Saying that Christians worship the same God as any other religion because they both worship a single God and can agree on some/most of His attributes is comparable to saying that two men are married to the same person because they're both married to a woman and they have some/most of the same attributes.

[@I2MMDL]

Muslims really be like "Your god is so weak that he died". My God is so strong that He conquered death and said "aight I'm taking the entire universe next" 😏

[@woodtier-gv8he]

Then they don't know their Quran well enough.

[@I2MMDL]

@@woodtier-gv8he Wouldn't want to be Muslim if they did.

[@Tabthelad]

"the Eastern Orthodox like spending a lot of time online" Slipped that one in there lol

[@Michael-zi3kk]

Redeem Zoomer I'm a Muslim and I love your videos. The way I've always seen it is that all three of the main abrahamic religions worship the god of Abraham it's just that we all have different interpretations of what the god of Abraham is. Personally I'm fine with not truly understanding what God is because I don't really think us humans are meant to know everything but I think you put it pretty well in this video.

[@ChrisTheFreedomEnjoyer]

3:04 "The Eastern Orthodox churches on this server look so good because Orthodox Christians are very dedicated to spending a lot of time online." Holy crap we just witnessed a murder

[@ClaytonHatfield-do5mn]

>Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? No. As well, for a theological tradition which supposedly holds Aristotle, and Plotinus, in such high esteem, it is shocking they cannot, or more likely simply refuse to, understand the Trinity. In Aristotle's Metaphysics, he proves that the summit of being, the Unmoved Mover, must be an immaterial intellect, thinking only the best thought, that is, itself. Elsewhere, in his On the Soul, Aristotle shows that when the intellect thinks of it's object, it is made like with, or united to, that object. So, from this, we see that Aristotle has shown that the Unmoved Mover, God, is self-reflexive isomorphic intellection, or, thought thinking itself. To use an Augustinian analogy, God is Thinker/Thought/Thinking, or Subject/Object/Verb, where all three aspects, are, necessarily, God, fully and wholly. As well, Plotinus, building on the work of Aristotle in analyzing the human psyche, shows that we, like God, are "tripartite" in our being. That is, insofar as we exist, we are One/True/Good, all at the same time, corresponding to Plotinus' development of the hypostases of God of the One, the Intellect, and the Soul. All being, of course, relative names, as noted by Aquinas. In the original Greek/Latin discussions of the Trinity, Person was used in the same sense as "persona," or, in the same sense as "act." Thus, God eternally acts, to use a somewhat abused formula, as Father, our Creator, as Son, our Redeemer, and Spirit, our Sanctifier. Note this is NOT modalism, which held that once God is "finished" being our Creator, He "becomes" our Redeemer, then "becomes" our Sanctifier. There is no before or after in Him, no change. The noetic damage of the Fall is profound. I pray that all may come to know, love, and worship the Blessed Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in Christ Jesus, our Lord.

[@cyber-7878]

Very nice. I wish there was an easy way to save youtube comments for future refernce

[@whocares435-z9v]

​@cyber-7878you can screencap them and add them to a folder, or paste them into a channel in some other app

[@francescocantoni5665]

Really impressive comment. The trinitarian formula isn't abused but often misunderstood when people anthropomorphise it. The three Persons aren't individuals (if they were and they had the same dignity, they would be three different gods) instead, they must be understood in terms of endings of relationships: Fatherhood-Sonship, Inspirer-Inspired. Each of them "needs" the other to have its own meaning, hence their coexistence and co-eternity. Coming back to Aristotle and Plotinus, I would like to recall that also the so-called Arians came from that background but misunderstood in John 1:1-2 the relation between Λόγος and αρχή. So I think they aren't the first and won't be the last to have hardship with it. Also, a faithful Muslim has already learnt that according to the Qur'an, false Christians had distorted the original Message and now believe in three gods (God, Jesus and Mary) against what عسى (the Qu'ranic Jesus) said. So I understand their difficulties.

[@malachite5338]

The God we worship is based

[@I2MMDL]

Muslims really be like "Man your god is so weak that he died". My God is so strong that he conquered death and said "aight I'm taking the entire universe next" 😏

[@Govnar658]

@@I2MMDL Muslims be like: He's just a prophet, but he will come back to judge the world

[@herrflammen6487]

@Govnar658but will contradict it in the next breath (read the Quran)

[@lovex.g1]

@@I2MMDL no hate like monotheistic love

[@fallenkingdom-zd8xh]

15:57 Shoutout to that St. Michael statue! St. Michael, ora pro nobis! St. Michael, defend us in battle!

[@maxzation]

5:35 Actually, Neoplatonism believes in a form of Trinity too, well Augustine was Neoplatonist

[@JustinCage56]

Short answer: No

[@Chance_Rice]

Long answer: No

[@olekcholewa8171]

Absolutely not.

[@Omen09]

Congrats on 500k!

[@hismajesty6272]

Some say we do, but they’re wrong. The answer is “no.”

[@TheHolyBaptistChannel]

Proud to comment ig. God bless you Zoomer. also since you're gen z mew in a livestream

[@Yusuf-xk8eo]

I'm actually pleasantly surprised by this video. In the past you've expressed some big misunderstandings of Islamic Theology, but this time you didn't try to explain the theology of Islam to explain the differences, but instead explained why fundamentally they are different

[@dragonjo7550]

we love redeemed zoomer even when he misrepresents some things, because he genuinely tries his best to see past his bias and represent other christian denominations and religions as best he can. he truly does his best, which is really good for a guy in his early 20's still. im 27 and found that I've had to circle back on my own christian theology multiple times, and ive only done some cursory learning of other religions, which i am biased by my own beliefs and knowledge when even learning, so it makes it a bit harder to be fair to other groups, no matter how much i love my muslim brothers and sisters (cousins maybe? lol).

[@Yusuf-xk8eo]

@dragonjo7550 for sure, there's a reason I've stuck around so long watching his videos, he comes off as a genuine guy who learns more and corrects things over time

[@bigboineptune9567]

@@dragonjo7550Never under any circumstances refer to them as “brothers and sisters”

[@dragonjo7550]

@@bigboineptune9567 them? are they not my neighbours, that i am to love as myself as God loves me? buddy everyone is my brother and sister, doesn't mean i commune with em. so two black dudes can call each other brother, neither being related and one muslim and on christian, and that is perceived normal, but i cant call a muslim brother because that is what i call everyone who i can get along with? i did not call him an adopted son of God nor did i call him my brother in Christ. language is not a narrow perception. i say what i mean in all love, so i ask you to back down

[@elKarlo]

St. John of Damascus tore Islam apart. He was born in the 600s and spoken Arabic. He figured out all the errors and was surprisingly good. For instance he realized that Mohammad was taught by an Arian priest

[@AryanNaik1415]

For people who dont wanna watch 20 min long video. The answer is 'no'

[@proatnothing4263]

I'm doing something for English about something that you think is bad in society today and when I was looking something up the website said around 40% of evangelicals don't believe in the Deity of Jesus

[@ingenieriaavanzada3391]

I know some catholics might dislike you because of your protestant views. But I'm willing to bet some will dislike you for your positive comment on the Pope 😂 Btw, I'm a catholic

[@avoidski]

Zoomer how can i join the server? I want to explore it and build a lutheran church

[@hollyissupersmartyep]

Yay 🎉 my favorite topic!

[@VictoriousCatholic]

Those letters ICXC means “Jesus Christ”. When paired with NIKA, the complete phrase is Jesus Christ Conquers

[@simeonlauber6377]

!SPOILER! It is Not the same God

[@Cekkkko21212]

No. End of story

[@blinkzone1]

Difference between Muslim and Christians Muslims have the body of Muhammad. Christuans have the ever living savior named Jesus Christ who actually rose from the dead Muslims and all of the religions if the world have no moral concept of sin. Christians have a full understanding of the meaning of sin which is a transgression of God's Law.

[@inspirationalprayers4642]

A big NO. Our GOD is JESUS CHRIST. the only Saviour

[@luccasguimaraes]

Could you make a vídeo about Van Til, Herman Dooyeweerd, etc?

[@maxxiong]

The other question is whether Jews and Christians worship the same God. And the place where this actually has some consequence is whether modalists worship the same God, because if they do then Romans 10:9 could mean they are saved.

[@skybattler2624]

They technically worship the same God, but they NEED to acknowledge that their Messiah is actually Jesus of Nazareth to be a Christian. That is the sole difference.

[@rockzalt]

Muslims also view the prophets and apostles differently from Christianity. They are taught to believe that the prophets and apostles minus Paul were all practicing Muslims like they are today.

[@CristiNeagu]

Not only them. They're taught to believe that literally everyone ever was muslim. This is why they have those "Islam invented everything" series. "Gravity? Newton invented that. He was a muslim but didn't know it. Relativity? Einstein invented that. He was a muslim but didn't know it. Steam engine? James Watt invented that. He was a muslim but didn't know it."

[@MalachiCo0]

They do not, but the reason is that Allah is indeed a pagan deity Muhammad decided to conflate with YHWH who is actually the one true God.

[@fallenkingdom-zd8xh]

8:12 As a Catholic, I was not expecting that. Thank you for your service.🫡✝️🇻🇦

[@westerncentristrants525]

Galatians 1:6-12 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. Islam started when an angel allegedly came to Muhammad on a mountain and gave him the Quran. Put two and two together.

[@Benji2914]

I love these videos because i already know the answer i still learn something new

[@JaximusJoe]

I agree that Christians and Muslims don’t believe in the same God. I am curious on people’s takes on pray however. How does God (the true God of the trinity) deal with the prayer of Muslims? Does he emphatically reject their genuine prays and is offended? Does he just ignore them? Is he sympathetic and understanding toward their prayers? Does he spite their prayers? Does he try and answer their prayers? I never have heard someone discuss this, although I’m sure people have before.

[@murilolinsdacruz4110]

Why do you think many Muslims are converting because of dreams ?

[@bigboineptune9567]

It depends. I would say that under ordinary circumstances, He would not accept their prayers, but there are examples in the Bible of genuine prayers from unbelievers that He answered.

[@jacobpalmer7538]

Day 35 of asking Redeemed Zoomer to livestream himself listening to the 2006 album Go by the Newsboys because it's good contemporary Christian music

[@Swiftninjatrev]

based.

[@AtlasArtAnimation]

Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? Redeemed Zoomer: "Yes... But also no."

[@olekcholewa8171]

I've watched too much Sam Shamoun and David Wood for it to even be a question.

[@UltraFire538]

Same, also watched Christian Prince and Apostate Prophet

[@joshuajohansen1210]

15:45 - I don't think Martin Luther drowned any anabaptists. Zwingli - yes, Luther - no.

[@olekcholewa8171]

Roses are red, violets are blue Aisha was 9 Muhammad was 52

[@coltonregal1797]

And they're proud of that!

[@meanderingmangomanthe1stof611]

Something so heinous you cannot find a condemnation for the act of child marriage in the whole your divinely inspired scripture. Perhaps this is a modern, liberal argumemt and not a genuinely Christian one?

[@olekcholewa8171]

@@coltonregal1797 YOU'RE HIDING BOI

[@AbstractEntityJ]

​@@meanderingmangomanthe1stof611Lack of condemnation and active condoning are two different things

[@olekcholewa8171]

@@meanderingmangomanthe1stof611 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6, KJV.

[@DruckerYTA]

Here b4 the no comments (they are right)

[@woodtier-gv8he]

It's even more troubling. Islam's theology is missing vital aspects, such as God's Glory (Shekinah), such as second temple theology.

[@zacharyahearn4069]

Why is RZ still using iron tools?

[@DramaticNerd-v6i]

I had this conversation with my ex-roommate who is a believer in Islam. Me: do you believe in the trinity? Him: no Me: then we don't worship the same God. You want to start another crusade? Because this is how you start another crusade!

[@solidarnosc14]

i have a question about the server, does the server have a dedicated spot/church/area for Polish catholicism, or is it grouped in with Roman Catholicism if there is one?

[@goblinoide]

14:13 it's a video game dude

[@Duckmanman]

The chat mentioning child labor lol

[@woodtier-gv8he]

Jesus said this to the woman at the well in Samaria: John 4:22 ESV - You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.

[@bananoatmeal]

No

[@CliffCardi]

Would RZ rather visit Geneva, Switzerland, or Patmos, Greece?

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Geneva 100%

[@CliffCardi]

@ even over Jerusalem?

[@maximofernandez451]

Hey man. I find your videos quite entertaining! I'd love to hear your take on the movie "The last Temptation of christ". Like a movie review but from a christian's POV. I know it's a very controversial movie for most. cheers!

[@IanRice-Lindseth]

13:51 😂 is someone mad

[@jillengland3277]

Christians and Jews don’t worship the same God either. Technically Christians and Jesus do not worship the same God. The question “Do we worship the same god” must be faulty.

[@Stargaizer99]

Could you expand on how Christians don't worship the same God as Jesus?

[@jillengland3277]

@ Jesus was Jewish so he worshipped the god YHVH and dutifully followed the tradition of the Torah. Paul invented Christianity and never met Jesus while he was alive, only his spirit. We follow the greco-Roman version of the Messiah created by Paul in the first century. We do not pray to the Jewish God or follow his traditions.

[@Swiftninjatrev]

False...

[@WhaleManMan]

From a scholarly perspective, yes. From a theology perspective, definitely not.

[@2010hyundaielantra]

Depends on who you ask

[@smoshfan99999999]

ICXC is a Christogram (abbreviation) of the Greek name of Jesus Yes, Catholic theology puts an emphasis on Oneness. One God, One Church, One Bible, One Baptism, One Body of Christ, One Path of Salvation, etc. Catholic theology states if you were validly baptized, then you are a spiritual member of the Catholic Church; for there is only One body of Christ and only One Church established by Jesus. This is why the Catholic Church won't baptize you if you were baptized in a Mainline Protestant Church or an Orthodox Church.

[@murilolinsdacruz4110]

Well, because you guys don't care about Jesus you only care about an institution. Honestly, I'm losing my mind with Catholics. They love anathemazing others and treating everyone else as if we were heretics (actually in your vision, yah we are)

[@murilolinsdacruz4110]

And don't come with the claim "my church was founded by Jesus" you way long abandoned the gospels in behalf of your traditions and further complicated and added things to the gospel and the early church.

[@smoshfan99999999]

​@@murilolinsdacruz4110according to whom

[@universome511]

Yeah Kinda If Christ is a Hellenistic YHWH then Allah is a kind of return to the Semitic tradition

[@NoHomo1776]

Absolutely not. Because Jesus is God, he is the alpha and omega. And pagan Muslims deny that Jesus is the Christ.

[@bardiatalebi3649]

Lmao the comment section is just completely rejecting nuance in every sense.

[@UnstableYT-u7k]

I’ve been reading about hermeticism and I don’t know why some people are saying that The All from hermeticism is more powerful than Allah and the Christian God. Is that true?

[@MarkStein-v4j]

in Islam, God (Allah) is father to No One. It's always funny when a muslim quotes a Bible verse of Jesus to claim he was actually a proto-muslim, but they can't find a single verse in which Jesus doesn't call God as "Father" so I always point out that this God can't possibly be Allah, since Allah is Father to no one.

[@khankeshkhan1636]

Islam has its roots in Baal worship and pagan arab traditions. All answers to this question are no, whether we consider the complexities of the question or not. Though i did enjoy learning about them

[@lamzougui101]

I think what you meant is that Islam came to remove people from paganism and stone worship, and that the prophet Mohammed was punished for it multiple times by his tribe...... and that he destroyed all the idols at a shock from the pagans...........and I think you meant that Islam has its roots from prophet Abraham (our second father after Adam) and that any shape of idol worship is punishable by death........ and I think you meant that the Quran specifically warns people who worship Baal and leave the greatest of creators ( the Israelites and the people of jonah)....... and I think you meant that Islam is the only religions that doesn't tolerate the drawing or the sculpting of idols and it punishes it severely.... Maybe I'm wrong but I think that's what you actually meant.

[@marlena.]

@@lamzougui101 Yes you are wrong. All Mo did was, eighter, easily being decieved by an "angel of light" (a.k.a satan pretending to be holy according to christian writings), or else, he, as a part trader, combined parts and wisdoms from religions he heard around him and made it his own to gain personal glory, power and dominion. Thats might explain there are contradicting verses, such as the people of the book and the jews having the truth but also the sayings that say a muslim gets a christian or jew to carry their sins in Jahannam

[@lamzougui101]

@@marlena. Yeah, number 1 : Satan being the angel of light or the Morningstar is a Christian / pagan roman concept (Venus) and not Islamic, we belief he was a Jinn, because angels are creatures that were created without the the ability to sin or disobey God, their only purpose is to worship and follow God's commands...Number2: If satan told you to love God, Follow his commands, don't worship a Man, destroy idols, kill magicians, be kind, give charity, be humble, pray and fast....and at the same time teach you to curse Satan in every chapter of the Quran, and in prayers, and even when you enter the restroom (belief it or not)...That's fine, we'll follow satan and you follow pagan roman rituals (Sol invectus/ Venus/ 3 essences/ The man god/ the winter solstice/Saturnalia/ and santa claus....), when you kill the monotheists and follow the emperor's wishes (constantine) to have pagan holidays turned into christian, and pagan gods and platonic philosophies turn a prophet of God into God himself to make conversion easy in the roman empire...don't talk to me about satan. number3: yeah, the prophet copied from Christianity but it only copied the right info and not the wrong ones (historic/ scientific/ geographic/ linguistic....), go watch the scientific facts from the Quran (do some research).... number: yes the christian and the jews in their times that died before the last prophet came, the jews with Moses, and the Christians with jesus (they were monotheists by the way) not the J AND C who knew the message of the prophet and still want to stay J and C, that's not allowed (you follow the prophet of your time, and it's the time of Mohammed peace be upon him), even jesus says it in the bible : I was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (not for you).....But the quran says about Mohammed: we have only sent you as a Mercy to the worlds....as for the hadith: yes it is true, but you belief that everyone who doesn't belief in Jesus as his lord and savior will go to hell, so you have no advantage here as well.

[@gumbyshrimp2606]

no

[@nperium9886]

Are you a big David Wood fan RZ?

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Yes

[@nperium9886]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 Based

[@olekcholewa8171]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 YOU SEEEEEEE THIS IS THE PROOOOF

[@nijikabestpopeweeb]

8:07 So true!!! I love Pope Francis!!! :DD

[@boundevin4421]

yo im there FORG

[@goblinoide]

Pope Francis isn't liberal? lmaoooo

[@jasonfrederick7333]

Djinnbrain

[@joeyhardin5903]

Judaism worships the Father, but not the Son or Holy Spirit so it's hard to justify that it's really the same. And Islam's god is something similar to the Father, and claims to be the same as the God of Abraham, but is a corrupted version of him. And besides, the God of Abraham is a man by the name of JESUS CHRIST!

[@SilentNine]

God isnt a man according to the Old Testament

[@IbelieveinGod483]

Judaism doesn't worship the Father, they worship their own heretical version of God, just like the Muslims do.

[@SilentNine]

We dont worship the same God. You guys worship a Human. which is blasphemy is Judaism and Islam

[@JoWilliams-ud4eu]

That human is literally God

[@SilentNine]

@@JoWilliams-ud4eu not according to Judaism and Islam

[@JoWilliams-ud4eu]

@SilentNine Judaism and Islam are cringe. Christ is lord. But, let me ask you this, if God became a man, would you worship him, or would you refuse because he's a man?

[@CopticPrince-hh2yi]

hell no, we don't worship the same god as muslims, sorry my catholic brothers and sisters but screw st.Tomas in this point

[@HeavyHeartsShow]

Short answer, no

[@AryanNaik1415]

15 min ago 250 views bro fell off 😢

[@happybeejv]

What about reverse marcionism where they worship Jehovah but they call him satan,

[@happybeejv]

Paul was a gnostic heretic, all his books should be removed from the canon, Luckily he never wrote Ephesians collossians timothy 1 & 2 titus or 2 Thessalonians so you can keep those

[@DrGero15]

No, but Jews and Muslims do worship the same God. Jews are allowed to enter into and pray in Mosques but not Churches.

[@AbstractEntityJ]

Even now with everything going on in Palestine?

[@Swiftninjatrev]

False... 💀💀💀

[@sammcfarlane2494]

Jesus and God are father and son, they’re not two different people.

[@RyaNXD5617]

different persons, same God

[@sammcfarlane2494]

@ what? Did God duplicate himself and called the other duplicate his son?

[@alfieingrouille1528]

NO​@@sammcfarlane2494

[@douglascolquhoun8502]

​@sammcfarlane2494 No, The Son is eternally co-existant with the Father and Spirit.

[@Samuel-uq9mg]

@@sammcfarlane2494we aren’t modalists

[@Instabram108]

As a Muslim its very interesting to hear all the different Christian perspectives, especially the Orthodox one which apparently leans more heavily on the trinity. If any of the Christian views were the closest to the Islamic view, it would be the Thomistic Catholic view where we agree on the fact God exists, but very quickly begin to differ on the details. Idk if its interesting to anyone but from our perspective, Christians and Jews are our brothers in faith who do (or at least try to) worship the same God as us, but unfortunately human errors have gotten mixed up in their theology and so to clarify their belief and worship, the final revelation was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad SAWS so that all of humanity may understand and worship God in the correct way. Also I know its coming so if anyone wants to explain to me why the trinity is logical and necessary, go for it lmao its always interesting to think about

[@FromElsewhear]

Yes. They unknowingly and accidently worship Jesus. Cope.

[@33jwill3]

Nope.

[@happybeejv]

Speaking of revelation vs intellectualizing Fun fuct: Descarte didn't develop the scientific method through hard work it showed up in a dream Alfred Russell wallace didn't come up with evolution through natural selection from studying, It showed up in his dreams Friedrich August Kekulé didn't study the atom it showed up in a dream Dmitri Mendeleev did not develop the periodic table he saw it in his dreams Otto loewi didn't earn his knowledge of nerve signals being transmitted chemically, It showed up in his dreams Also photography was invented twice independently-simultaneously And so was the telephone And so was calculus And so was the radio And so was Dennis the menace

[@sasi5841]

Dreamchads vs. Sourcecels Dreamchads ftw

[@valorantsucks60]

KingdomCraft - Why Schoenberg is the greatest composer of all time

[@mowerds33]

I think Zoomer would say Bach is the greatest.

[@valorantsucks60]

@ oh i know, im just messing with him lol

[@بنمحمد-ك5ث]

First we've got to decipher which god we're talking about, because Christians have 3

[@Swiftninjatrev]

Short Answer: No Long answer: No. FROM THE RE TO THE DEEM TO THE ZOOM TO THE ER, 🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣 WHERE'S NICIENE THAT'S MY CREED ALWAYS DRAMA IN MY FEED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣 Get out!

[@Swiftninjatrev]

Anyway, look up the RZ thick of it parody 💀

[@clintparker]

I'm gonna bust your argument right here with these two verses that say the Trinity is pagan and man-made. "Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is One(Deuteronomy 6:4 AKA the Shema)." "God is Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth(John 4:24)." There's absolutely One God, one person in the Godhead. Jesus is the Name, and Father, Son, Spirit, etc. are Jesus' titles. How do we know this: "I have come in My Father's Name(John 5:43)," "And she shall bring forth a Son, and thou shalt call His Name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins(Matthew 1:21)," and "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My Name(John 14:26abc)," and no person ever saw God until Jesus. Now that Jesus ascended back to His throne with His glorified, physical body, we CAN see God and we WILL see God(Jesus)when we get to Heaven. Also another argument against the Trinity: A spirit ain't a person. Rather, a spirit is the ghost of a being, whether natural or supernatural. So God is absolutely, positively, mandatorily One God with no distinction of "persons". Really there's only One person, and the Oneness doctrine(the correct Biblical doctrine taught by the 12 Apostles before the pagan Romans corrupted Christianity by listening to Satan)is supported by Colossians 2:9 which says "For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." Him means Jesus. Jesus is our Father in creation, He's the Son in redemption, and His Spirit sanctifies us and guides us into all truth so we can eventually stop sinning altogether. All the positions of the Godhead are summed up through Jesus Christ