Do NOT Buy This LS Supercharger... | RPM S8 E62

On Today's Episode of the RPM Web Series, we finish up a few C6 Z06 heads only cars and dyno tune a C6 Auto with a supercharger.
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[@socleanmx6]

Love the fact you called them out by name most people wont.

[@TexasGTO]

Who else guessed edelbrock before seeing it?

[@CamaroThings]

[@Rickster818]

TexasGTO first company that came to mind

[@Joe_likesthepump]

I did, but I like mine 650whp and drives impeccable. 5.6 lbs of boost

[@gsppuffer]

@@Joe_likesthepump 650 on 5lbs you must've stared at 500+ na

[@Joe_likesthepump]

Idk never had it stock,but stock fuel system and no eth made 530whp. Stock fixed head and cam

[@jasonsanders6930]

😂😂😂 fight me here’s my address 😂😂😂

[@privateparty4900]

Now edelbrock must SWAT them to complete the natural lifecycle of the internet argument.

[@loushear4497]

Well this just saved me money. I was looking into the supercharger. Thank you.

[@Jay-gs5xg]

More people like this need to call manufacturers out when they make a shitty product. They would have a little more motivation to put out great parts.

[@PhalanxFire]

Fran is soooo frank. LOL . This is WHY I subscribe. Definitely unbiased 'review' .

[@mattfalk3990]

RPM did their cam package on my 08 M6 LS3 and that made more power then that blower..

[@Snowkone81]

It's simple - RPM uploads a new video, I click and like before watching it, then watch it at least once, rinse and repeat. Keep up the great work guys!

[@AliHusain-qk7mz]

I would be so mad if I spent 6k on a blower and it only made 63whp more! Glad I went with procharger P1X system. Made 604Whp, TQ 554 From my baseline at 430whp.

[@leepederson5254]

Ali Husain imagine being the owner seeing the video lol

[@AliHusain-qk7mz]

@@leepederson5254 i would take that blower out asap!

[@dennistate9951]

He could have done a CAM+SPRINGS+TUNE and made more.. crazy

[@BobbyB910]

This is my first vid of yalls but man yall just got a sub I love it

[@drron5608]

Thank u for the honesty on this channel its refreshing cant stand other channels lying about products cause they r getting kickbacks

[@aumetalmental8403]

Thnx for still putting out a video. Can't wait to see Cody's car when it's finished. 😎✌️

[@jaylee121388]

On today's episode of of what grinds frans gears 🤣🤣

[@georgem.6136]

Joeys car is really going to make some power. The Frankenstein heads area super nice addition! Cant wait to see what it makes, blower only & on all the spray !

[@dannyh5700]

474 WHP with a blower? ouch. Damn and after Frans tune.

[@Nizz8daGrizz8]

There's something else wrong with it

[@dannyh5700]

@@Nizz8daGrizz8 There has to be. Edelbrock should be a proud legacy by now.

[@jessejames1731]

Thanks for calling them out by name buddy. Some people spend their hard working money to buy a supercharger and labor just to find out to be disappointed is messed up

[@R1j0hn]

65hp for $5000...? What a joke !

[@RTM459]

J0HN_R1 heads cam exhuast would do better

[@Nizz8daGrizz8]

My kit puts down 554hp and 530 tq. Same blower. With headers and mid pipes

[@danielfair4675]

@@Nizz8daGrizz8 dynos can give varying bloated numbers. Best hit a reputable dyno shop.

[@lolyouwontfindme6070]

Bro I bet long tube headers and a flex fuel kit could do better lol

[@godspeedsendit9610]

What did the bottom of the ocean do to you?

[@corvettez069]

The LT version...great!! The LS version... dumpster 😂😂

[@CPAJayhawk]

The heads fix on a C6 Z isn’t super cheap, but for the power increases you see from just that and a tune, makes it easier to stomach

[@camirocz]

There is no power increase from fixing heads. Zero. Porting yes not from fixing the trunion issue .

[@doctorgap]

Knew it was an edelbrock before even watching the video 😂

[@null2268]

beasst. mode Same. Fran is so funny 😂.

[@philkolesar6150]

Same

[@Rhett.Castillo]

Same here! Pretty sad. Lol

[@doctorgap]

@@Rhett.Castillo dude when I had my 5th gen ss I installed a procharger and it was pretty decent for a 5th gen, my buddy wanted boost and his dumbass bought the edelbrock and it was DRASTICALLY slower with literally the same mods I had and same tuner here in Phoenix. Those things are absolutely garbage 😂

[@null2268]

@@doctorgap The only people who buy E-Force are 55 year old base Corvette owners with white new balances, jorts, an oversized and faded C2 Corvette t-shirt tucked in with a braided belt. Don't forget sports sunglasses and a dad hat to top it off.

[@chaseplumlee5123]

Used those M311s on my C6 build. Will be cool to see you do video on them.

[@michaeln.7083]

That edelbrock blower must not be very efficient,.. small IC brick, idk but considering just heads and cam make more power, that's pathetic for pd,. Love your content and Fran loves that blower,.. I mean boat anchor!! Keep it up, glad you guys are able to keep working

[@larrynewberry3500]

Nice power gains on the ZO6'S with just the AI fixed heads. Great job guy's. Stay safe and keep up the videos for those of us at home. Waiting to play safe again and get car done.

[@dmraco]

That was my car. Kinda cool seeing it featured since it was just a head repair

[@VerisimilitudeDude]

@@dmraco No videos of your car?

[@dmraco]

Verisimilitude Dude it was the yellow one they were working on the heads. Dyno is around 9 minutes mark

[@ssoffshore5111]

The tune accounts for a significant portion of that increase.

[@larrynewberry3500]

@@ssoffshore5111 I understand that. The heads also adds to that number.

[@Paulster2]

Gee, Fran, tell us how you really feel ...

[@thinbluelinemustang372]

What I was gonna say lol...

[@dongerber227]

This was 3 yrs ago, before E-85 was popular, with the Edelbrock E-Force you need smaller pulley, big fuel pump and big injectors with E-85 and you'll get 700hp out of a LS3 motor, That's what I did for $20k and its fun running @ 11 psi

[@billbob9570]

i keep leaning out j normal pully no e

[@97clubcar]

Great video. Have you had any experience with the Whipple supercharger for the C6 ls3

[@frsguy5347]

a Set of heads make more power than that supercharger, ouch....

[@codejunki567]

To be fair it was a different engine and car. They were both red...but one was a Z06

[@trickmytrailer]

Cam only LS3’s will make considerably more power than that blower. Way cheaper than heads

[@codejunki567]

@@trickmytrailer The heads were put onto a LS7

[@trickmytrailer]

I know

[@Nizz8daGrizz8]

I have that setup and it's 554hp and 530tq

[@petet2036]

My friend had a edlebrock e-force on his 2012 camaro ss and it was nothing but problems since day one. His tuner highly recommended he get a different blower. After selling it and buying a procharger he went from 490 on the e-force to 625 on the procharger!

[@MrRandradez28]

I love my "Size Matters" T-Shirt, good choice Fran. LOL

[@mikecrevier4686]

Fran, ya its 25 psi plus and magic cam, Joey's CTSV is a weapon now and watch the show now boys. Gotta pay to play is the whole game but RPM gets it's done on any budget. I've been watching since day 1

[@americanspeedshops823]

Can’t beat the price of the M311 heads. I have used them a few times! Great price point!!

[@TheBevis593]

I LOL’d for a good 30 seconds when you repeated Eric’s cam, dad joke 😂

[@edwardmyers1746]

Dang, didnt realize edelbrock was like that.... sounds like you need a pulley the size of a dime LOL

[@yatubekid]

A real hidden gem, Frankenstein Heads. Some of best heads in my opinion.

[@carfirehawk1]

"If someone at Edelbrock wants to fight me here's our address" lmfao

[@swagger7]

Whew - glad Fran said "...Their LT version are great!"

[@Sauerbrew777]

Those Edelbrock blowers are like 6-7k!

[@OGBaker420]

10:55 Oh yeah Steve? “He’s got one aweady”???? 😂🤣🤣💀

[@zachjohanson1775]

Is there ever going to be an update on Fletchers CTS-V?

[@charlesbeans2398]

I like frans attitude and demeanor. Dudes pretty cool

[@c5natie1]

Spending $6K on a blower plus install and tune just to get gapped by a cam only LS3 LOL OUCH

[@Trucker0308]

As a matter of fact the 2300 edelbrock makes for the LT4 application is ALSO SUSPECT but the tvs 2650 on LT4 with supporting mods is pretty good

[@GTStuning-]

At 9:39 and 19:10, wow those are like Msd ported intake and headers numbers, so the stock headers must be damn good. Confusingly though it seems to show that the stock air intake is not that bad, while I thought the consensus was that they are quite restrictive 🙃

[@Joeshomegarage]

So if I get 2 of those superchargers i can add 120 hp!

[@MrAnubus27]

Thank you! I will not buy an E-brok. I have a 6.2 2011 GS with dry sump and 6spd. I'm not looking for crazy power, but low 600's what SC would you recommend ?

[@williamstanfield1216]

Fran is brutally honest about product quality.

[@ntme9]

Glad I chose whipple, it's been solid

[@KentuckyGameGuy]

We need a Fran rant montage

[@jeffclayton9968]

Great job fellas.

[@sunzoutgunzout8887]

Got a 10 ss with that on a 416 with a 60p lift cam made 700 to tire. Not worthless

[@jasontrevis7142]

Can you overlay before and after including torque, hp , boost and rpm.

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!1 Caprice sounds great... :-) Stay safe... :-)

[@fabianvaldez6101]

Looks like it has sleeves done to it! The one Eric is building.

[@angelobovara317]

My Edelbrock on a stock LS2 motor with lots of fuel delivery capacity went from 344 to 461. Looks like its gonna be awhile before it gets to the track.

[@jeromeadams5692]

My cam only ls2 is making 450 rwhp and has went 11.79 @122 with crappy 1.8 60’ (still learning new clutch) and that was 2300 DA. Better air and more practice will be 11.5 @ 123

[@gregwilliams4380]

Is the problem the blower or the tune to the blower is the better question? Please let me know

[@gregwilliams4380]

Question though is is the problem with the acronym supercharger with the tune to the supercharger?

[@tyleryuhas6792]

Hey steve what brand in the protective wrap you guys use on the fenders ? Some guys at the shop I hangout at we’re talking about it cuz they just use the summit covers there. And btw frank heads are kickassss we have a vette in the shop making over 700 n/a with them

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

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[@tyler7327]

I literally just watch this for Fran. So funny!

[@mikehamilton7206]

Is it me or did anyone else see the back of that Corvette on the first pull on the Dino in the video, flexing like a mother? WOW LOL

[@Motor-City-Mike]

Damn, there goes over forty years of getting quality parts from Edelbrock right out the window....

[@Itsdrew8492]

Basically why when someone says they have a blower and their car is fast but open the hood and it’s that blower I’m like “yeeaaaahhhh buddy” 😂😂😂👍🏻

[@justinjones5288]

Wonder what the IAT coming out of the blower is

[@santinovelasco971]

Can’t wait to see the ctsv back in action

[@milojanis4901]

Please tell me why they aren't doing better than that. I thought the E Force was the same basic unit that came on the LS9. I guess not, but I'm wondering....Is the driven pulley is too large?

[@whatatime3311]

Fran is Gangsta...

[@wrzl1675]

They use Eaton TVS blowers across the board but I’m not aware of what they may have done internally to those Eaton blowers.

[@invertedpolarity6890]

It uses the same TVS2300 as the others. But that number is a lot lower than it should be. But it is April 1st, so...

[@SpencerFPV95]

was just watching some of the older vids, and i guess i may have missed it or maybe it wasn't mentioned but what happened to Sean?

[@shawnreppert1493]

My 11 grandsport eforce, headers, midpipes, injectors, boost a pump, air intake went 11.05 at 127 I was more then happy

[@WILLISKS]

TELL'EM HOW YOU REALLY FEEL FRAN!!!! LMAO

[@backmonavery]

Damn. This the 1 I was looking at

[@5219sg]

60mm cam on the engine build?

[@charlesmoderbacher9720]

Do you ever get a chance to check the guides on any of the stock LS7 heads that you remove, be interesting to see what percentage are bad.

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

Nope, that’s a waste of time as they’re getting sent to A.I. and fixed.

[@charlesmoderbacher9720]

RaceProvenMotorsports 👍🏻

[@soyounoat]

I should have guessed when he gave his unfiltered opinion that the shop is in Delaware. I lived there for my first 23 years and all the mechanics I knew sound like that.

[@spdkilz9997]

really excited to see what becomes of joeys v

[@vincentfisher5895]

Damn .those aftermarket heads made more power than that edlebrock supercharger .

[@johnnygo1509]

Ouch my cam only made more than that 😂

[@tonymartinez1647]

I was about to purchase this supercharger next week… Nevermind. Question… what supercharger do u recommend for a 2010 sierra 6.0

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

Magnuson. Shoot us an email we can take care of you

[@lolyouwontfindme6070]

I’m thinking of pro charging my 2007 LS2 Corvette (It’s a base model) what do y’all think? Any ideas? I’m going with the LS9 Cam and the centrifugal supercharger, but any advise?

[@omargonzalez4919]

Procharger is all I run

[@hotrodder5034]

Michigan is on lockdown till the end of April......maybe. There is a car show everyday all summer long in the Detroit area. But I'm not so sure now with this virus crap going on! Our first summer North Atlantic International Auto Show has already been canceled! ☹

[@dukenukem7183]

How much power did that other one make that had the Maggy heartbeat blower compared to the Edelbrock

[@wesleybeeson1818]

I would like to know also

[@MrMediina1]

Fran wants all the smoke 😂😂

[@2010romeyrome]

The ending 🤣🤣

[@davidconley3610]

Something wrong here Angry Eric happy and Matt grumpy to start the video!

[@wesleybeeson1818]

“None!”!i laughed my ass off!!

[@DBSSTEELER]

Who did the install? Was this a new kit or a used one? I have seen people make good power with the Edelbrock superchargers.

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

Customer installed. New kit

[@nickyturboboy]

Fran why not LLR? Bob @ Cam Motion set me up. Steward lifters PAC mini 8* locks PAC springs and big rpms with little chance of valve float.

[@nickyturboboy]

Centri blower and 8k sound sick

[@JosephOjea316]

Quick to call something trash. Do a little research, is not the supercharger. It’s the mechanic. Edelbrock is a direct bolt on, super safe, super usable, superb daily boost application. Even with nothing more than the mildest of pully / tune from edelbrock, you’re looking at an increase of 120 WHP to a bone stock car. Fact.

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

Hahahhaa. No it’s trash. I’m glad you are able to read from the companies website

[@invertedpolarity6890]

@@RaceProvenMotorsports Nah. You guys are trash for crapping on a customer’s car and making a video about it. Perfectly fine taking the customer’s money though. And you don’t even tune it properly.

[@Shaker1000]

Cam and full bolt on and e85 tune makes that!

[@randallmason9687]

I have seen Mustangs with that blower running mid/low 10s. To bad They missed the mark on the ls version!

[@AzOm606]

Fran with the quick hands lol they’re going to hire chuck Norris and send him your way

[@smiller225]

I thought it was going to be a torque storm lol

[@dennistate9951]

Me too

[@473sgpm2]

474😵 Lol, I’d get more than that with heads, cam, and tune since my SS is bolt on😂

[@zacharynelson3405]

Can you guys make shirts that just say "Sure Steve"

[@theeducatedredneck4144]

A friend of mine put an Edelbrock supercharger on his LS3 Corvette and was very disappointed in it. He ended up removing it and selling it.

[@dominickirkwood]

I love it my guys rpm keep up the work and I love the video 💯💯💯💯 real true

[@wesleybeeson1818]

What’s the recommended blower for ls3 camaro?

[@421ssrida]

Magnuson 2650 if you want maximum power. Whipple 2.9 if your looking for 900-1050hp. The maggie 2300 will produce the same pwr for more money. That's why I brought up the whipple unit.

[@ssx6867]

what camshaft was on the car ?? maybe it was not for boost application

[@RaceProvenMotorsports]

stock, the cam was not the problem.

[@francismartin2427]

What's the best supercharger for the LS2?

[@bricehatcher8391]

I've heard the magnusen heartbeat is amazing. I know they have ls3 and ls7 kits. So I bet they have ls2 kits

[@carguy6636]

I'd be so pissed if I spent that much on a blower and it gained that much power. There would be a phone call for sure.