Do "Lukewarm" Christians Lose Their Salvation?

Do "Lukewarm" Christians Lose Their Salvation? | Revelation

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In this video, I explain a passage often cited to assert that eternal life can be forfeited. What does Revelation 3:16 mean? I pray this video provides context and clarity, while dispelling confusion concerning this subject. -OD
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@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

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@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-Jembai No, they’re not. kzbin.info/www/bejne/anPQg2x-l6mVo6s

@Charlie_Tea Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-Jembai no, they're not. Yeshua is coming for the natural or wild branches of O'Israel and not the "church". 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. - Matthew 15:24 KJV

@OkorieJoshua-yo3hw 8 ай бұрын

**Romans 3:23-31 (GNT):** "For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus. Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law. After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles. Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." **John 14:15-31 (GNT):** “If you love me, you will obey my Commandments. I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever." **Matthew 4:17 (Other Translations):** "From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'" (GNT) "From then on Jesus began to preach, 'Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near.'" (GNT) The message in Romans 3:23-31 emphasizes that we are saved by grace through faith alone, by the blood of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross. It states that our salvation is solely through Jesus, and our works do not earn our way to heaven. Jesus Christ's love for us led Him to take the pain of sinners and make us righteous through His blood. We are saved from hell, punishment, and judgment because of His love and sacrifice. We don't need to attribute our works to salvation; it is God's work on the cross that brings salvation. Regarding the quote "If you love me, keep my commandments," it reflects the importance of obeying Jesus, not for salvation but out of love and trust. Just as you trust your father's guidance, you obey Jesus because of your love for Him. Salvation is like a new birth in Christ, and once you accept it, it's a done deal. The focus should be on walking in the Spirit, loving your neighbors, and loving the Lord, not as a means of salvation, but as a response to the salvation already provided by Jesus. The core message is that salvation is through faith in Jesus alone, and we should strive for holiness and obedience out of love, not as a means to earn salvation.

@Ruben27780 6 ай бұрын

How come Christ described those believers as wretched, miserable, and blind? Were believers ever described with those words before? And they needed to be clothed with white raiment, arent born again believers already clothed with that at salvation? I believe in eternal security, just confused on this passage still

@iwannadrinkfromyourwideeye2635 15 күн бұрын

What's your take on the first church mentioned in chapter 3 He that overcometh I will not blot their names out of the book of life. 1 John 5:4-5 is clear that those who have overcome the world are those who have believed on Christ. So is the book of life got to do with salvation or reigning with Christ? The church of Sardis I'm referring too and thank you brother for your time.

@dlay6267 Жыл бұрын

The simplicity of the gospel, JESUS paid my debt by his blood. I believe it. Therefore I am saved.

@jm7578 Жыл бұрын

Saved eternally

@Livingingrace Жыл бұрын

Amen D

@jessicasierra6092 Жыл бұрын

So your also telling me I can be a murderer, not repent but accept Jesus as my lord and I’ll go to heaven. Cmon Ask the Holy Ghost, he shall set you from. Also remember that the bible says in the last days there will be a strong delusion. Examine your hearts

@Livingingrace Жыл бұрын

@@jessicasierra6092 repent mans change your mind. Have you turned from all your sins? 1 lie will keep the unjustified out of heaven. Any single 1 sin equals deserving of Hell. You think your works are equal to what Jesus did and making you deserving of Heaven? That's basically the sum of your claim. You need definitely examine yourself and get a better concept of sin, God's perfect standard and how much you sin, every single day just like all mankind.

@Livingingrace Жыл бұрын

@@jessicasierra6092 Are you sinless in thought as well? Do you always do what you know to be right? Do you never murmur/complain because we are commanded to do every single thing without complaint? Do you Love every person in your life equal to yourself at all times? Pro 24:9 KJV The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men. Jas 4:17 KJV Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. Phi 2:14 KJV Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Romans 13: 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. If you think your works play any part you really to up your standard far above just not murdering, which you do when you hate others in your heart btw.

@niallbroussard6353 Жыл бұрын

Once our faith is in Christ alone to save us, we are forgiven of ALL transgressions FOREVER… thanks be to God🙏🏼

@jessicasierra6092 Жыл бұрын

@marcgotcalledout4058 Жыл бұрын

@@jessicasierra6092 Have you ever hated someone in your heart for wrong doing even for a moment?

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

Only God can save a person. He makes that decision, not us.

@dianetigert1310 10 ай бұрын

then why did Jesus tell John either return to your first love or he will remove his light, his candle stick, the holy spirit...?

@theodoreritola7641 6 ай бұрын

But when we do sin after we are saved are we not to confess that sin or sins to God to be forgiven?

@edgarnavarro1283 Жыл бұрын

Please do a how to be saved spanish version, there is alot of people i want to share this to. God bless you brother.

@spicy.sunday2814 7 ай бұрын

I second this

@lonia.5283 Жыл бұрын

I believe and trust our Lord Jesus Christ, He is my King and my Hope. I am not perfect, He is, thank You, God Almighty in Jesus Christ's Name. Amen ❤

@theodoreritola7641 5 ай бұрын

Yes he is very perfect . Praise our REDEEMER THE AWESOME LORD.JESUS CHRIST I GET VERY EXSITED KNOWING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OUR REDEEMER ..

@danstone8783 Жыл бұрын

This is one of those areas of scripture that shows what repentance is to the believer. Someone already saved by belief in Christ alone should repent of or turn from sins in their life so as to be able to grow in grace and be useful to God in their walk with Him.

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

If there's no eagerness to resist Satanic thinking something is wrong. Saved people confess their sin. They don't teach year after year that they never sin.

@plexx365 Жыл бұрын

@@trustintheLordJesus And who exactly is doing that?

@carlyd2300 Жыл бұрын

Is there only one church in revelation that makes it? I heard this the other day by an older lady. God warms all churches and only one makes it

@unknownwarrior757 11 ай бұрын

@@carlyd2300 may be... I don't know how many of the seven churches remain approved by God. But what I know is that all the time from Adam and Eve till now God has faithful chirch - His "invisible chirch" or in another words a believers that are spread in all the world and mostly they don't know each other. There is much harder (or may be even impossibile) for the devil to send his agents amongs them. Generaly all officially established churches are fail because the devil's agents. Thats why all the time God need to sifts the church and all that are His own just get out from it and after that they establish a new one... and with the time this repeats again and again. Of course, I am by no means saying that every so-called Christian church was founded by God. Has so many churches that are product of the devil.

@adamlawrence3427 10 ай бұрын

@@plexx365there are lots of religious preachers out there condemning their congregations with religious talk. It may not be them specifically saying "I never sin" but when they insist you are still on your way to hell as a Christian but they're not that's basically what they're saying anyway.

@anabanana7599 Жыл бұрын

Hope you're healing up nicely Onoroto 👍🤗💙

@gregorylatta8159 Жыл бұрын

Again and again you are teaching sound doctrine. Do not stop by the grace of God.

@JEBBY123IFY Жыл бұрын

Hope you feel better 🙏🎉❤️

@luciaramirez7402 Жыл бұрын

Your teachings are truly a blessing. May God continue to give you wisdom to teach His word. ♥️

@theodoreritola7641 5 ай бұрын

I wonder why so FEW Views though. This is the Truth. False teachers get way more views...

@iamachildofgodbecauseibeli2491 Жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝ God bless Revelation 3:19 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God) hit the spot.

@Bigeinla 3 ай бұрын

Amen my brother.

@DavidHuber63 Жыл бұрын

God's plan is Sound🙏🏽❤️

@GizmosShop Жыл бұрын

Another way to look at this is to bring in the context of the location, the Laodiceans were in the middle of two water sources, one was cold, and one was hot and when both of the sources got there, then the water was lukewarm. So cold water is refreshing. What is the gospel whenever you give it to somebody that is thirsty it is refreshing. So then hot water is medicinal. What is the gospel? Whenever you give it to someone who needs to be healed, it is healing so lukewarm seems to be apathy and they just don’t care anymore and they’re useless.

@JesusChristKing Жыл бұрын

From the New Covenant of faith in Jesus Christ’s shed blood for the remission of sins (which began at Pentecost), those who receive the Holy Spirit by faith are sealed until the day of redemption-the Rapture! We cannot lose our salvation, because we did not earn our salvation. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Amen.

@theodoreritola7641 6 ай бұрын

What about work out your own salvation with fear and trembling ?

@sadgreyhorse4934 Ай бұрын

Thank you for making these videos they help clarify doctrine for me. For a time I started to worry that I needed to repent turn from my sins and believe the gospel. I became fearful that I wasn't sincere enough to be truly saved. This I see is not true but a works based salvation. What can wash away my sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus and help me to understand the gospel better.

@cmoneycashout Жыл бұрын

In the Bible repentance is a changing of mind. In this context what does it mean for a church to repent or to have a repentive heart. This understanding confused me a little, thanks bro🙏

@keithdavis4683 2 ай бұрын

A hardened heart means that you blame God not seek him.

@DarthTwilight 9 ай бұрын

Okay, I see that there's a LOT of confusion about positional security. Let me see if I can straighten this out, because I spent about 6 years digging waaaay further than most people are willing to go to find an answer for this that isn't some cookie-cutter variation of one or another denomination's tradition, as opposed to the unadulterated Good News of Yeshua that's found in scripture. If someone is born again by the Spirit, G-d Himself would have to revoke the Promise for them to become "unsaved," or even for them to forfeit their position. This isn't some -ism's doctrine, this is the Gospel. Assuming that you can do something to positionally dislodge yourself, is to place salvation on your shoulders, be it even partially, when salvation is of the Lord (Psalm 3:8, Jonah 2:9). There's an egregious misunderstanding of applied faith in our Western culture, and a lot of it has to do with the reformation, Calvin, the theology of Arminius, and a misunderstanding of this tidbit: nobody that ACTUALLY holds to positional security is saying "go and sin all ya want!" There's no actual A or B debate in the exegetical dividing of scripture as to the part one plays in the salvific plan of G-d; but that doesn't mean one is devoid of responsibility to G-d, either. Our job is to believe and obey, but G-d does the saving and keeps the saved in that exact tense. There's no point system or scantron with G-d, as performance-based belief would have you believe. Counterintuitively enough, if you hold to having a stake to claim, it leaves one living a defeated, frustrated, angry, and fearful Christian life. If we look at Hebrews 9-12, Numbers 21, Genesis 37-50, Deuteronomy 5, Matthew 5-7, 1 John, John 3, and Ezekiel 18, we see a loving Father Who is not excusing sin, but Who definitely is not looking for reasons to keep people out of His family, either. (Hosea 6:6) The sacrifice of Yeshua, (The Passover Lamb who drank the fifth pesach cup of damnation on our behalf,) is sufficient. I contend this instead: There's a difference between knowing facts about G-d and actually KNOWING Him PERSONALLY. I spent most of my life thinking that I knew Him because I'd asked Him to save me, and deducing from that statement, one can easily conclude that I believed Him to be Messiah, intellectually-speaking. (In other words, I was being honesty dishonest, as is the case with anyone who claims to know Him, may know a metric ton about Him, but has never had a life-changing, thought changing, Spirit-endwelling encounter with Him that drives them to pursue Him, purely out of love, sans obligation.) The issue is that I didn't know him PERSONALLY. Now I do. I also spent plenty of time in what most people would consider a lukewarm state, and God had to make me so uncomfortable in that, that I would do anything and everything to get these questions settled once and for all, because positional security and how God views me were the two biggest reasons why I kept falling: I expected punishment, so I feared; which 1 John covers, as does Genesis 3:10. The majority of the problem with our idiomatic understanding of lukewarmness is generally either dishonesty about one's own salvation, or, with someone who is saved, it's not understanding the Gospel well enough in regard to relationship with your heavenly Father. Plenty of people will gladly argue until they are blue in the face for some -ism or another, because that's what granddaddy believed, or that's what they are afraid is true, or that's what they have convinced themselves that they believe, when they really don't even know what it means, yet they feel they're expected to DO the DEEDS of The Spirit, as opposed to ABIDE and BEAR the FRUIT of the Spirit. It's about understanding and resting in Christ, really. If ya think, "Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect" is gonna be even fractionally obtained by YOUR involvement, and you're expecting some undefined point of "accepted" lack of sin on your part, like your sin levels are akin to accepted viral load in a HIV patient, you're misunderstanding the Gospel. There is a MASSIVE difference between discipline and punishment. G-d doesn't punish His children, He corrects them. Anyone who says otherwise is either sorely mistaken about their theology, or they don't know YHWH. Punishment is qualitatively equivalent to damnation, no ifs, ands, or buts. It's akin to what Jonathan Edwards said regarding honey: (gross para.) There's a monumental difference between knowing the taste of honey and understanding a detailed description of such. I hope that helps.

@ronaldaddison2146 4 ай бұрын

Who is Yeshua?

@tmjacob2559 3 ай бұрын

@@ronaldaddison2146Jesus

@shadecompany9133 3 ай бұрын

The Lord Jesus

@DarthTwilight 3 ай бұрын

@@ronaldaddison2146 Yeshua Ha'Meshiach, aka, "Jesus Christ". Yeshua is his given Hebrew name, Ha'Meshiach is a title, where we get the word, Messiah. You'll also see "Rebbe, Melech Ha'Meshiach," which translates roughly to "Righteous, King-Savior." This is proof that the church-at-large is absolutely dislocated from the Jewishness of the Jewish Messiah. I suggest you poke around some of Rabbi Greg Hershberg's videos. He's a Messianic Jewish rabbi, and has a ton to say about that particular subject.

@christisenoughministries Ай бұрын

amen!!❤

@phileognosis 11 ай бұрын

My interpretation is that To be lukewarm is to be in a state where you feel like you don’t need anything. If a person is cold and they need warmth, if a person is extremely hot they need coolness, but a Lukewarm person thinks they are copacetic. And the point of this is that Jesus would rather people see their need for God’s grace. Believers aren’t poor blind in naked. This leads to the question what works make you lukewarm. If I go with your interpretation it makes me think about James 2 regarding unprofitable faith. I’m open to listen to understand your interpretation, I just don’t want to teach the wrong things.

@benwinnerkam6717 Ай бұрын

To have no zeal, no desire to live for Christ. Col 1.10 is being lukewarm

@debbiewareing1178 Ай бұрын

Do you have an email that I could write to? I have a couple of questions with regard to eternal security. I could use this space to ask but, I feel that the context could be detailed and long or it could be simple and straightforward. I have been struggling with OSAS due to a poor exposition from various believers that do not deal with the ‘apparent’ contradictions, such as ‘faith without works is dead’ and many other scriptures and parables that put emphasis on works! I know Gods word is not contradictory and therefore knew I was missing something. I know salvation and justification is…by grace alone, through faith alone by believing on Jesus Christ alone and His finished work, on the cross. His death, burial and resurrection! Your teaching that differentiates between salvation and discipleship, appears to answer those queries completely and makes total sense to me. My questions relate to Old Testament characters and their loss of salvation??? I would be grateful for your response whilst acknowledging that you have a busy ministry to pursue and iI is not always possible to respond to all questions. Should you not have an email you wish to disclose, I will happily ask away, I don’t want to hog the feed, that’s all.

@christologisch Жыл бұрын

Thx

@SavedInANanosecond. Жыл бұрын

💯

@Ruben27780 5 ай бұрын

People have different views on this but I find this one to be contextually harmonized with other parts of scripture. This view does not diminish the simplicity of the Gospel which is faith alone in Christ alone, but it rather reflects on the Christ-less churches you see around today. Regarding the meaning of white garments and the other symbols used in Revelation 3, it's important to remember that we must use all the symbols together as we work to arrive at a cohesive interpretation. While it may be possible to disagree on an individual element in isolation (e.g., do white garments mean salvation or works?), when we put all the symbols together into a single interpretation, they must all align. So, when examining the five symbols Jesus' gives to describe the people in the church of Laodicea (i.e., wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked), we must conclude that Jesus is concerned with a believer's lack of faith, not lack of works, because these terms are never used to describe an unproductive or disobedient believer. They are only used to describe a lack of saving faith. This is all the more certain when we see all five terms used together in this way. Collectively, they are unmistakably a description of unbelief. Furthermore, Jesus says He will "vomit" Laodicea out of his mouth at the judgment, which is eternal rejection. Such language is never used in the Bible as a description of the Judgment Seat of Christ. In fact, in every major discussion of the believer's judgment, the Bible is always careful to emphasize that a believer absent works is NEVER rejected for their lack of works (see 1 Corinthians 3:15; Hebrews 6:8, etc.). So again, Jesus' clear rejection of the Laodicea church is evidence that these people lacked saving faith. Finally, concerning Pastor Armstrong's interpretation of the symbols of white garments and nakedness, he has interpreted them in a consistent fashion throughout his teaching. Regarding the meaning of white garments, in Sardis soiled garments were symbols of insufficient works (Revelation 3:4), while clean and bright linen represents believers possessing good works (Revelation 19:8). Notice in both cases, the believers always possess white garments. Possessing a garment is the symbol of being "covered" in Christ's righteousness (i.,e., being saved), while the degree of cleanliness of the garment reflects the person's witness by good works. Pastor Armstrong applied this symbol consistently in his teaching saying that those with garments are saved, those without garments (i.e., naked) are not saved, and the cleanliness of the garment reflects the believer's degree of good works done in faith. When Jesus commands the church in Laodicea to obtain white garments, He was commanding them to believe in the Gospel. Regarding nakedness, the meaning of nakedness in Revelation is always a picture of unbelief, and Pastor Armstrong always uses it this way. In Revelation 3, Laodicea is unbelieving and in Revelation 16:15, Jesus is addressing the unbelieving on earth. In that verse Jesus warns He is coming like a thief upon the world, and unless a person is saved (i.e., not naked), he will perish.

@Yaaqov-yk9gt 6 ай бұрын

The term spew or vomit corresponds to Leviticus 18:28 20:22 where the reference is not to hell but because the Jewish people had defiled the land God had vomited them out. Referring to a physical casting out of congregation not of sending to hell or loss of salvation

@Westguitar683 2 ай бұрын

Could you also make a video explaining Revelation 2:5? Many people have presented me this verse to teach you can lose your salvation.

@ALC77787 Жыл бұрын

Hearing voices again about mean things coming out of Christians at church today and I ran out of medication for the brain.

@davidoconnor3579 Жыл бұрын

Thank you brother. In Jesus name amen.

@DNYS8N 4 күн бұрын

Teachers and I think we should all know this is describing a church of believers. The church not individual saved believers are being spit out. The church will be no more. There is no more vision forum for example as well as many other ministries. They were wiped out collectively as a body but the luke warm believer, as we all can be, are not cast into hell. We love to go straight to the worse case scenario like Our Father is some abusive authoritative human man. If you have to persevere to be saved. Good luck with passing that off as good news or spinning salvation as a free gift. It’s interesting these verses instead of drawing us closer are used by others to fight each other. The accusation and condemnation may be bold or subtle but it is what it is. Peace!

@crossing3790 Жыл бұрын

Amen. nice channel i am in. you are correct that he would remove the church

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

If God spits out a church the Church would be without guidance.

@mre4112 Жыл бұрын

Hey, noice beard bruda'!

@timroot4207 Жыл бұрын

Amen & Thank You !!!

@skokenos 11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not but "Laodicea" means Justice of the people". Perhaps better translates "social justice". Does that seem familiar to our present day culture? Good video / teaching BTW 👍

@jdw-616 Жыл бұрын

2 Timothy 4:1-4 [1]I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; [2]Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. [3]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4]And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. James 2:14-26 [14]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [15]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, [16]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? [17]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. [18]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. [19]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. [20]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? [21]Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [22]Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? [23]And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24]Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. [25]Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? [26]For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Hebrews 10:23-31 [23]Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) [24]And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: [25]Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. [26]For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, [27]But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [28]He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: [29]Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? [30]For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. [31]It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

@CP-qy1iq Жыл бұрын

Sir. God bless you. I am confused about the crucifixion and the resurrection. Was Jesus crucified on Friday and resurrected on Sunday? How does that translate as 3 days and 3 nights? Thank you.

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t translate to three days because it’s not true. I’ll make a video on this in the future. Rest assured, He rose again the third day according to the scriptures!

@00mike00 Жыл бұрын

Great videos as always. At 1:41 mins in, its the church of the Laodiceans and not Ephesus. I believe that is the church found post the rapture, where the Lord Himself is knocking at its door, since He is not in that Church and the previous Generation (Church of Philadelphia, has been taken away aka raptured).

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

I referenced Revelation 2 where God addressed the Church of Ephesus, specifically verses 1-5: 1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: 3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. God bless!

@00mike00 Жыл бұрын

@@OnoDiamante understood.

@OkorieJoshua-yo3hw 8 ай бұрын

@calfox Жыл бұрын

I was taught that Laodicea was between two other cities. One that was at the base of a mountain which got cold refreshing water that melted from the mountain top from it most of the year. The other had natural hot springs which people could bath in. Laodicea got lukewarm water which really was not that useful to a trading city and not that fun to drink. The people knew Jesus was referring to this when He invoked the lukewarm comparison.

@dhgii Жыл бұрын

I have heard something like that before as well. Hot and cold water are desirable for use, while lukewarm water is not. This is not a salvation verse, but rather a verse about being fit for service. IMO.

@theinvestigativemillennial9381 Жыл бұрын

This is correct I also read this in a book.

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

How then can a Christian be blind if God has already given them eyes to see?

@samirpernell2136 3 ай бұрын

@trustintheLordJesus You think that the moment someone is saved they immediately understand everything?

@SOG8014 Жыл бұрын

OSAS ETERNALLY SECURE 🔒 FOREVER ♾️ SEALED AND SAVED SIMPLY BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST JESUS ALONE PLUS NOTHING!!!

@OkorieJoshua-yo3hw 8 ай бұрын

@wtom04 10 ай бұрын

The Laodicean church were a lukewarm church where they had no cool water to quench the thirst of the spiritually thirsty and they had no hot water or enthusiasm to be fired up in the faith. They also became complacent because of their wealth and saw no need for anything else. Outwardly they were rich, but inwardly they were poor and in a pitiful state. Christ “spits them out” because of their state, but “spit out” does not mean loss of salvation as Calvinists and Arminians falsely teach, but “spit out” means to be set aside temporarily because Christ cannot use them for SERVICE and they are sidelined. The Christians in Laodicea were being in a state of self complacency and were slacking off in their ZEAL in the faith and were not fired up. Being "spit out" means to be SET ASIDE temporarily from service, but it does not mean loss of salvation. Revelation 3:19 gives the context of Revelation 3:16-17. Christ said He would REBUKE and CHASTEN them for their self-complacency and He encourages them to get out of that state by being zealous again. I'm sure there are some modern day churches at present that fall into the same category as the Laodicean church, so the same warning in Revelation 3:16 and Revelation 3:19 still applies to churches of today. It's all about being set aside temporarily from service for inactivity due to complacency and incurring chastisement from God which can result in church closure, but never about loss of eternal life in the church staff or membership. Christ exhorts for them to put on white raiment in the sense that he wants them to repent of their false sense of complacency in their wealth. Their existing raiment had become tainted with the stains of worldliness. Their testimony as a church and as a testimony to the unsaved was ruined. The same is tragically true today for many churches. All SAVED Christians are "overcomers" in the sense that they have overcome eternal condemnation in hell and the eventual Lake of Fire as they have the perfect imputed righteousness of Christ that justifies them before God at the very moment of faith (John 5:24, Romans 4:2-6) but not all SAVED Christians are "overcomers" in regards to their earthly walk and performance as there are some Christians who live in unfaithfulness, disobedience, laziness, carnality, worldliness, passive indifference, etc, BUT are still saved as eternal life is not of our works, but is a FREE GIFT. The garment of the Laodicean Church had an external appearance of "righteousness", but inwardly they were tainted. They lost their spiritual fervor and enthusiasm for Christ and were becoming useless as salt and light. When it comes to white raiment, there are many false religions and false denominations within mainstream Christianity that have an outer appearance of a "white raiment", but the minute you do research into what's going on with their doctrine and behind the scenes, the white raiment was just a "veneer" of false righteousness.

@Ruben27780 5 ай бұрын

I hold this view that i will share. But note that our differences do not diminish osas, it’s just a matter of who Jesus is really speaking to. And I personally believe that Jesus was speaking to a Christ-less church, especially since he was locked out and knocking at the door of the church. How many churches do we see today that are completely Christ-less?? A TON Regarding the meaning of white garments and the other symbols used in Revelation 3, it's important to remember that we must use all the symbols together as we work to arrive at a cohesive interpretation. While it may be possible to disagree on an individual element in isolation (e.g., do white garments mean salvation or works?), when we put all the symbols together into a single interpretation, they must all align. So, when examining the five symbols Jesus' gives to describe the people in the church of Laodicea (i.e., wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked), we must conclude that Jesus is concerned with a believer's lack of faith, not lack of works, because these terms are never used to describe an unproductive or disobedient believer. They are only used to describe a lack of saving faith. This is all the more certain when we see all five terms used together in this way. Collectively, they are unmistakably a description of unbelief. Furthermore, Jesus says He will "vomit" Laodicea out of his mouth at the judgment, which is eternal rejection. Such language is never used in the Bible as a description of the Judgment Seat of Christ. In fact, in every major discussion of the believer's judgment, the Bible is always careful to emphasize that a believer absent works is NEVER rejected for their lack of works (see 1 Corinthians 3:15; Hebrews 6:8, etc.). So again, Jesus' clear rejection of the Laodicea church is evidence that these people lacked saving faith. Finally, concerning Pastor Armstrong's interpretation of the symbols of white garments and nakedness, he has interpreted them in a consistent fashion throughout his teaching. Regarding the meaning of white garments, in Sardis soiled garments were symbols of insufficient works (Revelation 3:4), while clean and bright linen represents believers possessing good works (Revelation 19:8). Notice in both cases, the believers always possess white garments. Possessing a garment is the symbol of being "covered" in Christ's righteousness (i.,e., being saved), while the degree of cleanliness of the garment reflects the person's witness by good works. Pastor Armstrong applied this symbol consistently in his teaching saying that those with garments are saved, those without garments (i.e., naked) are not saved, and the cleanliness of the garment reflects the believer's degree of good works done in faith. When Jesus commands the church in Laodicea to obtain white garments, He was commanding them to believe in the Gospel. Regarding nakedness, the meaning of nakedness in Revelation is always a picture of unbelief, and Pastor Armstrong always uses it this way. In Revelation 3, Laodicea is unbelieving and in Revelation 16:15, Jesus is addressing the unbelieving on earth. In that verse Jesus warns He is coming like a thief upon the world, and unless a person is saved (i.e., not naked), he will perish.

@wtom04 5 ай бұрын

@@Ruben27780 It appears that your understanding of the Church of Laodicea is according to Pastor Armstrong's understanding. It is probable that the Laodicean Church was once in fellowship with Christ and are saved people, but somewhere down the line the church got into a state of complacency due to their wealth where they lost sight of their identity in Christ, but that does mean they are unsaved. The Laodicean Church were Luke 8:14 Christians. Luke 8:14 - The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, AND THEY DO NOT MATURE. Of course, the Calvinist interpretation of Luke 8:7/Luke 8:14 is that these are "unsaved false professors with non saving faith". In other words, according to Calvinism, these people "profess Christ, but don't possess eternal life." The Arminian interpretation would be that these people were once saved, but they "lost their salvation" due to their failure to persevere in the faith and because of their preoccupation with the things of this life - worries, riches, and pleasures. However, both the Calvinist and Arminian views are wrong as a careful reading of Luke 8:7/Luke 8:14 reveals that these are SAVED people, but with HINDRANCES/OBSTACLES in their lives which prevent them from moving forward in their Christian walk with the Lord, thereby resulting in spiritual atrophy/stagnancy, but these people are still saved nonetheless. They grow up to a certain point, but because of the hindrances/obstacles they are in a state of stunted growth. In Revelation 3:19, Jesus says that He REBUKES and DISCIPLINES those that He LOVES. I believe such a statement from Christ means that the Laodicean Church are SAVED people, but again, a church that has fallen and become complacent because of it's wealthy state - Revelation 3:17. Revelation 3:17 - You say, ‘I AM RICH; I have ACQUIRED WEALTH AND DO NOT NEED A THING. Revelation 3:19 - KJV As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Revelation 3:19 NIV - Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. Also, the words "wretched", "miserable", "poor," "blind", and "naked" can be used to describe SAVED people who fall into a state of unfaithfulness, disobedience, worldliness, and carnality as they live and indulge like the unsaved.

@wtom04 5 ай бұрын

@@Ruben27780 The term "lukewarm" should not always be used to represent unsaved people. There are indeed many SAVED Christians who are LAZY, UNCONCERNED, INACTIVE, LACKING GOOD WORKS, ETC. The vast majority of the churches of the apostle Paul's time who neglected Paul when he was in need were a classic example. A lesson can be learned from Philippians 4:14-19 in regards to James 2:14-26. The apostle Paul stated that the Philippian church was the ONLY church that sent him aid more than once when he was in need. A question naturally arises regarding the other churches that neglected the apostle Paul when he was in need. The question is: Did the fact that the other churches who neglected the apostle Paul mean that they were unsaved? NO, but it indicates that they were saved people who were either LAZY, SELFISH, SCARED, OR UNCONCERNED in not helping Paul out where they did not put their faith into ACTION. The other churches SHOULD have helped Paul out, but they did not. Again, their failure to help Paul did not mean they were unsaved. Paul commends the Philippians in that they put their faith into ACTION where Paul's needs were met. Paul assures them that their ACTION in helping him out is pleasing to God and that one day when the Philippian church is in need that God will meet their needs. The Philippian church put James 2:14-26 and 1 John 3:17-18 into practice. The issue was not salvation, but SERVICE in putting their faith into ACTION to PROFIT those in need - James 2:14-17, 1 John 3:17-18.

@Ruben27780 5 ай бұрын

@@wtom04 Im not a Calvinist if thats what youre implying. And youre correct Jesus did say that he chastens the ones that he loves or the ones that are obviously saved, thats a fact. But the way I understand it is that Jesus did not discipline the church of Laodicea because they werent saved, in other words he can’t discipline them because they havent accepted the Gospel, so in other words he stated a truth of himself, THE ONES HE LOVES HE WILL CHASTEN, that church would be chastened if they come to faith in him, not before. You havent refuted the point made about the WHITE GARMENTS (no one is saved without them) i might add and again no where in scripture was there ever a believer described as those words that Jesus used, not even one that was living a disobedient life. How many churches and megachurches are there today that arent saved or preach the true gospel. Bro theres soooo many today that are part of the lgbt community and then try and go on to preach love and Jesus in the church, YEAH RIGHT….

@Ruben27780 5 ай бұрын

@@wtom04 bro i get all that, but nowhere in the bible does it state that they were lazy or selfish because they didnt help paul. And im not saying people like them werent saved because they didnt help lol. The church of laodicea in revelation is nothing like what you told me about in the Philippian church

@HolySpiritKingdomFruits Жыл бұрын

God Bless

@eurekayankee6690 Жыл бұрын

if someone asks me whos my pastor ill say i have many but i point you to Onorato... 📜🔍

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you tuning in but that's not my role! Plenty of prepared Pastors out there you can learn under!

@eurekayankee6690 Жыл бұрын

@@OnoDiamante i thought a pastor was just a person that past on the gospel...

@eurekayankee6690 Жыл бұрын

@@OnoDiamante Saint Pastor Arch Duke?

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

@@eurekayankee6690 No, I'm not a Pastor.

@iKingRev Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video explaining Mark 10:17-18 and John:20:17 for others benefit. I would greatly appreciate it!

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

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@iKingRev Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m watching it now!

@iKingRev Жыл бұрын

Also, do you have a video on John 14:28? If you do that will help me too. I’ve encountered someone who has said Jesus is the word that has proceeded from the father and is the son of God but is not God. I need some encouragement right now and if you have a video explaining that, it will help greatly. I haven’t been confused but he presented some scripture I am not sure how to refute.

@iKingRev Жыл бұрын

Also, thank you for replying. I hope you are doing well and that you’re healing up. I know it’s going to a journey but I believe God will get you through it.

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

Study John 1. Jesus is God.

@lovedby.JesusChrist 9 ай бұрын

Praise the Lord for your faithful preaching.

@Chris-zh9nd 7 күн бұрын

It's interesting that in Revelation Jesus addresses CHURCHES, not one Catholic Church. No appeal to a pope or a reference to any papal system. No appeal to confess to a priest or admonition of neglecting to follow papal authority. I have seen that Revelation may have been written as late as 90 AD. Beyond even the first popes (allegedly an already aged Apostle Peter) as the first Pope and beyond his conceivable lifetime. At the very least, plenty of time for scripture to reference the papal system. If indeed the Catholic Church represents all Church authority via one singular papal group, its odd that we see reference to many individual Churches responsible for each actions or lack thereof. And zero reference to any appeal to seek any Papal authority to reconcile any issues. As a bonus observation, theres zero references to petition Mary either. No references for the Church or Churches to go about praying to some queen of Heaven. It would seem vitally important, if Papal authority is true, to have mention to the Church, and in this case, Churches, to actually follow what is said by Catholic authorities to do as they, Papal authority, say. By now as the story is told by Catholic historians and teaching, the Catholic Church would already be a generationally aged System of established doctrine.

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

Just because a gathering of people is called a church doesn't mean that the people in the church are all saved. God doesn't teach that.

@levimessner8751 Жыл бұрын

"The rejection or removal of an unrepentant church"... Does this mean that within the "church" that it is addressing, there are many people who have not changed their mind to trust Christ and do not believe and are not saved already?

@kyshaunlewis6450 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think so taking the audience into account, along with the recommendation to be zealous and do the first works. In my very novice opinion think it meant they were laid back and probably not spreading the Gospel like they ought to. (I interpreted spreading the Gospel as the first works) Correct me if I’m wrong.

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

No, it's referring to them failing to heed God's directive and suffering the consequences of chastisement. He's giving them space to repent and correct themselves.

@kyshaunlewis6450 Жыл бұрын

@@OnoDiamante in this case the directive would be the first works ? - if so what exactly is/are the first works … I made a guess above but I’m not sure. Is there any scripture that you know of to help clarify?

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

@@kyshaunlewis6450 No, that’s regarding the church of Ephesus in chapter 2. The directive to the church of Laodicea is found in verses 18-19 of chapter 3. We can only conjecture as to what the “first works” are. I don’t think your interpretation is necessarily incorrect, I would have to study this out more specifically to give a confident answer.

@kyshaunlewis6450 Жыл бұрын

@@OnoDiamanteyeah I mixed the verses the directive in chapter 3 is to be zealous. Seems pretty straightforward. Also I’d look forward to such a study. Thanks.

@discountcodes Жыл бұрын

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@watchmanendtimes Жыл бұрын

Its ones trusting in works

@joshmonroe986 8 күн бұрын

My understanding is that this is written to specific churches, not individual people. So to apply this to an individual person's salvation is not a biblically accurate interpretation.

@swanson_8804 27 күн бұрын

So do you believe if you’re “saved” you can do whatever you want and sin however you want and still go to heaven? Or do you believe what osas actually is and that if you are truly saved you’ll be born again and your works will be a fruit of your salvation?

@Galatians-vr8xd Жыл бұрын

Hello brother another interesting video and many thanks for them all, I’m a subscriber who intently watches all your content. A request if I may, would you cover any videos on the subject of the so called prosperity gospel? I am only a few months into reading scripture and I suspect highly this is a false teaching, The likes of taylon Michael in particular a large following and always preaching on wealth and prosperity in the here and now, For what I gather in scripture Jesus does not encourage living your best now? As you know many verses back this up, would love to hear your take on the matter. Thanks again for your videos and May the God of the bible always keep you. ☝️👑✝️

@salvationbygracethroughfaithin Жыл бұрын

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@jm7578 2 ай бұрын

If people could be saved by works, there are so many other groups and religions that do it better than evangelical Christians. If you look at the lifestyle of Mormons and Jehovah witnesses, they live the most strict lifestyle. But I would even say to them that salvation is by grace Through faith in Christ alone. Regardless of how perfect we can strive to be as human beings. It is all about Jesus when it comes to salvation if you look at John 6:37 and John 6:44 you will see that those are the keys to our faith as well as Acts 16:31

@kaioken654 Жыл бұрын

Ab-so-lutely 👍

@LukeBowman08 Жыл бұрын

I've had a question and was wondering if someone could answer it. I have believed in OSAS for a while, but recently I have started questioning it. I was re-reading Hebrews and in chapter 6 it says, "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance...".This seems to contradict OSAS. The reason why I have trouble reconciling this verse with OSAS is because the author says, "were made PARTAKERS of The Holy Ghost...". Every believer has the Holy Spirit and being made a partaker of the Holy Ghost makes it seem like you have the Holy Spirit which means you are saved. Can someone help me understand this passage better?

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

@SkinnyFade God the Father was drawing the person to God the Son, but they rejected and despised what God was doing. That's why the sacrifice of Jesus couldn't help them. They consciously said no to what God was doing on their behalf.

@dhgii 10 ай бұрын

Hebrews 6 is talking about saved believers. It is addressing Hebrew Christians that are being tempted to go back to Judiasm and perform dead works of the law, which would include offering animal sacrifices. This would put Christ to an open shame, because the animal sacrifices are only a foreshadow of what the Christ would one day do. Since Christ has already came and performed the once and for all sacrifice by dying for our sins on the cross, it would be highly disrespectful for these Hebrew Christians to go back to the defunct priesthood of Judaism. If these Hebrew Christians did go back to the defunct (non functioning) priesthood of Judaism, then they would be forfeiting there spiritual growth, and open themselves up to divine discipline, but they would not lose salvation (OSAS). They would still be saved, but would not be able to go on into spiritual maturity (grow spiritually), and would face chastisement from their Heavenly Father. Hebrews 6:1, “Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,”. Loss of salvation is not what’s at stake in these verses, but rather loss of spiritual growth and maturity. Hebrews 10:1, “For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.” Hebrews 10:4, “For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.” Hebrews 10:9-10, “Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Hebrews 10:12, “But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;”. Hebrews 10:14, “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” Hebrews 10:18, “Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.” These Hebrew believers are tempted to go back to the defunct priesthood of Judaism and offer animal sacrifices. If they do this they will forfeit spiritual growth and incur chastisement from their Heavenly Father. God is exhorting them to not go back to Judaism, but rather move on into spiritual maturity outside the camp of Judaism. Hebrews 12:7-8, “If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” Hebrews 13:10-13, “We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.” God wants the Hebrew believers to stay outside the camp of Judaism. The sacrifices he wants them to offer now are stated below. Hebrews 13:15, “By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.” The Hebrew Christians were not being warned against loss of salvation. It’s impossible to lose salvation (OSAS). They are being warned about losing out on spiritual growth and maturity. They are also being warned about incurring divine Chastisement from there Heavenly Father. God will discipline His children (like any good father), but He will never lose a single one. Once a child of God, always a child of God!!!

@dhgii 10 ай бұрын

Hebrews 6:1, “Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,” Hebrews 6:4-6, “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” It is impossible, If these Hebrew Christians fall away from the faith and go back to Judiasm, to renew them again to repentance from dead works of the law, because they will be committing dead works of the law by performing animal sacrifices. The result of this would be an inability to grow spiritually. This doesn’t mean they could never come out of Judiasm and get back in fellowship with God, which will result in spiritual growth. It means that while in that fallen away state, it’s impossible for them to grow spiritually. They can’t operate under the principle of repentance from dead works and faith towards God, while simultaneously participating in the dead works of the law (animal sacrifices). They can’t walk by faith (which leads to spiritual growth), while simultaneously being under the law. That’s why the writer of Hebrews says, “let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,” Galatians 3:3, “Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” (Notice these Galatians are saved, but have gone back under the law, and it’s foolish for them to think they can grow spiritually while under the law) Galatians 3:11-12, “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.” (These Galatians were not justified by the Law, so it’s foolish for them to think they can live their Christian life under the law. They can only live a successful Christian life by faith, and the law is not of faith. That is why it is impossible to operate under the principle of repentance from dead works of the law, and faith toward God, because the law is not of faith. A saved person can’t grow spiritually in Grace when operating under the law, and that’s what Hebrews 6 is talking about. Hebrews 6:1, “Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,” Hebrews 6:4-6, “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.”

@LukeBowman08 10 ай бұрын

@@dhgii i really do appreciate the comment, thanks a lot for the thorough explanation! The one thing i dont totally understand is in Hebrews 6:9 the writer says “But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way.” I find it hard to say the writer is talking abt losing out of spiritual growth in this specific passage because he says "things that accompany salvation" which implies that the ppl who fall away were not saved in the end: “but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭6‬:‭8‬

@dhgii 10 ай бұрын

@@LukeBowman08, thanks for asking these questions. I am happy to try and help you understand these verses better, because you seem to genuinely want to understand how these verses correctly fit with the true biblical doctrine of eternal security. Your questions also cause me to study this out more, and I benefit from getting better understanding as well. Before I get into attempting to explain Hebrews 6:7-9, I want to make sure you understand that the purpose of these passages is not eternal salvation (or loss there of, which is impossible), but rather spiritual growth. When Hebrews 6:1 mentions “let us go on unto perfection;” this is referring to going on into spiritual maturity. The previous verses in chapter 5 set the context. Hebrews 5:12-6:1, “For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,” I want you to grasp that the context of these verses is to move on into spiritual maturity, via spiritual growth. With that knowledge in mind, I will attempt to explain Hebrews 6:7-9. I’m currently listening to a teaching on it, and when it’s finished I will send another reply addressing those verses.

@maximusvonce1381 Жыл бұрын

Who is lukewarm. How do you determine who and who isn't lukewarm. The works salvation heretics think they know who is lukewarm, but how do we know they arent lukewarm. Jesus was referring to people who trusted in their riches and not Him.

@krisjustin3884 Жыл бұрын

Maybe like the rich young ruler?

@maximusvonce1381 Жыл бұрын

@@krisjustin3884 Exactly

@maximusvonce1381 Жыл бұрын

@@krisjustin3884 As long as you realize you need Jesus Christ to be saved, you are saved. Its those people who think they dont need Jesus Christ cause they have millions and billions of dollars.

@krisjustin3884 Жыл бұрын

@@maximusvonce1381 Or think they’re good enough for heaven! I know a person, at best, is a sinner saved by grace. I like how you worded your comment! So true and so needed for this decaying world.

@puglover8171 4 ай бұрын

I had always thought that since it never said lukewarm Christian , but only lukewarm , that it was a warning to false converts who were never saved , like Judas . I'll have to think about this . I do know that it's not saying a Christian can lose their salvation .

@roblind8555 Жыл бұрын

These are all very wonderful claims. Without citing the Bible, how do you know you are telling the truth?

@theodoreritola7641 5 ай бұрын

Ask the Lord Jesus Christ to tell you by Faith BELIEVING HIM Because he is the TRUTH

@JP-ec9rl Жыл бұрын

The dispensationalists believe that the seven churches are the seven ages of the church and that we are in Laodicea at present. Perhaps they are correct about this? We are definitely living in a lukewarm age and increased with goods. Nobody has ever had more stuff than present day society does. Perhaps though there's something in those seven letters written to all of the church at all times?

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

Yes. That's true. Examples of Laodicean churches are all over the place. Roman Catholicism, the NAR movement, the word of faith movement just to name a few.

@JP-ec9rl Жыл бұрын

@@trustintheLordJesus I agree but also think that organized corporate denominations aren't necessarily "the church" . The church is simply the entire body of believers and while I believe that there are some saved individuals within those denominations, I don't believe that God would consider those theologies as anything other than blatant heresies. I'd argue that the legitimate Bible believers are the one's who are lukewarm and the majority of the charismatics and jesuits are actually completely sold out to satanic blasphemies. Of course I don't know their individual hearts and there are various levels of carnality in every believer's flesh but I think one's professed doctrine is important.

@JP-ec9rl Жыл бұрын

@@trustintheLordJesus there's a lot of Roman Catholics who've never actually heard the unadulterated gospel. They think they have to wait in purgatory if a priest didn't absolve all their sins and they actually hold Mary and the apostles up as demigods. That's not even biblical Christianity in my mind but many of those folks aren't lukewarm about it. Many are devout Catholics who are completely invested in their works. Are they even saved? Only God knows for sure.

@livingwater7580 Ай бұрын

Lukewarm is about mixing grace and works, if you are cold then the law would lead you to christ, if you are hot then you are in grace

@user-fq8wl6rw6m 10 ай бұрын

You jumped from Titus 3:5 then said look at chapter 16; there is no ch 16, you jumped to Revelation 16. I am confused.

@OnoDiamante 10 ай бұрын

I quoted Titus 3:5 and then said “look at verse 16”, referring to Revelation 3:16 which was then displayed full screen.

@watertakken Жыл бұрын

I remember struggling with losing my salvation fears due to the 💉.

@JP-ec9rl Жыл бұрын

No sweat on the salvation loss there. Personally I didn't take it because I'm adamant about my freedom to decide for myself and I'm opposed to blood clots. I've known several people who took it and seem to be okay and several people who took it and had some pretty nasty side effects.

@kpags5670 Жыл бұрын

I still think this 💉 is a trial run to see how many “bow” and take it like the mark of the beast.

@robertomoreno3364 Жыл бұрын

Same here, but My faith in Jesús Christ it's Big than the doubts, and the Eternal Life never can lose

@watertakken Жыл бұрын

@Cheyenne That means I taken the mark and I don't have anymore hope

@robertomoreno3364 Жыл бұрын

@@watertakken Do not fall for the heresy of the people who tell you that, they are usually people who are not even saved and do not know the gift that God gave us through Jesus Christ, if God cannot lie, we cannot die, he said that anyone Whoever believes in him has Eternal life, you can tattoo the 666 if you want on the forehead or on the right hand (I speak as a man) and even so if you later believe in Jesus Christ and his unspeakable gift, you still get Eternal life, leave that garbage and try to believe in the Word, also investigate the prophecies that have already been fulfilled and compare them, if you realize, the vast majority are fulfilled literally and no requirement and nothing has been fulfilled from the entire book of Revelation, investigate well and stop doubting brother, may Jesus Christ Lord and Savior bless you

@christistruth3112 Жыл бұрын

the lukewarm are ones trustinh in works

@joojotin Жыл бұрын

No one can plug us out of lords hand.

@unknownwarrior757 10 ай бұрын

@joojotin Yes. Thanks to God! Nobody or nothing can plug us of His hand. But... you can go out from His hand and Jesus Christ will never keep you in His hand by force against your free will (Christ is not like the devil to terorise and force the people). You can go out from Gods presence and die or stay with Him and live. Just like all falling angels decide to go out from God by disobidience (and die). Adam and Eve go out from God by disobidience (and die). Do you remember the parable with the father with the two sons? One of his sons go away from his house and lose all the money. His father count him as DEAD (not as alive). And if the son had not returned to his father, he would have remained DEAD. Or do you think that God was not serious when he told Adam and Eve "because in the day you eat of it you will surely die". Was God only speaking of their physical death? God did not tell them "after that day", but "in the day". And as we know their bodies did not die in that day, therefore God did not speak to them of bodily death only. No one snatched them out of His hand, but they separated themselves by free choice. God bless you!

@samirpernell2136 7 ай бұрын

@unknownwarrior757 I don't think the Father counting him as dead means that his father no longer saw him as a son. Rather it was most like the father thought his son was dead as he went out from him. Bible says God cannot deny his spirit from you if you decide fall to unbelief again 2 Timothy 2:11-13 11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

@joojotin 7 ай бұрын

@@samirpernell2136 good points

@dokidokibibleclub Жыл бұрын

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@honestyangel Жыл бұрын

🙋‍♀️

@elijahjohn8868 7 ай бұрын

Is this a coincidence? Revelation 3:16, John 3:16, video length: 3:16🤔

@brucedavenport7016 Ай бұрын

It is not clear at all that the threat is to the entire church (as opposed to individual members). Of course you can lose your salvation. God will never forsake us, but God gave us the free will choice to reject him.

@user-jp5rk2ed8k 5 ай бұрын

Maybe somebody that tries to serve two masters like they claim Jesus but worship baal or something i don't know it says you will love one and hate the other...But yeah wages of sin is death gift of God isceternal life through Jesus Christ our lord romans 6 23 i think

@maximusvonce1381 Жыл бұрын

These works salvation heretics who preach false doctrine lose salvation are the most blatant worse sinners of all from my experience

@ColtDee Жыл бұрын

he must of had a big mac.

@JadynWilliams-ji6vg Ай бұрын

You all who think he's lying I'm tell you he is NOT. It says it in the Bible, which is straight from Gods words. I have deceived everyone at my church thinking I was a true Christian, but when I was tested, I was found NOT a TRUE Christian. For those who believe DON'T LOSE HOPE NEVER STRAY AWAY GOD LOVES YOU, YOU ARE DOING GREAT!!! As for me, I'm going to Hell rather I like it or not, goodbye everyone, I hope you all make it.

@coltonlevi4385 4 ай бұрын

There was benefits of the cold water, and the hot water. Jesus is saying be either hot or cold. Be if use unlike the lukewarm water with no benefits.

@forYAHSglory 24 күн бұрын

Revelation 20:11-14 (KJV) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Looks like we will be judged by our works. Revelation 22:14 (KJV) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Better keep those commandments also.

@kennyh5083 Жыл бұрын

Yep! God said the road that leads to eternal life is a straight and narrow pathway and only the few shall find it! God gives you life, you must serve and obey him to receive eternal life! ONLY THE FEW SHALL FIND IT!

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

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@franklynperez7956 Жыл бұрын

fellas i need a little bit of help understanding the main idea

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

The main idea is that God is speaking to a body of believers. They are already saved and therefore secure in their position in Christ. God is warning them of chastisement if they fail to repent and correct themselves.

@JEBBY123IFY Жыл бұрын

Wonder what the first works is? Maybe it's telling reminding the churches to evangelize and bring people to God

@gregory7320 10 ай бұрын

@@OnoDiamante so God does want us to repent from sin but that has nothing to do with salvation.

@christistruth3112 12 күн бұрын

lukewatm are those not fully trusting christ

@keithdavis4683 2 ай бұрын

Amen rightly dividing the word.

@faithhope7777 26 күн бұрын

A true Christian walks a sinless life... Go with God

@LittleAngryCarrots 2 ай бұрын

Lukewarm Christianity. Saved but cannot be used by God. Is that right? Or is it playing the hypocrite and being in delusion that you have a relationship with Christ? What exactly does it mean to walk lukewarm? Yes there are seasons where we are far from Christ but who’s to know how long those transitions last? Does dying lukewarm in Christ mean Hell for you? I struggle on this topic. It’s hard to say for me because it seems to say “I’m scared of possibility of hell so I believe in Christ but I’m rather a stranger to Christ as the world has a stronger hold on me”…thus is that what it means for Christ to say depart from me I never knew you??

@peterwiebewall5608 6 ай бұрын

Excellent teaching 👏

@DirtyyMike 28 күн бұрын

It should be said that you can attend church every Sunday and do the dance but if you dont FULLY accept Jesus into your life and grow to BE more like him, you are playing a very dangerous game.

@reynaldoperez7285 9 ай бұрын

IT IS WRITTEN TO A CHURCH FULL OF FALSE CONVERTS WHICH HAD NO FRUITS. THEY WERE POOR, WRETCHED, AND BLIND. WOW CHRISTIANS CAN BE POOR WRETCHED AND BLIND. JESUS WAS STANDING OUTSIDE NOT INSIDE. CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN ORDAINED TO BEAR FRIUT. King James Bible Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and( ordained ) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. New International Version His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. I guess they didn't have this verse on top. They were not even clothed.

@katdumore535 Жыл бұрын

Was the congregants of laodicea even made up of saved believers? It Says Jesus was outside their door knocking, and says he will eat with whoever answers. I take this as they didn’t have Christ yet the HS? And Jesus calls them to be an overcomer. John 6:40 become a believer.

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

Yes, “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.”

@toddarcand6002 Ай бұрын

The church of Laodicea is the end time church. Laodicea means judgement hour, which we are in, so yes it is in regards to judgement to all individuals in this final time period. Sad you think any part of scripture is for different people, since that rejects that "all Scripture is inspired by God and given for reproof, rebuke and correction" and " man shall not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God ". Yes it is by faith, and to have faith we must be faithful to the one we have faith in. By doing that as a consequence of Free grace through faith, we keep His commandments. We don't reject them. Once saved always saved is a demonic doctrine and easily disproven. It is only up to individuals to want to receive the love of the truth and so be saved and accept His righteousness that He writes in our minds and innermost parts. You walk according to the way you dictate which is totally contradictory to the Words of Jesus Christ whom you serve not.

@steffanjansenvanvuuren3257 Ай бұрын

-------- A commonly denied/ignored/rejected Truth ------------- What according to the Bible makes a person lukewarm? THIS: See for yourself: ------------------------Revelation 3:16-19 Easy-to-Read Version 16 But you are only warm-not hot, not cold. So I am ready to spit you out of my mouth. (Why Lord?) 17 You say you are rich. You think you have become wealthy (KJV Because thou sayest, I am rich) and don’t need anything. But you don’t know that you are really miserable, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I advise you to buy gold from me-gold made pure in fire. Then you will be rich. I tell you this: Buy clothes that are white. Then you will be able to cover your shameful nakedness. I also tell you to buy medicine to put on your eyes. Then you will be able to see. 19 “I correct and punish the people I love. So show that >>nothing is more important to you than living right

@jm7578 Жыл бұрын

The church age and the tribulation are of different dispensations therefore different rules apply

@marcgotcalledout4058 Жыл бұрын

@ALC77787 Жыл бұрын

Heard that my soul is went Satan so am going to hell

@trustintheLordJesus Жыл бұрын

If you interested in searching for Jesus then you can still do that. God can save anyone but searching wholeheartedly for Jesus is important.

@shaunstewart8253 Жыл бұрын

I believe the lukewarm are the ones who hold a neutral position when it comes to who Jesus is. They are not fully convinced that He is the only way to be reconciled to the Father. The cold are the full out unbelievers and the hot are the believers.

@Beckmagic 5 ай бұрын

It is about ABIDING as Jesus taught in John 15:6 -- If a man abide not in Me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is whithered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. The real danger is as the writer describes in Hebrews 3: 12-14 -- Beware, bretheren, (speaking to SAVED people in the Church) lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called "Today," lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ IF we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end. And unlike those who adhere to the heretical old "once saved, now and forever, irrevocably always saved," the writer in Hebrews is warning SAVED BELIEVERS that if they are not careful that they can be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin to the point, in fact, that they can eventually fall away from the faith all together, and no longer chose, through their own deliberate choice to abide in Jesus. And don't start hanging onto the notion that these people were never truly saved to begin with. Remember, Paul is talking to SAVED BELIEVERS here. They can begin to prefer and even to LOVE the sin they are committing. So much so that they no longer want a relationship with Jesus; they no longer want Him in their lives. This is the kind of gradual hardening effect that sin can begin to have on us once we partake in it on a regular basis. Their hearts are hardened and they choose abiding in sin over abiding in Jesus. Don't think that this can't happen to a saved believer because the writer of Hebrews is directly warning us in these verses that it CAN. And if those who are no longer abiding in Jesus CONTINUE to live that way until they die or Jesus returns and they don't repent and turn back to Jesus, then their ultimate salvation can be in grave danger.

@dreamsaresharedhere_ Ай бұрын

KJV is rough

@livingwater7580 Ай бұрын

Mixing grace with works to be saved is being lukewarm. God would never spew his children out of his mouth ever

@wenenda32 Жыл бұрын

You can lose your salvation if you keep sinning

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

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@timothylawson3262 Жыл бұрын

Didn't he pay it all?

@wenenda32 Жыл бұрын

He did pay for it all so we can be set free from willful sinning.

@DragonQueen78 11 ай бұрын

Then everyone would go to hell honey because none of us can stop sinning because we live in a fallen world. Only Jesus can save us. Once saved always saved. His shed blood on the cross, covers all sins.

@digitalwitness77 Жыл бұрын

Grace so easy a Caveman can figure it out, but a neanderthal, rocket scientist and brain surgeon not so much , just need more edgeumacation.

@MrElectricN8 13 күн бұрын

Don't be hard on yourself. Revelation was written to Israel, not the body of Christ.

@timothyp7331 Жыл бұрын

Why is your entire channel dedicated to telling people they don't need to turn from their sin? You mind as well throw the rest of your Bible out that tells us not to sin.

@GiftofGrace88 5 ай бұрын

You haven't turned from your sin so what are you talking about? Go read Romans 7 and understand the difference between the inward and the outward man. While you are in the flesh you will sin. What is saved is the spirit not the flesh.

@Charlie_Tea Жыл бұрын

Yeshua has come for the lost sheep of the House of Israel whether natural or wild branches. Yeshua has NOT come for the "church" but the assembly of the House of Israel. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. - Matthew 15:24 KJV

@tonyr6365 2 ай бұрын

Jesus is God's Son. Jesus was crucified and died for the sins of the world. Jesus was resurrected. Jesus is Lord.

@1apart517 2 ай бұрын

Again, you CANNOT live like the devil, and expect to go to heaven. Explain Revelation 3:5.

@OnoDiamante 2 ай бұрын

What does that even mean? “live like the devil”? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWXJd4SwicRlb6cfeature=shared

@davidandrew1078 Жыл бұрын

Are you a False Prophet?

@OnoDiamante Жыл бұрын

No, kzbin.info/www/bejne/b36WXpivl9FknbM

@davidandrew1078 10 ай бұрын

@@Michaelosas Are you off your meds?

@jakesitkowski906 11 ай бұрын

Be careful man. The context in which you’re using that Romans 4 passage is very misleading. I believe in salvation by faith alone, but that verse does not mean what you’re saying it meant. That is confusing to your listener. You aren’t saved by your works, but there should be fruit in your life after your faith has been placed in Jesus alone. Works will come. If they don’t come, that is evidence of someone who has not placed full faith in Jesus. Though works don’t save, they should be evident. This verse is using imagery of working and wages. Those who work earn something. But you don’t need to work to earn salvation.

@OnoDiamante 11 ай бұрын

Which is it? Works WILL come? Or works SHOULD be evident?

@SleeplessinOC 6 ай бұрын

You’re contradicting yourself there jake…you’re sounding like Paul Washer and other preachers like him .

@gofigure4920 4 ай бұрын

The works were done by Jesus Christ alone. It is a finished work. We as believers place our FAITH as our work. We are beneficiaries of the New Testament not of the Covenants with conditions that were for the Jews. Remember Apostle Paul came after Jesus and the apostles have died. The apostles were send out to the Jews under the Law. Apostle Paul was send out to the Gentiles with the true eternal Gospel for the New Testament beneficiaries believers. Our churches don't teach this because they don't understand this. We as believers must always keep going deeper. It just keeps getting better! God is so good.

@marcgotcalledout4058 2 ай бұрын

Hey Jake, has enough works come in your life to verify your salvation? Can you rest in that?

@MeMyWifeNKids Ай бұрын

What Jake is saying is that the evidence of your salvation will be shown in the fruit you produce Good fruit produce = evidence of salvation Bad fruits = evidence you re unsaved/ not born again Bad fruit are burned up in the fire Good fruits will last