DO NOT BUY Old Ink Blacks Anymore! Get the NEW ONE Instead!

[@Keybored]

Looks like there was a vendor wide price increase on these since I have released the video! The Box Ink switches went up in price to $.85 a switch :(

[@aghostofthepast]

Influence go brrrr

[@tekneiq]

F

[@SubwayLover]

in Sweden they are 10 crowns a switch or about $1.06 goddamn

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Wtf

[@oOWaschBaerOo]

well, you can just buy akko jelly blacks, they are almost the same for significantly lower price, and smoother stock feeling 👍

[@hamajineo]

poggers

[@Keybored]

Great seeing you here Hamaji! Hope the uni life is treating you well!

[@milo302]

poggers indeed

[@giocosovelasco]

poggers indeed indeed

[@zerorequiem6016]

poggers indeed indeed indeed

[@pizzapotatisen]

poggers indeed indeed indeed indeed

[@joshburger2217]

I literally just finished my ink V2 build..

[@Keybored]

:) Ink V2s are still fine switches

[@dingooooooooo]

Damn dude feels bad…

[@S3verance]

Same, as long as you lube them properly, they sound really good, not worth upgrading to box inks

[@TheAllRounderMemes]

of course this comes out a month after i make my first keyboard build with black inks

[@JustPaulFishin]

Literally same

[@Keybored]

The joys of the mechanical keyboarding hobby! I think this is how they make us keep making more and more keyboards haha

[@peachypers]

i feel your pain, I really do

[@N1lav]

Boba U4L launching in a few weeks. More regrets.

[@3shotta5]

Same

[@LeJunny]

60g is the sweet spot for me, I spring swapped my Tealios to 60g and they’re 👌🏽

[@Keybored]

I used to really like heavier springs, but I found my perfect weight is either 60g or 62g long springs!

[@vali8194]

@@Keybored Are you talking about the bottom out or the operating weight?

[@justanotherpxrson]

what a fantastic video as always. you always put so much work into your content and i really appreciate it. now i know you said its time to look past black ink v2s, but remember some people still wont look past vintage cherry blacks even though they arent that great anymore... lol

[@Keybored]

:) Yeah, you definitely have a point there. I'm not trying to discount the Ink V2s in any way... it's my opinion, but when I go back to back from the Ink V2s and Box Inks... something about the V2s just seem outdate... like how the switch feels and what not vs the new one... but not everyone will agree... but that's ok!

[@chunkymilk1288]

Some people still can’t get over Ink V1s xd

[@justanotherpxrson]

@@chunkymilk1288 but i have heard that ink v1s are actually better except for the fact that they have a loose leaf

[@Aaron_Lesse]

I'm going to try out the Gateron Box Ink Black V2 switches because I want something stiffer for my thick custom keycaps, quiet for online meetings, and pre-lubed because I don't want to set up a lube station and spend the time doing it myself. Thanks for the video! UPDATE: how about 2 months after this comment I have been using my new Gateron Box Ink Black V2 switches for a while now and I love them! They are just thocky enough for me without being too loud. They're not completely silent and sometimes my mic picks them up during online calls, but it's still okay with me. And since I installed thicker (and heavier) keycaps, they still feel like red switches on stock caps with the weight of the actuation force so not too much downforce is required.

[@inkf2846]

Found this the day I ordered the Black Inks V2. GOD DANGIT. but the V2s are so much smoother than milky yellows.

[@BlackCat88899]

And more expensive, but that's irrelevant

[@chy6796]

f

[@Keybored]

Yup! The inks are definitely the more premium switch!

[@SolaireFlair]

Immediately ordered some of these to try them out, they look real good. Might be my new go-to switch if it's as good as you say.

[@Keybored]

They're like an improved Ink V2! The housing alone was a huge improvement! I think for my next set, I won't even film them... just add a tiny bit of lube to the upper housing and it actually made the switch sound even deeper

[@KittySneeze]

Same, plus I like the pink colorway. First time I’ll try matching the switches to keycaps (GMK pink on black)

[@KittySneeze]

@shirase I totally agree! I am however usually content with using switches that complement the board/keycaps, but this’ll be the first one that fully matches the whole setup. I also ordered the “alpaca” version of the Durock stabs stabilizers to round-out the matching build. Glad to hear you enjoy the process of coordinating all parts aesthetically, even those that aren’t visible, as it’s something I’m starting to appreciate more & more.

[@NZ_Lexus_IS-F]

Where the hell did you order them from?

[@KittySneeze]

@@NZ_Lexus_IS-F it’s in the description. The website is called Elboard.

[@speaktobrett]

Jazz music ✔ Reference to K-Pop ✔ Congrats! You've made another generic keyboard video.

[@Keybored]

Thanks! Ain't nothing wrong with that!

[@lastshoelace]

Great video, I really like the key mashing/cutting between switches. Best way to compare the sound I’ve seen so far

[@Keybored]

:) Thank you so much! I hope these reviews and charts are helpful!

[@steampiano]

Extremely informative video, grabbed these for my build and loved its subtle but signature Ink v2 sound without the crummy springs. Travel distance reduction was easy to get used to and is totally worth the buttery smoothness and thock.

[@The_Rock_That_Floats]

Currently looking to build a keyboard for gaming, rather than typing. Do you think black inks/box will be too heavy at 70g springs? WASDing alot might result in fatigue? Im used to silver switches at around 34g when gaming, but i figured i want something more premium now

[@bistekbb]

you will definitely feel some fatigue at 70g if you’re only used to 34g! i recommend milky yellows or even the new yellow ink v2s if you want premium feel without too much weight (:

[@The_Rock_That_Floats]

@@bistekbb thanks, yeah Ive realized that Ive read the MX speed silver chart wrong a long time ago. So appearently its a 45g actuation and a flipping 75g bottom out. So now Im going for something more balanced; probably Banana splits or some other jwk at around 58-63.5 bottom out and around 50-55 operating force. This will hopefully be much smoother and more consistent, ill just have to adjust for standard 4mm travel when gaming again lol

[@Keybored]

I would spring swap them! I use TX 60g or 62g long springs and they make most switches feel much better!

[@The_Rock_That_Floats]

@@Keybored thx ill probably make a spring swap if i go with box inks.. how do tx springs compare to durocks gold plated ones?

[@Bram71]

i just got my black ink v2s 2 weeks ago for my first custom board and now this make me sadge ):

[@Fraek]

SAMEEE

[@cultured2535]

What a coincidence, same here lmao

[@Fraek]

@@cultured2535 right

[@Bram71]

Im just waiting for my keychron q1 :):(

[@Keybored]

You know, another viewer said the new V2s have been upgraded also with the similar housing... if so, they should also be great! If you look and they have that dividing line in the upper housing, it should be the new housing mold!

[@tims]

Great comparison! As a newcomer to the hobby, videos such as this are very helpful when going down the rabbit hole.

[@Keybored]

:) Welcome to the hobby! Don't go too deep into the rabbit hole! The exit is very hard to find

[@JMSP0511]

Great video! Lots of great information here. One important thing I want to add, is the reduced actuation point. You mention total travel being reduced 0.6mm, from 4.0mm vs 3.4mm (Regular Ink vs Box Ink) However, the actuation has reduced 0.8mm, from 2.0mm vs 1.2mm (Regular Ink vs Box Ink) To me, the reduced actuation was very noticeable and felt very weird during regular typing.

[@Keybored]

Great point!

[@iammstrlee]

I don't particularly like long pole stems, it messes with my muscle memory and this release is no exception. I do credit Gateron with doing something different with the Ink line, but the amount of reduction here is significant. I'd be all for the pink's spring and housing for the normal Ink V2.

[@destxi9578]

Amazing video Keybored! Every video is entertaining and so high qualty

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much DEST! I really appreciate the support!

[@akitsuki1149]

I thought for a sec, technoblade watches keyboard stuff

[@Stoic_Cat_]

Hey Keybored! How would this compare to the new updated black ink v2 (the short you posted haha) and would you still get this over the updated black ink v2?

[@Xzor]

"Pink Blacks"... So Watermelon? Great looking board and switch review!

[@Keybored]

:) Thank you! I'm planning to buy more of the pink ones and spring swap them out to a slightly heavier... I really like how the pink ones actually look

[@hypeboy5946]

have you tried comparing it with the akko jelly black? They look pretty similar..

[@Keybored]

They look very similar, but the Box Ink Blacks are much deeper :)

[@TheYeahh]

I've had a bit of a problem with the long poles/sliders on these making my keycaps seesaw on my stabs any advice?

[@Keybored]

Yup! I have a video out on helpful hints and tips! Check it out! It shows you what to do with long pole switches and stabilizer keycaps!

[@prodcyc912]

Two questions, do you think the black/pink tinted switch would interfere with rgb, and do these work with standard cherry mx profile caps to do you need specific key caps?

[@Keybored]

They do have the cut-outs so it should help somewhat, but as experienced with other tinted switches, the color does add a tint usually!

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

If it didn't involve lubing switches I'd buy new switches for my second board. But as it is.. I'm just keeping my main with the black V2 and secondary with the gat yellows. I fkn HATE lubing and I'm almost outta lube and buying new krytox is very hard where I live

[@eysgaming853]

Nice review. Btw if can please review the gateron crystal switch. I heard they are very good close to black inks too. Thanks

[@Keybored]

I heard some good things about them. Will look into them in the future! I have some Gateron CJs on order also!

[@Shivartin]

Please, do a review on Haimu Heartbeat Silent Linear Switch. It is silent, but it does not have rubber pads but an entirely new mechanism. I bought some and they are pretty smooth stock and quite silent. I know you are a ruckus guy, however, this is really a new development in switch design.

[@JBik-hy7hk]

what keycaps can I use with this? Cherry style, or what?

[@Keybored]

You can use any mx stem style

[@thegreatsawyer]

I have ink V2's on my first build. I'll definitely get these at some point for my Mode Eighty. Great Video!

[@Keybored]

:) Thank you! They are great switches!

[@whnkeys]

Keybored never leaves us bored for real, I never thought someone could make a switch review this interesting lol

[@Keybored]

:) Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

[@destxi9578]

For real

[@aidostuff9150]

true

[@Maitreya3001]

Truth fullstop

[@tf2hion]

@ 3:57 the label says "box pinked lubed (also top housing slider)". Does that mean you lubed the top housing of the switch? Or did you lube the outside of the slider that creates that box shape enclosing the stem? (or did u lube both)? Also, extremely well made video!

[@Keybored]

Hi Hion! I lubed the little slider area on the upper housing where the stem would go into. It really helped to make the overall sound deeper!

[@orkid2766]

Hello Scott! I’ve been using them stock for a while now and have been debating ordering films, is it super worth it or can I get away with a better sound by just lubing them? thanks!

[@PivBlast]

with the switch comparison chart its hard for a beginner like me to remember which switch is which by image. my stupid ass needs a key legend or something

[@clacksandpop7390]

Akko had a "clone" version it's their jelly series, would you mind reviewing them?

[@Keybored]

I do have the Jelly switches with me right now. They're good budget switches for sure. I wouldn't actually put them on the same level as the box ink blacks. Back to back, they actually sound really really different!

[@bugcapoo9310]

Great video, just wanted to ask if you have some akko radiant reds around that you could have an interference test on. Pretty sure they can remove interference on cherry profile keycaps in north facing leds with their 3.5mm travel but I want to be sure since I really want to buy cherry profile keycaps and don't want to waste money just to have them have interference

[@ishpatel3821]

Let me know if you get an answer please

[@Keybored]

I actually don't have the radiant reds, but I have the Akko starfish, which should be similar. They do not have interference with the cherry profile caps

[@ishpatel3821]

@@Keybored thank you

[@corporealghoul]

My main question is with the slightly longer stem pole will they prevent interference with north facing leds and cherry profile caps.

[@Keybored]

Yup! I show the demonstration of this in the end! You can use north facing with cherry profile. If you're asking if putting an actual LED into the hole, not so sure about that since I haven't had any boards that require a full LED that way

[@PinePizza]

KZbin recommends all of these garbage memes, dumb stuff I don't watch and now this, one of the rare useful videos, but waaaay too late. I have a batch of Black Inks V2 laying here which I will lube and film but man.. this recommendation could've arrived a little earlier on my feed. I think they will still be fine. I just hope there will be not much of the terrible leaf ping that any other linear I've tried so far had.

[@Keybored]

Hope you got one of the newer batches of the ink black v2s! The new housing version is actually great

[@timothyjeremiahtaal1665]

Hi! Just want to ask which is more thockier, the box ink v2 or the oil king? thanks!

[@RubyRoks]

Here's hoping Gateron brings out silenced versions of these switches.

[@Keybored]

One day! I've never been a huge user of silents, but recently I made a board with some for travel... and it's oddly growing on me. The soft squishy bottom out I kind of like haha

[@Ponker]

Hmm...I dunno from what I saw right now, they're a bit more pricy. I think I'll stick w V2s for now, they're not that bad still. Great review, Ponker Bless.

[@Keybored]

Interesting! The sites I use, I see them at the same price as the original V2s! But hey, the V2s are still great so all good!

[@MrShah434]

@@Keybored which websites are you using? I can only find the black box inks for 0.85$/pc compared to 0.70-0.75$/pc for the black ink v2

[@SUZ0Y]

i dont have time and the budget to lube them can i use them stock to my modded keychron q1?

[@nathanielsimmons3933]

Would you recommend the box ink for a thocky/creamy build and are films necessary for the switches. Thanks!

[@duct.q.4402]

No need to film. Lube if you want

[@jayvierioflorido7836]

Can I frankenswitch the stem and housing of Black Inks and Ink Box ?

[@Keybored]

I believe you can! I fit them to see if they would and it worked. Didn't get to type on them tho

[@Samael2004]

Don't know if this is too old to ask but where would you but the oil kings for the chart

[@LordAllenby1917]

Perfect.......if only they didn't shorten the pre-travel..... grraahh, ffs! Sorry keeb, you're stuck with stock switches still......

[@Keybored]

:) It's not as noticeable as something like black cherry pies or something like that

[@ojgimpson]

ink black v2 still good, these are good as well. try both people!!

[@chrischeung98]

Im really new to the keyboard scene, i just bought some cherry profile keycaps… will they fit for this switch?

[@chrischeung98]

@@Brandonhulett u sure bud? Google says they will fit

[@Keybored]

These will fit! These will fit cherry profile in both south and north orientation so good to go!

[@BatuWienholts]

Just as i bought normal black inks, mechanical keyboard hobby timing

[@Keybored]

Yeah... it happens too often. However, I heard the newest batch of the V2s also have the bifurcated upper housing, so may end up being better due to the tighter tolerances also!

[@TheChrisDecember]

Thanks for your video and comprehensive analysis. Watching the graph, I am happy I got the Ink Black V2s. I don't mind the slight wobble - I don't notice it when typing or gaming. In fact, I am actually glad there is a slight wobble as it accommodates my fast typing, or when I am not in perfect typing position. It sounds deep. Yes, it is on the higher price range, needs to be lubed, and wish it were cheaper. But for now I would not replace it with other switches, except maybe RAMA Ducks as I hear good things about it. I only use PBT MT3 keycaps, so clearance is never an issue for me. I am building a keeb for my girl, and I would consider Milky Yellows.

[@mikemiller7788]

Are these heavy switches or would they be good for typing on all day?

[@henriettanguyen3942]

why is your sound test is so fast ? Why not do typing and slow or medium speed sound test ?

[@hadifelani]

How's the Black BOX INK compared to Oil King? Which one you prefer? Edit : Have you also tried the new G Pro 2.0?

[@lando634]

I think I still prefer the Gateron Ink black V2 as opposed to these, thy just make a better sound

[@Keybored]

These are a bit more sharper in terms of sound due to their more pronounced bottom out

[@lando634]

@@Keybored that makes sense thanks for the info

[@sebastiaanroest-ellis9973]

Do the box pinks also help relive north facing switch interferance?

[@Keybored]

They sure do!

[@8bitsamurai6]

I made a really good black pink switch before i used some all black boba u4t and some stems from akko rose reds. Super cool thocky pop switch with zero stem wobble snd cool look. But pointless not with u4 lt being made.

[@lauhernsean6179]

That North facing interference thing is bliss for poor people but the price... I'll stay with akko cs

[@Keybored]

Yeah Inks always have been the "premium" with a premium price haha. CS works perfectly fine also!

[@lauhernsean6179]

@@Keybored the fact that the Cs switches has no North facing interference is crazy for its low price. Totally deserve the recognition.

[@haruanharuan6546]

Try the new Akko CS Jelly Black...heard they are quite good plus doesn't break the wallet

[@lauhernsean6179]

@@haruanharuan6546I didnt know there a akko cs black. ill check it out rn thanks for it

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

I was literally ranting on another video about Joe incredible box switches were and how hard it was to go back to regular switches..and then this video pops up. Box switches at least khail ones have zero wobble it's crazy

[@Rathia4]

what parts did you lube specifically? never lubed this style of box switches so not sure what to do.

[@Keybored]

Lube exactly same as the standard! It's essentially same design as standard with raised tops walls

[@YzorYzor]

These are not box switches like the Kailh box switches. These are just regular switches just with a box stem.

[@samdeur]

3 times more expensive hope they’re worth it. For me the gateron milky reds are good enough I don’t even notice wobble I have switch films but I never felt the need to use them. Strange.. Lets hope the price comes down a bit more

[@Keybored]

Hope components become more accessible!

[@igieswainebragt]

how smooth are these compared to black inks v1?

[@Keybored]

I don't have the ink V1s on hand, but these are slightly smoother than the V2s

[@RR-ss1tj]

I was about to buy the old inks because I didn’t know about these new box inks. After seeing and listening, I actually want the phantom red and yellow cap v2. 🤦‍♂️ also they are cheaper so it’s a win win. #winning 😆

[@Keybored]

:) Phantom reds and the pro yellows are the same molds, so you might want to grab the pro yellows since they're cheaper!

[@RR-ss1tj]

@@Keybored nice, that makes it match better. i was going to do the yellow cap v2 in the alphas, and fill in the rest with phantom reds. since you said the pro yellow is the same, im going to go with that instead and it will be all yellow. ty, u are a legend.

[@ANg-yz1zl]

Sound and feel great except it hurt the wallet when upgraded. If you are really on the cheap side just stick with a stock switch that came with your keyboard. Most switches even the expensive require lube manually so lube your stock keyboard switch. Next, tape mod for wobble key, add pad, and tape the back of the keyboard PCB for a little more thocky sound. This should get you to about 80% performance /feel/sound of a super high-end custom keyboard for 1/5 to 1/10 the prices.

[@matasa7463]

Indeed, I got the Aqua King V3, and though they are definitely better than my old Gateron Yellows, especially when stock, after lubing and filming, they are surprisingly similar. I can definitely say that the Aqua Kings are better, but the Gateron Yellow, when lubed and filmed, are about about 80-90% there.

[@Keybored]

All switches do turn out much nicer when lubed and filmed! Hence gat yellows are one of the best switches out there for the money! Especially the new pro yellows... these are fantastic!

[@stay-frosty1126]

So Box Inks Blacks or Aqua Kings?? 👀

[@Keybored]

Hmmm... I still need to try out some aqua kings!

[@Raiko01]

The next step in this hobby is really making switches that dont need to be lubed. Its such a boring unnecessary old process that is overdue for an alternative

[@ee1yd]

no switch really 'needs' to be lubed, people just do it because they think it feels/sounds better

[@Raiko01]

@@ee1yd Most switches sound and feel bette when lubed. It would be nice to have that lubed experience without taking a hour or two to lube the entire set of switches. Would be an idea that would sell tbh since while at first it was kinda cool, now its just tedious lmao

[@muckeyn]

@@Raiko01 a lot of jwk switches are prelubed pretty well. Everglide Aqua kings for example. But lubing is something you can dial into your own preferences. The type of lube and how you do it changes the feel and sound. Eventually every switch starts sounding very similar because they actually feel/sound like 205g0. There’s a reason why a lot of switch collectors/enthusiasts keep them stock.

[@Kila4nia]

I would like to see the black Akko Cs jelly switch vs this switch

[@Keybored]

They look similar, but I feel that the box inks are smoother and deeper in sound!

[@fredflint9153]

The latest black ink v2 batches are also updated. The top housing where the led sits also have the line in the middle. Also the housings are tighter than the old ones. Just got mine 2days ago

[@Keybored]

That's great to know! I'll have to order a set to check them out

[@fredflint9153]

@@Keybored yes. Please do so. I was even shocked because i already owned previous ink v2's and immediately messaged the seller on why is there a line in the middle of the opening of the led

[@hynubb3r]

@@fredflint9153 where did u get them?

[@fredflint9153]

@@hynubb3r local reseller here in the philippines

[@Byrin_]

Bottom of the v2 stem got changed too. More flat rounded instead.

[@hnsjnthn]

Do you really not notice the travel distance difference between this and the original ink black?

[@Keybored]

Honestly, I'm typing on it right now and I don't notice it being a low travel. I have used switches with extremely low travel and I really dislike that, but this one it's not bad at all!

[@hnsjnthn]

@@Keybored thanks for the quick reply! My next build is hopefully kbd67lite r3, and i have been pondering between lavender and black ink. Now i gotta add this one into the consideration as well lol

[@abmeight08]

Gateron Pro Yellow is such a good value.

[@Keybored]

An amazing value actually

[@FranktheTank319]

I just got the gateron mochi switches, which are a recolor of the ks-3 switches. They sound so nice lubed and filmed. I love their sound profile.

[@Keybored]

Gateron has really been stepping up their game!

[@Greenskiii]

Just finished my first build with these gat blacks. Tofu 60 with red samurais and a poly plate. I definitely should have spring swapped cause damn this thing is heavy. Especially since I came from cherry browns lol. And I also definitely over lubed. Beginner s mistake. Gonna have to pull em all out and de lube them ugh… it sounds amazing though !

[@Keybored]

Glad to hear that! The TOFU60 is still a great board! You should try doing the O-Ring mod on it. Check out my video on the wireless tofu 60, and I show some good mods on that board to make it sound amazing!

[@PRATIK1900]

@@Keybored can you please make a video about how to make the Akko mod 008 the thocciest it can be? Thanks :D

[@nihalprakash8883]

5:47 mrw the board I waited to get for a year and set an alarm for is sold out in 3 seconds

[@Keybored]

:( some stuff really do go so quick! Like the jelly epoch lol

[@bakeraus]

Black Ink Update! Nice, one of my favorites

[@Keybored]

Definitely one of the best switches!

[@user-kz9rz8ui1c]

I see you picked up some of the gateron pros, will you be doing a full review on them?

[@Keybored]

I wasn't planning to, but perhaps if I do end up doing a Gateron CJ review, I can throw that in as a part! I can tell you tho... the pro switches are fantastic! And they will be featured in a next build with the TM680

[@ChickenMcNublets]

Ink v2 were so bad with quality control... about 60% of the 110 I ordered were scratchy.

[@chrishahn2937]

So is there a 2nd version of the ink black V2s??

[@mikhail6289]

Good video! What difference beetween Cap and Cap milky housing?

[@Keybored]

I think the Cap V2 golden ones are a tad bit smoother and deeper in sound than the milky. But honestly, the milky is a great great value for a fraction of the price!

[@SuperKMao]

So what I'm seeing and hearing is that the Cap V2 Yellows are the best bang for your buck

[@Keybored]

They sure are great bang for the buck!

[@arvinsaavedra897]

Hi, what are the mods done on your keyboard here?

[@substratum3d]

Annnnnd I'm just now finding this video as my Black ink v2"s shipped out yesterday

[@Keybored]

:) The joys of this hobby!

[@Mike-ei8qj]

Sadly I can’t get myself to like these muted switches 😔

[@Keybored]

I think the ink series are very polarizing. Some love it and others do not :)

[@AlClisby]

Excellent video! Would you mind telling me the title of the track that plays during the wobble test? Shazam and Soundhound were unable to identify it. Also really pleased to see these are good switches. Before I stumbled across your video I had ordered some Box Ink Blacks for my first ever keyboard build and now I'm even more excited to start, so thank you.

[@chriskeeb]

These sound good but i recommend at least checking out AKKO CS Jelly Blacks

[@Keybored]

Yup! I have a few boxes of those also! I believe between the 2, they look very similar. But the Box Inks are definitely deeper :)

[@sonofpears7751]

wow this really sounds like my dream keyboard. By the way are there any mods that you did on the Portico?

[@reubencobb6465]

If i had money I would defiantly buy these

[@Keybored]

Yeah, these are definitely more costly

[@yano9669]

nice video. How would you compare these new box switches to the mint linears? Thanks

[@Keybored]

I would say that the mints are still more subdued and deep... they sound "heavy." Also the mints are super smooth due to their UHMWPE stem. The drawback to the mints is that the stem wobble is pretty bad.

[@user-ck4fm7os1w]

IlumbKB or KPrepublic hasn't started selling these yet so imma get myself v2

[@Keybored]

V2s are still great!

[@JackedHero]

Yes! So glad others are reviewing these switches. They’re so good!

[@Keybored]

:) They are right?

[@switchbox.studio283]

Gateron naming conventions: Linear: Ink [ color ] Short Linear: Box Ink [ color ] Tactile: KANGAROOOOO

[@Keybored]

Haha... don't forget the new China Joys

[@cthomas025]

"But honestly, half a millimeter isn't something that I notice terribly..." I do... "...when I'm typing." Oh yes, me neither.

[@Keybored]

Lol everyone is different!

[@fahrikuncoro5254]

What else switch that have no interference with cherry profile keycaps on north facing pcb?

[@beingaduck6189]

what the hell they some like my pe foam modded k522 with stock switches lol

[@Keybored]

:) These sound very poppy and nice!

[@DeividasGedgaudas]

The moment I splrudge and order a Tofu60 with Black Ink V2s you post this video ...

[@ee1yd]

every time lol

[@Keybored]

:) The joys of this hobby! But the ink v2s are still great switches so no problems there!

[@jannclaudebinoya]

Can you do a tutorial on how to properly lube these?

[@Keybored]

I lubed them the same way as other linears! :) But I think for my next batch, I'll skip the film and lightly lube the upper housing slider :) Made the switch sound deeper

[@nefitru]

Would the Black Box Ink help north facing interference like the Oil Kings?

[@Keybored]

The box has a shorter travel, so it should help with interference issues

[@nefitru]

@@Keybored I typed my question before reaching the part where you actually tested north facing interference haha. My bad. Picked up a set of these since they are on sale at NovelKeys. Excited to try them!

[@Donbros]

You should have better compared it to g ink yellow

[@Keybored]

I thought about doing that, but given that these were supposed to be "box black," I decided to put it up against the ink black :) Also, the ink yellows are definitely looser and less refined than these

[@Donbros]

@@Keybored tbh i made myself gateron black inks, but all in yellow by having gat yellow stem in yellow ink body. So no box anymore haha. Pretty fun combinatio n

[@oikauapa]

Thanks for the great informative video, will definitely be ordering some to try them out!

[@Keybored]

:) Hope you like them! I really do!

[@JadeZen520]

That green on the Portico is truly mesmerizing

[@Keybored]

It is like sooo green. Like if you turned Yoshi from Mario into a keyboard green lol

[@iivindictiveii6601]

That sound comparison editing was awesome thank you for doing that!

[@Keybored]

No problem!

[@godofthecows1239]

I think i would buy this switch over the ink v2s, but I would prefer the deeper sound...

[@Keybored]

The sound difference is tad bit there, but it's hard to explain. When I use a board full of the ink v2s, and move onto a board full of the box inks, they feel different. It feels like progress was made between the V2s and the box inks in a pretty good way... especially the housing tightness!

[@godofthecows1239]

@@Keybored What does tightness do to the board?

[@Keybored]

@@godofthecows1239 It helps the overall typing feel much more stable imo. Like for example, if you use caps like SA or MT3 profile, a wobbly switch makes those tall caps feel so loose. Also, for caps like the spacebar, the long nature of it makes the switch "rotate" as you press, so a tighter switch helps to prevent that as well!

[@godofthecows1239]

@@Keybored Does the box inks have the same problems as the ink v2 where there are certain switches that have that "inconsistent scratchiness"???

[@leeshenn8075]

great content! cant wait to order these from taobao for that sweet sweet price reduction

[@Keybored]

:) Hope they satisfy!

[@sshum00]

Oooh you vile evil man. I love you. Just got myself both of them. Aggggh I had not intended on spending money tonight.

[@Keybored]

:) Sorry! I know, there is always something new that comes out and I keep dumping money into it also!

[@MichaelBertolino]

Fantastic review! How would you compare the Box Ink Blacks to Lavenders and Epsilons? I'm looking for the deepest sounding and smoothest switch

[@Keybored]

I haven't had a chance to check out Epsilons, but I assume they will be closer to the Mint switch I tested earlier. The Mint is actually very deep and subdued, slightly more than even the inks. However, compared to the lavenders, the inks are deeper

[@MichaelBertolino]

@@Keybored Very interesting. I'm not sure why nobody is talking about the Mint switches!