DO I FINALLY UNDERSTAND HEADLESS GUITARS? | Legator Ghost Review

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

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[@cathedraldarkness]

Great review! I’ve been researching my next guitar and I’m totally going to take the plunge on one of these!

[@MetalMike87]

The Greek philosopher Archimedes said “Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.” That's the same principle for the guitar feeling way lighter. The headstock is at the end of the lever and applies a lot of torque respect to the fulcrum (the neck joint). Simply as that

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Interesting. I wonder if that effect is further multiplied by a reverse headstock. Most of my guitars are reverse and there has to be some effect of lengthening the bass strings over the treble strings.

[@MetalMike87]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial on an engineering standpoint it would be interesting to check the difference ... also between different headstock shapes. For sure, multiscale/extended range would have more problems due to the length of the lever. While 7/8/9 strings guitars would have more problems due to additional weight of the tuners (in addition to the point above) At the end of the day, the whole balance of the guitars depends on both the position of the fulcrum (which may differ from playing while sitting vs standing), the shape of neck/body and the weight of the parts. I think the main problem is related to the randomness of wood density which is not predictable. Same woods can have a wide range of density which results in same guitar shapes having completely different outcome ( SG is a case study on this 😂)

[@komraderymcdermott5903]

The first videoI saw of yours was the 8 string legator, and it feels like its every time you've had a legator its been even more crazy than the last, and I fucking love it. it made me pull the trigger on my headless G6OF and I'd never let it go, my only gripe is the satin body but that's noting a poly lacquer can't fix. Fully agree on the headless effect though, its just a vibe that you get with the instrument. The snap, the ergo, the clarity and tuning stability is unreal! Great video as always!

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

No way? That was my very first Legator and first 8 String. Definitely agree I've had a great run of Leggies and have another here now that I've once again put my money where my mouth is and bought for myself 👀👀👀

[@komraderymcdermott5903]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficialI can’t wait to see which one! I wish they still made guitars in that blue and white finish, it’s my favourite finish thus far for me :’)

[@12to3Guitars]

Master's Apprentice is definitely my stairway to heaven whenever I test a guitar 😄 great review, mate. The headless thing has interested me for a long time as a hobby player who plays mostly sitting down at home. Ergonomics seem way more important the older i get. This is one of the better looking headless models I've seen. Sounds great!

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

My new headless 7 String arrived just before Xmas and I'm shooting the video on it this week 👀👀👀

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Love your playing, mate. It's amazing how good your ambient clean chops are, given the thumping right hand you have on those fat chugs.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Thanks so much mate I'm technically not a great guitar player, I have mates who can run rings around me with their skills so I try to make up for it by just playing things that move me emotionally. Sometimes it works 🤣

[@averyplaysguitar]

It's such a beautiful guitar. I've been a big fan of headless guitars since I got my cheap little Harley Benton Dullahan, they're just so much better when it comes to ergonomics and balance. I'd love to get a 7 or even 8 string headless guitar because I just know that they'd be so much easier to handle than a regular guitar of that size. Really loved the review as always, glad to see you're so happy with it, and I'll definitely be checking in for that hypothetical review of a headless guitar you may or may not have bought.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Thanks so much for the support mate if I had in theory bought myself a 7 string headless I would theoretically already be working on a review of it 👀👀👀

[@ProdigalReturn]

I own a Legator N7FX which is pretty much the same guitar but with the a headstock and its in the black widow finish... and it's amazing. I own a B.C. RICH Shredzilla Prophecy Archtop which has fanned frets and a killswitch as well just not an L.E.D. my other 7 string is a 1200$+ Solar S series. All are amazing!! Necks are totally all different!! I own two LTDS a EC1000 and BLACK METAL ARROW. And a Signature Joe Duplantier Charvel. All guitars are mint but my 7s are just.... OMFG. I'm literally looking to get a new guitar... I wanna continue to get a different brand and shape every time so I'm looking at a Kiesel, Ormsby, or Ibanez but I'm itching for another Solar if that means anything.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

@@ProdigalReturn What a collection! A man after my own heart ❤️

[@ProdigalReturn]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial you got a top 3 you've played so far?!

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

@@ProdigalReturn Checkout my end of year Awards video I uploaded on New Year's Day!

[@xMIRAKx]

Looking at this exact model but in an 8 string configuration. I think you've got me sold, sir.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Let us know how you get on if you do pull the trigger! Still got my 7 String Ghost anniversary and apart from fiddly string changes I love it!

[@nickguitarrist750]

Really nice review! The guitar looks amazing Live louder seems to have a lot of legator models, good to know.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Thank you and for watching! Until 2021 the only way to get a Legator in the UK was to import so it's great they are now distributed here.

[@JamesFlorio-ti8gc]

That guitar 🎸 looks incredible 😮 awesome demo brother. Fishmans sound crazy good on that thing. Fretboard is pure 🔥 yes yes yes Legator take our money

[@Dimitar_Tsanev]

The thing you played at about 13:26 reminded me of Cursing Akhenaten by After the Burial. I don't know whether that was intentional but props if it was.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

I was just noodling but you're right I just Spotified that song and the intro is exactly the same! 😂

[@Centipede_Solaire]

great review as always!

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Thanks mate!

[@JD-vj4go]

I'm out of space for guitars but I like that thing.

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Hey mate, I bought a Headrush Core on your recommendation, and I absolutely love it. I've done some clones of my PRS ARCHON, including a rig using your favoured IR (2 off 5 pres). Would love you to check it out. On the cloud under 'PRS Archon (clone) Heavy and Clean Rig'. Cheers big fella.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Will do! What's your username on HR Cloud mate?

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

@ChilledGuitarReviews JDH88 mate. This Headrush Core is the most fun I've had with a modeller. So much damn fun.

[@traintofailure9540]

Fair play this looks stunning, I've unfortunately had bad experiences with 2 legator ms guitars but I don't let that colour my judgement , I'd love to try one of these out maybe in a 7 string 😀

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Which models and year of manufacture did you have issues with mate?

[@traintofailure9540]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial a ninja 200 8 string and one of the recent cali cobalt open pore 7 string p series Ms ninjas with the reverse headstock

[@donnywth]

sick vid, and sick finish dude

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Thank you my friend!

[@christophermichaels4144]

Can you do a review on the ormsby Dino Cazares model 💪😊

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

I've come so close to buying one of those a couple of times! The purple single pickup one 👌. I will persevere...

[@davidp6007]

Yo! That's a kick ass axe mate. I am glad you remembered the hack to change strings!! It's not at all more problematic than an orthodox guitar. I can only agree with you on Korean made guitars and on the value/quality you get with a legator...its just bloody good! I have a ghost 7, tuned in drop A and its just what you described. Mine has Legator pups and its ready to mod for active pups..but you know what? I haven't done it, even though I thought would...cos they sound great man! One thing I have to criticise about the guitar, and it would be interesting to hear your view. I play, mostly, classical style, I saw you did too.. albeit not always... don't you find the tunners digging into your leg?? They do into mine! A simple accessory to cover them would do and I might get it 3D printed. That is my only criticism of that guitar; I own many and 3 more headless from other brands but...the ghost 7 beats them all! And you are taking rubbish mate it doesn't look too small on you. It looks just fine man, just fine....and great play too. Nice one! Take care 😀🤘

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

My new Headless 7 arrived just before Christmas and I've completed my first string change on it and yes it is extremely fiddly the first time but I remembered your tips and think I've got it down now. Shooting the video on it this week watch this space 👀👀👀 P.s haven't noticed any leg digging issues yet!

[@davidp6007]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial Cool man. I'll be watching out for the vid...I should get an alert for it so...I wont be missing it Oh well, maybe it is just the way I hold the guitar as far as leg stabbing is concerned 😀 Take care and keep chugging out riffs bro 🤘🤘 and thanks for replying. Ciao!

[@ChrisTopherBunnell]

The door broke off on my 9v compartment in the first couple months of owning my Ninja. I contacted Legator to order a replacement, they said they were out of stock and they never responded after that. I recently found what battery compartment they use and ordered it. Perfect match replacement. They use the Kaish brand 9v compartments sold on Amazon for $9. No wonder the plastic door hinge broke. They use the cheapest option available.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

That's good info! Tbh I have never seen a guitar use a better quality battery door than that apart from the fancy metal ones ESP Japan use. I need to contact Leggy to order a replacement bridge screw for my Ghost soon as I rounded one out setting it up

[@ewanbyrne]

Its interesting nearly everyone I've seen apart from had multiple legator issues coming from the factory, bad setup and build issues ect ect. You must be really lucky. Legator seem to be shit on by pretty much everyone.

[@ewanbyrne]

Side note I just got my very first 7 string, with evertune and my first fishman pickups oooooooh what fun! an ESP LTD 1007 MH ET

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Are these models bought/made after 2020? I know the brand moved factories after a bad period of years prior to that and have been among the best for build quality since then (no brand being perfect all the time though of course). Checkout the Legator user group on Facebook.

[@AndromedaTV]

Is this guitar good quality compare with strandberg ?

[@JD-vj4go]

I started playing headless because I'm an old man now and the light weight and balance really help. My strandberg weighs just over 4 lbs. String changes are a pain. I'd rather setup a Floyd :)

[@donray8914]

The string changes on my mayones hydra are very easy. I think headless string changes arent bad at all. As easy as any normal guitars with locking tuners.

[@andreazullo2170]

At almost 16:00 minutes you talk about "coil split" but the push pull is for voice 2, which is a "passive sound" or did you modify the wiring in order to have an actual coil split?

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

All Legators I've owned with Fishmans come with the push pull pot wired so the "Out" position on the Neck pickup actually engages the Coil Split and not Voice 2 like it does with the Bridge pickup. This one was the same.

[@andreazullo2170]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial thank you for the prompt answer. And which sound are you going to split? The voice 1 or the voice 2?

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

@@andreazullo2170 To my ears it's always sounded like a split of Voice 1 but I've not actually confirmed this with Legator.

[@andreazullo2170]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial I've got this same guitar as you should know/remember. On another guitar I have got the Fishman tosin abasi which sports the voice 3 and that is much way thinner and clear

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Not for me. This channel is, however. Good stuff big man

[@quentincroisez8061]

Great review !!!!!!!!!!!!!! what kind of tuning are u using here ?

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Drop D standard 👌👌

[@recluserick]

This guitar definitely looks like a set neck.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

You're right it's actually a Set-Thru construction and I mistakenly said Neck-Thru in the video.

[@DingusMcBrungus]

Why do so many people demo guitars with reverb'd distorted rhythm playing? Who the hell puts reverb on distorted rhythms lol

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

There is zero Reverb on the distorted sounds in this review? ... just a touch of Delay. It even says that in the caption at 7:40.

[@LandsOfDespair]

Just please, stop spreading myth about tonewood. It is an electrical instrument, not an acoustic one. Wood used in construction here has an influence only on price, looks and weight. As well as neck connection type - 0 meaning for the tone.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Completely disagree and I can show you waveforms of DI'd instruments to demonstrate that difference. HOWEVER, the real question is how much of that difference is perceptible to the listener? Especially once you add gain and multitrack production to further muddy the waters.

[@LandsOfDespair]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial Difference is 0 in any case: solo or in mix with all added stuff :)

[@LandsOfDespair]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial Electronics - that's what matters: pickups, wires, switches, pots :)

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

​​@@LandsOfDespairAnd what are all those electronics doing? Picking up the vibrations of the guitar and translating them into an analogue signal. You're telling me all guitars vibrate to the exact same resonance and frequency? I maintain that whilst the end point is always the same the starting point has massive variation. If construction and woods really made zero difference we'd all be playing the exact same slabs of mahogany with a set neck. I will concede though that beyond the player with the guitar in his hands and the people in the room with him. The differences become much harder to discern from that starting point.

[@LandsOfDespair]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial In electrical guitar pickups pick up changes in field caused by metal string moving in all sorts of directions. They do not even pick any sound, unless they are microphonic xD

[@qred9301]

In my opinion, there is some kind of incompleteness in headless guitars. We're just used to regular guitars. Maybe if I had played it for a while, my opinion might have changed.

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

I felt the same initially. And whilst I'm sure the sound/feel won't be for everyone I can certainly say my mind is now changed on the matter.

[@LandsOfDespair]

Such a shame this beauty arrived with broken off headstock 😢 😂 Their guitars look really sick, jokes aside!

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

I should have used this as a clickbait title!

[@LandsOfDespair]

@@GuitarCinemaOfficial I will not tell anyone, you may have some headless 7-string coming in future ;)

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

​@@LandsOfDespair👀👀👀👀

[@metalfather8139]

You either are getting chosen instruments or have no experience or biased.. I've bought several Korean guitars in the last 8 yrs played guitar for 28 yrs an had many junk made poor made

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

I've bought over a dozen Korean made guitars with my own money in the past 3 years and only ever had 1 that was poorly made, the Schecter C7 Blood Moon, that I did a full video about on the channel showing how rubbish it was. I can only speak on my own experiences and no brand is immune to putting out a sub-standard guitar. I don't consider there to be any biases and I make it clear in each video where the Guitars have come from and what my own personal opinions are. Checkout that Blood Moon video and you'll see...

[@metalfather8139]

@ChilledGuitarReviews that makes sense the worst one I had was a schecer kieth merrow km6 hybrid ufo grey. So disappointing... maybe I'll try a different brand certain factorys may be the key

[@metalfather8139]

I live 30 min from sweetwater the schecters there must be sorted before they get them because we didn't get garbage at least while I was working there . Have lagator changed in the last 5 yrs? I don't know how long you have been in guitars, but your videos are very nice

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

@@metalfather8139 Thank you my friend, Legator unfortunately had some deserved bad press up around 2017 to 2019. From then they changed factories and have been among the best and most consistent for build quality in my experience at least with the Korean stuff (affordable models are from China but I've not tried one yet). Was that KM you had around a 2020/21 serial number? My Blood Moon was and I've heard of quite a few rough Schecters from that period.

[@metalfather8139]

@ChilledGuitarReviews unfortunately I put allot of work into it and sold it... I dont think I have the serial number... but also don't want to put a blinking light on whoever bought it... but lagators looks of late shure catch my eye