⌚ DO NOT BUY these watches NEW - Watches at fractions of retail !!!

[@treedillinger5801]

For most brands grey market (new) is the way to go. For mid tier brands like Omega & Breitling where 40% discounts are the norm, it’s damn near the same price brand new vs used. That’s always been the case with Rolex, except very recently during the “shortage”... which I think is the point of the shortage. This applies to most Patek models as well, except models currently in short supply like the [overrated and overpriced] Nautilus. A good brick and mortar grey dealer will provide both an in store warranty as well as the original warranty card, even if they don’t advertise that they provide the factory warranty.

[@anthonyvierra1975]

You're doing a good job mixing content keeping it interesting. Almost as interesting as your choice in ride I thought my brother was the only person mad enough to drive a XKR.😄👍

[@vrbanitas]

I like the balance you keep between vintage/modern. I personally like vintagy looking modern watches without problems true vintage may have.

[@mickeyx6746]

John thanks for your insights. You and Fed are my go-to experts to keep up on watch trends. Great advice! Thanks so much!

[@JohnPWatches]

Thanks Richard glad to help!

[@almoscola8684]

Great video John, thanks for putting it together!

[@drwindsurf]

This is a great video John. I agree, if you are careful buying pre-owned it is always a great way to hold value...the same thing applies to cars. Another brand I have noticed loses value is Blancpain. Thank you for another interesting video :)

[@JohnPWatches]

Thanks !!!

[@treedillinger5801]

Cars don’t hold value. Unless you’re talking about something very rare and you never drive it and you’re a mechanic and do all the work yourself, you’re talking about losing 90% of the value in 7-8 years. From then on they’re worth less than nothing, as any repair exceeds the value of the car.

[@torbensvensson2093]

Great tips/advices John P!👏🏻👏🏻Thanks for sharing !!!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@diegoog3654]

You forgot to mention Tag Heuer, Franck Muller and Hublot. We'll probably need a part 2. Great vid

[@diegoog3654]

And sadly JLC, and most solid gold watches (even Rolex).

[@philipsdefreville6138]

Basically watches are a bad investment, with the exception of some Rolex and PP.

[@freedomvan2970]

John, I think the mix is great. Also FYI, I get notifications. I have hit the bell icon and il let viewers know there are two levels of notifications to choose: sometimes and all.

[@robertfischer3946]

love the video and the shirt!

[@NowImUnderControl]

Talk about a variety of topics. Particular watches are fine too especially less known ones.

[@locutusdborg126]

Does Lauriato have a transparent back? I really love them but must have exhibition back. Thanks in advance.

[@JohnPWatches]

Depends which one. Current non chrono is display. Chrono is not.

[@jefferyneu3915]

Keep up the mix you have been doing. Please don’t “fix” something that isn’t broken!😍

[@cedarcanoe]

You were spot on about the brands, John. Rado, Granf Seiko, Laurent Ferrier are a few others

[@davelee9791]

Whats your ride John P....liking the car driving episodes …...

[@JohnPWatches]

Don't want to spoil the future episode, be on the lookout lol

[@mike-uw6wt]

Mercedes hardtop convertible is my guess.

[@josecontreras3823]

Bentley?

[@freedomvan2970]

Something about the roof line and rear window looks like a Bentley Continental but I dont think it is.

[@markbadcock4536]

Jaguar F type...gotta be.

[@jamessego6660]

I have an understanding of what you’re saying but the question that has come to my mind is servicing . When I see a watch close to 10 years I am confused by when should it be serviced and what costs. What is your opinion .

[@TheCharlesAtoz]

Honestly, I think doing a deep dive into Brands histories back to their origins- then where they’re at currently.

[@NikonFM2n]

Driving North on A1A is AWESOME.

[@CWO4D]

I like both discussions John P...Keep it up... (-"

[@jpdavis6042]

In a sense you made the case for buying a new Breitling at 30-40% discount. One never made money on them, but at 40% one has a tolerable cushion and a decent watch, some with wrist presence, especially with the mesh or jamming with the always sweet Navi..

[@jet-settingrogue761]

Would be interested to know what the typical mark-up is on these brands?

[@JohnPWatches]

From AD or Manufacture?

[@jet-settingrogue761]

@@JohnPWatches AD

[@eddieturner6747]

I like Breitling but haven’t bought one in 15 years. I still have my 15 yr old Breitling and wore it recently and really enjoyed it and thought about buying another but I see the prices all over the place. Do you recommend a new style Breitling which has not flooded the market yet?

[@ricchrono5907]

I seldom buy brand new watches, the only brand new ones i have was a moonwatch 35th anni panda, and a zenith chronomaster open heart. the zenny I got it off with a discount, somewhere along those lines you mentioned and have been getting a lot of love from me, it's my grail watch. I suppose i would agree with most of the stuff you said and i respect the intention of giving headsup to people who might be dishing out 10s of thousands dollars to a watch. but at the end of the day, buying a watch has always been a lust over needs now. my way of seeing it, as long as you can get it lower than the norm at that time, and you really loving that piece to death, by all means just go for it. oh nice work by the way John, I like this vid of yours more than the other, the way you presenting the ideas is more natural, probably cos you were driving and there are more things for you to worry about instead of speaking perfectly hehehe. keep up with the work and stay true. respect.

[@ronaldtrepanier6606]

Just want to know if pulling the trigger on a Tudor BB58 is a good idea?

[@ordinary999]

Another great video John- 👍

[@siegfrield128]

Dude!!!!!! I'm shocked you've did a video after our conversation! Very informative topic and honest opinion as always. I truly appreciate the advice. Regards from Brazil and I'll see you guys in a couple of months!

[@paucam8087]

Same for Tag Heuer John ! By the way your car looks so nice ! A Panamera ?? Keep talking about vintage and modern watches it is such a good mix. Greetings from France 👍.

[@herts9999]

A smattering of new and vintage is always a good cocktail for success

[@jaygenz46]

More modern reviews please.

[@sd2002]

What about patek philippe dress watches? Great vid

[@aleximd9244]

what brand is that car

[@scottsj4625]

Do both. Vintage which can be very interesting. And Modern watches are good too. To know what is current.

[@jayjimenez6524]

Would like to hear your take on modern watches that are vintage inspired (Omega 1956 Trilogy line, Rado Captain Cook MK II, etc).

[@qnxuxamasesalminger]

A mix between both vintage and modern. Also modern classics from the last 20-30 years would be cool

[@heatherroche5827]

I did not get a notification. Also, would you be willing to share some of the knowledge the older gentleman with cancer, shared with you? Or is that what you just did. Do you still have the first one you bought for sentimental reasons?

[@JohnPWatches]

I sold it, I looked back it was a breitling colt, nice watch but I ended up selling it a long long time ago, All of the other secrets I know and share in videos on my channel :)

[@NikonFM2n]

Hey have you been to the Richard Mille boutique at Bal-Harbor shops? Its awesome.

[@JohnPWatches]

Yes, though i’ll admit- most richard mille does very little for me.

[@NikonFM2n]

I know what you mean, but to see a watch with a G-force gauge made for race car drivers is just mind blowing. The watches are prohibitively expensive to the regular Joe market like us, but the materials used and the creativity in engineering them is impressive. I liken the boutique to a museum of watch innovation or an art museum.

[@markbadcock4536]

I like Corum - but they're so soft on the used markets...

[@kevorknourian5442]

For the strap I prefer vintage looking because I am using for older watch

[@jameswong6590]

I didn't get notified of this video. It is not the first time.

[@javiercartaya1426]

Great video

[@olegvinokur1602]

Hi john what about Rolex steel models should I buy new or preowned?

[@JohnPWatches]

Steel sports if possible buy new at retail price, not possible for most people.

[@TECHFIGHTER]

@@JohnPWatches but what about the Oyster Perpetual, Datejust, etc

[@robertosuarez5720]

What can you said about Enicar watches?

[@charlesstevens7227]

At the moment, steel sports Rolex ( if you're lucky enough to see one of these unicorns at your AD.)is one of the few watches worth buying new. Ming is currently hot, but buyer beware, it can get cold quick.:-) :-)

[@Dongorgon777]

good video, good information

[@thewatchloungechris]

A think a bit of both is good. Wish I knew more about vintage.

[@Bugster987]

Of course (as you mention) this only matters if you are selling it. If you’re a flipper. All irrelevant if you are not. Go in with your eyes open and buy what you like. If you do sell and take a bit of a hit, who cares. Buying nice things costs a bit of money. Cars and tech cost money, why shouldn’t watches. It’s become an obsession over the last couple of years to only buy what gains value (hence the current Rolex tug fest).

[@albertcheng1168]

No it still does matter. Why would I spend 20 to 40% more to buy retail over new grey market? There is no reason unless you want to boutique experience for thousands of dollars more.

[@pablowolf6453]

I just sold a IWC aquatimer for a BIG loss, I don’t know if it’s all the IWCs or just the ones based on an ETA movement

[@JohnPWatches]

IWC tend to hold their value more closer to how hold it is. The older the model is, further from release date, the less it becomes worth. Great watches, just the trend.

[@pablowolf6453]

I used the money to buy a used Blancpain 50 Fathoms Titanium, my first Grial

[@JohnPWatches]

I love Blancpain (in general) tell me you purchased pre owned ?

[@pablowolf6453]

I did! And I think I got a pretty good deal...USD8,900... no box or papers. The watch is in mint conditions, what do you think?

[@pablowolf6453]

John P ??

[@jameswong6590]

Do both vintage and modern

[@scottsj4625]

I have seen Breitling at sams club well discounted. Not a brand I would buy. The brand is very soft.

[@martinmowbray6448]

Like the interior of the car. Love to know what make it is. Looks well classy. ❤️👍👍

[@JohnPWatches]

Episode in future- can’t spoil :)

[@slatzman9000]

Jaguar xk coupe

[@constantinehorozov4321]

XKR, nice, I use to have one, great car!

[@johnfrei9057]

Constantine Horozov Prettiest car Jaguar has made in awhile . . . and of course they’ve discontinued it.

[@erne75]

I've lusted about a Navitimer Rattrapante for a while now but between being a 45mm, which is kind of too big for my wrist, and the $7k (gray market) I decided to pass...Still, a split second complication for that kind of money sounds like a steal. Breitling is soft as sh**t, right now...

[@JohnPWatches]

Good time for a deal ;)

[@johnfrei9057]

More vintage please: that’s where I think most of us need more help.

[@Bobsbargainbasement]

All above my price point! 😂 John what car are you driving?

[@JohnPWatches]

Episode coming soon where I include in review :)

[@LordArioh]

spoiler alert, it's Jaguar XK

[@tonyl7000]

modern especially with Baselworld around the corner.

[@timothythomas1626]

All the Punters seem to think Tight Pants Tony. Single Handedly Raised the Price of GP? I don't

[@yankeedoodle6293]

nice car! What is it ?

[@jameswong6590]

I bought my Breitling Navitimer, Girard Perregaux 1961, Zenith El Premiero all brand new. Lol. Sorry I am OCD about the condition of the watches.

[@JohnPWatches]

Contact us next time, we also save BIG on new, just don't advertise this.

[@jameswong6590]

@@JohnPWatches ok sure

[@Teymurphell2]

Modern is what we want

[@ahokie]

Engine sounds like 5.0L V8 in a Jag XK?

[@alintudor1052]

Not everybody buys watches to resell...if you don’t know where to look for buying a pre owned...maybe it’s better to buy it new...you will have full warranty, no polish or over polish, no changhed parts and so on...I think now you are trying to get your shop in front...I understand your job and I like you and Fed more than other watch channel, but you need to be honest and tell also the advantages fot buying new...have a good weekend.

[@Anthony-cc8bx]

Any watch that is high in circulation will depreciate from their new price. You'll never be able to sell at retail price unless the watch is a limited edition that isn't available and even if they aren't they may still not hold value. Watches are terrible investment as a whole. The only way to make money is to buy them cheap from unsuspecting sellers and flip them. I found a Rolex Skyrocket for $200 when it's worth $2000+.

[@johnvoorhees6799]

Is that an Aston martin you're driving sir

[@LordArioh]

Jag XK

[@tods.9947]

This is “Riding with John P.”

[@JohnPWatches]

My mind went other places lol

[@Milofchg]

LOL 😂

[@martinmowbray6448]

You need to rename your channel as well.. Driving with John p. 😅😅

[@watchpronometer6898]

U forgot to mention Omega...in fact..every brand that is not Rolex or Patek Nautilus.

[@ihartmovies2885]

Breguet, GO and JLC.

[@VersedNJ]

I wouldn't mind being pre-owned, but I don't want to get into the vintage thing. Something maybe a few years old.

[@danielkatz7516]

Sorry, John, i meant to say John

[@aaronmcnaughton7018]

Stay away from a brandnew Hublot 🚫

[@danielkatz7516]

Are driving a Renault Paul???, not that i know squat about cars, nice plush leather though, may bo with your Breitling Hat

[@johngentile6814]

Another brand losing value-jean Richard Mark up on watches is 100%.

[@rob1058]

You need a vintage car!!

[@JohnPWatches]

I'm out of parking spots- the area I live is bad for this, but I have a few on my list :)

[@mdo5121]

And yet these preowned watches do not offer great discounts...i guess the word is out

[@JohnPWatches]

Pre owned watches are almost always the more cost effective option, without only a few anomalies...

[@david.9633]

More modern please

[@hodad924]

I’m sorry but you can’t say you’re a fan of GP but unironically misspell it

[@sealevelbear]

Modern.

[@mentalplane]

Looks like used watch selling is very lucrative

[@seant4710]

modern

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Total nonsense. Buy new and enjoy the peace of mind that it's not a fake and that you are the first owner. When you buy a used watch you are buying somebody else's problem.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Pretty much buy Rolex and most Pateks new, everything else buy pre-owned 😉

[@lucioledizerot196]

Some FP Journes also demand a premium pre-owned

[@mpikers]

I was going to write pretty much the same thing. Buy Rolex, Patek, Royal Oaks and some Tudor's new, buy everything else used.

[@almeladze]

More modern watches please. And please less rolex, panerai, and PP. Talk more about interesting brands that are actually available for purchase (IWC, Zenith, Jacquet Droz, JLC, Arnold and Sons, etc).

[@JohnPWatches]

Great idea- I am due for one of these brands

[@thederp7690]

Modern

[@FrankDTank16]

This made my daily poop very pleasant, thank you.

[@JohnPWatches]

LOL