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Holistic Songwriting is the most relevant resource for modern Songwriters/Producers on the net.
Friedemann Findeisen is an award-winning songwriter and the author of the bestselling book "The Addiction Formula". As a musical profiler, he coaches some of the biggest producers in Germany.
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[@mkoffler]

another point that can be learned here: START with that structure formula. as soon as it works, you may still change the song at a later stage. make it more complicated later, not vice versa.

[@mkoffler]

@@oinkooink well i've written my first 1000. so i've forgotten al formulas already. and i even forgot i posted this comment ;-) oink oink

[@ianmathew05]

max koffler pls check this kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJS3fHR3ds6qZpI

[@ozanmrcan]

@@oinkooink I'm sent here by the chosen one

[@robertvondarth1730]

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[@MrKennyBones]

This! There is no formula, every song is different. The key is listening to the song and trying to figure out what the song wants to be. Not what YOU want it to be. That will always feel forced.

[@threes5031]

Learn the rules like a pro so you can break them like an artist. -Pablo Picasso

[@thekalamerchant]

Now that is a cool quote. :^)

[@suspicious_coconut_water]

Oh dang

[@kdakan]

Yet these are not the rules you need to learn.

[@EasyTiger.01343]

Yeah! He totally said that, in what, 1926?

[@velvetandvice]

Yup - I started life as a photographer and my tutor, 40 years ago, would shout "SHOOT THE FUCKING POSTCARD!" When he was in a better mood he would also say, "To be an artist, first you have to be a craftsman"

[@semi-relatablerants3964]

When your ten favorite songs consist of tool, pink floyd, and rush: *Sweats nervously*

[@Dylanquinn666]

Same lol. Learn the rules before you try breaking the rules ;)

[@Benjamin_Lees_]

Ikr he said "pop song" like bruh

[@szhzs6121]

and here i am thinking of my favourite techno song...

[@kingsarrow4808]

A lot of them actually still follow this formula or at least something relatively similar.

[@stevenswisher4339]

Mine are all prince, I feel your pain 😂

[@remotegod255]

Yo, I just wanted to come back and leave an updated comment. Since watching this *just 10 days ago* I have recorded drafts of *FIVE finished songs* and I'm halfway through a sixth one. That's more than I usually finish in a damn YEAR! Nearly a finished song every two days! Are the songs great? HELL no. I would barely share these with anyone. But... BUT... there are some killer IDEAS in them - a hook and chorus here, a couple verses there, a bridge and a pre-chorus in another one... and I am *learning* soooo much by making these. And just getting over my ANXIETIES about finishing songs. Another source that has helped me write is the book "Write Better Lyrics" by Pat Pattinson, because I was having trouble writing words to my music. But the main thing is THIS VIDEO. I created an ultra-basic template exactly as described and picked a keyboard/synth plugin, got the 4 tracks set up (Keyboard, Vocal, Bass, and Drums with a basic drumbeat for each section) Then I just started writing and recording. I have this folder now called "Fast Shitty Songwriting" that takes all the PRESSURE off, since I *admit* the songs will mostly be crap, I just write and LEARN over and over again! I can tell I'm improving, though! It's helped me focus on good form and structure, not creating polished tracks, more like really focusing on the BASICS and ESSENTIALS of songwriting, which I always felt like I did NOT understand. Now, with each song I finish, it all makes more and more SENSE!!!!!! Just wanted to really thank you again man, it's making a major difference in my creative life. Love your videos

[@remotegod255]

Coming back almost a year later to say I've finished writing 50 new songs and now I'm moving forward on arranging and producing the best ones to start releasing soon :) Been working on music almost every single day and still just as excited - no joke to say this video was a lifesaver for me!

[@JohnLozo]

@@remotegod255 Congrats!! Glad everything went well for you :)

[@paulbeck2816]

Way to go, you are inspiring🎶🎶🎶

[@cyndyduda3400]

Remote God Who cares what others think. The point is that, You’re Doin’ It🤛🏼 And that’s satisfying to your soul👍🏼 As for me, I have about 25 years of acoustic songs, but no lyrics. So I’m just starting. I know what I want to write about, I just have to put words to music and hope it goes together. Thanks for the post, it gives ,me hope✍🏻

[@thomasdc2439]

same for me. I had thousands of random unfinished ideas before I've seen this video. Then I've used this template and also the "4 chord song" approach and suddenly I was able to finish songs. They are not perfect by any means, BUT … done is better than perfect.

[@DamnTastyVegan]

“Don’t make something bigger, make what comes before it smaller” when I first learned this from your book it blew my mind. So simple and so powerful. It works amazingly well

[@sirshinra]

Listen to most songs now days. Dua Lipa IDGAF for instance, the verse is like nothing at all apart from a simple guitar. We live in simpler times.

[@DamnTastyVegan]

Absolutely. There is so much implied tension in songs these days. It lets the audience fill in the blanks. So very cool to listen to and analyze

[@mikehall6e]

I think this description applies to the male erection!

[@Ahhyourepissingmeoff]

Ever since then I started shaving my pubes.

[@JimJWalker]

Do the opposite...."Digging in the Dirt" by Peter Gabriel has a huge verse and a minimal chorus. Rules are meant to be broken.

[@yisraelgarcia858]

I love how straight forward this guy is. 0% bullshit and no wasting time some give this man a trophy

[@St0ckwell]

Holistic Songwriting - "Here's how a pop song is written" Comments - "bUt THaT's NoT hOW yOU mAkE prOG rOCk!"

[@joacobosa]

i was just going to comment the prog rock thing, you caught me

[@GB-rb1up]

A working knowledge of the periodic table of the musical elements is required!

[@unknownv8462]

Yea

[@shrineofbeats6447]

Your profile photo explains your pain

[@Thrasher5251]

I love you

[@Abaramotorai]

For someone who has had some experience with writing songs for rock bands back in early 00's. I believe some people didn't get what this video means. He didn't say you can't do anything other than this. He said this is one of the 300 ways he picked it up from studies he conducted and is the most common one. Now from there.... Some free awesome tips to makes your life easier and start getting somewhere. Creativity does play a key role in everything in Art. After all music is art. But it doesn't come from no where. One needs practice in order to achieve perfection and start making your own rules and understand some patterns. This is a simple way. And I have to say that if anyone knows a little bit about (or anything in life) music writing you would understand how far you can stretch simple ideas and transform into master pieces. Hopefully this makes sense to some folks down this comment section. Great video and thank you. Hopefully I'll see more material like this coming out. By the way rock is also pop music. ;)

[@ermonski]

As a metalhead, I'd say a lot of heavy metal hits are written this way. It's a pretty basic and easy to understand formula but trying to write a song even with this basic structure is difficult. Thank you for this guideline.

[@ianmarburger6845]

“Yes, it is, this is not a quiz show”😂😂

[@Nikita-eo2nn]

Hahaha

[@babyfazejuju]

I'm just starting out in music and this was great! I tried to go straight into creating "unique" music for fear that I would end up creating art from a template. But now I realise that you can't exactly paint if you don't even know how a brush, acrylics or a canvas works i.e. you need to develop the basics in creating music before going off to becoming Beethoven... thank youuuu

[@ladydignity]

Wow,good advice!

[@kool-ala4351]

I hate when people say “MuSiC CoMes FRom tHE hEArT!” Which is not wrong, but man I need structure! It’s like having a bedroom without walls or a roof... this is the video I needed to see!

[@amosteddx4774]

😂🤣🤣 agree with you.

[@mjones2424]

It's the difference of you enjoying your music alone or the masses enjoying it, as well. Different era's mainly due to drug use listened to very elusive music writing styles, but when sober a template may be helpful hahaha

[@DreampunkOffical]

Good music comes from talent

[@tylerhodgson8919]

It’s sad seeing all these comments going “im never gonna do this - it limits my creativity”... literally structure is what makes music possible to follow and understand. Composers have been using form and structure for centuries. Nowadays you see less variation on the content and maybe less of a stray from the structure as you may have seen before, but structure really does help and by no means limits creativity.

[@ELLIOT8209]

They think going against the grain is magic

[@MrMikomi]

@@ELLIOT8209 Going against the grain and making it work is magic.

[@totallyfrozen]

I wouldn’t worry about those people. They’ll never make any music that reaches the world.

[@rubenvela44]

Its good inspiration but not sure how to do it. I can make perfect harmonies but not sure how to give it an intro or a bridge

[@Pulse2AM]

@@rubenvela44 You can repeat the chorus melody on a synth for an intro as an example or do something only heard once in the song at the intro. Bridges are usually a departure either melodically, with different chords, break it down by taking out the drums etc.

[@Proutprutproutprout]

THANK YOU. I kept making small pieces of songs and had no idea how to arrange them into a full fledged song, this kickstarted something really satisfying!!!

[@Legndricky1]

music is art, its okay to.....not even use this formula.

[@thetruemaxgoof]

Lab Rox How is art science?

[@blearbenin]

yeah if you can make something that sounds good without using this formula then you're fine but this still helps...

[@ht9418]

@@blearbenin is math related to science?

[@callmenef2201]

Truth. But there is huge differences between, Singers, Song Writers, Rappers, and Artists.. A artists know that fact. The rest are just trying to keep up

[@ShreadsEBS]

You can make a hit top 40 song... or make music just for the love of music. These are two complete different approaches. But yes... there really are no rules to music.

[@good4sound]

I would just add that the intro should be one bar. In today's streaming arena, listeners aren't patient enough to listen to long intros. Listen to any new song on the radio. They get right to it. Then again, break the rules...

[@electricpurple4112]

Yep, things have changed a lot since the posting of this video in 2018!

[@ladydignity]

Yep,so true!

[@SuperRand13]

Literally just searched "Holistic Songwriting" and this shows "uploaded 56 seconds ago"

[@dennisvanderben2719]

SuperRand13 nice luck:D

[@labeaufitude5700]

Holistic event for a holistic songwriting

[@caliemm2159]

Good idea as well is : look how your favourite songs are structured. Example: look up online how the lyrics are written . View their structure . .Find your favourite genre, stick with that for a while. Write, experiment. With practice it starts to come together

[@matthewszymanski7037]

It's not the form that makes most pop songs sound similar. It's the combination of similar form, tempo, chord progression, three note melodies, and overproduced tracks that make them sound the same. You can totally be creative and within the form and do fun things with transitions, instrumental breaks, etc.

[@jaredharper19]

A lot of people acting like using a template or rules is a bad thing.. you’re still writing music. Some people like having a structure to get things started and need a pattern to follow. I’m very much this way and really appreciate this video!

[@alexphillips5319]

I recently composed a piece for my GSCE music qualification, and I’m glad to see that it pretty much follows this form.

[@zlatarytinova9398]

first verse pre-chorus chorus second verse chorus bridge chorus • i like this

[@rockonileva]

First: Learn the system..> Then: subvert the system!

[@Yanayofficial]

João Avelino exactly!!

[@lionel_9479]

You have to know the rules to break them

[@navjotbaskar]

this 5 minutes video has more information and rather important information than much longer ones on the same topic, mind blown, heart won!!

[@soukybird9274]

My problem isn’t writing songs I can do this for years, I just run out of words. English is not my first language so I have a problem with metaphors, big words and rhyming words. I will work on this ❤️

[@etheriusmoon1809]

You dont lyrics to make a great song

[@puffpuff5523]

maybe you can mix in your native language in your songs which would be pretty cool and maybe easier for you if you feel like that you’ll be better

[@aanniesonia9305]

I have the exact same issue and to say the truth....I'm just a beginner and am trying to get some help..😶

[@soukybird9274]

@@etheriusmoon1809 I know but I like word plays in music and I legit can’t think of any 🤣 ty tho for reminding me of that tho I appreciate it x

[@soukybird9274]

@@puffpuff5523 actually that’s a great idea!!! Tysmmm ❤️x

[@mannydemonton2943]

I don’t know you, and this is a first time watching a music construction tutorial video, but sir, that blurry golden KZbin button in the background ? You fully deserve it. Legendary content, thanks.

[@zainfadi7953]

Friedemann has explained in 5 minutes what I figured out in like a month! Great Job man, please keep uploading more stuff about the structure and arrangement, and maybe the most common drum patterns and how they change along the song, and maybe the most famous riffs and basslines? Thanks again and stay gefährlich!

[@acharich]

😅😅😅

[@RoyalFootClan]

I see the views, I see how many ambitious artists we are out here...Bless!!

[@kurtiboi5902]

im watching this outside with my shoes

[@penname1348]

dont you dare

[@Holistic-songwriting]

I'm offended!!

[@kurtiboi5902]

Holistic Songwriting okay okay im in home now. no shoes :D

[@lennon_richardson]

Your shoes watch KZbin! AMAZING!!!

[@mthomas1091]

Not even ‘house shoes’?

[@rayderrich]

Over 1.2 million viewers already, and for good reasons: you explain it well, and the information is timeless. Thanks!

[@RoomieOfficial]

This is great advice🔥

[@nxbxxha_1764]

You know I love you.

[@msp20075]

Trying this because it is now Roomie approved lol ^>^

[@Junbizzy]

I make beats and music as a hobby and have researched many sites,books and videos… this simple video literally was the most detailed and specific/Easy simple way for structure! Thanks for squishing 15years of practice into 5min instructions! Thank you!

[@ucenlyricz2983]

Contact please

[@hidatabs]

Many thanks to you man

[@willbaldwin3605]

Having to think about more instruments is making this songwriting thing much harder, but I think it brings out more potential

[@dragondrop7777]

It's funny how nay-sayers only want to create art that's "out of the box" but refuse any info on what the box is.

[@thomasmalone334]

Verse chorus verse song structure popularized for radio is the box hello

[@billybowlegs7293]

It's funnier that none of these nay-sayers can articulate their own process for writing music. (Mainly because they are poseurs.)

[@thomasmalone334]

@@billybowlegs7293 maybe it's better not to have a formulaic process that you can repeat over and over and give to others like an instruction manual and just write and edit based on how you feel and how your thoughts naturally progress and develop

[@billybowlegs7293]

Once you've gone through a few years of music theory and not skipped out on how to count out basic (very basic) rhythms, THEN worry about how you "feel". Learn to crawl and walk BEFORE you run. Do yourself a favor and practice with a metronome. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHvJaWSErt14Z7M@@thomasmalone334

[@thomasmalone334]

@@billybowlegs7293 Billy Bowlegs I wasn't talking about knowing music theory, I was talking about song structure, so your comment has little to nothing to do with what I was saying. I know how to do those things but thank you. In response to your comment, all it takes is very basic music theory to write amazing songs on the piano and guitar, a lot of the most popular music in the world is written with just a few chords. It really doesn't take a few years of studying to write a good song. I learned the piano as I wrote the music to songs with lyrics and melodies that I have been writing since I was a kid. I now write play on the piano beautiful chord progressions to songs I wrote before I ever knew what chord progressions were. It doesn't take any special training to create pretty melodies for poetry, all it takes is some time and creativity. What puts me off about these videos and what you're saying is that I just feel like it discourages normal people from songwriting because they feel like they have to meet certain standards to express themselves through lyrics and melody. Writing music and melodies through middle and high school saved me, I wrote a new song everyday without an instrument just with the melodies and thoughts in my head and it made me feel proud I could express myself and make something beautiful out of nothing. If I watched a video like this back then it would have discouraged me. Writing music has no boundaries even if it's not commercially appealing. Most of the people watching these videos probably are not realistically trying to becoming commercial songwriters, they just want to write songs for themselves. I don't like how this guy tells people "Just use this! it is what works" "it's always better" and if they don't use it "they're making things complicated". I wish he clarified this formula is vaguely just what modern pop writers generally do and it's not necessarily the formula to writing worthwhile music. Clarify that people can put their songs together how it sounds best to them, instead of suggesting that fitting their melodies and lyrics to this structure is a must. That is what is not making writing music complicated and difficult for people is to me. I'm not mad, that's just my opinion.

[@TheRealistM.A.P]

You Are A God Sent! Thank You For Your Presence!

[@Akherousia502]

I love how you can't tell if this is genuine advice or really well-crafted, dead-pan ridicule. The best part about that is there's actual knowledge to be obtained by this, yet it still feels like a criticism of the pop formula as a whole.

[@holyrockstar]

Music is feeling process...the relevance of this post will make sense in 9 months

[@KarianneHylkema]

When do we get to hear some of your own songs written according to the addiction formula?

[@FrankMjuni]

Hello can we write a song a record together?

[@markpalleschi5172]

The make what comes before the chorus lower to make the chorus stand out more makes so much sense and really fixes a problem I’ve been having

[@yourguitarsage]

Great stuff AND truth...from Nashville.

[@SonicJayy]

Wow one of my fevorite online Guitar teacher @YourGuitarSage commented,this video is definitely worth watching ❤️🎸🤟💯

[@countessratzass5408]

Truth from Memphis.

[@ashleyflores1251]

@@countessratzass5408 Wow, God bless yall. Repent of your sins. :)

[@countessratzass5408]

@@ashleyflores1251 Amen sistah girl. My sins are many.

[@ashleyflores1251]

@@countessratzass5408 Sins are many but Jesus still forgives you. :) He paid the debt of your sins so don't be ashamed but rather rejoice that you are saved if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord. :D

[@botedebasura7624]

I wish this video wasn't just about what a structure is but actually a complete song composition because I love how he teaches I want more tips

[@squidman97]

Most famous songs have the vocals come in within like 6 seconds, sometimes a 4 bar intro is too long to maintain interest. Having a short one can be an instant hook.

[@crazy_magic_music8753]

This is easily one of the best and most helpful tutorials. I've seen in a long time.

[@011001er]

Finally a KZbin lesson that's succinct. Refreshingly to the point, cheers.

[@issamiller3137]

Great tip : "Carefully plan when to add what, and the instrument will have more impact on the listener". Great advice. Max Martin is definitely the GOAT

[@fuqifiknow1122]

I'm confused. The Intro and first verse are 20 bars total? So 80 measures? at 120 bpm in 4/4, that means the first Chorus doesn't start until over 2 minutes into the song. That doesn't feel right. Am I missing something? EDIT: So i was taught by my classical piano teacher when I was 11 that a bar was a group of 4 measures. I was today years old when i learned that they're actually the same thing so I'm not confused anymore

[@arteTechtureAyman]

Bar and measure are the same length, and since we are talking about simple pop music, so it will be in 4/4 timing, which will be 4 whole notes in every measure/bar Real music uses other timing like 3/4, 7/8, 5/4 and many others, even better! They change between them inside the same song or even when changing measures

[@NcMuggets]

20 bars = 20 measures

[@totallyfrozen]

@@arteTechtureAyman Song in 4/4 time are real music too. In fact, “3-chord wonders” are real musical too. Labeling art binds it and doesn’t allow it to freely exist in its own space.

[@amidreaming716]

After years of trying and failing, this video helped me write my first complete song, it finally clicked. Thank you :)

[@dennisvanderben2719]

Can’t wait for more! Thanks!

[@warrenhoole7723]

Man!! That tip on making what comes before the Chorus smaller instead of making the Chorus bigger has just changed everything 😯👌

[@JailanSimon]

"this is not a quiz show" 😂 I loved that

[@putnamizer]

1:50 he mentions building your own structures. Most people complaining didn’t even watch the video

[@sixstringsessions4092]

I really appreciate this as a fundamentals of pop songwriting. The only thing that I would like to add to what you said throughout the video is that if you have an idea for something a little bit more experimental than this, you should definitely try it out. There are plenty of artists who don't really write songs in this manner. The major caveat to this is that if they're actually consistently good songwriters, I'm sure that they could write a song in this structure laid out by Friedmann here. And that this structure has been the foundation of what is probably the vast majority of pop hits (and a good amount of other genres) since pop hits were a thing. Great video as always though! Seriously, keep up the great work.

[@augusto7681]

Six String Sessions the structure of a song is important to me and I like to be surprised by one unconventional structure. Some songs doesn't work just repeating the chorus it loose power after many repetions.

[@sixstringsessions4092]

The thing is, it doesn't even have to be complex. Blowin' in the Wind by Bob Dylan is easily one of the best folk songs ever written, and it doesn't have a true chorus. Just a repeated refrain at the end of each verse. But it's perfect in the simple message it's trying to convey. Again, like I said, I really love Friedmann's video and this is no exception; I just want to make sure that new songwriters don't take this very valuable advice and structure and end up throwing out certain ideas because it doesn't fit into this structure. If you wanna break the rules a bit you should - just as long as you understand *why* you're breaking those rules.

[@acharich]

Examples..? The songs I know that don't follow this are mainly gospel / worship songs..

[@Knockedlooser]

Try bands like The Mars Volta, Queens of the Stone Age (they also have a lot of simple song too) or, if you have an open mind on heavier stuff, Mastodon

[@augusto7681]

The musics from the singer Bjork usually are bit diffent. In "undo" is 3x Chorus-verse then outro. In "Pagan Poetry" is verse-chorus-verse-chorus-break-chorus-outro . She always put a gran finale in her composition the Outro part sometimes is bigger than the chorus and she always add variations to lyrics or change instruments after every chorus and verse. (i have others analysis of her songs in my chanel). Adele in "daydreamer" use verse-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus. In progressive rock music is common find different structures too. In "gravidade" by scalene is verse-bridge-verse-bridge-chorus-verse-chorus in other music from the same band "cartão postal" is verse-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-outro.

[@Mike_the_Barbarian]

Awesome content as usual! So many awesome songs have been written with this structure/instruments. I can hear the artists out there going.. but I'm being limited! Good! Infinite possibilities means infinite ways to screw up your song.

[@girlethereal268]

I’ve been making music since I was 4 and this is literally the most helpful clear thing I’ve ever listened to thank you

[@orpheus9282]

This is how to write hit songs, not good music. Write what you like even if people hate it.

[@Piano_Albert]

The last slide about song structure is fricking brilliant, exactly what I needed right now. I just bought the book on audeble :)

[@katearaos]

Many people believe that "limiting" your ideas is wrong, but I believe is a clever idea to stop procrastinating and know the posible end result since the beginning 👏👏👏

[@Soundboy817]

So true

[@Tendro44]

@@markskaggs5572 Ever been indecisive? or back and forth between ideas because there are were too many of them? Well, "limiting" is a funnel (aka this video as an example) that is big enough to fit all your ideas into it. Lots of ideas go into it, only one comes out. this is to help you get started and stop procrastinating. once you are more familiar with the work, the other ideas can be revisited with what you've already learned and know. It is then usually where you start reinventing the stuff you've worked on and it becomes your own. I hoped i helped explained it okay.

[@niadomiofficial9905]

Couldn't agree more, limiting and setting restrictions helps me so much with procrastination

[@gerardovega7983]

Kate Alexandra truth for a lot of things in life.

[@zoltannemeth8864]

Tendro RR - What if I am uncertain if I am indecisive?

[@brown-fisher-fryefamilyvid4205]

You may changed my whole writing world Thank you

[@arcct5504]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us and the effort you are putting into this, it's highly appreciated!!

[@petergust3607]

These formulas really help. Anyone can find an example of a famous musician who doesn’t use theory or these types of planning structures. But that’s really rare, most people need the visualization before they can actually put writing into practice.

[@-_-GT350]

This helped a lot I was even able to apply some of what you said to rap music which was great , thanks for the help I really appreciate it !

[@TalesOfKrypton]

The comments that go flying off the handle, as well as off the topic, astound me: this is a great video lesson that gives developing songwriters structures and goals to gain experience, accomplishment and a sense of achievement. It also tears down walls of procrastination between the creator and the creation. But, ultimately, the structure described is a place to START, not a place to STAY.

[@simonconnolly8175]

"Don't bore us, get to the chorus" they say, seems like a little too long to get there for a pop song I think it's typically better to have the second verse be the 16 bar one but to each his own.

[@FidgetMDCCLXIV]

Here is my breakdown of songs by length. Abnormally short - 9:00 My songs would always have 3 verses. Every verse plus pre plus chorus is the exact same length. I nearly always have the third verse start when the song is about 55-65% finished. Especially when the song is quite long (5:45 or longer). My structure: Intro > Verse 1 > (Pre 1) > Chorus 1 > Verse 2 > (Pre 2) > Chorus 2 > Middle section (Bridge or instrumental or both) > Verse 3 > (Pre 3) > Chorus 3 > Chorus 4 > Outro

[@ayushthapamangar801]

tq

[@5ON5]

2023 adjustment ... subtract 60 sec on every unit u mentioned. average is now 2:15-3:00 ^^ it gettin shorter baby

[@FidgetMDCCLXIV]

@@5ON5 I'm including all the songs from the early days as well

[@MandyGriffing]

Video: Think of your 10 favorite songs. Are they any different than this? Me: yes

[@newemotionfm]

It's definitely a sound starting structure if you have no idea how to arrange. This will definitely create an acceptable flow.

[@jenicoj5377]

I rap and I tend to never really stick to just one specific formula, I write the song and use the formula that emerges from that This is helpful though for people starting out writing because it can be overwhelming at first not knowing what to do with structure so thumbs up

[@TheErow44]

Great content as always, I feel like your info totally shapes and reinforces the concepts i sort of already know and am working with to make me more conscious of them, for anyone who hasn’t heard of The Addiction Formula, its song writing gold 👌

[@alecpercy91]

I don't know if you know the guitar KZbinr Paul Davis, but you, your videos and the way you talk all remind me of him. which is definitely a good thing

[@williamronalds5426]

He specifically says that this outline is for beginners to use. I use this in many of my songs just for consistency - the less variables I have to worry about, the more I can focus on the aspects of my writing I want to improve. That is what this outline is for in my opinion, not some holy grail outline this person is trying to force upon you. So to make sardonic comments about the video is kind of useless with that in mind, no?

[@myselfbabarali]

Clear talk, Simple Way & Huge of Concepts. Even he didn't spoke his name.

[@drkstrnd]

*Structure of my favourite song?* Intro (Riff) Verse Breakdown Chorus (Riff) Verse 2+3 Bridge Clean Part Chorus ×2 *... I guess*

[@carriegould7560]

"Don't make your chorus bigger, make everything around it smaller" is probably the best advice in this video...... So long as you are making a type of song that even requires that the chorus be the hardest hitting thing, but keep in mind that a hard hitting verse can be just as good

[@ludlfmusic]

when he says "think of your 10 favourites songs, they're probably not different from this structure" and between those 10 ther're song like vicarious (tool), paranoid android and anesthetize (porcupine tree)

[@aceehrmantraut5602]

D128musïc

[@tomasoares]

Anesthetize follows a bit that structure (it's actually 3 songs with that structure with some larger bridges, intros, etc)

[@kylecoetzee2391]

Thank you kindly I don't think one single video has ever helped as much as this one. Bless you

[@lovebomnb]

*The structure of my songs are:* Intro Verse Pre Chorus Pos Verse Pre Chorus Pos Brigde Rap verse Break Chorus Outro

[@FatherjosephEspita]

This was rally explained so well because u simplified it while adding visuals to help me understand

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

Thanks, I'll make sure to avoid these steps in order to steer away from all that is pop

[@Holistic-songwriting]

Thingaloo Great :)

[@emmanuelabiodun782]

Lolz

[@donparkison4617]

Pretty much what Radiohead did after Creep.

[@MihaiSorohan]

Jacob Collier reharmonized songs in exact that structure and he's pretty far from pop. Just saying.

[@CesarDainezi]

Wow, you're soooooo undergorund! Can I be your friend?

[@apbweezle]

TIP: Study "stop loving you" by Toto.

[@silverplatinum5221]

I have been looking for a good beginner song writer tutorial for a while, and I finally found one, thank you, this helped a lot!

[@gersoncruz4570]

This is golden! The reason why i subscribed in the first place! Keep it up bro

[@Snowness]

I know I'm super late to the party here, but man. This info is still gold. I always find myself struggling to put together elements into an actual structured song, but creating a template is brilliant. Definitely going to be adding this to my template!

[@YourFavouriteColor]

this structure is not universal. it is a variant of verse chorus form, which is one of many standard forms(strophic, aaba, abac, verse refrain). within verse chorus form, you dont need a bridge necessarily(killing me softly), and in this case, the "late bridge" variant hes describing is not even really a bridge. it is more of a coda. this may not matter colloquially or to listeners but it matters to creators. bridges and codas function differently. the misnomer for the modern "bridge" is common language now, but structurally, it isnt a bridge. bridges "bridge" choruses together. "there must have been some magic in" is a bridge. "dasher and dancer and prancer and vixen" is a verse. "Rudolf the red nosed reindeer" is a chorus. Rudolf goes verse, chorus, chorus, bridge, chorus. "VAABA." modern verse chorus form is a mutation of these old fashioned tin pan alley forms. I digress. but it is important to know this rubric so you understand the fundamentals of form so you're not copying a template without really understanding why it pays off in the first place

[@philippquos2493]

I like to write from back to front. chorus 3 first then working forward to the intro. Helps me to set the dynamics in a song, eg. Chorus 3 the biggest sounding etc

[@EmiTheLoomistar]

Guy: So, here is this tool so beginners can start writing better songs. Every angry comment: BbUTT mUZIC iZ aAn AarT!

[@fazegregpaul3152]

I listened to an audio book of his and one particular thing that blew me away was his tremendous teaching ability.

[@leonardo9259]

Yo here in Mexico its ok to wear shoes inside

[@checoleal7769]

Octavio P. Una carnita asada o que primos ?

[@giulietta-1555]

Eew

[@cornstar1253]

Shoes are good. I don't like dirty socks

[@1stAirwave]

Yeah, that's cuz your outside IS the inside ! Build a wall.

[@leonardo9259]

@Octavio P. no jodas apenas vi el comentario, aún estás interesado en hacer rolas juntos?

[@Blocktob1]

This is by far the best video I have seen yet!

[@TrueGritProductions]

Great video. I found I am doing most of the things you mention already, but it's good to reinforce an already successful gameplan to stay the course.

[@RideWithTheWolf]

Thanks for a little structure. This video is for hit song writing. Like others have stated, there’s something about the organic aspect. While you can sit down and write a structured song, sometimes a good song just comes to you and it’s good the way it was originally written. This video can help you lay everything out and then you can edit. Essentially, there are songs and jingles and hymns that also make music enjoyable and there is no structure. It’s written on your soul. 😊

[@joacobosa]

Your favourite songs🤔 1. Dogs - Pink Floyd 2. Bohemian Rhapsody - queen 3. Roundabout - Yes 4. Pigs - Pink Floyd Do these have the structure? SURE....

[@ViniAndradeMusic]

I guess these are not really "POP" songs....... so

[@joacobosa]

@@ViniAndradeMusici mean the title has sufficient click bait lmao

[@ViniAndradeMusic]

@@joacobosa The problem with internet free classes is that you'll find a lot of things beginner to intermediate level. So, if you want more advanced things you will not find. =/

[@joacobosa]

@@ViniAndradeMusic that is very true, although i find this vid a little to pushy for modern audiences on what might the result be like. As of a PERSONAL opinion i find that you should learn by the hands of actual popular artists and see why they succeed. Its not the music, that is trash; its how social people are that really makes them popular. I always find that making music is not for myself, it is for the people instead, as if im giving some sort of service.

[@feeno1188]

Those are prog rock songs, what are you talking about?? And yes, they do have a structure. Maybe not a circular one but it is still a structure.

[@chickenmuffin]

When you said you made a logic template for free to download I literally said “what?!” Out loud because I was so impressed! LOL Amazing.

[@bipulpatar8231]

Thank you.. Can u do Michale Jackson Artist series plz

[@bushemilvas8830]

This is the definitely trick that I have been looking for years ago. Thanks.

[@sagarp2382]

You forget to put the arrangement links in the eye button

[@howtofinishasong9949]

Dynamics tips on point here! Don't just your chorus bigger, make your bridge just that bit smaller!

[@Cj-zx3en]

I didn’t know Johnny sins was a musician too

[@perfakee_3826]

😂😂😂

[@checkthenutz]

It’s startling how close math and art align. When studying poker(game theory math), as far as applying what we learn in simulations, always start with a very basic template that you can apply in real time, and layer in the complexity later. Less is more in this respect. Another way to think of this is; Don’t move fast, moving fast makes you sloppy. Sloppy is slow. Move slow, moving slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.

[@JaroAtry]

Nice job Friedemann! Do you plan to make Michael Jackson Artist Series?

[@Holistic-songwriting]

Jaroslav Keller not in the near future I'm afraid:/

[@gopilotmusic]

So much in such a short time! Thats the way I like...dang...who wants to hear someone go on for over an hour with a message that acn be delivered in a fraction of the time. Thank you! Superhelpful!