Do The Red Sox Have A Chance At Corbin Burnes?

We discuss the Red Sox’s search for another top starter. With Corbin Burnes still unsigned, what’s the holdup? Are we surprised that Max Fried went first to the Yankees? Could the Sox swoop in and land Burnes or another top name?
We also look at other free-agent candidates, including Walker Buehler, Jack Flaherty, Sean Manaea, and Nick Pivetta. Plus, we dive into potential trade options-could the Sox make a move for Luis Castillo from Seattle or Jared Jones from Pittsburgh?
Tune in to hear our thoughts on what the Red Sox pitching rotation could look like in 2024, with Tom Caron and Alex Speier, here on 310 to Left! For the full episode of 310 To Left, click here: bit.ly/4iGX5IZ
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[@victorgonzalez4036]

It seems this offseason is gonna go same way the last 5 years, be on a player but don’t expect to really get the players. Is the same from the last 5 years…

[@CentaurusRelax314]

My persistent question: why spend $190million for a chance at the last wildcard when you could spend 220 for a chance at the division? If you're an owner worth 7 billion dollars, why spend so much only to come so short? Feels like The Red Sox have gone from a passion project to a spreadsheet item within a large conglomerate. Sports franchise owners need to be a bit apart from pure pragmatism and accounting. They need to be a bit closer to a win at all costs ethos. They owe that to the fans. If not, put your money into hedge funds and let people with *love* have a shot. This doesn't mean i advocate for pure blindness, but the Sox have been at/near the basement for far too long, as a big market, historically significant franchise. An inexcusable length of time without contending. What bothers me most is that we still seem to be waiting for things to fall to us. The Yanks are proactive. They decide what they want, and they go after it. We're in the business of settling. Crochet doesn't excuse the 'process.' We gave up a lot of human capital for that. Ownership could have spent money for the same objective. Losing Teel seems to hurt right now-i hope there's a plan for catching.

[@jk11463]

To me trading for crotchet was all the proof I needed that this off Season was gonna just be more of the same. Ownership and the front office are still only looking at the cheapest way to do business. You don’t see the Mets, Yankees, dodgers operating with the same mind set as the Sox. I for one think the whole Juan Soto thing was just a sham. A dog and pony show. They knew whatever their final offer was it wasn’t gonna get the job done. And the organization collectively breathed a sigh of relief when he chose the Mets.

[@CentaurusRelax314]

@ I feel that, though I’m nit 100% on board with all of it. I think there was genuine interest in Soto, but they were never going to be the high bidder. Coming in third was exactly my prediction: the Sox would want him and try but the offer would be more ‘considered and rational’ than the Yanks or Mets. The Yanks would offer silly money, and Cohen would offer stooopid money. That’s just how it was going to play out, and the Sox hoped the delta wouldn’t be so great and they could hope that Soto would compromise a little, give up a little money, because he wanted to be a part of the Sox/DR legacy. I guess the difference was too much though as a poor person I cannot understand how 60 million is important when you are getting over 500 million. At that level, I’d want to just choose where I wanted to go. Re Crochet… I thought trading for him was the plan since last season. That’s not the indicator of intentions this offseason. Giving up that much human capital for him represents a desire to win now. To me, whether they actually *pay money* for another top of the rotation guy will be the indicator. I feel like if we get a Burnes or Flaherty we have a good chance to win next year and can let the kids play (Anthony and Campbell) without worrying so much about their offensive production because we can suppress runs on the other side. We are entering a window with the young talent. I do agree the ownership is still in a mindset where they wanted to emulate the Rays’ ‘success on a budget,’ but realized it’s not just a simple formula, so they’re inching back up to being spenders. The problem is that the market is blowing up faster than they can evolve their thinking. Burnes wants too many years for his decline and age. We are likely to still be getting involved with compromises because of the fear of the biggest pitching contracts. We should have been more proactive-like the Yankees and Dodgers-in identifying targets and getting them and not just waiting for the market to come down and thus having to settle for third choices. Fried would have been a good get, but now we have to try to beat him.

[@mark58291]

Go get Burnes, he is worth it!

[@patrickjoyce9633]

John Henry and Sam Kennedy hate the fans

[@robwasilewski9273]

The Sox need at least another ace or a 2 starter pitching. A power right handed bat. Bullpen help.

[@boman9313]

Get Burnes and Teoscar or Alonso. Start making some moves before it’s too late

[@jk11463]

Why would teoscar even consider signing with the Red Sox if the dodgers want him back?

[@ariasfamily350]

Another wasted YEAR! Yankees stacking up while we over hear blah blah blah blah! Sign those free agents players and stop the BS!!

[@bigEsmall]

Crazy how people can't seem to understand that a willingness to spend 700 mil on a generational talent doesnt equate to the willingness to spend 700 mil on the types of players that are available every offseason.

[@natedogg0131]

I do but yea same thought

[@Guywithnolimbs]

Soto is worth 550 mil max im just glad that the red sox werent as stupid as the mets for going over 700 million, plus the getting 3 well established players for 700 million or under is way better than having juan soto

[@ArthurAnthony-n1e]

They the brass were all in for giving Soto 700 hundred mill which made us feel they were to spend now you got Barnes sitting out there still if they don't sign another high end pitcher then they were full of it from the start and I will force myself to be a fan somewhere else after 50yrs

[@UESide]

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

[@kevinstott3657]

SPEND THE MONEY BRESLOW ON ACES AND CLOSERS IN FREE AGENCY! NO MORE TRADES!

[@ScottD768]

They SAID they wanted Soto... But they were purposely bidding knowing the Yankees, Dodgers and of course the Mets were also in it. I don't believe they had any intention on outbidding the Mets. They knew Steve Cohen would out bid them. But they could tell their fans " we tried". Then they said they were in on Max Fried. Gee, it just so happens they got outbid by the Yankees. How did you expect that to go? Now Corbin Burnes is sitting right there for the taking and of course there'll be some excuse. Corbin Burnes is the best pitcher on the market as far as I'm concerned. So they traded for Garrett Crochett, who is not proven yet and give up good young talent. They could have kept their young talent and shellec out some cash to get both Corbin Burnes AND Max Fried (they have the money, that they get from the fan base) for less than they would have paid for Soto without having to give up any talent. Even if Garrett Crochet turns out to be a real Ace as soon as they have to pay him real money they'll let him go. If any of you believe anything they've said after the last 4 years of lies you're fools. All they are going to look for are bargains and wash ups. They will not do what needs to be done. If they are really serious, they'll give Corbin Burnes the money he deserves, go out and get Hernandez or at least Santander and some real bull pen help. But I'll tell you right now. They won't do any of that. Why? Because they have no interest in doing what needs to be done. They have no interest in keeping their word. They have no integrity. Breslow is nothing more than one of their tools.

[@bobbyvlado7383]

No chance he wants them $1 million a year Sox are not paying Juan Soto was a way to lie the fans were getting in the action but there not paying anything this year again

[@scottperron5219]

There were gonna spend 700 million on Soto but now they don't wanna spend anything on any player now, I don't understand this ownership group, wake the hell up!

[@KramnedEnirehtac2408]

what the redsox need right now is a new ownership.. this owners has no intention on signing sotto in the first place, they just want to be in the conversation. these owners will dry out the farm system and not spent money..

[@1950Chimaera]

Corbin Burnes for $35m X 8 years... get the infield fixed with their prospects... Maybe spend more for Scott, maybe not bother.

[@lawrenceterrell8471]

They not spending anything Sam Kennedy lied once again saying we going full throttle and now we are gonna spend over the luxury tax threshold so far we only signed Chapman that's not gonna improve this team at all

[@notstarboard]

Garrett Crochet? They have like two months until pitchers and catchers report and there are tons of guys still out there. Wait and see.

[@lawrenceterrell8471]

@notstarboard I'm not holding my breath only time will tell

[@ArthurAnthony-n1e]

As a 50yr Fan this Hurts if True

[@lawrenceterrell8471]

@@ArthurAnthony-n1e I hope management proves me wrong including this comment I feel they are gonna depleted their farm system but if they do it means they aren't spending but the bigger issue they face is you gotta spend even if the farm system is a bail out for them to improve the team who ever you bring might want an extension or will they do what they been doing let them walk during FA the ownership group has lost the passion for winning they are showing us they are about padding their pockets and sticking to a very very very tight budget this ownership group has all agreed too sadly

[@bryandean5563]

Ownership still has the bitter taste in their mouths from the David Price and Chris Sale contracts, that's why they aren't looking to deal out long term contracts for 30+ y/o starters. I personally think they are trying to be as responsible with THEIR money (remember it's not ours!) as they can by trading away minor league depth pieces (with the exception of Teel...) instead of just throwing millions out to just whoever is available this year. We've also got to remember that baseball is a marathon and you want to try to build a great team that's going to be together for a long time and one that is going to be young, talented, and controllable. Another thing that's being overlooked when I hear about them signing a big bat is the logjam at DH and the outfield... I believe that's why they haven't inked the deal with Teoscar or Santander yet. Yoshida needs to be moved to free up some lineup flexibility at the DH spot. A lot of people throw out their ideas without weighing the fact that each move has big effects on the future of the team. There are also so many moving parts to try to get these things done.

[@garygagnon4637]

Well I hope they love the taste of having a 500 club every year because that's all they're going to get

[@garygagnon4637]

And yoshida's contract will be impossible to move. Let's be serious

[@bryandean5563]

@@garygagnon4637 You’re right, and that’s why I don’t see us signing any bats this offseason unless there’s another move in the works involving Abreu.

[@garygagnon4637]

@bryandean5563 They have a really good young core and I hate to see them trade pieces away from it. Just sign Teoscar already

[@harryparsons2750]

It’s infuriating that they don’t spend money when Fenway is the most expensive place to watch a game. Last game I went to a few years ago a bottle of water was like 10$ bucks! It’s insanity

[@dbdmack]

Red Sox gold when these two chat.

[@bigbadbruins1]

Breslow only does 1 year contracts

[@angelcadena2116]

Is Framber not on the trade block anymore?

[@garygagnon4637]

Probably not after trading. Tucker

[@pasha21k]

I like our schizophrenic pitcher, Pivetta, but IF you resign him, best sign a top pitcher, like Burnes, or another top pitcher BEFORE you resign Nick! Trust me resigning Nick will NEVER fly with the fans. Also, i would be so happy NOT to see Kutter on the Redsox list of pitchers entering spring training. USE the prospects to get Jones, Cherry knows he can't sign a bunch of great pitchers, so he's unloading, like he did with Cole once.

[@richardjordon7984]

Dam, the way the 2 guys below me talking. You would think the off season is a bust. Come on you Redsox’s fan. It very early in the off season. We have already had a lot of signings. We have more great moves coming. Just give it the time. I know the last 5 years has been very hard to take in. But you must say, this feels a lot different and I think the Sox’s are going to make some more major news. We are so set up for this. So be patient. We have the start of a beautiful off season coming our way. ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻

[@garygagnon4637]

Another full throttle off-season

[@bigbadbruins1]

Burnes to Arizona 6 years $210 million. Teoscar to Dodgers 3 years &66 million. BRESLOW THE CLOWN

[@thrawn5k]

They were in on a 15 year contract worth 700+ million, but 220 over 8 is too much. I see. I just don't understand New Math I guess.

[@EnjoyaSnickers]

This was the plan all along, bid just short on Soto, acquire Crochett via trade, spend 10m on Chapman and call it a day I guess.

[@johnfinn8236]

You just don't understand value of players.

[@notstarboard]

This may come as a bit of a shock, but Max Fried is not Juan Soto

[@notstarboard]

@@EnjoyaSnickers It is mid-December, and from everything I've heard, they likely did not know what other teams' bids were when they made their ~$700 million bit for Soto. There is exactly 0% chance they did that for PR, especially since everyone annoyed about spending is still annoyed (case in point).

[@ArthurAnthony-n1e]

No bro there CHEAP..

[@christophermarston4491]

No or they would have signed him already don’t let them fool you again

[@michaelbeaule1966]

The Boston Red Sox are now a mid tier team. They are not a major player any more. Fun going to see a baseball game of course, but if you think the Sox are going to be competitive with the big dogs, well......

[@bobbyvlado7383]

Just bring the minor league players get it over with there not getting anyone