Do You have to Sacrifice Ecology to Make Money + An Interplanting that Didn't Work

Welcome to episode 11 of Growers Daily!
We cover: does stress cause gray hair, the problem with fixating on wins as a soccer coach, balancing ecology and profit, and it's Messy Monday.
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[@sc-dw6gt]

Our large-ish homestead garden includes a habitat strip/hedgerow of native trees, shrubs and flowers along one side (hedgerow about 150x10, garden about 150x30, in-ground beds). The hedgerow is backed by a 4' stone retaining wall. We've not killed (or repelled or otherwise disrespected) any insect in the garden on purpose since 1975 and, contrary to what people think that means, we simply do not have any appreciable amount of insect damage to our (yearly tons) of crops (tho the neighbors do). An important feature of our hedgerow, in my opinion, is that is has no pathways (and a stone wall behind it), so things that hide there for refuge are UNDISTURBED all year round. People often imagine they are creating a "habitat," but I say, if you can walk around in it, then it is a habitat for people, not for insects---they really need places where they can be LEFT ALONE (have I said it enough?) In our experience, creating balance is key to having good relationships with insects in your environment. For us, that begins with being non-adversarial---we have no "pests" at all, and we do not use that word in out garden communications. When we were young, people thought we were crazy and that we would eventually learn our lesson . . . well, we have.

[@aaron_brown7324]

I coach my son’s Little League team, and it has ended up being one of the most fulfilling experiences I’ve ever had

[@StephanieSomer]

Happy Birthday!!! Currently in Chesapeake, VA, but soon to relocate to near WV/KY border area.

[@merrygirl592]

Gardening from NYC. Love how nerdy your channel is! It's so informative and offers an abundance of food for thought (and trial). While not all of your content is applicable to my life right now, I'll be storing away all the bits of info like a squirrel for future use. I appreciate how thorough and clear the topics are presented. Thank you for the segues and bits of humor as well. Breaks up the melancholy when I think about everything going wrong with my garden...and the world.

[@k.b.mangawang4698]

Listening while washing eggs from 3k hens. From NH 👍 keep on keepin on GG nerds

[@sable4980]

Very good point about coming down on hard farmers about plastic use vs all the places bigger corporations using them needlessly! Appreciate the reminder about dogma, mine and others. It’s usually pretty annoying too. Shout out from the Olympia, WA area! Our farm social media in the works. Thanks for all the content and demonstrating how to do this without bein too serious.

[@laurahigdon5353]

Hi Jesse, Listening to you and loving your new show from up in the very NW corner on the Olympic Peninsula Washington, in the little town of Quilcene. Just a 3 acre homestead we started in 2021 with goats and chickens. Now farming/gardening in steep, terraced beds on a south facing slope, overlooking the bay. The problem became the solution. I love that saying and apply it daily around here! 🌱

[@HeatherNaturaly]

Back when I was half your age, the world packaged groceries in paper bags. The ecologists started screaming that we were killing all the trees to make the paper bags so we were FORCED BY LAW to convert to plastic shopping bags to 'SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT'. Ironic, huh?

[@Luca-hc6wo]

I wonder if it really was the ecologists. Likely the push came from fossil fuel corporations, who have profited hugely in our plastic addiction

[@bernardcribbins7083]

It is. However the inventor of the plastic bag intended them to be used many times over. It's just that people were never incentivised to do this, and thin bags were cheaper for supermarkets to give out than more durable ones. Hence the environmental disaster of single use plastic bags.

[@craigmatheson2736]

Bringing your own bags: Check and see if there's a Kroger chain store or equivalent near you. As you use your own bags you get more points towards $.10/ gal up to $1.00 off on your next (up to 30 gallons) gasoline purchase. Here in New Mexico, USA, it's Smith's Sood and Drug store.

[@KokoraLife]

Love the discussion of balancing ecology and profit. Thanks!

[@Rootcraft_UK]

On the wildlife question. As a flower farmer loosing so much produce to deer and rabbits mid season. I went all out, with stock fencing, electric wires and chicken wire. It seemed to work. However, by design, I have also excluded foxes, badgers, maybe some rats and possibly some snakes. I realise now after a season of heavy rain, I have created a refuge for slugs. They are overwhelming. That sucks.

[@h.sinclair]

There is an organic product from Monterey called Sluggo, CaliKim recommends and I am about to try it... just in case cheers

[@johanna2258]

Really enjoying these podcasts! Thank you from Tucson, AZ

[@outliergardener]

Happy Birthday Jesse! Thank you so much for sharing your approach to coaching. I’ve already implemented a couple of the tips you mentioned in a previous video 🙏🤗🎂

[@Psa141]

Interesting that the Rockefeller coined words 'fossil fuels' are still being used. Reportedly, grey hair results from selenium deficit. Like your experimental gardening and exploring ways of growing combinations. Some latest suggestions: excentuating what grows well in your area and paying attention to what weeds are telling about soil needs. All is created and given for our use, when we actively seek the cues. TY for sharing your cues.

[@deborahcornell5304]

Happy birthday, love your channel. Take care and GOD bless.

[@MorePranaGardens]

Happy 42! Welcome to the year of 'whatever you want it to be'!

[@KevinGale]

Listening on the roads around Chicago and watching from Valparaiso IN.

[@johngooding8889]

I didn't double seed but when I up potted my tomatoes I also pricked out alyssum and added it to that pot as well. So when I transplanted my tomato it already had an alyssum flower with it. I found that the tomatoes did just as well as the others that didn't have the alyssum.

[@denisekelley2292]

I am in my late forties and have had bits of gray hair for about ten years. I call them my free silver highlights. I have embraced the gray and like it now. Thank you for coaching kids, mine are young adults now, the couches they had growing up were great positive adult influences. Team sports are so good for kids. I'm watching on KZbin (no other social media), yep, I'm that old. I'm in St Helens, Oregon (NW corner, on the Columbia River).

[@coleenstowell9643]

Would love to see a discussion about the need for darkness. I always thought more light will make bigger better plants (talking about starts and transplants). Then I found out that letting your plants have un-interrupted darkness too is essential for their health. This is also a consideration for security lights at night.

[@rickthelian2215]

In Australia we have no single use bags at the supermarkets, buy bags that you advertise the supermarkets but you reuse, brown bags 5kg limit be for they break 15 cents each. or nor stronger ones $2 above, bring them with you next time😊

[@achang8599]

Happy Birthday, Jesse!

[@ThinkLittleFarm]

my gray beard hairs are some of my most prized possessions. shoutout to the early forties.

[@dwightyoder4883]

Lots of helpful ideas, even for way down South in Mobile, Alabama. 1,500 sq ft of front yard gardens is all I have. Anything that helps maximize productivity is great.

[@dehaakbaak3511]

Here in the Netherlands we have to pay for plastic bags. So pretty much everybody brings their own bag(s).

[@martynwrench9542]

Made up a scare crow with my step daughter and 5yr grandie this weekend for my grandies school comp lifes good dude !

[@rickthelian2215]

I went to the supermarket today, I did a walk around the vegetable department,just for quality control, I saw 1kg Carrots dated best before in 2 days, I saw in the bag black marks on some of the Carrots, thankfully I try to from my own carrots and balance and freeze them.😊

[@douellette7960]

It'd be very interesting to know where your most loyal viewers are located. I'd think that'd be valuable info for any serious content creator. I don't know if there's any value for creators to share that info. But I've always wondered what specific areas of the US and rest of world are tuning in to you on a regular basis.

[@sc-dw6gt]

we're in silver city, new mexico, at 6,000 feet elevation adjacent to the Gila Wilderness (where it hasn't rained a drop since August and today is 88 degrees . . . )

[@rickthelian2215]

Kentucky Composting Conference, would be great in the view from a University, the one in January in phoenix looks more industrial with machinery etc. If you could take some video with your mobile would be interesting to watch, being in Australia.

[@maryhysong]

Grey hair; I wonder if there isn't also a nutritional component; in livestock like goats and horses, a copper deficiency often starts showing up as a lightening of the coat color

[@homestead.design]

Mandatory bringing bags to the store is MORE plastic pollution/production, you'd be shocked to learn how many single use bags worth of embodied energy (plastic) are in a single use bag. Often thousands. So any mandate to replace dozens or hundreds of single use bags with re-useable ones will result in m ore total plastic production tonnage. Unless of course we can compel people to make they're bags from non-useable clothing etc, and then of course to use them thousands of times. But to your point there might be a benefit to ones immediate environment with a little less single use plastic pollution blowing around in the wind. But the cost will likely be way more plastic by volume, in the home.

[@catreeves963]

Hi from New Zealand ❤

[@aileensmith3062]

Kudos and the kids developing their skills. Once that is done the "winning" will come easier. Where we live, New Mexico, plastic bags are no longer given in Santa Fe. Other towns.cities/municipalities are considering doing that as well. We do get plastic bags however we do find ways to use them for "free" as opposed to purchasing more. We also made a small yearly donation too ................. Life is good!

[@craigdawson7632]

NZ banned plastic supermarket bags a while ago. Still have plastic food packets though. We still do other really harmful things that make no sense. Sprays & products are banned in other countries

[@yellbyful]

some of the silly things like spraying weeds with glyphosate, its banned it so many countries

[@craigdawson7632]

@@yellbyful We have much worse than that on mushroom growing substrate & fruit trees

[@dantaylorable]

Thanks!

[@brokenmeats5928]

I love ALL No-Till Growers videos!

[@timbushell8640]

Carry your wallet and a bag or two... Add some perennial strips (and or edges) across the plot, and increase the diversity there. And love the 'dogma' on dogma... re the tilling of soils. Clear and definite pragmatic view. Pure KZbin listening/viewing...

[@davidpenfold]

As a Tranmere Rovers football fan, winning is a distant memory 😢🤣

[@LittlePetieWheat]

1). You need to pause natural succession to grow vegetables. 2). People did just fine for 200,000 years without money. Money was invented as a tool to subjugate, and it still is.

[@Rootcraft_UK]

Yeah, I’ve heard about that one, however, I think I’m going to try with nematodes initially.

[@hoosierpioneer]

I miss Kitty's cameo appearances.

[@daphnemarch7040]

I’m watching from a place called Kurri Kurri inland from the east coast of Australia 🇦🇺. Enjoy butchering that place name. Well it’s pretty hard to you just say Curry Curry. It’s an aboriginal name meaning: first. I don’t get why. We are surrounded by coal mines and vineyards which is a strange mix but that’s Australia for you. I’m not a market gardener just a home gardener who dreams of a no-till organic flower farm. We are bracing ourselves for what promises to be an unusually hot and dry summer. Add to that the expected winds and we will get a lot of what I call “hairdryer days”. Temperatures over 42 or so degrees Celcius with harsh wind and the constant threat of bushfires. I forgot to say we are also surrounded by eucalyptus scrub, the leaves of eucalyptus have highly volatile oil and they have a habit of bursting into flame before the forefront and flying kilometres ahead, to land on unsuspecting land, houses and businesses, just to share the love. So greetings from Australia and thanks much for keeping us informed. Six months ahead. Or six months behind depending how you look at it. Cheers.

[@lydiamyriel]

Desde Guatemala 😊

[@ml.5377]

I almost died giving birth to my daughter...went in with full brunette hair and came out with a fancy grey streak of hair... Marie Antoinette Syndrome?

[@notillgrowers]

Whoa! Also so sorry about the traumatic birth!

[@ml.5377]

@@notillgrowers Actually, I cannot say that I felt it to be traumatic for me as it was for the family. I was calm, at peace and very logical about it, considering the fact that I had to be awake during surgery and was talking like a chatterbox. I look in the mirror and my hair reminds me of so many things...

[@dustinsmith3738]

Cincinnati!

[@larrystrayer8336]

Mississippi.

[@OddoFelacio]

choose ecology money is dead

[@craigmatheson2736]

Cilantro and lettuce: Before you plant "Google" companion planting before putting your seeds down.

[@notillgrowers]

I mean, sure but also keep in mind that most companion planting guides I’ve seen are based on almost no actual evidence. It’s a lot of the same ideas regurgitated over and over

[@novampires223]

Portland?My home town area..😊

[@lambsquartersfarm]

Commentary on plastics is difficult to hear. The 'we're too hard on farmers, look at these industies... " that's a politicians trick. Why should we be better when they are worse. Ugh... what percentage of our brain is made up of microplastics now? How are we ingesting them? Should we look at our food? Are farmers to blame, or Lego?