Do Sample Rates And Oversampling Really Make A Difference?

On this episode of the audionerds podcast the guys talk about sample rate and the argument of if theres an audible difference. Does 192 Khz sound better than 44.1 Khz. Is oversampling in a plugin different? Is 48Khz that different from 44.1? Lets find out
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[@BrandishBeats]

😂😂 this podcast is crazy fun, I'm mixing while listening. Hey Devon bless up man I'm a fan of your tutorials from a very long time man good move with the podcast.

[@parityisuncertain8391]

bruh what...how

[@beatpax]

@@parityisuncertain8391 he not really mixing......he bullshitting on someones project cuz wtf u need a podcast to mix for?

[@Bi6chris]

Yall should show pictures of the plugins as yall mention them. Just so people can identify visually, what ur talking about

[@ShadowWorksEntertainmentLLC]

You could print each part in the sample rate you want and bring the printed parts back into a new project. Gonna have to try that and see. Thanks for the thought

[@camaradesbeatmakerz]

really crazy thank you man for this podcast

[@qlyde]

I've loved stereo imaging plugins for years, my *go to plugin* now is the Yum Audio Spread Light (free) because it sounds natural, works flawlessly, you can switch between M/S or Hass widening, and adjust the volume / panning in the plugin. It's perfect for production workflow because it's so easy and just works!

[@KINGSOFPOWERMUSICGROUP]

Yooo!! He got me with the sample rate automaton 😂😂

[@thepractitionerzs]

You guys is what I needed I didn’t even know it was

[@SEVYNTHEVILLAIN]

4:11 facts whoever mixed euphoria went CRAZY 🔥

[@noelgallard1128]

Also the fact that I been on Neoverb for pianos my favorite reverb by far yo! Can’t believe I’m on to something before y’all. 😂

[@Brooklynsagemusic]

Honestly, auto tune access is really nice for people that don’t want a lot of auto tune on their voice or for those singing singers. I personally use waves real time but I like the sounds of access

[@kwamalascience]

you can def export 3 versions of your master, 44k, 48k and 96k and then reload a session where you piece it back together so that intro is 44k, bridge is 48k and chorus is 96 or whatever you want, im actually gonna give it a try 🤔

[@PhearNoneGearGadgets]

Modes! Great episode.

[@Swank904]

Autotune mic mod is one of my favorite plugins cuz the homies be recording on Apple headphones microphones and I can get it to mimic a Neumann

[@doziermuzic]

Another goid show

[@kidwhosane]

what would be better if you guys can show us on screens during podcast as yall speak on stuff watch this podcast take oveer just something to think about Devon the mix god

[@emptytombprod]

21 minutes before we got a "you know the vibes" we're getting there guys 😂😂

[@SpaceBabyKraze]

lmfaooo ya'll counting the notes like that got me cryin

[@okaysaint]

Dear, Devvon, my greatest teacher, please explain how to do the mixing correctly. Is it possible to focus on db peaks? I've seen videos about vocals, "... best way seat in the mix", kick snare vocal, but my vocals are either drowning or too loud on top of the mix anyway. The best ever, hello from Russia

[@ruff2007]

The Different Between Analog And Digital Is The Art That's What Going To Make You Peace.

[@HumbleGthaFiddla]

Yo! 12 notes is Crazy lol....... Gotta Luv these Guys!

[@THA-REAPER]

Always used 48khZ once i heard its recommend for film...im like why limit and try to upscale later. Usually things work out better with a better start. Id use 192khz, but I only feel it and feel my resources being draind. Its like making music as the computer is booting. That slugish feeling.

[@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb]

6.16 is definitely the best mixed Kendrick song from the beef and I think it'll age the best because of that mix.

[@americatunedright1211]

44.1 is essential for low end in hiphop, you can up sample after with a good amp to 96k for clients. I believe 96k is also essential for todays time of mixing because of samples already have the right breakup through ensoniq, sp12, mpc, etc. mixing at 96k allows the additional information to be detailed precisely and modified with minimal artifacts. Upsample if you’re concerned with IMD or Nyquist but if you’re up sampling every plugin then you’re in the wrong sample rate or it’s a gain staging problem.

[@kennera]

I work in 44.1 and what i say is until ANY artist can make an album that SONICALLY sounds better than Dr. Dre's "The Chronic", NWA's "Ninjas for Life", and any of Michael Jacksons first 4 albums, you are not going to really convince me the higher rates used today are "Better".

[@Reggi_Sample]

Your confusing records that were mixed in analog

[@kennera]

@@Reggi_Sample And that is actual my point. Those records were recorded recorded and mixed in analog. An "outdated" format now as Mr. Courtney would say but yet still sounds superior to any of these new higher rate recordings and mixes we hear today. So 44.1 still sounds great and is a viable recording format.

[@cardpuller17]

​@kennera very true.

[@HollerAtcherBoi]

Why lock yourself into 44.1 when you could always downsample to that later if you wanted to? Now you’re much more prone to aliasing. Look into foldback and aliasing.

[@ILoveTelecasters]

And those albums are 48k when you stream them. I’m not going to pretend I can tell if a song 44.1 or 48, but there are advantages to 48 such as less aliasing. Also a lot of converters are better optimized for 48k.

[@keagansemon8506]

Damn yall is dumb 😂😂😂 Ngl watching yall try to talk about scales was hilarious. All love gentlemen thank you for the laughs and the insight every week 🤘🏼

[@2raw4rubbers]

i need rosetta eq..great episode

[@brandonashford561]

Automating the sample rate is crazy 😂

[@EricVito404]

i record and usually mix in 48k 24bit. It's a difference from 44.1 for sure.

[@Reggi_Sample]

Definitely feels less harsh

[@natewilliams83]

I gotta help you with your scales and modes 😂😂

[@tonylancer7367]

Where is the video of the 41.1 vs 48Khz you mentioned? Don't see it in the description.

[@deiwar2994]

@deightonwarner Also 48kHz, why battle with the film people?

[@alonsonunez1580]

YO! Logic got that new update to 11….. stem splitter and it’s FREE 🙏🏽💪🏽 talk about it!

[@XPose_]

I do 32 bit float at 48

[@SpacedOutDoonie]

I like messing with Other Desert Cities delay

[@SEVYNTHEVILLAIN]

12:24 this is filthy works 😭

[@_CUANDO]

Breh I need to design the soundboard

[@akibchoudhury741]

Waterfalls is insane 🔥🔥

[@BRamen.]

That sweata dude is hard asf

[@timstewart235]

Ableton avalon 🎉

[@mrniice]

Lemme pay for the year in advance and let me skip to diamond quick 😅🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@thegetdown5992]

I did some writing for this guy named sweata 😂

[@runituproil2373]

5:50 that's awesome your mom called and she has a surprise for y'all 🔥🔥🔥🔥😄 @LJ

[@SiQuemaCuhh]

14:50 Oeksound

[@zenryda]

48 k is blue ray DVD quality

[@tommyflores4443]

Ask kaelin ellis about the AI intro song for his community. It's made with AI and it's so fiiirreee!! What y'all did at 16 minutes reminded of it 🎺

[@hendricksam]

48kHz for the high end detail but slam high shelf cuts on everything!

[@Reggi_Sample]

This

[@kenzoblytheproducertv4934]

I agree about the technology is over the top from the past but… Why is the music we make doesnt sound nor feel better?Thats where im at with it. Terrace said musicans had what they had the year it came out in the past right and there music resonated so much more than today thats why we love older gear,20 years now nobodies going to be getting nothing vintage from now because of “technology”. So i dont think i know because of technology being so fast and companies shitting products out left and right getting old “vintage” stuff is going be over because the future generations are going super update gang and thats really where we are at now…But to each his/her i say use whatever you master and love.

[@bwayneeth]

Artist was for live performances

[@TheHuBBaOfficial]

48k all the way =)

[@hundeaux]

Bro said Girbaud monitors lmao

[@Jargon.Grimjaw]

EFX was dope, but this new Pro O_O that harmony player is AMAZING! Harmony Engine who?....cares? Lol

[@vrivers_]

Waves Tune gang🤭

[@I-Was-MATA]

192k what i work on

[@deiwar2994]

@deightonwarner I'll take any Rosetta

[@rahkeem28]

I use to mispronounce Oeksound, Neumann, Antares and even Manny Marroquin

[@Sub-Zero-gr5cf]

I work in 48

[@Degreeees]

Fun fact: Diss records ain't about the mixes brodies 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Dageezii]

Get rid of the flex knob on autotune

[@ProdDavidWalker]

Yeah but bit rate matters more I think. Once all the interfaces and mics are made 32-bit it’s game over.

[@TroubleKofLLE]

While "Not Like US" is a hard azz track, I ain't gone hold ya fam, the mix on that record was mid. I think I got 2 agree with LJ on the idea of Kdot just rushing to claim the airwaves and not really carry bout the mix, at least at far as the beat goes.

[@vrivers_]

Mix on the beat was fye but the overall mix with the vocals was deff mid

[@rayvontebrightman4190]

Aint nothin wrong with the vocals, y'all take the technical aspect too seriously. I engineer too but from the stance of an artist and as long as its audible and i can understand what the artist is saying its fine.

[@vrivers_]

@@rayvontebrightman4190 The vocals were normal nothing crazy. Most of his disses were typa dirty mix wise. Not saying it’s wrong

[@iceprada2]

What did it prove? IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER, music is music! As long as it don’t sound like chiptune u good lol

[@vrivers_]

@@iceprada2 I mean we ARE talking mixes and specifics…. Ya’ll don’t know how to interact without assuming things😂 Way too much music out there with horrible mixes rn. Not saying those songs were included but we need to bring the art of mixing back and it just has to be said. & that doesn’t mean “perfect”

[@omgzoremix]

96k is king 👑

[@MarcusSt0ne]

I still have no idea how to pronouce u-he. I literally just say "You He" but I've heard people say "Ew He" 😂

[@franklopez4028]

12 notes 23:44

[@jamesdpterodactyl3068]

Everyones talking about oversampling but yall are sleepin on undersampling

[@Reggi_Sample]

Ayyyyy🎉

[@HShorro]

commenting for commenting purposes only

[@noelgallard1128]

You guys are forgetting different tone temperaments in different countries. Like the Indian scale in not off the same scale format that you’re familiar with.. as well as like when people sing in the Arabic tuning for that type of music. Those scales are used really often. Maybe not in RnB and rap because they aren’t very musical genres but you’ll see it in rock and jazz etc 🤷🏻

[@cardpuller17]

R and b is one of the most musical genres. Especially 60's and 70's. That genre impacted the WORLD.

[@noelgallard1128]

@@cardpuller17I don’t hate RnB I love it. It’s just simple not difficult to write or play. That’s why they dont utilize more scales

[@ericb-amuur9897]

88 and 92 all day

[@iamquaret]

Yooooooo

[@xvnvs8673]

Auto tune artist is for live

[@guitarontopcristofontecill9684]

lol... or not...

[@francisguyman3819]

I honestly think the Heart Pt 6 mix sucks shit

[@rhymesupport2725]

44.1 cause im poor lol

[@robertbenardo586]

😅

[@Doty6String]

Oh man this music theory discussion. Fellas, just stop

[@rayvontebrightman4190]

Just make good sounding music, the consumer does not care what sample rate you use

[@nine27]

although you are right this convo isn’t about the consumer.

[@Octwavian]

talk more trash on plugins. It's a cool concept

[@marcusgarveyson]

Please stop it ..44.1 is good as 96k and i dare anyone to prove a difference in sound its all placebo

[@davidfields1920]

[@vontreherumaiBH]

‼️‼️‼️WORK IN 88.2 ..Thank me Later

[@moxictasculinity]

overkill

[@vontreherumaiBH]

@@moxictasculinity mixes sound waaayyy better and plugins sound better and vocals sound more real ! And why not if you got the right computer for it ! I’ve done tests for years ! Overkill is a good word for it cus I make sure my mixes killin it my boy

[@DiamondThief444]

Bakin sooodaaa🤣🤣 @zen.tao_ Update: I'm glad I saw this video because I'm mixing this beat for a contest I'm in, I never knew about oversampling and tried 48Khz... wtf are these other producer talking about, my mix sound way better now! those producers need their ears checked lol its not even close

[@crazyluggage]

Just watched the Jack Joseph interview you mentioned he said he uses 44.1 or 96k 48 is the “least musical” to him…🫡

[@germcityentertainment1566]

I work in 48