Do's and Don'ts of hosting MAPs

[@Owl_spark]

*furiously takes down notes*

[@tacomuncherkevin]

XD

[@pheonity]

COUGH

[@ccmmacaroon2696]

Same

[@fluddie6832]

Lets compare notes

[@Owl_spark]

@@fluddie6832 yes

[@crystalcolors2229]

Another good thing to consider when hosting maps is considering what TYPE of map you're hosting. If you don't have that big of a following, hosting PMV maps is most likely better because chances are you'll find more talented artists than animators, I've accepted many people into my PMV maps and they did amazing, but I wouldn't let those people join my animation maps just yet. My point is PMV maps are superior because every animator can draw but not every artist can animate

[@brownie909]

*sees this idea as I plan a map while watching this vid* HMMMMMMMMMM

[@quincedii9635]

Brownie I actually have dozens of map ideas lmao

[@brownie909]

Quincedii Aesthetic I have 2 map ideas I’m not telling cuz no stealing ):)

[@quincedii9635]

Brownie I don’t really mind people stealing my ideas as long as they credit me in the map.

[@brownie909]

Quincedii Aesthetic here are my ideas: Darkside - Violetpaw, Needletail, and the rest of The Kin Home : Cloudtail and Brightheart Whoever uses these must credit

[@tunaramen]

North: Don't host too many MAPs at once, especially if you've never completed any. Me: (regretfully looks at my 3 incomplete MAPs)

[@mcytfan1415]

I've never related to a comment more in my life. It doesn't help that im working on a fourth call right now aodbwjd d

[@cinderbl0ckz617]

Oof i have a super good idea for a map but these comments are making me sad lel

[@iceshine4413]

you should do next " how to do pmvs " i would love to see this!

[@ikimono7382]

Step 1: do a pmv.

[@ikimono7382]

@nooM Moon lol

[@WillowtheRainFawn]

Step 1: come across song and let your brain create a PMV idea and script as it plays Step 2: begin art and editing Step 3: lose steam and burn out Step 4: forget about the PMV Step 5: come across the unfinished PMV in your files Step 6: start back up Step 7: possibly finish it XD jk around here- though a "How to not burn out" would be a good for another how to video ^^

[@dracosolil215]

@@WillowtheRainFawn So true-

[@cres1]

Hey Northflower... can we have dos and don’ts of.... watching a map xD

[@Northflowo]

Sure -Check out my huge warriors maps collection kzbin.info/aero/PLgRASh8hCGlQpGlUoBCMtOoFwpJBOyWVq -Don't comment rude things unless you want to be vaporized, MAP hosts are protective of the participants

[@astrosurge70]

@@cres1 hey cresmiint are you here trying to host a WoF MAP? 'Cause I am lol

[@cres1]

Yeah :P

[@KrispyKitty66]

cresmiint I feel like I know you hmm

[@-touya_todoroki]

Do: watch carefully and enjoy the map Don't play games while "watching" a map Do look at atleast one animater Don't say art sucks on a certain part Dose this awnser you? OwO

[@leafyyay6960]

Oh god, ive dealt with almost all of these problems and it just ugh My advice: if you're unsure of a deadline to pick, usually id say a month, but if it's a strict deadline such as a holiday map, you need to release it early and have a deadline earlier from the day its due. Ive seen so many holdiay maps get crushed like this and its kind of saddening. If it has a strict deadline, be prepared to kick more people. Usually they will realise they dont have time or an event will come up so they have to drop. Unless you have many backups, be prepared to take a few parts yourself. That's really my advice. This goes more for small animators who wouldnt have a large following and probably don't have many people joining their maps too often. Hope this helps!

[@LmaoMeowz]

OR you can just start the MAP early in the year Like start your Christmas MAP in April or something

[@bewitchmental]

Prepare to be frustrated.. *Starts smacking head against table*

[@cupidspaws9028]

maybe you should do do's and dont's of making parts!!!

[@chaos9608]

Dove's Wing she did

[@enchantedgalaxyanimation8840]

Or maybe editing a map and putting your parts together and adding the music in edits and all that mess 🥵🤔

[@Finchiii]

Ooooh I kicked someone out of my newest completed map, and they said I was a waste of their time, and I was being a huge b**ch. Only cause I asked for a wip about 6 times and they said ooohhh I’m almost done I’ll send one later. News flash they never did ;-;

[@MistyRat]

What editing programs do you use for maps? I have good ideas but I dont know what editing program to use

[@Finchiii]

Misty Rat I use Cute cut pro, Kine master, and Video shop, and sometimes IMovie

[@Bridgersinredorgray]

How about: Do's and Don'ts when editing a MAP?

[@enchantedgalaxyanimation8840]

YES

[@expertfrenchtoast3480]

Y3S

[@laststorm1279]

Y4S

[@dragon2eggsout]

Y E S

[@oli7237]

Y Æ S

[@Ashuribbon]

I feel like this should be added to the don'ts. Again, I feel like it might fall into the "Don't advertise in the comment section" category, but I feel it needs to be said: *Don't go begging of popular artists to join your MAP, or better yet, don't threaten people to join your MAP.* Time and again, I've seen people act entitled and go to the most popular animator's they know of to join, and go as far as spamming their Twitter, their Instagram, even their own Tumblr, for crying out loud. If you really want them to join your MAP, then either be patient and let time do what it does or commission them. *Also, ask permission to use other people's designs if you're planning to use them for your MAP.* Trust me, I had one person ask me to join their Warriors MAP that was using a design made by another popular artist without their consent. I also remembered joining an MAP where it was revealed the host didn't ask permission to use their Warrior Cats designs and had to delete the server and went into hiding. I don't know where they are now, but all I know is that it should be a good example on how not to host an MAP.

[@extrapathos]

Good points, why did no one else reply for a year?? XD

[@inactive4444]

I also have something that should be on the list; Try not to take extremely long to reply to your participants. It can be frustrating for the participants and yourself.

[@chickennuggetpaw]

Here’s my tip (if anyone is still watching this 3 year old video LOL) for if you have a MAP idea and really wanna do it, but you know it’s too much work for you. Make a fake map part for the song! You can pick whatever part of the song you like, and make a couple seconds long animation to it with your characters singing along or whatever you want! It can be super fun, and it’s not weird or anything, because I’ve see people do it before. Bonus: if your fake map part gets super popular by some stretch and you decide you’re up to it later, you can make the map real and even use your “fake part” in the end product. If it gets popular enough, maybe someone will be down to co-host your map! If you never end up wanting the make the map, or worse, lose interest in the idea after making your fake part, that’s great, because it means you didn’t start a whole project with a ton of other people before realizing you’re bored of the idea and scrapping it lolll

[@Oldlugia]

Don't: PLEASE. PLEASE don't cancel the map and not tell the participants.

[@broadwaybandito2480]

“I didn’t expect people to actually like to hear me talk!”

[@Clooover]

The one big dont that I have is DONT MAKE THE DESIGNS TOO COMPLEX. So many maps have just taken images off of google because its good art, without taking into account how many floating stripes or specific patches they have. It's HARD to animate or even draw that many specific patterns.

[@KoskotOwl]

Oh this is so good advice. Some of the tips i allready do. Like when you remind them half way throw and checking before you start a map. But its still really nice to know all this stuff!

[@enchantedgalaxyanimation8840]

Can you do a video about editing, putting parts together, editing the song, how to put the song in your video instead of recording it?

[@UUEBWISJSVUSSNIFFUEUE]

And for putting parts together: go on the video, press "share" and "copy link". Now you go to Chrome(or whatever app U use) and put it in"MP4 converter". Go on the website, put your link in and download it. Do that with every part. When every part is downloaded, go to your editing part and put them together! :)

[@anewaspi1874]

a m a z i n g accent

[@SearTheo]

You are a map hosting god, as a person who's been in your maps before you definitely have a skill for it. Thanks for the pointers!

[@zedclouds_]

Thank you so much for this! I’m starting to figure out what I want to do when I can finally get this channel running. I believe I’m going to start by entering thumbnail contests as example for PMV MAPS for art, then make some animation examples, and then maybe join a MAP, or even one of yours! These are really helping me plan out my animation career. Thank you once again, Northflower, for making one of these.

[@ash_2348]

If you ever host a map you could expect me to be one of the participants

[@Guidingsonar]

I remember joining an anything map. They where so happy with it (it was a low teir one, for new comers) It really did make me happy. It is good to allow newer people to join so they can also get experience, and see if it is for them. I am not too found of joining maps but it still was fun.

[@snoutts]

me, knowing i will never enter or host a map: interesting

[@xxechofangxx]

Thats me right now

[@reiika]

I have a question! How do you split songs into even parts? (Like if a map has 20 parts, how did you figure out how to split the song?) Also, do you have any tips on editing parts together?

[@theriizino]

_reiika_ maybe each line is a part? Or like every 5/10 seconds is a part.

[@hannahtfdthbkktffrd]

I didn’t prepare to be frustrated and now I feel bad for turning people down. Again thank you

[@canislatranz5263]

You should do a video on character design (whether its for maps or just individual advice)! Tennelle kind of touched this subject a bit but I'm curious what else you can add to it, love these advice videos!

[@Cymopolia]

Why is frustration a prominente part in every part of animation?

[@Northflowo]

YES

[@patchyforever5493]

Indeed

[@stells8518]

Agreed

[@oasis7195]

In all my MAPs I’ve had 2-4 people just randomly start ghosting me and it’s SO ANNOYING. Especially since literally nobody wants to join my MAPs :(

[@CrystalDoggoIsMissing]

ughhh that’s a mood

[@oasis7195]

Crystal Doggo 😂

[@soup6925]

What is a map

[@oasis7195]

@@soup6925 multi-animator project, a ton of animators get together and make an animated music video basically

[@soup6925]

Cool

[@quit185]

North: Don’t host too many MAPs at once- My sister: *Casually hosts 10 MAPs

[@albinoscorpio4238]

This is hella late but one thing I hate is when the text for parts has a transition. Like for example 'part 1' fading into 'part 2.' It makes it really difficult to guess the correct time and length of parts.

[@Tersina]

Also late, but same! Just creates more work for the hosts and participants.

[@skeletoncatyt825]

Man it is really annoying how everytime I host a map someone or others don't read the rules so it's good you give advice for some people

[@XxxYoursTrulyxxX]

Once, I joined a map. It was a WoF Peril Demons map on Scratch. I did my part, then months later, went back and watched the MAP. I didn't see my part and got upset. Reasonably. I messaged the host, and apparently, they didn't realize my part was Part 6 so it was in a different place. Oops, no one's bad.

[@pheonity]

*Whoa* Me: Whoa. Family: WHoa? State: WHOa! World: WHOA!!!!!!!! (ThAt'S sOmE mOnEy)

[@swirlycat5554]

*epicly watches this while working on a MAP part*

[@xpebblestarx7674]

THANK YOU SO MUCH NORTHFLOWER!!! I’m taking your advice and hosting a map!!!

[@SavageKiku]

This is interesting to know, since I myself want to try something like this in the near future. I do have one question about it though: Any good tips or programs to use for editing a MAP?

[@Northflowo]

Basically any program should suffice for putting the parts together and watermarking them, I used Windows Movie Maker at first... If you want something a little fancier then you'll probably either have to get creative or buy one of those more expensive programs (I currently use Movie Studio Platinum 13 and it's the only one I have any experience with really)

[@emmal9768]

kiitos tästä videosta like I have a MAP idea that's autumn-themed, but no one's gonna join because no one knows that I exist lol

[@enchantedgalaxyanimation8840]

bye lol I do now

[@balanthemaestro845]

On some other social platforms such as Amino, Twitter, etc. , you can announce you're hosting a map and that can also get some participants!

[@MangoMagica]

@Inkdapple- thanks for the tip! I’m hosting my own reanimated project so I wanted to know how to get my name out there

[@cjartzy]

I'd join

[@Liver_chestnut]

It’s nice watching stuff from a year or more because most of the time ask the parts are done

[@halolimnic]

YEAH I WAS WAITING.. WE FINALLY GOT IT YALL! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS OMG

[@adeleyinfeifei]

Once this person joined my MAP and made some terrible crap, so i told nicely to maybe fix bits of it up..... I also editted it a bit to show them where I wanted them to fix up..... They started being extremely mad and saying that their part was too good for my standards and that they were gonna report me to the scratch team for being unfair. O. o

[@kitunes_0]

Thanks for the advice northflower! Im currently working on making a MAP and this helps me to maybe get better with MAP's! :3

[@raintable]

We're both working on da map LuNa

[@raintable]

Oh wait you're talking about a different map owowowoowow

[@raintable]

Oh ho ho

[@whxss_she]

I’m currently hosting a map that is almost done and I plan on hosting another map soon! This video really helped me get to know what I should do next time. Thanks 😁

[@gavvronk9355]

That's really helpful, thank you!! Do you have idea how or where I can advertise my map? I tried many ways but it lost attention quickly I worked hard on this map call but there are still some open parts, that I really want to fill I would be happy to see your response!

[@Northflowo]

Unfortunately I don't, I don't think I've ever advertised my MAP (or I can't remember)

[@Northflowo]

Although I do think I once saw like a twitter account that was posting about new open maps or something, I never stayed for long enough to figure out how it worked though

[@gavvronk9355]

@@Northflowo Oh, alright Thanks anyway!

[@akainenkoira]

HI NORTHFLOWER :D 💖

[@samglover4923]

Fucking Rainflower s t o p

[@saltywafflez5133]

Icy Fire Don’t you hate those comments?

[@akainenkoira]

@@samglover4923 I'm just polite

[@samglover4923]

Sir Penguin yes, but this guy responded to my comment with it so I’m getting back 😗

[@saltywafflez5133]

Icy Fire Wut?

[@lightningqueen1145]

It's so hard to find guides to MAP hosting- Any tips for actually advertising a map? I have a call up but only 2 people have asked for parts, and I DO NOT want the idea to go down the drain. Honestly I'd be fine with someone rehosting it at this point if only some people would JOIN.

[@gyattaway]

Thanks for the tips. It’s really useful 😄

[@NooxWasHere]

Thank you for the tips for the map! This will be really handy for me cuz i'm planing to host a map when i reach a lot of subscribers! (Also sorry for my terrible english-)

[@positivelypanic]

I'm planning to host a MAP in a couple months myself. The only thing I'm missing is followers _-_ -I'll get there soon enough- Also I swear you are a MAP hosting god. I look up to you and I'm so happy that you shared this with us!^^

[@tomhawl]

I started hosting an Ashfur MAP A while ago, and I'm still in the process of making the MAP call, but I got the script and designs down

[@FoxSketch6543]

This is some good advice since, I wanted to host one sometime! (BTW, I love your art! XD)

[@aeris1905]

not sure if I commented when I first saw the video but *oh well* I agree with the "prepare to be frustrated" one, when I hosted my first successful map, it didn't take long to get my first participant. after they joined, things ran smooth af with participants finishing parts left and right- *until the discord server died.* I lost motivation and dropped out of MY OWN MAP, then soon a friend dropped out. Then someone cut contact and left the server for no reason. I've pinged the backups several times and, as nobody said anything, I forgot about the map for a while

[@hannahtfdthbkktffrd]

Thank you. As a host, THANK YOU.

[@pigeonincognito]

Ooh amazing! Taking notes down xD. Could you do a video on the Dos and DONTS of scriptwriting and designing?

[@Kemii]

I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY LAST COMMENT WENT BUT- THAT'S ME AT THE START!1 WOOOOOO

[@TiaDrawZ]

I actually really enjoy your commentary videos! Keep them coming ^^

[@axolotleclipse945]

Yes, its true ppl get the same ideas all the time, I had this idea for a long time about an ashfur Dynasty MAP I searched it up just in case and found one, Ill make sure to give them some credit if I ever do the Ashfur MAP

[@bl00d_r1ver]

This helps a lot! I'm soon gonna be hosting a evil Ivypool au map.

[@darkshade7254]

Now i know what to do and not Thank you North

[@BlueberryBagelKing]

I knew that your channel name used to be "Northflower" I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY. That one little letter..

[@bluestreakblazes]

I just had to tell someone participating in my MAP to redo their part because they didn’t follow the script at ALL TwT

[@parker219]

5:04 wow, I can’t believe you flexed on me, I’m sad now

[@froya_ao]

Very helpful!! Thank you so much for making a second part!! I'll be sure to take most of this into consideration if every hosting! 💕💕

[@invaderjulius1359]

Hosting MAPS are hard to deal with. Here are the top 3 (in my opinion) that are hard: 1. DEADLINES 2. The rules 3. Looking at others animations while checking if they have ability to do animation (when your hand hurts like hell)

[@Northflowo]

as for number 3,,, yes,,, like try doing that when you have 300 people to check hjfjhsfs iT TAKES HOURS

[@songbird6414]

Yo, I don’t have any content, so I have no following, but I’ve got an idea I need help for that I know people would HOP on because of how popular the character is and how badass the song ended up being. I’ll probably just do a PMV, but oh boy.

[@devanwilliams4244]

Alright everyone, hear me out a second. I have an amazing idea for a map, but since I have no artistic ability I want someone to do this idea: Map Song: The Room Where It Happens (From Alexander Hamilton) Characters- Arron Burr: TigerClaw Alexander Hamilton: Fireheart Thomas Jefferson: Bluestar or Tallstar James Maddison: Nightstar Info: I’m basically thinking this map should be about Tigerclaw’s treachery and just show how bad he wanted to be with the other leaders and just- yeah. (BTW FOR ANYONE WHO USES THIS IDEA, PLEASE CREDIT ME OR WARN ME BEFORE CALLING IT) Thank you

[@nepptunii]

Thank you for this! I’m hosting my second ever map and this def helps

[@Moontail0302]

Ive got one question: how do you get the music for your maps? I would love to do some pmvs and i have some music ideas i really like but i dont know how to get the music if that makes sense? Like where do you get the recording of the music.. ?

[@Liam_2416]

I know a rule of hosting maps is to not be sad over kicking something out of a map, I'm really caring and kind so when I do I ask for the ones that cant get there parts done if they want to be a backup incase they want the part back if it isnt taken. I do it on all of my maps ((aka the only map I hosted QwQ))

[@kpcroxful]

I love these videos of yours, they're really helpful!

[@FIRECLAWZyt]

Thanks so much!!!! I have a MAP with 3 slots left thanks to you, and a lot are done!

[@user-no6qz8bc5d]

Dang both parts of these are really really helpful I’ve always wanted to host or join a map one day so these are very good notes to take. ((I know I’m late by a year xD but I’ll keep these in mind!))

[@HelloNessa94]

Another pet peeve of mines when I join maps that the host GHOSTS the map completely and doesn't give any indication to finish it at all. Joined at least 4 maps since long ago and still never done til this day but at least a few others I joined finished theirs. :/

[@PurpleIris240]

I love your voice:) you also animate very well.

[@ayipppeei]

I’m planning on hosting a running with the wolves wings of fire map and this helped a lot thanks! Oh and how do I put the parts together? Is there a app I can use to make it helpful

[@iguanaperson3720]

i actually had a really good idea for a map but i have absolutely no idea how to edit one! could you maybe make a video on the best way to host a map? that'd be epic -also if no maybe you could make the map eE-

[@portedcannon5653]

I was thinking about making a warriors map about the great battle with the dark forest and the song be Hamilton:YorkTown but i didn’t know how to do it and never hosted a map before. I dont think i will be hosting this map anytime soon. But this video really cleared things up for me.

[@slinkycatdestruction1396]

Thanks, this helped a lot! I’m planning to do a warriors map in the future and this had some great tips!

[@swiftyoooo]

0:50 damn i learned this hard when this one person would not stop asking to join, even tho they didnt have discord haha

[@mingolingo4740]

Amazing vidoe Northflower! I really love those types of vidoes. Please make more!

[@featherfootproductions]

Honestly I’m a new creator and I’m hosting a map rn so this really helps me =3

[@featherfootproductions]

THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR MY MAP PLEASE DONT JOIN IF U SEE THIS COMMENT Xb

[@Chemical_Violet]

I love your voice and when I am able to join a map I'll have this in mind.

[@BritishRat573]

I was doing a part for a m.a.p, and ALOT of people wouldn't finish their parts, or just left it as a WIP, So me and some other people where doing the parts that didn't get finished. it was alot of work but we managed to get it done on time-

[@MEATSPECIMENZ]

oh this kinda helps understand why I failed to host one of my maps, I think I can do better now! thanks for the advice!

[@Lunashiiki]

How can i get more people to join my map ? Ive started hosting a map and i have about 12 parts left, im scared that the map will never be completed even though i really want it to be. Also your accent is so pretty qwq

[@SandyCat2]

I really want to start a map someday soon, thanks for making this! It really helped

[@yukiogalaxykekseundmilch8464]

I just have to say that, i do not have the intress to make a map, and im just here bc of ur voice idk it feels like i heared it before but i cant remeber QwQ

[@blossombardling]

I've hosted smol maps before on 0- not on KZbin and honestly I've never said no to anyone to join the map because 1: My art isn't very good and I feel that it'd be hypocrite to deny someone else's (even if dey dont finish because I dont either sometimes) 2: I'm not great at saying no. Not at teachers, not at people, not at friends, nto at parents- well- kind of

[@firemation9963]

Tysm for the advice! I was just gonna post my first map call and needed some advice

[@Florian_Deruko]

i have an idea for a future map if anyone wants to host one! maybe a poppyfrost map? she's so underrated. her sister and berrynose get all the attention. poppyfrost needs love. i've only seen maybe 3 videos of her. 10 for her sister and mate. she needs love,

[@chaosrat7]

Me: I should host a map one day! "Could take up to a week *or a maybe even a year!*" Me: *I'll just stick to animating solo.*

[@fallowflake2313]

Shall I abort my MAP now 😅😅😅 I am guilty for a few of the don’ts lol

[@mcytfan1415]

Just fix what you can

[@antjehirst4495]

I love your bumblestripe crush song map 🤣

[@kitkatstar9442]

I'm trying to get into animating but I'm using a PC and I can't find any animating apps that work. Does anyone recommend an app that doesn't take two hours to download and set up and involves downloading fifteen hundred other apps?

[@gamesemail8980]

Krita is what I use it's pretty simple to download and use

[@Tersina]

Adding onto that: CSP has animation features, but you'll need a video editor to throw it all together. OpenToonz is a one-in-all package from what I've seen.

[@salvadorhernandez9174]

You posted this when I was asleep

[@braver80]

*Starts spamming down notes with Owl*

[@quirkrash2982]

Do you know of a good editing software for putting the completed parts together? I have a MAP open, but I’m worried that I won’t be able to edit it myself and that I’ll have to ask someone else to Also, if you make another video like this, can you add that people should make sure they can edit the complete parts together BEFORE starting the MAP? This... is definitely something I should’ve done = =“

[@Northflowo]

I have had to ask someone else edit before because my program that I had only just learned to use decided to pull some weird stunt on me. It wasn't anything that big, you could still watch the MAP but it made half the parts have this weird fade effect,,

[@peepc1850]

another do of hosting maps: if youre accepting people into the map using comments instead of google forms or whatever, check the comment section of the map call every once in a while to make sure you dont miss any comments youtube might not have put in your notifications

[@WhoStoleMyWillToLive]

You have grown well

[@dacamryn6385]

Thank you for the addvice

[@toongirl007]

Don't mind me just taking notes! :)

[@michaelsaylorceo135]

It's gotta be hard though, but i'll try to follow these rules