Do external recorders improve your videos?

[@Andyax]

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[@vladimirkovalchukdp5467]

Hello guys. I need your help!!! Tell me please, can i record video from a Panasonic gh5s to SanDisk portable pro 1 or 2 Tb external disk? I can't find information about this(...

[@truecuckoo]

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cuckoomusic beard lookin good even in 8bit 😂

[@Andyax]

Thanks for taking the time to join the shooting :D You were a perfect 10-bit model.

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[@clifftotten7609]

Fantastic video. One thing about long GOP is that it sacrifices and macroblocks the shadows first and then moves its way up the brightness scale the more stressed it gets. A great test would be lifting shadows in a very low light scene. Here is where ProRes will beat H.264 more soundly. Scenes in daylight will not be as noticeable as color grading night shots with deep shadows. GREAT VIDEO!

[@chovuse]

Yes the option to record ProRes RAW and bypassing those camera internal h.254 codecs entirely seems great and has me considering the EVA 1 even if its out of my financial range

[@WhySteve]

Haha in the end, you did get your fans, so wholesome! Haha. Man I love you guys, I always come back watching older videos, wishing I could also start a film company with my friends!

[@gcprost]

I think you presented this information well. I use Atomos recorders primarily because of the edit friendly codec and the monitor tool set. I shoot live theatre, concerts and dance recitals with multiple cameras. If I had to create proxies or transcode my footage it would take a very long time. With a high quality monitor I can be sure that my focus and exposure are perfect.

[@elkwyre]

I agree 👍 right tool for the job! For weddings and similar type work I think the Atoms would be overkill

[@crossnetworkllc]

Yes, it's true! It does improve the video quality because it bypasses the internal compression of your camera when it records to cards. I have done a test with an Panasonic AF100 and it looks way better. And your footage is in industry standard format right off the back. The only downside is file size are humugous so if you are transferring to someone, be prepared to wait while it goes

[@scottabreitbarth]

Everything I've used for my gh4 rig, I've gotten by watching your channel. You've got a fan in Seattle!

[@HeathcliffBlair]

Very good video. Thanks. As with other test videos I've seen, it looks like 10bit codecs don't provide any distinct advantages except for green screen work or grades involving extreme/crazy colour shifts and FX. Nevertheless, the Atomos looks like a great monitor/recorder combo, but the GH5/GH5s internal codecs are extremely efficient in themselves, both file size wise and image quality wise, even at 8bit. I almost wish they weren't - it would give me an excuse to buy one of Atomos' nice recorders. : ) Thanks again.

[@KHarm]

Andy. Your videos are truly inspiring. You also investigate things not so popular and then make it very interesting. I am now considering external recording.

[@vaidehiarts]

Would love to see a follow up video with Prores RAW flavours thrown in the mix

[@pal2tech]

I love your video style. Really nice job.

[@neilieboy2]

3 Months ago on the EVA1 vs GH5 Video - I asked about making this precise video. Thank you for doing so. And my mention. (joke I never got one.... ah well....). Here's another idea. Rode lapel microphone with the invisiLav mounting system, stuck to your skin - recording the audio on a smartphone app. V's more expensive wireless systems. I use both. I know which I prefer... I think many of your followers will thank you for it. ;-) Keep up the good work.

[@breezebryan1851]

i just like the way andy explain in his tutorial so very nice, thanks for this brother

[@Andyax]

I recommend watching this video in 4k and on a big screen to get the most out of the tests :) One of the rewards on Patreon is to get a downloadable "uncompressed" version of each new video. Check out our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/Andyax Here is the camera gear we used in this video: bhpho.to/2JIfqUY 🎥 And here is our cat sweater store! hehe ^^ shop.spreadshirt.no/ZeldaSalto/

[@chef_maruf]

I loved the end bit, I knew you're popular but the way you acted like no one showed up and you're standing alone made me a bit of emotional and then the fun bit came with all those fans of yours Cheering you up!

[@MarvinNeumannOfficial]

I really really love your videos! Seriously, I have been watching them for such a long time and it is so amazing what you do :) Thank you and love send from Germany :)

[@ant697]

MinderestingPictures Great comment 👍

[@mariohawat]

Cuckoo lead me to this video, and now i'm a fan! I always watch camera reviews and videos, but i have to say, none were this informative AND soothing at the same time, thank you and subscribed!

[@Andyax]

Thanks Mario :)

[@kylesimukka]

Can confirm, a fresh cup of coffee and a 4k monitor is a great way to process this information. The blocking pattern that's present on the internal footage is also a result of the VQ algorithm for that codec. The best way I like to describe whats happening is by using the water and hose analogy. The actual camera sensor is like a fire hose with how much data it's able to capture and output, but the camera's internal processor, bus lane, buffer, and SD card can only handle a garden hose. So the internal processor uses a codec to compress the data from a fire hose into a garden hose. Excellent video, and I really appreciate the side by side comparisons. Now I just need to fix my Patreon account so I can get access to the "uncompressed" version!

[@Andyax]

Perfect Kyle. Glad to see you here. Thanks for the comment ☕

[@birofilm]

Nice production and I liked your ending comments and VJUS clips too. I watched on a 55 inch HD TV. Sorry to miss your Patreon Q & A this morning, I viewed it later.

[@peterpahn123]

Incredible great video! No glorifying "review" but a VERY thorough and neutral comparison. Great work!

[@dominofan2181]

Congratulations! It is so awesome that you reached 250k subscribers!!!

[@juanmarcosvs]

Nice video. Waiting for some footages with EVA1 and Apple ProRes Raw.

[@MuwexTech]

This was awesome video! Enjoyed, relaxed and had a good time! Thanks a lot! Cheers from Finland, PERKELE! :D

[@Andyax]

PERKELE! 😝

[@edge88]

Watched the video while drinking a cup of brazilian coffee on my breakfast, as reccomended. ;) Finally I see a video test that answers my questions about using an external recorder on panny cameras. I had the idea to get the GH4 and, after a while, with more money, get an external recorder so I can get the 10bit Prores from the camera. But I see that, for my type of work, that is more run and gun, it would not make any huge diffrerence. I love your channel dude, you make everything so simple and easy to watch. thanks a lot! Cheers from BR ;)

[@popptrp]

The GH5s is absolutely amazing for the 4/3 sensor ! Thanks, for a great comparison video !!

[@trevorpinnocky]

Terrific. Thorough, very informative and easy to watch. Not an easy combination.

[@DanielAx]

It's nice to have a recorder but as you said the benefit is to minor for the added bulkyness in handheld situations.

[@ISRAADVISUALS]

lit video...no wonder you take your time to create such good content for us...just keep it going...we are with u in your journey..

[@TheTravel4fun]

Andy, great comprehensive review. Wishing you great success.

[@Navinvisuals19]

Nice to see you back again

[@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785]

"This is a video that should be enjoyed with a cup of coffee." *Literally paused the video and made myself a cup of coffee

[@eganeggzythornycroft1084]

I couldent be the only one

[@BTMovieSecondChannel]

You are the perfect viewer.

[@carlpasha]

Ditto!

[@alexkilpatrick6776]

I decided to then cast this video to my tv and have a cup of coffee instead of watching on my phone

[@antonlasy7501]

Opened the video at work, saw "must be enjoyed with coffee", postponed to watch at home and liked immediately ! Yeeeah!!

[@Andyax]

Perfect ☕☕ :)

[@helloyujia]

Haha! The first sequence suddenly makes me relax! At first, I was so stressing because I can't decide which one to buy.

[@ed6164]

I have always been a fan of you and your informative (and entertaining) videos! Great work!

[@hoodaffairstv]

10:13 the gh5s prores looks to have a more magenta than the all intra

[@AlbondigaFilms]

amazing comparisons, thanks buddy! greetings from Chile

[@RedAutumn]

Thank you very much for your great videos! =)

[@SuperMouseDV]

Thankyou for this test. It is helping me make a decision on my new camera setup..

[@justoalejandrogonzalez5097]

This was ridiculously well explained. Liked, suscribed, etcetera, etcetera.

[@aroundthegoodworld]

I love how you provide value through your videos! You're such a great inspiration for my channel. Keep it up :)

[@findJLF]

This was the best explanation for what 10-bit really means.

[@PaperWorkPictures]

is it possible to know video has color banding because mostly we can't detect minor bandings......is there anyway to know how to detect color banding on video....and how to remove banding....

[@1valnes165]

6:10 i thought that was christopher nolan walking in

[@relaxationmeditationandsle7743]

There are many reasons to have a external recorder and especially an Atomos device. First, the Shogun Inferno would certainly be overkill for the GH4 or GH5. Also working with the ProRes codec is much easier and faster on most computers. Also as the cost continues to drop on SSD's they are more reliable and generally have more capacity than memory cards. Finally, there are so many assisting features on the monitor, it's a no brainer. Too many features that were not covered in this video but a nice job overall.

[@TolgaBedirVideos]

very great video, but most important question can be, what's is the difference between sony or any v90 sd card for mov. recording and external recorder - Prores? Probably you will say external recorder has many option and even I shot video in mov. files internally later fcpx or software must to change mov. to apple Prores something? it won't be same quality accourding to external recording, because external recording can shot directly Prores mode and fcpx won't need to convert or do something with algorithm? so ex. recording beats ssd cards even I shot mov internally 10 bit 442 /400mbs.? Am I missing something?

[@funkysugar1983]

good job man! thx 4 testing. regards from China.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

I use the Ninja Inferno to record 10-bit ProRes HQ. So, yes, I get much better quality recording with the Ninja Inferno. As your tests showed, using 10-bit gives you way more power in post with color grading and green screen. Which is what you want if you're a serious film maker. If you're only interested in vlogging, it won't matter.

[@Andyax]

Which camera are you using with the Ninja Inferno? :)

[@yoasnicholas]

OMG, now I know why there're such that things on post! Thanks you so much.

[@JonasHummelstrand]

While All-I recording may seem to be preferable, unless you have a really high bitrate the result is often a worse-looking video with more compression artefacts. Since all-I recording uses intra-frame compression, every frame is basically a stand-alone JPEG image. So a bitrate of 200 Mbps for a 50 fps video gives you only 500 KB/frame. If you instead use inter-frame compression with the same bitrate, the codec can apply the 25 MB of data per second in the frames and the parts of the frames where there's a lot of detail, while at the same time saving data by analysing parts of frames that stay the same over several frames.

[@moss_bee]

How did you Grade that shot in 3:10

[@jenshendriks9092]

Is there more use of these things for things like a Sony A7 mark I. Which only shoots AVHD codec internally

[@shantamsridev]

7:30 Can anybody tell me the name of the song?

[@AdamLoretz]

Nice work. Interesting and fun video. 8 bit Video is pretty robust!

[@sangyaltashi4291]

huge fan of you... keep waiting for the next video... thanks

[@philowww]

The finding fellowship of the panasonic scene was really ackward LOL keep up the goodwork. By the way how can you find the statistic for camera user by brand location?

[@larsosejohansen]

I miss you, hopefully everything is going good and you will be back strong after summer holiday!

[@mychalsimmons4177]

Thanks Andy your videos always help.

[@DominusFeles]

Wait a second, I bought a GH4 used a couple of years ago and when looking through the menus it turned out that the previous owner had bought the v log activation for it. But does that not give any advantages compared to the cinelike d when recording internally?

[@dpc4548]

The gh4 was geared to be more of a cinema camera within the confines of it still being part of the gh line. No stabilisation, native sdi, 10bit video, great preamp. So, if you are using it for video, it's not expected to use internal recording unless you're going for broadcast. The Grand Tour uses the GH4 in 8bit for this reason. The camera fits into professional settings in a way that the GH5 and GH5s can't. It's still my favourite consumer camera for video work with blackmagic's pocket 4k coming second. To answer the question directly, if you're shooting internally, V-log L will degrade your footage as opposed to cinelike d.

[@DominusFeles]

@@dpc4548 Thanks mate!

[@photosvein]

Konge 😀 gir deg en sub så kanskje jeg lærer litt mer om video. Er helt fersk på dette med video egentlig, skyter med Olympus og har ett par videoprosjekter jeg håper å kunne realisere en dag.

[@sairam-te6jn]

Hi bro...i want to know the key steps in shooting for web series originals......can u help me....

[@RevivalWarriorCashae]

I'm your new fan from the Philippines!

[@MichaelJohnsenOslo]

All the examples in the kitchen setting looked better in 8-bit :D

[@jelmur9021]

Good source you used

[@AlbertVicol]

Strange I find the channel now, Love it! I should geek around with my a6500 too in Gruneløkka haha

[@obikenobi1906]

Great video, nice work. Do you know what the 4k, DCI, HRF and RAW options their including there bit depth and MB/s ?…when recording onto the Shogun from the EVA. We are comparing FS5 to the EVA at present but I can’t find all the info. I thought you may know where to find this information in one place. Thanks :)

[@mychalsimmons4177]

It’s a little hard to see a lot of difference because of the KZbin compression too but I get it. Maybe the better choice here would be a Panasonic G85. It maybe better than the Gh4

[@diarabir3544]

Hi🙏 Does Lumix GH4 records prores raw via Atomos Shogun 7?

[@pikix]

wich hdmi cable should i buy to use 4k 60 proreshq on a gh5s ?

[@langohr9613ify]

Back in the days i used a ninja with a canon 5D iii. You could tell a big differenz with a soft grade. But nowadays the qualiti bump is way less high. The shogun is a nice screen and you can use ssd's. But besides that, your money is probably spend better on other stuff with small projekts. And you have to deal with way bigger files. And so you need more storage. having switched from an bmpc4k to the gh5 it is really nice to be able to record 3 hours with 2 120 gb sd cards. The bmpc4k lasted 1hour with pro res hq with 240gb ssd

[@ellarpc]

Don't worry, you have a fan here.

[@mihaim3587]

This should have been watched at a coffee :) I watched it turning photos to a time lapse :)

[@syedarmaghanhassan4652]

Thanks for sharing mate. I have an opinion: there is no difference noticeable by the audience who watches movies, films, commercials, videos. It is just the nerds who want to do research on this stuff, and never produce a shortfilm or any othe thing.

[@bumayyas8525]

andyax is there a deterrent between all-i & longGB in gh5S ?

[@MaksChernykh]

Wow, you are so smart about videomaking. I should learn all of this, thanks a lot for information, greate video and good information for me.

[@ISRAADVISUALS]

i just wish i was there to meet u..as your fan..and give a hug for the love i have for u

[@CastFromTheHip]

Excellent, great info!

[@ScaramouchedaVinci]

Is prores also for Windows possible, or only for mac?

[@jeffreber3205]

Andyax, is shooting magic lantern raw on a canon 5d still relevant compared to a new camera such as a GH5. Or would you say magic lantern is outdated now?

[@LiewKimWeng]

Hi Andy, would you pick the Ninja Inferno or Ninja V for a GH5? Cant’t decide which to get! Or should I just save and get the Shogun Inferno? Hope to hear your recommendations and inputs. Much thanks! ;)

[@AllThingsKen]

Ive been trying to figure out what song that is for a year.

[@pdlrkpdlrk9971]

I'm about to watch the on my dell xps Katy Lake with 4k resolution to enjoy this 😃

[@dosomethingintrersting3697]

Thank you for your great work!

[@JSGlobalMedia]

Do you prefer Canon over Sony?

[@RichardWait]

Nice work!

[@DavisTibbz]

Also please do a test between Prores 422, HQ and LT

[@gocat6761]

It's really good review. and good reference to video work.

[@nornorminerr4248]

Does the external recorder also improves bitrate, like for example in canon 90d?

[@Andyywu]

wow.. this is amazing.. so it means in terms of quality 4K 25p are better than 4K 50p internally?

[@mikaels-p6765]

Var dere utenfor Nordisk film shortcut as?

[@ployonion]

Amazing information - Thank you

[@michaelfrymus]

How do I know if my Sony a6500 is good for external recording?

[@GreenoSky]

So, can i connect to my a6500 and record 10bit prores raw ?

[@entertimentsciencetechnolo5119]

Rest In Peace Eskild I miss you! :'(

[@dp54321]

Thank you for the helpful videos!

[@teun9380]

Love this video keep going on!

[@NameAndAnyNumber]

Had a moment before a shoot and decided to watch your video. Made a cup of of coffee and pressed play. And then intro)))

[@lindamuvic8110]

Can you shoot raw with the Eva hdmi?

[@Junabku]

Well , i think those extrrnal recorders cant hold long time productions w/o running out of battery....correct me if im wrong..

[@carlpasha]

I'm late to the party, and I'm sure you know by now... it uses a pair of hot-swappable batteries so just just keep replacing the one that's discharged with a fully charged one. You're only limited by the number of charged batteries you have to hand. Alternatively, if indoors, run it from the mains or if it's dry outside use an extension cable though I doubt you'd be mobile enough to "run and gun'. I'm very fond of my Ninja Flame!

[@michaelammons4397]

Is there a way to record 10 bit by connecting the camera to a computer?

[@vegardpedersen]

Lærerik video som vanlig! Trist å høre at det ikke kom norske fans bort til deg på Gullsnutten. Jeg ville gått bort til deg hvis jeg var på gullsnutten. Kanskje jeg ser deg på IBC i August? :-)