Do not make this stupid mistake - Intel Core i9-13900K build with Asus ROG Strix Z790-A

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

The final product is here if you want to see it :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqfGY4Njo9OMa6c

[@zillwinter9160]

Hi! sorry to disturb you but can i ask whether it's a good idea to pair 13700K with 240mm aio on top mount or should i go 360mm aio on the front mount??? cause my case is not that big and i dont know which one i should buy.

[@jamieclarke2694]

Oh my god I unscrewed my cpu latch thing to replace with the lga1700 bracket for the pressure and I was stupid and let the back plate fall off. This is the first video, image, or website including gigabytes own and this was the first video that showed me which way round it is on the back of the mobo so thank you! 😅 saved my ass today. Liked and subscribed for that reason, and the video itself is good too

[@Tachyshor]

Means can i pair intel i9 13900k with this mobo? Ddr4 version? I don't want any type of issue in future Is this mobo future proof mean i want to pair it with i8 13900k Am i going to face any issue?

[@ivandominicaballe349]

@TheProvokedPrawn It says on the box, D4. It meant the board is DDR4

[@Lexse]

Why are people in the comment section being exceptionally rude? He made a simple mistake, don’t act like you haven’t either throughout the entirety of your lifetime, lol

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

And the hilarity is I only posted the video so others wouldn't do the same 🤣

[@prometheusprime2004]

CAUSE PEOPLE ARE PRETTY STRIX 😅😂😂😂

[@prometheusprime2004]

Like strict people be bitches some times y’feelme?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

To the people leaving negative comments, I'm fully aware it was a stupid mistake and I'm an idiot. That's why I put it in the title. Not everyone is as knowledgeable about which parts fit with what and it's unusual for modern tech not to work with the latest parts. D4 in the title of the product is hardly 100% clear that it's DDR4 only. I was sent the motherboard and made an assumption, with limited time I didn't research before I started building as I didn't have much time and it takes hours to build a PC while also recording footage from multiple angles for videos and build guides. There's no need to be obnoxious.

[@davidbrennan5]

I have ordered a few things I couldn't use because I didn't look closely at the details, it happens. People make mistakes, admitting them right away and moving forward instead of dwelling on them is best in my experience.

[@Mu7eD-Stream]

I have to support you here with the speed of delivery from UK tech companies such as scan ie next day or even same day in some circumstances and the fact almost every UK town has a PC shop, getting access to some DDR4 to test would be extremely quick to the point where this mistake could easily have been hidden with a simple pause in filming. Those quick to judge are jealous and it's an easy way to troll. They are most likely still rocking their 7th Gen i5's or first gen ryzens dreaming of what it could be like. The point of the video is to make people pay attention to compatibility information before they make a purchase, not all generations are the same or backwards compatible. Added information in the UK you can RMA a product for any reason in the first 14 days if bought online therefore if you made this mistake at home it would be quick and easy to switch it out for a RAM of your choosing.

[@Underground.Rabbit]

not the first time internet hurt your feeling bro and fk the assholes

[@Rzn8B58]

Perhaps you can give me some insight that would be greatly appreciated. I'm also building in a lian li dynamic xl and I'm also looking at this exact board for a white build and the strix F board for a black build. I'm wondering how do you connect all the usb front panel on the case to a board like this and the F models that have 1x3.2 gen2 header, only 1x3.2 gen1 header and 2x2.0 headers onboard? the lian li case needs 1x3.2 gen2 and 2x3.2 gen1 for all the front panel usb ports to function from what pcpartpicker is telling me and I was wondering if I can use a 3.2 gen1 Y splitter off of the boards only 3.2 gen1 header or would I need to use a 2.0 female to 3.2 20pin male adapter and hook up to one of the 2.0 headers? I find your video explanations helpful and detailed, especially the videos you have on going crazy with rgb fans. I've only built one system that I've been using for about 3 or 4 years now and I like this system the way it is (5.17 ghz on an i59600kf) and I want to build another 2 modern gpu/cpu systems for my Daughter and I. I wanted something with a lot of pink rgb in a white build for hers and a purple black for myself and yours and a few others videos demystified the process for me so, thanks.

[@ReyderRisco]

It is not a stupid mistake and you're not an idiot. things like this might happen to anyone. This is not about being more or less smart, this about being more thoughtful on your research before you buy. You just neglected to do proper research beforehand, at worst impatient and lazy but not an idiot 🤣

[@devonespy2102]

They also make a Z790-A that takes DDR5 RAM (4x DIMM, Max 128gb, DDR5 Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory). Thank god I found this out before ordering or I would be in the exact same boat as you!

[@smokethatgameb9937]

What’s the difference?

[@deejay7339]

I was confused because mine absolutely takes DDR5

[@ReyderRisco]

This can also be avoided by sticking strictly to CPUs, RAM sticks and SSDs listed on the compatibility lists on the motherboard manufacturer's website. I hate terribly when something like this happens to me so I never stray from those lists.

[@princekittipon6510]

i checked on asus rog z790 E gaming list and sk hynix p41 ssd m.2 is not on the list. will they still be compatible ? idk where to find answer to this i looked thru google already

[@ReyderRisco]

@@princekittipon6510 the compatibility of a SSD is not as problematic as that of RAM sticks. In theory, any SSD should work on any motherboard (if the form factor fits physically). Not listed there doesn't mean that it doesn't work it means that Asus hasn't test it yet.

[@jcvjcvjcvjcv]

Like those lists contain anything that is still available a year after the list was made...

[@10th_Doctor]

@@jcvjcvjcvjcv Actually they do. Wasn't willing to spend an arm and a leg for the E of the model, but am getting the H and managed to find the compatible memory and parts easily.

[@GuestOfGregoryHouse]

Can't wait to get started building my first pc. I ended up needing to buy a new case after realising the rtx4090 was going to be too big. Still struggling to get a 4090 anywhere though. I was even sat at 2pm on release day pondering too much on which one, wanting to see reviews first. And they all sold out in minutes 😔

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Damn. Sorry to hear it. I too have been on the hunt.

[@lucid9099]

@@TheProvokedPrawn PCcasegear has plenty 4090's

[@zigzack54]

@@lucid9099 for more than double the MSRP

[@shiraz1736]

What’s the hurry , just stay at the back of the flock and wait 🐑.

[@RivalGrimReaper]

As an owner of a 4090 zotac amp extreme, would highly recommend, they look.the best of all the 4090 series cards imo, and they also have the longest warranty at 5 years. Been running mine hard for 2 weeks, and it never goes above 55 C°.

[@katsnow9256]

Great video, thank you! We all make mistakes in our builds ( I used to work as a line tech for a company that built servers). This happens to everyone at some point, especially when working fine print and new parts!

[@908947]

The name of the board is completely "ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4". The "D4" = ddr4 ;)

[@zacharywilliams9848]

That sucks! But thank you for giving us the shots of the CPU latch down AND the taking off of the plastic on the glass. Those things are so oddly satisfying.

[@jwdynamite]

Broooooo I was literally in the process of making this mistake and found this video on my suggested. Just ordered some ddr5 ram to go with the upgrade to gen 13 you da best

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Nice

[@Comet-lv3nk]

that comment you made near the end about the timings on ddr4 being much lower than on ddr5 means pretty much nothing, ddr5 has two channels per dimm and also has the power delivery built onto the ram itself whereas on ddr4 you can only get one channel per dimm and the power delivery is on the motherboard, and the bandwidth on ddr5 heavily outbalances the tighter timings on ddr4, especially when youre running xmp/docp on both as they are both going to be extremely loose (thanks to jedec subtimings, primaries dont matter much for performance).

[@TransAmDan28]

Also CAS is based on clock cycles. So 6000mhz ddr5 compared to 3000mhz ddr4, even if your CAS timing were double the figures on DDR5 it would have the same access time as DDR4.

[@Comet-lv3nk]

@@TransAmDan28 yeah thing is cas, trcd(rd/wr), trp and tras do basically nothing for performance anyway, the subtimings do signifigantly more especially trrds/trrdl and tfaw, thats why theres no point in getting a, for example 3600 cl14 kit over a 3600 cl18 kit if your just gonna run xmp. if youre gonna oc then thats an entirely different story haha

[@Tuetensuppe3000]

You are making me nervous now. Ordered the motherboard, together with a 13700k earlier today. Though on the retailer website it clearly states DDR5. I just checked the ASUS site and it says DDR4. Well, contacted the retailer to check if it indeed is the D4 they are selling, or if it is the DDR5 one. Hoping for the latter. Thanks for the heads up! Possibly prevented quite the headache!

[@animalyze7120]

The D4 is not reference to Ram, never has and never will be. Ram is always specified in the specs clearly as DDR then the number. D4 refers to part of the Model ID in the name. No way to make that mistake at all.

[@maddogtannen69]

Just watching this now and bought this MB and made sure they gave me the right board

[@GuidoDePalma]

"There are still arguments for using DDR4. It's cheaper and there are less issues with XMP. In other words it's more stable but it can also have lower timings compared with DDR5" Correction: it has lower bandwith but lower timings. Said that way makes it look like lower latency is a bad thing, where the opposite is true.

[@dhplayground]

Nothing new here, Strix Z690-a is also DDR4. I guess when you get stuff for free, you don't have to bother with things like research or using pcpartpicker :)

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Well yes. I am aware that the Z690 boards might have had DDR4 but I figured the newer generation wouldn't. I also had no say in what I was sent and they didn't mention it was DDR4. 🤣 So yes. I should have checked and this is why I made the video because not everyone will be as aware or as savvy as you. 👍😎

[@daniellooi5096]

iirc I saw a version of strix Z690-A with DDR5, which is mostly circulating in the Chinese market, also it can be found on the website of Asus.

[@dhplayground]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I hadn't built a PC in 10 years, so I been binge learning/catching up in the last 6-8 weeks, which is how I ended up subscribing to your channel. My previous comment was written with humor in mind, nothing malicious btw :)

[@hello_its_me.]

@@TheProvokedPrawn never "figure" when it comes to any computer parts compatibility or what is supported. always go with tech spec facts and datasheets.

[@Scorpiusza]

PC Part Picker helps make sure there are no compatability or bottleneck issues.

[@Dysclosed]

I DID THE SAME THING🤣. I ordered a 13900k with the asus z790 tuf D4 instead of the Asus z790 tuf regular DDR5. Caught it when it was in shipping and was able to start a return.

[@marcleblanc7295]

i built pc's in the 90's but at 53 i havent 'lost an ioa of that smarts - ive ordered products ... maybe i should do a video finally glad i've known this for 36 yrs

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

You're so clever.

[@t5kcannon1]

Excellent stuff. How did you obtain a raptor lake cpu? Thought the release date was 20th October.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I'm kind of a big deal. Not really, I got one from my day job and for videos on machine builds

[@TheManCaveMike]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I was gonna say, with only 56k subs, who did you kill, rob or blow for it lol

[@kostistsiutras4373]

look at the bright side, now you can buy the Gskill Trident 32GB 4000mhz (F4-4000C14D-32GTZR) with Cas Latency of only 14 and super tight timings that actually beats in performance 99% of the entirety of all ddr5 lower than 7800mhz.

[@melcrose]

It can be various, it can be different - BUT IT CANNOT BE "various different"

[@Fr3shMan421]

This actually happen to me as well. I bought ddr4 ram instead of ddr5. Said it on the box and everything you needed ddr5 lol.

[@DATRecords604]

I wonder why they decided to use ddr4 on this one. It seems to me this MB was absolutely perfect IF it had DDR5. The aesthetic is brilliant and the one I wanted to buy but won't cause of the ram. I wish they made a D5 version of this exact model. Does anyone know if they'll do it anytime soon?

[@HenryBro54]

It only has this one the "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E LGA 1700 " which is also white and with ddr5 supported but it's just not that good looking like this one the "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A" I am also wondering why they couldn't make this one as a ddr5 model.

[@animalyze7120]

Because DDR5 is not relevant enough to warrant a complete redesign yet, neither is PCIe 4.0. Sure it's new but hardly exciting, the speeds are on level with DDR4 and upcoming higher end speeds are not fast enough over 4 to warrant upgrading to it. Ram jumps in 2 or even 3 stages is normal, if you're already sporting DDR4 then you won't be impressed till at least DDR6 maybe 7. It's just not that important unless you are crunching large amounts of data like the Seti project and such. Games no need for it yet.

[@DATRecords604]

@@animalyze7120 I understand your point but at the same time it seems very strange that at this point in time, with the new technological advancements and PCI 5.0 they won't have a version of this board with D5. If one wants to build a new machine now with i13 should be just logical one embraces the new technology rather than the older. And a person can game and crunch data with the same machine, or do rendering like in my case and would benefit of the newest technology (also because one can change the D5 dimms later on and get more performing blocks in a few years perhaps, as opposed to D4 that probably won't advance much in speed/latency in the coming years).

[@lukastemberger]

Almost all z690 and z790 boards are available in ddr4 and ddr5 variants. It's the first and most important thing to check... Any minimal advantage that ddr5 has in terms of speed is not worth the huge price difference. It's just a temporary situation though.

[@DATRecords604]

@@lukastemberger not this one though, which is a shame. I am waiting for the more expensive versions but this mb was perfect if it was d5 as i want to start with the new technology in my workstation

[@skurjo9975]

Ram Timings are actually rated as cycles not miliseconds so ram that is at 6000mhz and a cas latency of 40 is exactly as fast as a 3000mhz cas latency of 20. the term latency can be misleading as most people the its measured as a unit of time and dont realize its how many cycles.

[@gregnezz]

Thank you for the review. I'm about to buy the z690 version today. I would of automatically assumed that the z790 would of been ddr5, so its an easy mistake to make, especially if its someone like you already on ddr5.

[@animalyze7120]

Well we all know what Assumption is the Mother of right? All Fuch-ups.

[@soulfyre6521]

Z790-E uses ddr5 but not -A?

[@hughmongous2554]

*would've

[@DerekDavis213]

The first mistake is paying BIG money for this z790 motherboard, when a z690 board for $190 USD works just as well.

[@thealien_ali3382]

U get extra lanes and more bandwidth. But Ur right a z690 will do just fine, I always get the last tier board, such as z390 and hopefully z790.

[@DerekDavis213]

@@bobdol69 Higher speeds? Higher than 6400 MHz? Can you elaborate?

[@parsa475]

"this product isn't useful to me therefore it cannot be useful for anyone else either"

[@DerekDavis213]

@@parsa475 "Buying a motherboard for $500 USD is foolish when a $200 motherboard *works* *just* *fine* " Parsa, In America no savvy PC builder would *waste* *500* *dollars* on a motherboard. It makes more sense to spend that money on a faster video card, or better LCD monitor.

[@DerekDavis213]

@@bobdol69 Who says that Z690 Pro motherboard from MSI is unstable with 6400 MHz ddr5? Z790 is too expensive, and not necessary.

[@07Review]

Lol...I was conflicted with the same issue, I was about to have the ddr5, Thanks GOD. I did find out just before get them

[@robertbartelmes7623]

I ALMOST made the exact same mistake ,,, I ordered a Asus ROG Strix Z790-A MB which I assumed was a DDR5 MB ... only moments after placing the online order did I notice the title of the MB said "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A D4" and, upon checking further read that somehow meant it's a DDR4 Asus ROG Strix Z790-A & not A DDR5 "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi" MB ...I canceled the D4 order pronto - Bart

[@davidanderson5259]

The shop [it's actually a chain of excellent shops -- Memory Express in Canada] where I bought my Z790 mobo, installed the DDR5 RAM and updated the BIOS for me...a free service. But I'm sure I'll make other mistakes in my build...

[@kyledurning]

Now you will run into the bigger issue, number of pcie lanes. Im almost certain if you populate all four m.2 drives, your video card is cut down from 16x to 8x. The 13900k only has twenty (20) pcie lanes. If you are running viedo at 16x, that only leaves 4 for your m.2. and each of those need 4. For more lanes you can go to threadripper, intel extreme editions, or server chips (xeon).

[@s1n1573r-]

you also have another 20 pcie 4.0 and 8 3.0 lanes on the chipset which will be more than enough, even if all m.2 slots are populated.

[@kyledurning]

@@s1n1573r- Agreed. I was referring to full speed lanes. All lanes through the chipset are slowed.

[@s1n1573r-]

True if we're talking about some heavy read write operations but for gaming and such the difference will not be noticeable we're talking an added latency of like

[@kyledurning]

@@s1n1573r- i guess i just miss the days of extreme edition that had 36 vs 20.

[@s1n1573r-]

@@kyledurning Intel have apparently got some hedt chips upcoming so you may see them again in the not too distant future :)

[@nuclearpcs2139]

the aorus master 690 for $299 looks like the absolute best choice right now cause it was 469. strong vrm, usb flasheable, 10gb lan, amazing ess sabre audio.

[@YouOnlyLiveOnce...]

and highest RMA % due to it being a Gigabyte...

[@timothygibney159]

@@YouOnlyLiveOnce... Can confirm with the z390 version of that board. I am on my third one

[@briangrant9942]

gotten a MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI for 285.00 but got it used like new

[@MRrealmadridRaul]

Well, I assume it’s the reputation you’re going off of rather then knowing that particular Aorus master has a high RMA %. I just got the board super cheap so hopefully it’s not bad

[@YouOnlyLiveOnce...]

@@MRrealmadridRaul 9 years as pc technician/sales manager - gigabyte has the highest RMA in general

[@MickeyFKNMouse]

As soon as I saw the D4 on the box I knew. I almost had the same problem when buying my new rig. I think using D4 to say it’s a DDR4 board is silly and as you found out easy mistake to make. Luckily for me I read the spec sheets on boards. It’s a silly naming system and should not carry the z790 or z690 naming for both ddr4 and ddr5.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yup, daft naming

[@WaterCrane]

Hey, don't feel bad The Provoked Prawn - I bought a motherboard that didn't work for the spare CPU I had, even though it fit perfectly into the socket. I was confused as to why it turned on but didn't go through any kind of power cycle until I went to a dedicated PC building shop and he outright said I had the wrong motherboard. Thankfully the guy in charge had a spare that was correct and I paid for the extra components and assembly. I later managed to get £50 from selling the incorrect motherboard second-hand.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

oof

[@VontaiTV]

well....snice it's e waste now, you can just dump it at my house and ill dispose of this non-useable system no cost to you my friend. Glad i'm here

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

🤣

[@VontaiTV]

@@TheProvokedPrawn XD it was worth a shot :)

[@K2pwnz0r]

One of the best features of the new gen intel chips is that they’re compatible with DDR4. DDR5 is still extremely expensive and arguably will be under-utilized by the average person. I doubt this is a mistake someone will casually make 😂😂

[@janithcooray5546]

true, i think the fact that this is a D4 mobo is one of its key selling points. D5 is extremely expensive. also, some uses cases barely even benefit from D5 that its not worth paying for. its beyond expensive

[@TylerLeyden]

its not priced bad

[@evalangley3985]

Buying 4 sticks of memory... killing your memory OC.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Video editing chews up a lot of memory but thanks

[@patricklacey4946]

Happens to the best of us, more often than I care to admit lol

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

😂

[@philmaznyk1577]

Another great vid Mr. Prawn. Keep up the great work. If I may ask, what is the case you show at 6:36 in this video. Thanks for all you do.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

It's the Corsair 5000T but with their liquid cooling kit kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGqwooB-osqdo8k

[@philmaznyk1577]

Thank you.

[@RUFU58]

I so hope that not many other people are making this mistake. Come on human race I’m counting on you here!

[@deuceislord]

Oh well, 65k followers "tech youtuber", won't spend 2 minutes to read tech specs before shelling out £350 for a mid-range motherboard. Then he just scratching head and swaps it to a £800 top shelf one. Probably the white colour was all the concept. Hillarious...

[@900ug]

​@@deuceislorddude he literally got sent the board y'all are acting like immature babies it's not that fuckin serious

[@deuceislord]

@@900ug doctors can help with your minority complex issues matey

[@Arhey]

It is clearly marked, since it is addition "D4" at the end for DDR4. Sadly they didnt release Rog Strix Gaming A with DDR5 as Z790 only Z690 is available with DDR5.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

That isn't "clear"

[@keithcorbalis5446]

To be clear, they have since released a DDR5 Z970-A, for those troubleshooting like me and confused since it clearly indicates on my box DDR5

[@jlb8696]

I'm thinking before add that problem!? I buy "Asus maximus code" no matter what kind of ram you will put on the motor board accepte all of them beautiful thank you Asus💯

[@beninua]

This is because you use Z790-A. The Z790-F takes DDR5 so that's a very easy switch!

[@jielibai2912]

It drives me crazy I haven't been able to find the pricing for this specific board anywhere. In USD that is.

[@yoltsbp]

i think msrp is 389.99 usd. its on sale on amazon for must over 300 now

[@TheLethallist]

There is 2 very similar looking Strix Z790-A Gaming Wi-Fi, D4 is for DDR4, and without "D4" in the name is for DDR5. It's so confusing. And extremely annoying when u trying to google the DDR5 version, cuz most search results will be for D4. Asus definitely should do something with their motherboards naming...

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Apparently with this iteration there's less focus for DDR5 from them as they think people won't want to spend mucho money on RAM but also DDR5 is still a bit unreliable compared with DDR4. Maybe that'll change next time.

[@TheLethallist]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Well, I'm here cuz i've search for any info about Z790-A DDR5 version. Gonna buy it next week or even tomorrow and DDR5 kit (Trident Z5 RGB 64Gb 6000Mhz CL30 F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5RK)

[@funkybuddhaInit]

You shouldn't pull the protective film off your case while the pc is turned on. Static can build up and kill the components. It's rare but possible.

[@dazeen9591]

very useful info

[@certainsomeone64]

lol

[@PorterB]

There actually are videos where people have done this lol.

[@nextcrusader5758]

Thanks now I know why mine isn’t lining up 😢

[@microponics2695]

I screwed up the same way with the Asus z790m D4 it only takes DDR4. No big deal the DDR5 was $100 more.

[@crf5998]

They now sell a ddr5 capable version up to 128 ram

[@kp-td1ky]

Great content, I am currently in the process of building a new PC. I bought an Asus ROG Strix Z690 DDR4 (on a good price), and I am planning to buy an intel 13900k with a DDR4 Corsair Vengeance, which I will be available in a couple of days. I hope that there will be no issue with the LGA1700 I currently have, since the processor is 13Gen and my motherboard 12Gen. Intel said its compatible, but we will see.

[@doofesnator4913]

What you mean we will see? Of course it will work, just update bios

[@doofesnator4913]

@@gex581990 😑

[@kp-td1ky]

@@gex581990Thanks, I really appreciate the advice. I bought the board a month before knowing that 13900k were released. I'd better buy a 12900k instead and save some money.

[@doofesnator4913]

@@kp-td1ky don’t trust him 🤦‍♀️. The mobos are good enough. We have 2 8 pins to pull 600w. Idk what the hell he’s waffling about

[@doofesnator4913]

@@gex581990 here we go again with the waffling

[@GeekyStuff]

Ahhhhhhh bummer man!! DDR4! I am getting the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO DDR5 next week to replace my Z690 Formula motherboard and putting the 13900k into it. I already have DDR5 to put in.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Nice. Hope the Maximus has less problems this time!

[@GeekyStuff]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Yea I am hoping for better XMP to support 6400mhz DDR5 RAM LOL

[@harmonbrentdm]

That's because Asus put D4 which stands for DDR4. D5 is DDR5

[@Xeridae]

It's funny. I made the same mistake today before I saw this video. DDR4 has been around so long now that I usually don't have to think about this.

[@birdsoup777]

I bought Gigabyte Aours Z790 for DD5 prices dropped to use with my 12900k. Gskill ddr 6400 would not work at xmp profile, tired it in a z690 msi meg unify, latest bios and xmp worked. By the time the bios for all z790 are perfected 14th gen will be out.

[@skyman1883]

That duel channel or quad channel?

[@SpregioCheeks]

Dude, same. Was not Aware of d4 and d5 boards. Microcenter guy blew my mind and I was like, wait, then why are they boasting d4 and d5 compatible when board manufacture are only doing what ryzen is up to. And he goes, "I know right!" Lol. Well, so I got ddr5 now...

[@Theunknownman52]

I found out I made the same mistake as you did. After I bought it 🤣😂

[@ljungan96]

I specifically bought this motherboard with ddr4 ram in mind. I've got 64 gigs of ddr4 on my old motherboard and I didn't want to buy new ram as well as CPU and motherboard. Don't believe fps in games will be that significantly higher. Might be stupid idk. My CPU was an i7 7700k and needed an upgrade since it highly bottlenecks my gpu.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Sensible money saving plan tbh

[@garyc5245]

Yep...did this 2 weeks ago; not realizing it was still possible a z790 could still use DDR4. I was to focused on the price, thinking "this is a great deal!" Ha

[@aylabasaran3803]

Can you put a Intel i9 12900K CPU into this Asus Rog Strix Z790-A Mainboard?

[@Noone-iy7rk]

You are so confused, you even wrote 590 in the title. Take a break from these jobs.

[@istudyokonsepto]

I thought he really made a mistake installing a 13900k to a z590 board based on the title😂

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yeah that was just a numpty moment. 🤣 Twice.

[@Besotted85]

Aint you a team spirit. Tells him to quit. Your the friend No one needs...

[@graxx2805]

Agreed, you are a minority telling him what to do. It's fine to give him advice on a polite manner, but forcing decisions is something for your own life and not that of others.

[@itzyaboy_cc]

You dont even got videos shouldnt be talking about other peoples videos

[@jackgreen5960]

What motherboard do people recommend to pair with the i9 13900K? The confusing part is they are many z790 motherboards and the prices are all over the map. Any advice would truly be appreciated. I am also looking for DDR5 compatibility

[@pmarciano1717]

Same question :)

[@jackgreen5960]

@@pmarciano1717 If you make a decision from the motherboard please PM me and let me know.

[@josephgrobler2332]

A great Z790 motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-Z790-GAMING-X-AX Motherboard. Its priced very well, looks great and will give you support for DDR5, 2.5gig network port, wifi and Bluetooth. It goes for around $300. Most of the pricier boards just have more m2 slots, 10gig network port, and have rgb. You don't need a $1k motherboard. But yeah, it all depends on what you need and you're doing.

[@pmarciano1717]

@@jackgreen5960 i boght the z790- a Gaming ddr5

[@ChasseurTueur]

wow, can you imagine being so rich, you can buy Ram you dont need, nor cannot use, must be amazing :)

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Or alternatively, you work hard and get sent things to use in content and you reuse them with other parts to try to be efficient but make mistakes... I'm not rich.

[@p0ggles]

I didn't realize some Z790 MoBo's ONLY work with DDR4. I thought Z790's from Intel MoBo's work with both DDR4 and DDR5.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Some are DDR4 only, some are DDR5 only. You have to watch out.

[@Christopher_S]

I don't understand why there is so much hate with this. Obviously it was a silly mistake, as mentioned in the title. This is a very valid issue to make a video for. Assumptions can hit anyone of us, and to shine a light on this issue here will educate people on things to watch for. I say this is a great video to make.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks, glad someone understood what I was trying to do. Wasn't expecting so much negativity but such is life on the internet.

[@Christopher_S]

@@TheProvokedPrawn In my opinion, the negativity is so counter-intuitive. With negativity people are less likely to create educational videos again. Honestly, for the past 15 years I've worked in the computer build/repair field, and I've seen so many people caught out by assumptions like this. Recently I was caught out with a wireless mouse. The marketing all shows that it's got a USB-A charging wire but the mouse itself is type C. The wireless dongle was mentioned but not it's connector. I assumed it would be as the wire, and it would be a type A. It wasn't. It was a type C, and my computer doesn't have a type C port on it. I had to spend another £10 buying a type A to C adapter to get my wireless mouse wireless. Silly mistakes from assumptions hit us all at one point. It's great when someone can help us avoid them. Again, I say thank you and bravo for making it.

[@MrVidification]

There seems little difference over the ddr4 and 5 versions of this board. The ram mix up extends to profiles, some stores don't show clearly if the ram offered is for intel or amd

[@KiTTVII]

ram isn’t specific to intel or amd it’s just marketing

[@MrVidification]

@@KiTTVII some forums suggested that intel profiled ddr5 ram (on an amd mboard) had less issues than the other way around for some reason, although I suspect they may have been mixing that up with motherboard compatibility

[@hadferseveride9820]

The moment you said "Why i am an idiot" i read the motherboards name through the plastic... WIFI D4 ohhh noooo

[@shineychrome43]

My biggest problem was I bought a 13th gen but the motherboard outta the box only supported 12th gen and needed a bios. Problem was I didn’t have a 12th gen anywhere and the MB did not have flash bios on it… so I had to go out and buy a cheap 12th gen, install it, update the bios and then pop it out and put the 13th in. Thankfully I got it off Amazon for 100$ and I was able to return it that same day for my money back.

[@computers2max]

Wow as a system builder I assumed also the NEW Z790 would only be DDR5 but yes on the site Asus there it is ddr4. WOW!!! Now to goto the shops and get a fire extinguisher for the rtx4090 cable i am using

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

The Corsair 12vhpwr adapter seems like a good solution

[@ItsKhazzz]

I just picked up this motherboard in a z690-a along with a 13900k but I’m having an issue where I’m not getting a post. The motherboard light says it’s a DRAM issue but I’m reusing the same DRAM (gskill trident z 4000mhz) I had with my other setup. I confirmed that these DDR speeds are supported as well as reinstalled the ram in my other setup and it works with no issues. I went ahead and ordered another set of Ram to see if that it acutely the issue but won’t know for a couple more days

[@GoldenEagle0007]

update?

[@Tatusiek_1]

update?

[@CactusWithAbz]

Did anyone else have an issue with fitting your gpu into this board ?

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

You should of just picked up some DDR5 ram. My friend. Good luck with your build tho.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

DDR4 you mean, right?

[@kai9860]

I literally made this exact mistake with the exact same board (recommended by microcenter). Incredibly frustrating.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Ooof. Sorry to hear it. That's not cool on Microcenter

[@wollibaumfaller3233]

DDR4 is perfect for me i bought 128GB DDR4 (4x32GB) a few weeks ago and my old bord cant handle so much Ram so i use this Board with an New CPU (DRR5 cost more than double than DDR4)

[@Mr_Web]

I had it the other way around. I upgraded from an AMD Ryzen 9 to an Intel i9 13900KF. I had 64Gb of DDR4 and the new motherboard only accepted DDR. Anyways, I had to order 64Gb of DDR5 after all. Lesson learned 😂

[@akcivan]

im gonna buy it for my 4x16 DDR4 3600mhz rams :D i specially doesntwant to change my ram setup

[@alantorrance6153]

Thanks for the advice to watch the RAM generation with the I9 boards. About 2 years ago I got a an !9 that takes that earlier DDR4 RAM, and as I am considering increasing my RAM quantity, I shall have to be careful in that respect. Who knows? I may have just gone ahead and got the wrong type, but the MB manual is quite easy to read concerning RAM type and quantity. Goes up to 128Gb of 32GB single DIMM capacity (4 sticks) in either ECC un-buffered DIMM or non-ECC units. Probably best for me to get the same type as is there now. I have two sticks giving me 32Gb, and so far that is plenty, but I could install another two if necessary without replacing the first two, and without running into compatibility problems, to give 64Gb. I suppose I could, instead of 2 sticks of 16Gb, add 2 of 32Gb, giving me 96Gb total.. I would need to take especial care regarding timing.

[@ruokeren1919]

You COULD run into many issues if your set of ram isn't a 4 piece kit. They are guaranteed to be fine, but just pairing another 2 even of the same, could still see you with BSOD due to that..

[@Anon-cv7ru]

I saw the D4 on the motherboard and then the Kingston DDR5 RAM... 😅

[@aprilmeowmeow]

you made me double check what mobo I just bought 😂

[@davefellows]

That's a bit sad they only sent you a DDR4 MB.

[@patriciozazzini3182]

so this mother does not accept ddr5?

[@nrdicsurvive510]

is the asus rog strix z790-a compatible with the i9 13900k???? Pls help

[@LahoriGamerYT007]

Yes

[@danmar007]

I wonder what the stupid mistake to smart mistake ratio is during our lifetime. 🙂

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

im actually surprised they made ddr4 Z790s.

[@dakrawnik4208]

First, LOL. ;) Second, the large empty area above the mobo is a dealbreaker for me. Those rubber grommets are gross too.

[@blasta444]

what Z790 DDR5 motherboard should i use for 13900k

[@thealien_ali3382]

Strix

[@blasta444]

@@thealien_ali3382 STRIX E ?

[@ryanjones1938]

I have a spare ddr5 board.. it's a z790 asus hero.. I had to upgrade it because it was faulty, so I swapped it for a gigabyte board because that's all they had... I hated the board, I think gigabyte is crap, but asus hasn't been the best lately but it's what I know. So I got the newer z790 v2

[@mr.daddynormal3255]

You should also say that you need a BIOS update or Flash for Z690 combined with 13th gen motherboards

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

But this is a Z790 board?

[@mr.daddynormal3255]

@@TheProvokedPrawn oh my bad, i misread it then. I just bought the same but Z690 that's why 😅 disregard my comment, good job explaining some possible issues! 🤗

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@mr.daddynormal3255 no worries 🤣

[@broadh2o980]

Haha I double checked the motherboard purchase like 3 times to make sure I was actually buying the DDR5 version

[@lucasdigital]

Whooo... i've just picked up a Z790-F with a 13th Gen CPU. This motherboard looks very handsome. I'm beginning to wish I'd gone for the glass panel now but I've always thought them a bit "boy racer-ish".

[@cesarrobledo2583]

Will I be okay with a Z690 with a 13600k?

[@lucasdigital]

@@cesarrobledo2583 Should be golden. Note: Z790-F is the DDR5-compatible board.

[@Tatusiek_1]

@@lucasdigital i was thinking about getting that one, but it is pricey, what ram did u get for it?

[@lucasdigital]

@@Tatusiek_1 It's running with 2x32GB Corsair DDR5 Vengeance Black, PC5-44800 (5600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 40, XMP 3.0, 1.25V. It wasn't something I did any homework on. I can still hear the squeal of my piggy bank for the cost of the 4090. Usually my machines have a 3-year cycle. This one may need to running for 5.

[@Tatusiek_1]

@@lucasdigital i’m assuming a z790-e and up isn’t really worth it. Also I think CL36 would have been a better choice. I could only rly get a 3080 so i might be a bit cpu heavy.

[@RivalGrimReaper]

Second I saw the DDR4 ram, I knew what you had done. 🤦‍♂️ I am extremely OCD, so I check and triple check everything, so I had realised this, I have decent ddr4 ram, and so wanted this particular mobo. You have also bought the wrong mobo for your cooler it appears in your lian li, as you have your digital readout on the side.

[@moonlightsoldier8443]

That cpu can handle both ddr4 and ddr5 ram so maybe plug it and see worst case fails to post abd I only seen you unclip the top side

[@ultrademigod]

DDR4 is now a dead RAM generation, so why would they even make a DDR4 mobo with a 13th gen Intel CPU? If you can afford $600+ for the mobo and CPU, surely spending an extra 200 on DDR5 is not a deal breaker.

[@christopherfarrell-artist3557]

So you didn't check the recommended ram on the Asus website....? I am currently researching a new build for my Unreal 5 set up, i7 13700 and Asus z790 and matching the ram serial numbers is the first thing I do.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Good job. If I was buying naturally I'd research but I didn't buy it and made assumptions so this was for others who might have done the same and not realised. Sharing is caring. Calling other people stupid for their errors is not. It's a wise man that learns from other people's mistakes

[@Livingreciever]

I did the same thing but the other way round, i had DDR5 but needed ddr4 XD

[@electroelysium2281]

That's some good news in a way though, as DDR4 are still better than DDR5 and will be for quite some time still. Even when the DDR5 beats the DDR4, it does it with less than 5% performance in general... For a price that is like 40% higher... I'll get this motherboard with the i9 13900kf and new RAM directly after I can get my hands on a 4090... None are EVER available online or in store in my area... :( Just waiting for that to pull the trigger on the whole build ! My 2080ti and i9 9900k are starting to get old AF.

[@Alucard-gt1zf]

Why get the kf? You're losing out on lots of debugging and diagnosing capability just to save like 20 quid

[@electroelysium2281]

@@Alucard-gt1zf Don't care about integrated graphics and if I even have bugs with my GPU, I have like 7 old GPUs sitting at home... I can just swap them to troubleshoot.

[@xXxAmadeuzxXx]

You could've said that from the beginning. Trying to make your videos longer. Wtr

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

There was no malicious intent. I was making content for my audience, a behind the scenes look at what I was doing. Not trying to get longer view times, that's just cynical assumption...

[@pepjacklent]

I got this for my 13900k but it’s the D5 version. Picked up 32GB of 6400mhz for only $250

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Nice

[@pepjacklent]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I had a 10900k and didn’t realize how much it is holding my 4090 back. Basically running a 3080 lol

[@Akrymir]

Only the D4 version is DDR4, the regular version is DDR5

[@twistwist777]

I knew what was the problem before you mentioned it, I saw a video about this issue... LOL

[@behnam4582]

hi thanks for the video! =) what is that case you got there? Looking into similar thing if rtx 4090 can fit in it. so far the only thing i could find is Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic

[@SpongeGarb34]

Not sure why this is such a big prob.. Just go and buy some ddr4 ram.. It’s not expensive