Do these INSANE Frets actually work?! 🤔

[@Joe_Satriani]

What song plays at the beginning?😮

[@devinebass]

Dirty Loops - Hit Me

[@julianvw3203]

Super Mario

[@nonsense2369]

Butt man funk rock 3000 banana spurt

[@MadeOfPotatoes]

It’s the turn around in Super Mario Bros.

[@robertmcallister4688]

It's the bonus track from AC's first album, Morbid Florist. 😐

[@Rondo2ooo]

He became one with his instrument the moment frets started to grow in his mouth.

[@silvasen1985]

LOL

[@terran236]

LMAO 😂

[@mmmHardstyle]

💀💀💀

[@weluvgriff]

😭😭😭

[@aiueokaya]

Lmao

[@TheChuckFina]

This is why fretless basses exist.

[@sirvicemanone]

Love my fretless but that is a cool bass and discussion

[@caelanwatson9812]

Both true temperament frets and fretless have their applications

[@JogohDLC]

Fretless basses have a different sound, he might want a true temperament bass, but with fretted bass sound, it's harder to learn fretless bass with that precision and his speed

[@sogehtdasnicht]

Exactly! “True Temperament Frets” cannot really work because the true intonation has to be different dependent on the harmonic circumstances.

[@marw9541]

No it isn't

[@arlowolf1690]

Dirty Loops is a great group! He was the nicest person, when I saw them live

[@ingefiddle]

Yeah Arlo, -heard this said so often now 👍 -nice and humble ☺️

[@Samus5164]

Short answer: TT makes each fret at each string the proper length for as close to perfect intonation at that position as possible without making the design impossible. Straight frets work off of kind of an average of the measurement where each fret *should* be, and this just addresses some of the smaller inconsistencies.

[@jpmillman1]

Don't forget, if one band member uses TT, the rest must follow to make an impact. Especially with metal and fusion with a prominent role for guitars

[@adnjazz]

@@jpmillman1 true, i think he primarily plays with keys and drums though, keys + TT works fantastic

[@julianmorrisco]

Perfect or equal temperament? I assume they’re going for ET to get around some of the technical limitations of the fretboard. The thing is, ET is ‘wrong’ too. I applaud people trying to push the boundaries, god knows they haven’t moved much in the last 30 years, but as an old gen-x’er I’m currently having a lot of fun writing and playing as if I’d been plonked back in 1985 with modern tech and, more importantly, knowing what I know now. I would have been into this type of stuff back then (I even had a Ned Steinberger bass at one point :D) but I’ll leave the funny looking experimentation to better looking youngsters and do my experiments with song form etc etc. I’m happy to use sweetened tunings and even key-specific tunings, as long as everyone else is as well but I actually quite like the 3rd being a bit ‘off’ the perfect maths. To me, it’s the sound of rock’n’roll. Maaaan.

[@adnjazz]

@@julianmorrisco a perfect temperament wouldn't be possible i don't think because it would have to make every key and every note in tune with each other mathematically precise. i think equal temperament is used to sound more in tune with other equal temperament instruments like keyboards and other synthesized sounds. but even they are slightly "out of tune". i play on an archtop so i prefer the normal frets, but i can understand the demand for an instrument with squiggly frets.

[@londonalicante]

It's mathematically impossible to make an instrument true temperament in all keys. As he said, his true temperament is optimised for E, A, D, G (and I suspect really only for A and D.) That's why most instruments use equal temperament as an average for all keys.

[@MattCitrano]

It’s not necessarily going to improve all thirds in the way you might think with something like “Just intonation” which may be what you were thinking of (although the thirds there did sound quite wonderful). True temperament fixes inconsistencies that happen from fret to fret, as on the guitar/bass, even with a properly intonated instrument, some notes on that string may be slightly sharp or flat. This is what the squiggles fix, so it is more in line with an equally tempered piano.

[@royareyzabal823]

If that's true then I need it

[@Marklar3]

This used to be somewhat true. They used to make guitar necks in several different temperaments. They no longer make 12tet guitars. They use a custom temperament called the Thidell Formula 1. It's a mild temperament in which some keys will sound a little better, some will sound a little worse, but none will be particularly bad or particularly pure.

[@spastickitchen]

Check the maths! The corrections are all smaller than what Helmholtz had classified as noticeable!

[@ViciousTuna2012]

@@spastickitchen I think that's bullshit. I can hear the difference. Some chords are just always out of tune on a regular guitar.

[@G8tr1522]

​@@spastickitchenhemholtz is only for two tones played separately. If you play two tones together, we can discern very small changes in pitch because of beat frequencies.

[@fujifilm5127]

He looks like the penguin from Gotham

[@rossauce12]

I was trying to figure that out... there is one more movie that had like a weirdo son of theirs that's identical to them .lmk if u know what I'm talking about I can't remember it

[@sam-hfiujsl]

Looks like Eddie bravo!

[@iRaps1]

You're all little boys

[@plantain.1739]

I think something like true temperament works better on a bass, since a lot of it's job is harmony. It's probably a good idea on a rhythm guitar too.

[@patrickmcpartland1398]

And they mainly just have eletric keys and drums in his band, and a vocalist can make micro adjustments with tuning on the fly better than anyone else. Just like anything it depends on the player and the music you want to play. Let's not act like Henrik wouldn't be one of the best players and not sound like himself on any bass he plays. Just like I have massive hands and really like my 6 string bass and use it as my main one whenever I can, even if I don't need the low notes or the c string all that much. For some people the extra work a such a massive neck takes for their hands means they will probably like their 4 string unless they really need the extended range. Neither is wrong.

[@ezrac704]

I would argue that untuned/dissonant intervals played in series don't sound as bad as untuned/dissonant intervals played together. So for example, a bassline moving down a tritone actually sounds pretty cool, but playing the two notes of a tritone at the same time sounds pretty bad (in most contexts). So yeah, maybe basslines are best when they're outlining chords, but playing a third, one note after another, doesn't sound that terrible to me. I agree with you that rythm guitars would probably benefit the most, as well as pianos. I don't think the benefit is really worth it. There's a reason why equal temperament has been dominant. That's just my opinion though.

[@mikea6710]

Yes, but wouldn't it be out of tune if the other guitar was not on the same temperament? Rhetorical question really, as I think it's incorrect to suggest that it will make an improvement in harmony, especially given most bass guitar play single notes to harmonize with the band Of course it depends on the context, but I believe that most settings using a bass guitarist (rock, pop, jazz quartet, amongst other common contexts) typically leave microtonal differences overlooked as they are quite unnoticeable, or as previously mentioned in this thread, will make adjustments (eg changing rhythm, or 'avoiding' certain notes here and there) I think guitarist that play colour chords are the ones that will benefit most out of this system... Not to say the system is useless in the bass: instruments are made to inspire all kinds of music, so a bass player with this system might choose to play colouring chords on a higher register, rest assured that each chord will sound in tune with itself

[@SublimeSynth]

Joe Pass would like a word

[@krokovay.marcell]

@@ezrac704equal temperament was an important milestone on the way how music became more and more sterile. Every major chord sounds the same on an equally tempered instrument.

[@Uatitto]

it happens when programming 808s too. sometimes you hear it slightly detuned but if you take a break it might sounds nice again :)

[@rblfrmthewstdwn]

He looks like Chris Kattan when he did the Goth Talk skit on SNL

[@dreaminginnoother]

Dude's awesome. Dirty Loops is a killer band.

[@devinebass]

💯💯💯

[@Bebopopotamus]

Isn't the idea of true temperament frets that it makes all the notes more evenly spaced within 12TET? It's not just intonation. If it were, it would be unplayable in most keys.

[@Marklar3]

The TT guys have made necks in several different temperaments over the years, creating a lot of confusion. They've also made some very misleading claims in their marketing, and they still do in their FAQs page. Currently they only make necks in the "Thidell One" temperament, which is NOT an equal temperament, meaning some keys sound better than others, but this is a VERY mild temperament, only a few cents up or down for each note. So you'll notice differences like you do here, but you won't get the pure 3rds that you would from just intonation, or quarter comma meantone.

[@theversatilehunter3651]

Yes, exactly. People seem confused. I mean you can instantly tell it's not just intonation, that sounds completely different

[@DyingBobby]

It is true that certain chords are in better tune than others with straight frets as the straight frets are an approximate average for all the strings (think of each string having its own scale and take the average.)These squiggly frets make the instrument in line with our equal temperament system, like piano. Everything sounds more consonant where some chords on straight frets are less. The reason they are squiggly is because each string has it's own scale, since they start out at different pitches.

[@ClikcerProductions]

I wish more people would talk about TT frets only achieve what they claim for exactly one setup and string gauge set, you change the action, truss rod, string gauge and suddenly all of their calculations are no longer right

[@randallhughes5687]

Lol s wrong The only way for the changes you name to happen is with longer or shorter strings AKA shorter scale. Adjusting the truss rod or adjusting the actions simply raises the strings higher or lower off of the fretboard. The only thing you named that can actually change the setup is possibly going to a different gauge of strings but then again you don't think the designers and engineers didn't know everything you listed before up pricing a guitar by at least 1k by adding TT frets?

[@ClikcerProductions]

@@randallhughes5687 You realise the calculations they do to correct it is heavily dependant on string height right? 😂

[@randallhughes5687]

@@ClikcerProductions Wrong, its dependent on string length, height won't change pitch. 🤡

[@ClikcerProductions]

@@randallhughes5687 Im gonna put this nice as simple for you, when a string is pressed down onto a fret it is put under greater tension, thats why you actually have to push to fret a string, this increased tension comes from the fact the string now has to go down and up again a little bit, turns out going down and up a little bit creates a longer route than a direct straight line (This is like 5th grade geometry), the difference this creates for tuning is dependant on the height of the string above the fret and the thickness of the string, tt takes this effect into account

[@athmaid]

@@ClikcerProductions and maybe even more importantly, you can't change tuning afaik

[@Fariqikwan]

this is how Tim Henson look when he play bass.

[@Hammondbrass]

Just intonation is -14 cents for major 3rds, +16 cents for minor 3rds, +2 on perfect 5ths, -31 cents on dominant 7ths, and -12 cents on major 7ths. The 7ths will change depending on the chord and the 3rd because you have a 5th between 1 and 5, and 3 and 7. In the orchestra we generally use Just Intonation for chords up to a 7th and Equal Temperament for chords with extensions beyond that (9, 11, 13th) since they tend to clash too much with the half steps.

[@McWizard420]

Instructions unclear, reverted back to smoke on the water

[@theversatilehunter3651]

This is very interesting to hear about in an orchestral setting! Just intonation is really important in choirs too. True temperament frets are not the same as just intonation though. It's not actually about the 3rds and 7ths (as the guy in the video incorrectly asks), it's just to account for variations in string tension and mass as you move up the neck. It's essentially just to get fretted instruments (which are kind of a mess in terms of intonation) closer to proper equal temperament, like a well tuned piano.

[@Moco_ono]

Dork

[@lildae24]

@@theversatilehunter3651 nerd

[@theversatilehunter3651]

​@@lildae24 dissapointing

[@hellskreamer]

There is a very simple way to check it, play G# and play a natural harmonic over the 4th fret on E string, and you will hear quite the difference in pitch.

[@samchoate1719]

Isn’t the natural harmonic over the 4th fret on the e string a g#?

[@hellskreamer]

@@samchoate1719 it is mb

[@SA.1196]

​@@samchoate1719it is, the g# on, say, the 3rd string 1st fret is sharper Our ears have gotten used to that sharpness. Just try it for yourself and you'll see!

[@iDoqz]

@@samchoate1719 not exactly, its very close but a G# in 12tet is gonna be a bit off from the just intonated third (the harmonic). Its something like 14 cents off i believe

[@jeremyparris6121]

You can hear the beat frequencies at work. A little bit on the first chord, a lot on the second, and then the third is pretty clean. It's almost like a wah-wah sound

[@thomasowens5824]

One of my favourite bassist.

[@alfiemillersharp]

The theory behind this is mathematical, the Pythag maths are supposed to be perfectly in tune, but when you do the circle of 5ths 12 times it's actually a bit sharp. So we've made each note in a scale slightly out of tune so it matches up. Also the Dirty loops are great!! (I submitted a written assignment on this last night so please forgive)

[@Beathoven007]

For organs there was the Werkmeister temperament and when pulling out a real harpsichord or even from a keyboard preset it sounds kind of dull till a temperament like Kidderminster III is applied for mathematical reasons, which gives it a bit more "air" between how closely positioned notes interact in each others sustain. Given different temperaments were tailored for different instruments, it kind of paints the picture that individual "tone color / behavior" of an instrument also seems to play a major role in whether or not to apply one. The piano has a far more layered tone and preparing it with a Werkmeister or Kidderminster temperament variation doesn't spice it up for the better like it does to the instruments they were meant for.

[@mattmurphy8942]

Literally ends it with “it could all just be placebo that we hear”

[@SublimeSynth]

that's humble though, he isn't claiming to have all the right answers, just that it sounds good to and inspires him. even if it doesnt matter as much someone might think, it still looks wild and makes for a unique design

[@russell_szabados]

But it's not placebo, it's physics and proven.

[@Ahimsaabbott]

As someone who plays an instrument (sitar) that is tuned using just intonation rather than equal temperament, I loved this!!! I started out on bass guitar and I also hated how the intonations of guitars is so temperamental.

[@AndrewLemmings1998]

I like it, personally. This is pretty cool and dude is a great musician with immense talent! He could probably make any bass guitar sound amazing!

[@SteveGoody]

There's a lot of confusion between true temperament and just intonation. I think the mention of 3rds might mean there was some here. - Just intonation is a whole tuning system based upon one root note, where the pitch of the intervals work best in relation to that root note. Most commonly known, the major 3rd is a little flatter, but because it's all figured out for *one* root note, any step outside of the natural major/minor scale will vary based on your intention. If we're in C and I want an F7, the Eb I need is 310Hz. If I'm in C and I want to use a Cm chord (nice way to move to the V chord), the Eb I need will be 314Hz. It's just not possible without morphing/clairvoyant frets to make a guitar that tunes to that on the fly, with your tuning intention in mind. - On the other hand, True Temperament is a purely physical, zero theory thing, where the layout of the frets is maintaining the equal temperament tuning at different points of the neck. String tension changes as you go up the neck, the thickness of the string affects resonance, among other things I'm sure, the straight frets can't account for all those little details. The True Temperament squigglies do, but I imagine string bends sound a little nervous on them 😅

[@jamiemusicboi]

Why has my ear adjusted to the sharper 3rd…

[@ingefiddle]

Yeah, it’s interesting…

[@yugdails]

cuz it’s the only one you hear in all music now. all music is played in equal temperament nowadays. Of course you are used to the sound you hear and have heard your entire life

[@salionshatterstar]

We’re so used to guitars which feature certain chords which are less in tune than others, that we’ve become accustomed to it as a culture. We just accept it as standard now. Guitars like this which average those sounds into actual equal temperament often sound more beautiful, but can also sound “wrong” on certain songs when you’ve heard them played under a different tuning system all your life.

[@alexander-germain]

Thanks for responding to my comment with so much depth Brian - I will definitely be rewatching this video over and over to get it to sink in. Thanks for the help!

[@sandersonstunes]

Honestly the wobble is part of the character of an instrument. Its why bending pitches is so expressive. It's why vibrato gives life to a performance. Hell it's common practice to detuning vocals or synths for fatter sounds. It's the imperfections of music that makes it worth listening to. A choir full of professional vocalists trained to sing together will still sound different than a single vocalist stacking their voice in recording.

[@devinebass]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@FabioLovaglio]

Some imperfections sounds better than others though, you can easily add imperfections by pressing harder, bending and vibratos but certain dissonances, especially with extended chords, sound just wrong.

[@josuastangl7140]

Those imperfections are great when they're a deliberate choice, like vibrato, detuning and singing. But having hard limitations in the instrument that often sound a little harsh and unwanted are not the thing I'm looking for. I often deliberately play chords with the root note on the E instead of the A string, because the third is more in tune on the G string compared to the B string. (As those strings are a major third apart instead of a perfect fourth, it changes the intonation of some intervalls a little)

[@nick8397]

What's the piece he plays at the beginning?! I love it!!

[@jakeshredsbass]

Hit Me by Dirty Loops

[@nick8397]

@@jakeshredsbass thank you!!

[@zavala1491]

So what was it?

[@catofdeath8177]

The fact that he acknowledged the possibility of it being placebo immediately made me like this guy. Not because I think it's bullshit or anything, but sound is the single easiest sense to fool with your own brain and sooo many musicians forget that and state "this tiny thing is objectively important" when it doesn't actually sound any different.

[@BeatMeter]

The idea is that every note is perfectly in tune no matter where you're playing the guitar when intonation and in tune it's not a little out on certain chords it's always right with the Tru temperament necks

[@Gabriel-Joey-Busso]

Las últimas notas q hace suena tannnn Deftones 🤤🤤🤤🤘🏻🤘🏻🙌🏻👏🏻

[@LeVezz]

No it's not placebo , you hear the right thing. The "battements" of the harmony is very real .

[@migsfire5912]

🎶 Blame it allllll on my roots!!! 🎶

[@suburbanindie]

Placebo. An interesting word. I think it applies to a lot of people's perception of tone. There's a vid by Jim Lill where he scientifically figures out the only thing that matters in terms of tone are the strings themselves and the pickups. The body has virtually no effect

[@JamietheEmperor]

this is fucking good also that bass is BADASS

[@devinebass]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@ArthurPerez-t2e]

Yeah I never reallly had that issue with bass but definitely hear it on guitar. One of the main frustrations that have me more comfortable playing bass. When playing guitar I’m often taken out of the zone by hearing fingerings and chords sounding out of tune no matter how well I intonate. I feel like I spend too much time tuning a guitar whereas on bass I just play and with my pbass don’t have to tune for weeks sometimes.

[@channelname57]

I love that he says maybe it's all in our heads and we hear what we want to hear. I love 0 snobbery people

[@freashty]

I mean, there's a mathematical basis for more consonant resonance using different tuning systems. He's being kind of cheeky but I don't think he actually believes it's placebo

[@twojointsjay7330]

@@freashty the mathematics show that the difference in pitch is smaller than what humans are able to detect. So, really, it kind of _is_ a placebo effect.

[@freashty]

@@twojointsjay7330 source? Humans might not detect a pitch change in a singular pitch from 0 to 10 cents but the difference it makes in the overtone series between two resonant sounds is pretty noticeable in my opinion

[@adnjazz]

@@twojointsjay7330 when notes are stacked in chords, smaller cent changes are more noticeable

[@arunkarthikma3121]

​@@twojointsjay7330 This is not true, because of physics. Comb Filtering occurs when the overtones interact and cancel each other out.

[@bassalchemist]

That dude is an insanely good bass player.

[@devinebass]

💯💯💯

[@Squeeky42069]

Definitely works, and the theory is sound, but thirds in most music are never pure and often sound odd when they are (outside of vocal performances). In other words, yeah the thirds go sharp more in certain keys, but we're used to it

[@BigWilly332]

Goddamn Henrik has such a cool look

[@thomasowens5824]

Dirty Loops are INCREDIBLE, Herik is a mind blowing bassist.

[@devinebass]

💯💯💯

[@KitWriter]

And he got into bass for the right reason, because his crush said she thought bass was sexy. Then he knew he had to become the best damn bassist ever.

[@thomasowens5824]

@@KitWriter Lol.

[@kurowkarasu]

@@KitWriter That is the correct reason to play bass.

[@johngunn7766]

Song he’s playing in the intro of this video please??

[@tonycantrell2399]

Play an open G, then an open D on a guitar with straight frets. Play an open G, then an open D on a guitar with TT frets. Do the same exercise with an E form F# chord, then an E form F# chord at the 14th fret. You can hear the improvement. These frets are the best thing for guitars since locking tuners and fine-tune bridges. Intonation adjustments are no longer needed. Instead of only being tuned across the fretboard from low string to high string, each string is tuned its entire length note by note. The difference is immediately noticeable. There's no learning curve involved to play them. Every chord, scale, is played the same way. You won't have to adjust your left-hand method at all. True Temperment frets are a long overdue gift from the Guitar Gods... and the Swedes!😊

[@Leo9ine]

TT is great, but how could they not need intonation? You still need the 12th fret to be at the exact halfway point. Necks bow, saddles and frets and nuts wear down, everything changes and needs compensation.

[@tonycantrell2399]

@@Leo9ine it was an exaggeration. My apologies.

[@morbidmanmusic]

nah, it's just another option. No gift.

[@thenext9537]

The idea of true temperament works - if the other stringed instruments have it too. Ends up battling or you gotta tune to offset etc.

[@ingefiddle]

Man, intonation -the eternal issue… Jacob Collier went all out on this topic… and as Henrik said as well, elsewhere in this interview, for some parts of DL’s recordings he had to re-tune for every chord- imagine! 🤯 Insanity- but the result are stellar recordings… ⭐️

[@twojointsjay7330]

It's pretty nonsensical, when you put it like that. Retuning for every chord? I wonder what secret he's privy to that no-one else in 6,000 years of human music has.

[@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879]

I like that he says it could all be placebo. I don't know if it is or isnt...he doesn't either, it seems, and I appreciate him for stating that! ...ad opposed to using them and being a living ad for them, which is how many people get when they get a new thing they like....even if it's silly and doesn't do anything special.

[@mattekudasai8249]

Love that hes able to admit it could just be a placebo lol

[@sonsauvage]

Yes they do. But I’ll put it like this. If you only have one instrument, you don’t want it to have true temperament frets

[@franciscojosecarrilloato3060]

In bass chords, specially in six strins bases (and just for high performance bassists like him, by the way), this is useful. For the rest of mortals, normal frets are ok...

[@Gabriel-Joey-Busso]

Suena tan Pink Maggit de Deftones en esas últimas notas 💪🏻🤤🤘

[@nathanielbrewster7238]

straightest bass player

[@easyethanol6611]

I've always wanted a true temperament acoustic guitar😅

[@SeanStephensen]

The point of these frets is not to get the thirds more in tune. The point is to more accurately hit the tones of 12edo, which has noticeably out-of-tune thirds. It might slightly improve the thirds (in-tune 12edo vs slightly out-of-tune 12edo), but if true temperament frets do their job perfectly, your thirds are still sharp by design. You can’t magically fix all thirds in 12edo, that‘a kind of the point of edo

[@spacevspitch4028]

I concur. Exactly what I was thinking. Also, what the other guy said about them only working for a specific setup.

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

TT is nice to have, but if it can be used with regular frets and not cause a clash (it says so on TT's site) is the upgrade worth it? Also, we have grown used to guitar sounding sweeter in the lower registers and warmer in the upper registers, especially on 24.75" guitars. Next, you can use a digital strobe tuner to optimize your tuning for different instruments. Last, I would say bass is the hardest instrument to hear being out of tune vs. guitar, especially if the bass has a vintage/warm/passive sound with the tone knob rolled down. Fan frets with differing scale lengths are another matter, as they often have to be there to provide tuning stability for very low/high tunings. Conclusion: TT is nice, and ideally all instruments should come with it, but as it stands as an expensive upgrade (and probably expensive to refret given many techs don't have experience with it), it seems much ado about nothing in the current instrument market. Maybe in 10-20 years it will make more sense. After all, from the 50s-70s, 24 frets were considered a luxury and now they are standard on most 25.5" guitars not patterned after vintage Fenders or Gibsons.

[@Clifts]

Hunter Vs Don Jr would be an epic match

[@marshal-d-123]

definitely NOT placebo! That last third was like hearing gold

[@jennychen5119]

When was last time you change strings? As a cellist, when the strings are old the intervals starts to move a bit because the string just become more stretched or more elastic as you play on. Not sure about the guitar.

[@TowerofGuitars]

Definitely true on guitar! There are some famous bassists who didn't change their strings for years to get a less harsh 12tet/ slightly more randomized tuning. Like a stand up bass in human hands.

[@endicotttyler]

I just wanna know that ditty played in the opening lol. Sounds lovely

[@EddieG1888]

True temperament is great....as long as you only want to be in tune with yourself. When every other instrument is equal temperament, the one guy that'll be out of tune is Henrik.

[@-GRAVESITE-]

Even though I’m not a fan of the body it’s still a really cool bass

[@DrMurdercock]

Yeah, I know why they make these kinds of bodies, it's too allow full access to the higher frets, but man is it UGLY

[@jared_s2]

mattias ia eklundh uses true temperament and imo he sounds very unique and the notes he plays do not clash between octaves . it sounds better imo.

[@mrlofi333]

Idk why but I love bass chords

[@devinebass]

🧡🧡🧡

[@Stickiest_Man]

My swedish sense us tingeling

[@nologo24]

GOOD BASS TO PLAY AND THIS COLOUR SAME NEW SQIER KITTY TOO ,,,GUY GOOD JOB

[@Tigermaster1986]

I think this is pure placebo effect. Even pressing the string too hard could bend it slightly out of tune, not to mention moving your wrist up and down or doing vibrato. And how do these frets affect bending? Don't they get in the way?

[@Zooropa_Station]

If a player pushes the strings the same amount in general (say +3 cents avg) then a wonky-tempered interval that adds another 10 cents can absolutely be noticed even amidst the other imperfections. There's a reason players who use a lot of strongly dissonant or resonant chords/double stops get pissed off by that enough to get a TT guitar (metal panic chords for example).

[@mechamind9569]

First chord sounded exactly like Seemann by Rammstein

[@Ampent2025]

I know I'm stupid, but can't the scale length of each string be adjusted at the bridges' saddles?

[@maxx42069]

i always thought these frets were more for proper intonation in 12 tone equal temperament rather than actually adjusting the temperament overall. isn’t that what a sweetened tuning would be for? idk, i’m dumb

[@DomesticatedDemon]

So much of music/audio engineering is subjective "placebo" It is all art after all 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@JALNIN66]

First time I saw his fretboard I thought I was drunk or there was something wrong with my monitor. I'm not even gonna explore that world of high end basses. I'll stick with my collection of straight fretted basses.

[@Ultra-Collector]

No they go flat at the end for sure if you don’t bounce between in tune and slightly sharp as the note rings out. Better a bit sharp than flat!

[@DaveyMulholland]

Look up Wendy Carlos demonstrating equal and true temperament and tell me you can't hear the difference... It's called 'bob moog wendy carlos interview' about 3 mins 10 seconds.

[@proteinmonster]

Who is this and what song?

[@rarebasses]

I’ve been playing about 46 years and have no idea what TT Frets are. I even tried to look them up. No idea what this video is about but that doesn’t surprise me knowing it’s source.

[@Zooropa_Station]

It means that with straight frets the intervals aren't fully accurate at times - slightly sharp/flat occasionally, audible to the human ear if you have good ear training. TT frets make those micro-adjustments that straight frets eschew.

[@mikeferguson4816]

when I do intonation on guitar/bass, when you've got a nice fret board, every note hits in-tune all the way up... I'm confused

[@lvrbass]

It's not placebo it is science lol

[@croay]

"the thirds are more true????" holy mambo jambo

[@chiefstryder4538]

One of the best bass players in our century

[@mohitmorris]

If this man (Henrick) tells me his bass wakes up in the morning before he does & makes him a coffee, I'm inclined to believe him!

[@platinumpengwinmusic5564]

How is his bass tuned? There are so many ways to tune a 6 string bass. Very cool. Until you need a fret-redress, lol.😂

[@xmccarthy]

That progression reminded me of This War of Mine.

[@ipodgolfer13]

If Henrik says it, I listen.

[@suuuiiii]

For a second thought “why brendon urie playing 6 string bass?” 😂

[@AbsolutelyCasual]

Love single cut basses

[@adamnilsson566]

I’ve known about TT frets for years now and saw no downside to them, until I spoke to my guitar tech the other day and he was like ”yea, they’re great… until you need to polish them. Where normal frets could have a long lifetime these just need to be changed every time they need polishing basically.” (I don’t know if polish is the right word, but you know, when you file/sand them because they’re worn.)

[@NigelOdinson]

Not of they are stainless steel 👌 won't even need a polish, which is the smallest fret work you can do, to a complete re fret or where you roll or crown them is also not needed with SS frets. So I would say only get them if the guitar is SS frets because they will last a lifetime without needing a polish or anything. Honestly the best thing I ever did was change from nickel frets to SS frets due to how smooth they are and the need to never do anything to them as they will always stay the same due to the nickel wound strings being a softer metal.

[@adamnilsson566]

@@NigelOdinson Ah, good point! I’m not that knowledgeable when it comes to fret materials, I would have assumed my guitar tech was…

[@newgunguy4176]

Can someone just check every string on every fret with a tuner and see if it makes a difference? Sheesh!

[@rafnaj1]

I wouldn't expect a dude that looks like him to play that kind of music

[@claudioturcheschi3956]

It's not placebo, dudes! Anyone who's sung in a choir knows that in natural intonation major thirds are lower and fifths are higher than those on the tempered keyboard of a piano or any other instrument made for playing in every key..

[@theversatilehunter3651]

TT frets are not the same as just intonation :) the 3rd are still sharp. They're just more consistently sharp, lol.

[@bigbrownhouse6999]

“If I tune it’s supposed to be pretty in tune.”

[@michaelmenkesOZSKIB]

It’s just differently broken than equal temperament. The problem is everyone with a fretted instrument in the band needs to play the same true temperament AND watch their chording carefully. True temperament is a step backwards thanks to new technology to create weird frets “accurately”.

[@doasty]

I like that after the explanation he sez well it could just be placebo😂

[@TheTreedodger]

I always thought it was the way the light hit them

[@chiron01]

Wait until bassists find out about microtonal frets.

[@lee5150]

Anyone know what song he’s finishing at the start of this vid?

[@devinebass]

That's 'Hit Me' from the Loopified album

[@matthewotremba9230]

True Retro Grouch ,,,,, KEEP EM

[@TiqueO6]

Haha..." if I tuned"... very scientific...

[@bveracka]

I had no idea that True Temperament was a company.

[@devinebass]

Yup, it is indeed!

[@Mcperson823]

What would happen if you bent the string

[@tylerm8145]

Yes.