Do You Have a Smartphone Face?

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[@rin_08]

I’ll stay rocking the Nokia face 😎

[@christarkt8439]

Bro…😂

[@boodgie934]

I love my Android 14 face 🫠

[@BitchChill]

I'm getting tired of seeing attractive people

[@caitlink]

Getting tired of seeing all the reasons why I’m ugly

[@S0oama]

I laughed way too hard from seeing this comment. Thank you

[@lelekhaing4135]

Probably the best thing you can do to help with that is to turn off your phone.

[@notrealkawhi0053]

Have you been looking in the mirror a little too much😂

[@SquallSZ]

I know right ? 😂😂😂😂 i'm sick.

[@cmone5200]

I'm pretty sure "smartphone face" really just comes down to plastic surgery and other non-natural cosmetic practices. That's why most celebrities can't play in period pieces, because people in those days looked like everyday, normal people. Not the "perfect" and manufactured aesthetic we go for these days. Perfectly straight, white teeth with filler lips and microbladed eyebrows doesn't work.

[@kaitietheukulelelady5645]

So true. I'm imagining any period piece female with lip filler and its whimsical af haha

[@mar1nn998]

There are naturally hot people irl

[@KS-eu2vf]

@@mar1nn998 it has nothing to do with hotness as people from the past can easily be hot or even hotter had they revealed more skin

[@4ru-brawlstars111]

yeah definitely the eyebrows part

[@Lipanj92]

​@@mar1nn998 You mean yourself? 😅

[@MELLMAO]

Fan bin bin is the most smartphone face ever, asian smartphone face. She looks like every douyin filter available and has a look of every popular eastern asian cosmetic surgery. She is THE smartphone face. Directors aren't too concerned if you have the old timey look, just that you are pretty to look at

[@YourMotherForReal]

THANK YOU. My exact thoughts tbh

[@anyadarlingg]

Yes, I was thinking she might have gotten eyelids surgery, or potentially nose job, or jaw bone shaving. Don't know too much about Chinense culture specifically, but those are not uncommon procedures in most asian cultures.

[@rachel39321]

I was shocked when he said no because usually he’s pretty culturally competent.

[@BlueBlossomsBlues]

I think Quoves actually has a lot of own/personal assumptions he's trying to push for likes.. And even after so much analysis he still doesn't know what he's talking about...

[@kayleeyang3952]

It's bingbing

[@011mph]

fan bingbing definitely has a smart phone face! If you're familiar with chinese beauty standards they're not the same as american beauty standards. she fits so well into the definition of a moderm chinese beauty. not the face of an actual historic figure haha

[@hana-rv6ru]

i agree

[@stars-and-clouds]

I was thinking the exact thing

[@lvvvrr]

i assume westerners tend to define smartphone face as la influencer face and disregard more eastern beauty standards of today

[@mitsukikosan]

10000%-the v-shaped jaw, the huge eyes, the pale af skin are all tell-tale signs

[@judas1523]

yea she looks so plastic

[@lenab4637]

A factor that hasn't been mentioned is camera use + focal length. Our eyesight perceives people similar to aprox. 40-50mm lens. The typical phone is 26mm, which makes fat/wide faces look leaner. People with narrow/petite faces with petite facial features get cosmetic enhancements to exaggerate their features for the camera. Now the ideal is someone who has a voluminous and highly defined face which photographs well & looks good in stills while still also being lean. It's not that the old-school faces are unattractive, its just that they're not optimized for selfies. Isn't this what smartphone face is all about? As a side note, I actually think that it's a deliberate choice on Apples behalf to make the lens 18-26mm because it caters to the average face.

[@toad15fan]

Yeah, I thought the vid was going to be about that. Gracile, rounder shaped faces look worse in a selfie compared to robust, angular, and squared off shaped faces.

[@Sara-mr1hs]

I used to wonder why I look better in selfies...

[@judas1523]

we are talking about faces on tv and movies not on selfies… actors aren’t shot at that length… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@youngyongyung]

The focal length of a camera doesn't affect how facial features are distorted. The only thing that matters is the distance to the camera, if you have a 25 mm and a 50 mm lense for example, taking pictures with both and then digitally cropping the 25 mm one to match the 50 mm one, the pictures will look exactly the same. The choice for having fairly wide focal length is just because you can always zoom in (and most people won't notice the quality difference, especially now that main cameras have 40+ MP sensors), but obviously if the subject doesn't fit in the shot you need to use the ultrawide instead (which might just look worse). For portraits, most people's faces look best from 1.5 - 3 meters away, which a 50 mm - 100 mm lense would be much better suited for. But yeah digital zooms are quite good now with sufficient light.

[@nameless-ck3du]

@@Sara-mr1hs yall look better in selfies? ☠ i look as if i have a stick shoved up my ass

[@theonlycma]

While I believe that always looking down at a device could be affecting our faces, I feel like that was true in the past too… you lean down to farm, cook, read, embroider, play the piano… tons of things we’ve done historically have also involved that general position.

[@MELLMAO]

I agree 100%. It's all BS and speculation, people had even worse postures back then

[@y0ud0ntknwm3]

i agree, i also dont think that the "smartphone face" is really a thing because the thing is most historical dramas arent made so that the actors look realistic or anything. most have (somewhat) modern makeup and its hard to seperate an actor from their outside persona which also might be the cause of this in my opinion.

[@SRBOMBONICA86]

​@@MELLMAObullshit ,it's much worse today ,I see it in kids ,eye sight AND posture is horrific in young people ,also MUCH more neck problems

[@dhrsghukvfggrasft5387]

yes, but you now we don't only look down to cook, read, play the piano but also to look at our phone

[@PassionPno]

You don’t lean down to play the piano. You clearly don’t know proper posture at the piano.

[@Joe-bs6hd]

"Smartphone face" bro I swear this generation just keeps making up new ridiculous things.

[@iaminconstantpain9524]

It's like this new "hAiR tHeOrY" 🙄

[@MsKateC2K]

I think it's funny that you say Fan Bingbing doesn't have "smartphone face" because she basically redefined the modern Chinese beauty standards and almost every girl on Chinese social media looks like some version of her. She is very naturally beautiful however. Her features barely changed since early in her career but her styling has gotten a lot more modern. Also she was the main producer of the show Wu Zetian so of course she starred in the leading role

[@avantgurl]

I've been saying this for YEARS. Microtrends are to blame in my opinion lol

[@seriouspleasures]

MTE! There are trends that only ripple the surface, and there are the ones that run so deep we don't even recognise them as trends, that last for decades. [Here pretentious me began to talk about a passage in the end of Aldous Huxley's "Eyless in Gaza", but decided that would be classified as torture. 🤡]

[@alexare6655]

@@seriouspleasures eyeless*.

[@cryforthemoon]

Even before smart phones I thought a lot of actors did not look as if they could be living in the era they were portrayed to be in. It's more than just a face, it's mannerisms of modern life, pilates honed bodies etc.

[@theyellowbird]

Many historical dramas have inaccurate makeup and hairstyles too (in terms of historical accuracy), which cater to modern sensibilities/audience. that may also play a role in why these actors/actresses don’t appear “historical looking” even when in media based in the past.

[@rebssoley]

I think a large part of this phenomenon comes from the fact that the people we are comparing these model celebs to are north american. I would say that my friends who come from caucasian backgrounds (several gens living in NA/British/German ancestry) would look normal in western period clothes. As a mixed person - half middle eastern/half european, i most definitely have a "modern" face. I would look very out of place in Western style period clothes. However, If you look at pictures of Iranian/Greek/Turkish women from history, you'll pretty much see my face everywhere. So a "classic" face probably looks different depending on what country you're in. That being said, I think the reason we're noticing an increase in "modern" faces is that as time goes on, with more travel and immigration, people on the whole are becoming more genetically diverse. So more people, including those we see in the media, simply look different than they did 50+ years ago 🤷 and I think the kardashians are a prime example of this.

[@katm8128]

The kardashian mix of European/armenian has existed for centuries in our part of the world

[@miekox5387]

That's a great point

[@a.hopeful.rosebud837]

i would say i have smartphone face due to mixed asian, european, and mexican blood and highly racially mixed facial features. you simply wouldn’t have had commonly had this sort of mix that long ago

[@goodmorning2386]

Same here, since people would rarely have kids with people outside their race I’m very mixed too, Italian, Chinese, French, Russian, Irish and possibly Argentina too

[@kiuk_kiks]

Not true because a lot of those with “smartphone face” are monoracial. Truth is when people get cosmetic surgery for the same look, they look the same. The same fillers, buffaloes dad removal, jaw inserts etc makes for the same faces.

[@a.hopeful.rosebud837]

@@kiuk_kiks i’m definitely not saying that all smartphone faced individuals are mixed race, just that my mixed blood results in me looking modern and not like i could have come from all that many years ago

[@cryforthemoon]

Those mixes always existed around bordering countries, but they were not promoted because every countries media had an ideal of what was the ideal look of their people. Even today in places like China they promote one way of looking when there are actually very Caucasian looking Chinese people in the north.

[@kadenbrown6268]

There is no such thing as "Mexican blood" as the Mexican population is a spectrum of European, African, and indigenous DNA

[@ckblue154]

my interpretation of a smartphone face is that people are getting really bored nowadays so they come up with some terms to entertain themselves

[@MELLMAO]

Literally. Quoves just described smartphone face as both:chiseled highly surgical LA face and mouthbreather face that is somehow obtained by having a poor posture while looking at smartphone (inaccurate, your face shape can't change, and people were reading writing working and cooking in the same slumped pose for centuries)

[@Weesson]

Poor oral posture is affecting people’s faces more than smart phones.

[@drewzalo]

Very much this

[@PauliesWalnuts]

Wrong, oral posture (and smartphones for that matter) have almost no effect on facial development; facial structure is genetically determined.

[@infinityboom1842]

@@PauliesWalnuts ur so blind it's sad

[@manbha6817]

@@PauliesWalnuts 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@pingeee]

@@PauliesWalnuts stop making excuses to mouthbreathe

[@kento2771]

I think if you showed these people two faces from the same angle, same hairstyles, same clothing, color correction, and same makeup, nobody would be able to tell just from the facial structure.

[@BitchChill]

Yeah human faces aren't changing in the span of a few decades

[@glowtarot9331]

Of course they have! Fillers 🤣🤣

[@divinasi0n]

And same photographic/digital technology used.

[@JENIA_SH]

We are also more ethnically mixed today. Even in the past, only people with a certain appearance were on cinema, so I'm not sure that there weren't some who couldn't be seen as the smartphone -face , but the trends were different and people also looked different because there are characteristics that are stereotypically characterized with certain ethnicity people

[@baby.nay.]

I’ve lived in an area where like 80% of teens were from mixed race couples and that was 30 years ago , some places have been this progressive (in America ) for a long time and it’s funny that decades later white people think it’s something new cus they’re online not just being around othrt white people

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

I’m triracial, I’m so glad we’re letting people show how amazing we can be. I saw this buff bearded redhead Asian man, the world should know what his face looks like 🫃

[@BigV24]

also wanted to say those pictures of all the actors/celebs from the older eras were refreshing to see. they have their own charms in addition to having nice facial features.

[@baby.nay.]

Most had plastic surgery or had to pluck their hairlines out with electrolysis. No one was natural then it was absolutely ruthless

[@red_calla_lily]

The biggest difference I notice - in women - is the weird mismatch of features only made possible by cosmetic surgery. Straight out of uncanny valley. In old-time beauties, everything fits together. Marilyn Monroe is a bit on the heavier side - by today's standards - and has more facial and body fat, Audrey Hepburn is petite. Two totally different women - but their bodies and facial features just match. Nowadays, features don't match anymore like they would in nature. They've been exaggerated in a way that isn't natural, so the "smartphone-look" (modern) might as well be called "artifical look". The body is seen as a collection of parts instead of as a whole and uniqueness is not enhanced but erased. Instagram models have angular jaws and big lips like Angelina Jolie but they aren't her. Modern beauty is just a formula, pleasing to look at for everyone but forgettable.

[@moeaye3162]

You hit it right on the nail! Everyone is pretty on Instagram but extremely forgettable. That's why there is a trend of people being nostalgic for celebrities in the 90s. Not that they didn't have plastic surgery during that time, but it was nowhere as extreme as it is now. No one had the same face and what is stranger is people used to smile or be expressive for photographs. Now everyone does the same stoic pose so they don't look unsymmetrical in photos, which actually makes them look uncanny, unfriendly, and ultimately forgettable.

[@Dolphinboi]

@@moeaye3162you definitely think many poc or black ppl have the same faces. Only white faces are unique in u ppl’s eyes.

[@Dolphinboi]

@@moeaye3162It’s funny u care if other ppl don’t smile in fotos. For many years in the early 1900’s and before it was commonplace for ppl not to smile in fotos. Smiling isn’t necessary at all and anyone can smile if they want.

[@alittlebindi25]

Everyone looks similar these days, every "influencer" looks like each other. It's getting hard to distinguish between celebrities anymore. If you asked me to describe Kylie Jenner or someone I would be completely stuck. Edit - even celebrities from other cultures are beginning to blend into one another. I am Indian and so many people in Bollywood are beginning to have the same botoxy look.

[@Dolphinboi]

@@alittlebindi25 funny how u guy ignore the fact Marilyn and Angelina had multiple plastic surgery procedures done. Lips, jaw. nose..

[@subratafreelancewriter8504]

here is an interesting observation: in other parts of the world, you will see a lot more variations in terms of facial features. I am from India and typical LA style look isn't very popular yet here. I have traveled in other parts of Asia and yup, the pool of aesthetically pleasing facial features is very big. So, you want to keep in mind that too. I think the more international and hip a city/place is, the more smart phone faces you can see and local cultural preference is a massive factor too

[@sophiabreidfischer6242]

What you say makes sense. My father grew up in a rural area and always says how people used to look more different. People didnt have the time, money or interest in all grooming the same way.

[@anyadarlingg]

I think the biggest factor here is how easily accessible cosmetic surgeries are nowadays, and then the "ideal beauty" standards. If you look at girls in magazines/actors, you can tell they were looking for girls with softer features, and rounded eyebrows. And not everybody was getting nose jobs/eyebrow lifts/lip filler/botox. Also hair extensions and wigs have evolved so much. Contouring use to be done way differently as well. Nowadays I feel like they star actors that have nearly perfect everything- cheekbone structure and jawline. Which wasn't the same beauty standard as before for women.

[@adeliad5242]

I think it would be more accurate to separate Fan Bingbing from the rest. The Asian smartphone faces are very different!

[@Christian-gb8zf]

I think it’s that more “modern” attractive faces are ethnically ambiguous (or attempting ambiguous with surgery and makeup) In more “classic” beauty faces… most of them were very white or West African. Now there’s a lot more diversity represented by celebrity faces.

[@thickmint5875]

There's not though...that's the point. Everyone is trying to look like everyone else, so they all end up looking the same--and we call the result "smartphone face".

[@user-rt5hc9qn7i]

Maybe you’re just obsessed with mixed people. Most western celebrities are white and not mixed

[@Christian-gb8zf]

@@user-rt5hc9qn7i I don’t think I even know any mixed people personally. why do black people think everyone is obsessed with them? I work at a modeling agency, ethnically ambiguous is in rn.

[@Christian-gb8zf]

@@thickmint5875 yeah a lot of white people are getting surgeries to look less white and vice versa but the “look” is what’s gaining popularity. Think Nara Smith or Sophia Rich rn

[@spootnik00]

Also factor in more ethnic mixing something that rarely happen in the pass

[@BitchChill]

Ethnicity is different from race

[@BitchChill]

@@vwqwe-gh6td Like Arabs or Mestizos (The race that most Mexicans are). People consider them one different race, when in reality they're just mixture of different races

[@nickpavia9021]

@@vwqwe-gh6td I seriously thought this other Nick's comment was my comment for a second, and I was bugging out because I had zero memory of writing it.

[@obdiane]

I disagree with Tyson having a "Smartphone face", he's a model true, but he hasn't had any surgery and has looked pretty much the same(other than aging), since the 90s, way before Smart phones existed.

[@odette4059]

You should make a video on how the mm of camera lens affects how the face looks, and how film cameras somehow capture the feeling of life/depths of human features better than digital, which may be why pictures/videos of our parents/grandparents may appear more unworldly compared to us at the same age. Id use the example of the queens coronation in contrast to charles one for clothes, as the outfits for both events were more or less the same but charles’ coronation looked like dress up compared to the queens that looked magical. Or how movies on film captured more emotion/depths of the face than movies do today. You could even use models, how supermodels back in the day are perceived as better looking than the models today both in print and on runway even though makeup back then was worse. I think it’s an interesting topic that’s highly overlooked, as people don’t realise just how recently film went out of fashion (only like 20 years ago) but how big of a change it was

[@BigV24]

I'm glad they have a term for this LMAO I definitely associate it with IG more than the second possibility. Being recessed or having malocclusion is an unfortunate reality that could be influenced by smart phones but as your past videos show there's many more factors that contribute beyond that. However, getting specific procedures and styling to achieve a certain look is definitely something I associate with social media apps/platforms and smartphones by extension.

[@bonniebrown5102]

I have the opposite of a "modern" face and think I actually look WAY better times when I have worn Victorian or Mid-Century costumes. Used to bother me but I know the trend will turn around again soon. It's so silly that faces are trendy lol

[@clayr.w1829]

Sameee I also have the opposite of a “modern” face. I literally look like what an old woman from the 18th century named Gertrude would look like as a teenager 😂

[@irenekatona7856]

I think it’s cause they are beautiful but not “timeless beauty”

[@lucyhannah1227]

florence pugh is a good example of smart phone face, i can't take her seriously in a period piece which is a shame given her acting skills

[@MELLMAO]

Hard disagree

[@henloworld514]

be fr she just has a round face

[@xox6663]

Fr

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

@@MELLMAO right. doubt she has much PS

[@worm-bri]

no wayyyy poor take

[@seccio1503]

Just a thought away from the topic of the video. Many of the last videos sound too low, every time in every device I have to put the volume all the way up, in my phone and in KZbin, also on my PC, and even then it sounds too low.

[@ririimari]

Agreed

[@ludsayuri3847]

I noticed that some people has a ethereal appearance, looks like they are from other decade and then people who look modern and I feel like I fall into this category even tho i love vintage stuff 😂

[@bres.4806]

I feel this. I look pretty stupid in modern clothes. I can’t explain it but It just looks awkward. But when I’m wearing I would consider old fashioned or over dressed in modern terms it looks very natural. Like I’d have the 1940s-60s on lock if I existed in those times.

[@elisabeth4342]

Megan Fox looks so different compared to before. I think anyone can look photogenic with these smartphone shop apps. That's why these modern tools were designed and installed into these gadgets!

[@mynew6972]

It looks like she's addicted to plastic surgery. If you have a lot of money and see something in the mirror or photo that bothers you, you just fix it on the next stop to the doctor. And those influencers take selfies all day.

[@elisabeth4342]

@@mynew6972 Even gorgeous Megan Fox isn't immune to online criticism. She was very small-chested when she told television interviewers that intentional body shaming was rampant on social media - a couple of years ago. Now she's got big boobs.

[@lookaroundyou8108]

Smartphone face is the kind of face you see everywhere on social media... not a "modern face" With plastic surgery being more common everyone consuming social media wants to have similar face like the one they see getting the highest amount of likes and comments..

[@SquallSZ]

Confidence moment: i dont have a smartphone face but i have a radio face !

[@GameplayTubeYT]

Smartphone face doesn't exist. It's just a term for Gen z to have a caption /Topic to share on the internet

[@janesmith9463]

No offense to Gen Z, but they love giving things pointless/inaccurate names.

[@GameplayTubeYT]

@@janesmith9463 they also like to Ruin whats already establish for long time words like some pronoun.

[@approximately42ducksthatar79]

I have the opposite of a smartphone face. I look like a victorian era poor lady who either died at age 14 of tuberculosis or was burned at the stake for -reading books- being a witch

[@RealTalkWithSSG]

The typical smartphone angle for women on Instagram is, thicker lips, very narrow chin, high cheekbones, foxy eyes, and a vapid open mouth gaze, where the eye gaze look like they are half asleep.

[@zey8952]

I think it's all about the eyebrows and the face structure of course

[@harrylee9289]

As a Chinese. 95% of the faces you mentioned look like ghost to me. I like old style faces better. I think a smart phone face to me more like a sick trend of people who want to have thick lips, muscle-less faces, taned skin and funny eye makeups. And that Chinese model does have a modern style face. She isn't considered to have a traditional face by Chinese at all.

[@namkia205]

She also doesn't look chinese to me anymore probably because of plastic surgery :/

[@ninaalexiou6]

This Chinese model looks cute though

[@why5137]

as a black pereon i hate when y’all treat tans like trends

[@beepboopbaap2511]

In the case of Fan Bingbing playing a chinese empress in a drama, in fact in china, most 'historical' or 'period' dramas are not made to be historically accurate and take on a more 'idol' sort of appearance where the costuming and appearance of the actors is aimed to be very beautiful and appeal to modern tastes (this is probably the most obvious when you compare newer remakes of classic stories such as legend of the condor heroes) so I would argue that fan bingbing actually has probably one of the most smartphone faces simply because the is the standard of what an idol-esque cdrama should look like

[@amiavi2847]

I noticed about fifteen years ago that suddenly all the teen stars had a certain “look”-shorter faces with little round low-bridge noses and lips very close to the nose (short philtrum length). Maia Mitchell, Debbie Ryan, Selena, Miley, Emily Osment, Vanessa Hudgens. The longer and more “adult” faces of Ashley Tisdale, Lindsay Lohan, etc. seemed to be phased out, likely because the proportions of the newer actresses helped them look believably young for longer. The owners of this shorter faces grew up, lost baby fat, had work done and look a little different. But the impact of what a “popular” face is was changed. We now see shorter, squarer faces everywhere-strong cheekbones and jawlines are very “in” for women. Women are still sporting a bolder brow than in many decades past. It is these Disney faces and highly square ones I cannot easily believe as “Victorian” or of another time. Of course people with these features existed back then! But it wasn’t “everywhere” or a trend; now it seems a huge amount of the representation on screen of desirable women is really one type of beauty. Back then, it was a different ideal. Whatever the zeitgeist is will seem anachronistic when brought into another time period. When we see someone with the proportions deemed ideal during the Renaissance, we say they look like a painting. It’s all about what the beauty standard is at the time.

[@butter_nut1817]

As beauty has become commodified and commonly analysed it would make sense that faces become "optimized" to their aesthetics. So while the physical faces haven't evolved, the categorization and promotion follows an evolutionary sense.

[@lundi44]

Oh please, Farrah Fawcett would still be considered attractive by today's standards.

[@lanaraes7699]

would love a video on the math behind kitchener essences

[@shironerisilk]

I personally disagree about Timothee not being convincing as Henry V in The King. I think he fits very well with the medieval aesthetic and he actually looks good with that 15th century hairstyle. He also has that somewhat unconventional but still attractive look that makes for good aristocratic male leads in period/fantasy (more like lords and kings and less warrior, aka Tom Hiddleston, Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen etc). However, I don't like him in Little Women, he doesn't pass as a Victorian gentleman imo (neither did Christian Bale in the 90s one). I think a similar case of a modern looking boyish guy looking believable as a medieval king is also Alex Lawther as King Charles VI in The Last Duel, same vibe as Timothee in The King. The Last Duel however is has some good ''non smartphone face'' casting like Alex and Adam Driver as Jacques Le Gris but Ben Affleck as the count was so damn distracting. Matt Damon also doesn't seem like a good choice for period drama, also too modern looking.

[@immanuelcunt7296]

He does not pass for a warrior-king AT ALL.

[@ModernVintage31]

Matt Damon is the wrong choice for almost any casting 😂

[@lucyhannah1227]

It's funny you brought up WSS cos I always thought Natalie Wood had smartphone face depsite being born in the 1930s

[@Lampey22]

Today i learned that i don’t have a “smartphone face”, and i am loving it! I love my features that don’t fit our beauty standards. Looking like i don’t know what a smartphone is a win for me since i suck at technological stuff

[@alicec.6195]

In my opinion it has a lot to do with trends, style and cosmetic procedures. Also, if you pay attention to past trends (I mean really old ones) we can notice a lot of classic and romantic essences for women as the standard. I can mention Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly and Marilyn Monroe as examples. Nowadays is trending a more dramatic essence for faces in general. As a reference of what I am talking about, have a look at John Kitchener style essences. 😄

[@Myatheroses]

I think people back then looked better. They looked like real people with real beauty

[@onlyonSiMPLE]

i think its more about the style instead of the face structure itself

[@lanvywynn]

6:30 I lost respect and trust in your analysis when you concluded that Chinese actress Fan BingBing must NOT have a smartphone face because she’s often cast in period movies. In fact, she is cast so often in period movies because she has a modern plastic face referred to as a desirable snake face: a pointed chin, circular eyes, and elongated narrow nose to make the chin even more pointed. All you have to do is google ancient Chinese art to see that standard beauty was a moon face

[@acctacct8635]

Interesting thanks for sharing that

[@thickmint5875]

Nobody goes to a surgeon to get an "elongated nose" or "snake face" lol. Plus she doesn't even look like that. She's actually beautiful, not snake-like or witchy. And "circular eyes"- u mean tall eyes? In most of the world, douyin isn't a thing. I do think what is considered modern ("smartphone") actually varies by region. in the UK and the Americas, everybody tries to slant their eyes because our men dream of having an (East) Asian girl.

[@antiheroine3611]

Def voting on styling/makeup/fillers being the cause

[@canwejustnot]

I think it also helps that actors nowadays have more mixed roots, also in leading roles (which I think is really good!!!), whereas actors in the 20th century were mostly caucasian, with maybe a chinese or black person as a side character.

[@lavellans]

I don’t think poc ‘smartphone’ face should be necessarily judged with the lips because even back then many of us had that naturally. I see it based more on grooming style. Reminds me of those tiktoks where people dress their mom in today’s trends and she looks way different.

[@Prettypryde]

I love this channel❤

[@transcripttranslation8801]

Actual facial changes more likely due to progressively softer diet from infancy onwards, one that doesn’t challenge the facial muscles or help the teeth maintain correct spacing.

[@aery3854]

Hailey has a smartphone face in the literal sense- her face is rectangularly long and flat and has always reminded me of the iphone😅

[@Moon_Lando]

I was watching this video while taking a dump and forgot about the tea I left on the stove

[@rebeccaaliberti5053]

The casting choice of Keira Knightley in a lot of period drama / historic movies is not convincing for me because she has a modelesque look (both face and body), the high fashion type where the person kinda looks too skinny (she reportedly had anorexia in the past too). Her roles takes me out of movies because it's not believable that someone that skinny with visible bones would turn heads in the 17th, 18th, 19th century, people at that time would think she is ill. So of course I know that we can't respect the old standard at 100% in order to appeal to modern audience but there are a lot of options available : rather than a Keira Knightley looking actress they should pick an Emilia Clarke looking one (it's an example). Someone with a fuller face and body.

[@baby.nay.]

Most women would have never been able to afford to keep on any weight beyond Keira Knightley’s body type. I have her body type now, and I literally cannot afford to gain weight so imagine if I lived a couple hundred years ago.

[@tessy28]

​@@baby.nay. Wow never thought of it that way as a black woman with a naturally big ass and thighs. Some people literally CANNOT afford to gain weight. Poverty really does suck.

[@broomy143]

I'm about to walk around with my phone above my head now thanks!

[@thegalhorowitz]

basically old movies had more northern european features and people from asia and eurasia countries moved to US where popular movies where made much later… Similar to other big european cities. Mixing naturally created a more eurasian look anyways since more educated couples tend to have more blended families and larger genetic pool hence its correlation with attractiveness

[@nickpavia9021]

Source? I'm skeptical of the claim that highly educated people race mix more often. And what does level of education have to do with being attractive?

[@kat12.]

Aww this reminds me of when it seemed like lip fillers were starting to not be as trendy anymore. an alarming amount of people were saying “thank god, people will look normal again” and it really took me back to being a multiethnic person growing up in an area with a lot of white people. I was so self conscious about my full lips and if I pointed it out, some friends would agree that I shouldn’t wear bright colors because it would look clownish. Some of these examples remind me of that and make me so sad. There were a few people who you said had a smartphone face, but they’re just not white. I agree that people like Kylie Jenner and Megan Fox have a smartphone face, but I think this filler/plastic surgery face is more social media face? And social media face is picking and choosing what other ethnicity's features you want. I don’t have a problem with that, but it’s disappointing to hear that someone would call features that naturally occur for whole groups of people are smartphone features and not features that could smoothly fit into period pieces.

[@ruiqi22]

People saying Fan Bingbing has smartphone face haven’t seen her in My Fair Princess! She looked very classic as Jin Suo without the 2010s heavy brow makeup and defined red lip.

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

young brooke shields kinda had a smartphone face too. its specific facial features.

[@janesmith9463]

That picture on the left of the screen is not straight out of 1973. It's straight out of the movie Almost Famous from the year 2000.

[@Lina_92_]

I feel like some of it has to do with different beauty standards. Especially when comparing photos of actors or models back in the day to now. We only really see a certain type of look because what is available to us from that era is very narrow and fit the period. We have different beauty standards now

[@rosethorn0232]

I expected this video to be about people who look good in selfies. So basically they have a wider face in real life, so the distortion (narrowing) created by selfie cameras actually make them look better than they really do.

[@katherine2547]

It’s all about styling choice and plastic surgery/enhancements that just don’t look natural (with respect to proportions and overall facial harmony). Looking at all of the faces in the beginning, I could see them all as either classic or modern depending on how each were to be styled. And cosmetic surgeries weren’t available nor nearly as popular until relatively modern times, so of course, you can force yourself into the modern lane only when you undergo procedures that don’t respect your natural facial proportions, and create this unnatural look. Like no one would believe someone with clearly overfilled lips was born in the 1800s lol

[@mirahogwards_art]

I think it also has to do with the fact that every era from the past had its own Beaty standards for the “perfect face” so there were more models and celebrities who looked a certain way, and so we’ve come to associate every era with a certain face type, when, in fact there were probably always “smartphone looking faces” but they just weren’t really highlighted in the media. Plus, there is such a thing as Kitchener’s “facial essences” for example: Classic, romantic, ethereal, gamine etc. Right now “romantic” is all in, and I would argue that it is quite modern looking, when if we look at some celebs from the 1940s there is a lot of “classic”, timeless looking faces. I think that actors who have classic/ethereal in their faces are best fit for period dramas

[@RandomPerson-bc6td]

I think it's also because how artworks from the past didn't exactly portray how those people looked like. Most of the people who could afford to get a portrait painted were the rich. They would tell painters to make them better and fit the beauty standards of the time. We're so used to seeing paintings of people with full and fleshy faces that a chiseled jaw like Timothee’s seems off despite him looking archaic. 😊

[@Azucarcontilde]

Is even the asumption that 'faces are different now' true? Maybe we think that only because the beauty standards were different so movies had people looking according to the past beauty standrards, and now we're only exposed to this different beauty standard that highly relies on surgery, make up, and other modern factors

[@toecutterjones]

Drag queens made contouring modern, not the Kardashians. They just made it mainstream.

[@jl453]

DNA as well. People usually stayed in the same areas that they grew up in and married the people that they associated and were around more. Also,nutrition and diet. Very few people had refrigerators and ice so the need for buying foods daily with no long term storage,not alot of chemicals in foods then either. People walked and took trains more because of necessity and there were more manually laborious jobs then so there was more of a fit population. Grooming and styling I agree with,but it's just a tip of the iceberg with the reasons as to a more modern face.

[@ivyrose779]

So, lay down to play on my phone? Got it!

[@sophiabreidfischer6242]

This was interesting yet is still very subjective

[@daddyethan]

I think I have a smartphone face in the first way but that's mainly due to being mixed tbh

[@wolftownesque]

i got that smart phone posture reading books tho 😂

[@yh10fficial89]

Can you do an analysis on NewJeans's (KPop) members?

[@cayennepepah]

I think this one you got it wrong. Bingbing is certainly a smartphone face at least in the Asian’s standard. More and more actress/entertainers cut their chiseled/square jawline and turn them to be more V-shaped; not to mention the massive plastic surgery mostly centered in enlarging features to be have more westernized look.

[@ifyouknowyouknow6964]

I think is more than just make up or fillers, I believe it’s also the fact that we see the same people copying the same mannerisms and facial expressions. If sleeping on one side of your face can cause wrinkles and mouth breathing can change face shape then how can not changing facial expressions and mannerisms contribute to changing faces ?

[@happystar7777]

Always thought it was just the fact that people are a lot more mixed now.

[@bigboipeepee]

headphone warning 1:30

[@BlackArcs44]

Terrified me

[@boardstock2119]

How do you reverse the physical affects of a mouth breather face? I'm aware of mewing but I just don't think it'll make a strong enough difference. Ive gotten two top teeth removed to push back my protruding mouth but I feel like that wont reverse the mouth breather look. Is there any cosmetic surgery to help?

[@FanGirl9463]

Anything to do with orthodontic work, just look into.

[@inuhundchien6041]

Stop mouthbreathing? Get hay fever injection or whatever it is that will stop you breathing from your mouth. When I was young my nose is a total failure but when I started primarily breathing through my nose (in adulthood) my jaw get better and better.

[@poech2pep271]

Jaw surgery, genio, Rhino and cantophexy

[@crysales3667]

My face changed a lot with mewing from age 16-19, maybe it's also genetics for sure

[@pingeee]

jaw surgery

[@certified_l0ser]

I feel like most people can be a smartphone face and old timey face

[@berthomahendra1146]

i think vsauce also talk about this phenomena. really funny term tho, smartphone face.

[@seasonalien125]

I feel like smartphone face can also just mean "mixed race" sometimes, because old-timey social groups were more geographically isolated from each other and starkly separated in terms of social class. the same reason why historical dramas only really feel realistic if everyone in them very clearly looks like they're part of a particular "people"

[@rosewillow5757]

I definitely have a vintage face

[@asparagusmichy5611]

the iphone face is a robot trapped in a stoat's body

[@robynblocker5356]

A huge part of it is just that some features the public generally finds very attractive nowadays were considered unattractive in the past, so today's stars wouldn't have been cast in films back then at all -- at least not as the main stars. One of the blond male models in the video looks like he'd be cast as the youngest soldier in a 1950s war movie who looks up to the main male character and ultimately dies. He wouldn't be the hero because they'd have seen his overall vibe as too "weak" and "young," lol.

[@milkyshakes]

Top news: modern people look modern because of their modern grooming choices unlike the flim flam of the old days

[@laurenlerma9360]

What is the difference between smartphone face (the 2nd given definition) & people that like to read books?

[@nickpavia9021]

Nobody spends the majority of their waking hours reading a book. Let's be real.

[@ThePipojp]

​​@@nickpavia9021100 years ago It wasn't super uncommon

[@LadySilence]

Hmm Idk about this one.

[@baby.nay.]

Same reason the teens today think they’re pulling off 2002, but the textures and nuances are all wrong. This has everything to do with make up, camera focal length, film quality versus digital video quality etc. even hair treatments and methods of prepping skin for the screen have changed over time. Almost famous was filmed at a time when people had cell phones btw 😂 the film was shot on 35 mm panavision cameras . I don’t think it looked like 1973, but they tried . I think if you go to art school and really study, you will understand how to re-create some thing in it’s exactitude. Do you know how many. Halloween costumes I’ve seen that just didn’t look right because someone refused to not wear winged eyeliner with it.

[@lovelylittlegirl3332]

Fan bingbing does have a smart phone face. She looks very modern

[@leiluv]

I have a renaissance face

[@brigittaschultink8510]

I have the smartphone face naturally..i have mixed parents..my mom Is asian and White.. my dad is from Aruba and White....... so i have the big lips and nice jawline from my dad and tan ski tone.. i have the amandel long eyes , Tiny nose , high cheeckbones from my mom !! And bescause my both parents are half White.. i got the light eyes !!! Sow..it is really because i'm mixed race 💯

[@lotussong1]

Not really. Maybe when I was in my teens or early 20’s, but now that I’m over 40, not so much. Despite my best efforts, my face and body still look noticeably heavier. However, I refuse to get plastic surgery. I can’t afford it anyways. Not to mention the health risks and pain. I’ll stick to skincare, diet & exercise, cosmetics etc.. I wouldn’t get Botox, fillers, and injections either. I’ll stick to non-invasive methods, thanks.

[@franz3810]

you ate perfect just the way you are.

[@lotussong1]

@@franz3810 Thanks 🙂

[@Toxic_Femininity]

5:25 why you got 2 pics of Megan Fox 😂