Do you modify new tools? Schaublin Ep.40

[@squelchstuff]

I'm ok with a bit of random stuff here and there. Sometimes it's overlooked just how long certain jobs take such as adjusting that gib, and finding the binding cover etc. Finding that dink after needing to make room for the depth gauge was serendipitous. Anyway, I for one do recognise that you have a day job, and making videos for our entertainment takes time, so whatever content you do produce, is always welcome. It's part my Sunday routine after all.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for your very kind feedback. I sure helps.

[@mangoco10]

One of my mates and I have a saying, "If it's not worth modifying, it's not worth having!!". Bloody engineers we always think there's a better way. Our other non-eng friends say "you can't polish a turd", he'll never understand the joy of making something even better but we'll forgive him. Keep up the great work, I'm a fan

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for the feedback. I dont like mucking around with junk tools (says they guy who spend a year polishing a turd lathe), but those clamps are nice, forged parts .

[@wizzie2k]

I can't exactly put my finger on what makes your videos, in all their randomness, so darn awesome, but they are and it's always a highlight of my day to watch them! Thanks a lot and keep them coming.

[@RotarySMP]

Glad you enjoy them. That makes all the randomness worthwhile :)

[@bostedtap8399]

Great video, yes, I occasionally modify newly purchased items, obviously mainly due to my exact requirements not being met. Nice job on slide adjustment, great find on damaged cover, interesting how the music changed from classical to Spanish. Lol.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for the kind feedback.

[@Ryan-dz3jo]

All the best, random footage was enjoyable with good music.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanksfor your support on that.

[@LesNewell]

I have a bit of a reputation for modifying new tools and other items. One of my more egregious examples was probably replacing the engine, complete drive train and suspension on a vehicle that had done a grand total of 50 miles from new.

[@RotarySMP]

Wow, that sounds expensive.

[@iNerdier]

Enjoying the mix of problem solving and fault finding in this. Much more interesting than something just going together perfectly first time. What variety of chillis are you growing?

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks. These are Jalapenos, but they are very (too) mild for my taste.

[@cavemaneca]

@@RotarySMP just go straight to growing ghost peppers! Seriously though they have a great taste and a little will go a long way.

[@RotarySMP]

@@cavemaneca I dont need super hot, but these are just too mild.

[@Gin-toki]

Yeah I've modified a lot of my tools if they don't fit for my purpose, even brand new ones. (I of course always ensure they work as intended before modifying so I don't break any warranty unnecessarily) Also I like your random videos :)

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

good video rotary smp

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks. I found it a bit too random :)

[@TheZzziggy]

Can't imagine #1 fan missed that fire show!

[@RotarySMP]

He is on vacation. He'll see it soon enough.

[@KoenKooi]

I’m firmly in the clamp-the-guide camp, but that’s because I only use it twice a year or so. Overconfidence has ruined too many of my projects :)

[@RotarySMP]

I have little faith in friction for alignment :)

[@tonyray91]

. I borrowed my friends rail saw and bought my own a few days later. Yes commercially made tools are often a starting point for something better.

[@RotarySMP]

Right on

[@LesNewell]

I've adjusted the gibs on a few CNC machines and I just disconnected the motor and manually turned the screw. It's pretty much like you'd do it on a manual. You can fairly easily feel when the gibs are starting to get tight. It never even occurred to me to disconnect the screw.

[@RotarySMP]

I couldn't get a decent feel on this, but in hindsight that might have been that dented cover binding.

[@graealex]

@@RotarySMP dented cover was the imposter

[@RotarySMP]

@@graealex Lucky I found that. I would never have gotten it well adjusted otherwise.

[@Frankooo79]

When adjusting a gib I always use a dial indicator to check for play. Adjust untill there is no play, then a tiny bit more. Nice video as always! This lathe is turning out very nice.

[@RotarySMP]

Do you mean side to side play? I tried that, but since I didn't scrape this machine, there is a bit of wear in the ways.

[@Frankooo79]

@@RotarySMP yes side to side. Measure on the tight spots.

[@RotarySMP]

@@Frankooo79 Thanks, I had a little motion there.

[@jimurrata6785]

I *absolutely* purchase tools where my sole intention is to hack them for other purpose.

[@RotarySMP]

Nice to hear. :)

[@manuelcuesta7072]

I like the guitar music that you choose the videos quality is increasing by each of them

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for your feedback on that. It is difficult to find a middle ground with music.

[@mftmachining]

I use those Scheppach clamps and they work fine for me. The Rail does not need so much clamping force. Over 10 Years in use now and never had an issue.

[@RotarySMP]

I was surprised that they cost the same as the forged Makita ones, that is why I didn't buy them.

[@amok42]

I bought a 1"1/4 spanner an got on it with the grinder first thing to make it a tight fit on the 36mm Mercedes fan nut.

[@RotarySMP]

Nice!

[@rbyt2010]

a. Modify new tools - always!! Often straight out of the box ;) b. Bandsaw is definitely the right tool for that job. That said, I'm surprised the track saw did so poorly with a fresh blade. I've made similar, full depth, cuts in rock maple with my smaller Fes with great results (not because the Fes is magic). The pattern of your burn marks is suspicious. Your saw has a riving knife to keep the kerf from closing on the blade, right? I (usually) use clamps, but not on warped and twisted boards. I'm wondering if your track is being twisted out-of-plane and twisting the saw/blade in the kerf. c. your going to want that scrub plane to flatten that top :) Thanks as always for the video!

[@RotarySMP]

I think that blade is pretty blunt. I did abuse it cutting up a 4 cyl head for scrap alu :)

[@rbyt2010]

@@RotarySMP …or that :)

[@pkralla]

I have same clamp, made the same change, ginded mettall place will starts to rust, add something to protect against rust! Cheers!

[@RotarySMP]

Good point.

[@jimurrata6785]

Perfect opportunity for DIY copper or nickel plating. I like citrate over acetate solution myself.

[@RotarySMP]

@@jimurrata6785 I dont have a severe rust problem in my basement, so I'll probably just give it a quick spray with a silver rattle can.

[@tahwnikcufos]

11:39 To answer the question; typically no... and it's flat out prohibited at work: buy new, have it made, make it in the shop. Now nibbling at something that won't see a ton of force and no one will ever notice the change/improvement; do what you gotta do to get it done.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@tahwnikcufos]

@@RotarySMP Welcome ;-)

[@MarionMakarewicz]

Oh, that's interesting. The only Zurn company I know of is proudly displayed on the plumbing fittings for the urinals in public restrooms. Wonder what was originally in the box.

[@RotarySMP]

It took a while to understand what you saw. That was on the box from Andy wasnt it.

[@jster1963]

Cool technique on setting the gib! And I was wondering about the saw. It seemed to be burning the wood apart, LOL. Great video, great fix on the clamp, and great story about your dad. He sounds like my dad;-)

[@RotarySMP]

Hi Jasper, Maybe using that saw blade to chop up a 4 cylinder head for the alloy, was suboptimal :/ Shame you left Chicago, I'll be there for a couple of days at the end of Sep.

[@jster1963]

@@RotarySMP That would dull a blade, LOL! You're going to love Chicago. You can do anything. I'm going to be in the country while you in the big city. Let me know when you get in town.....

[@RotarySMP]

@@jster1963 We had a couple of days in Chicago in 2017 as well. Cool city.

[@AlmostMachining]

Great progress! Thanks.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks.

[@stefanhertweck]

Oh, I see new OSHA approved safety shoes :) ... The tip to measure the gib depth was very good. Hope to see the Schaublin running soon :) Greetings, Stefan.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks Stefan, me too.

[@unclehunty]

You can run those woodchips through a blender to make them more dust like. Then oven or microwave dry them. Should stay lit longer. You can light both ends for more smoke.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks. This time I packed them in more tightly, and they stayed lit and burned for at least 6 hours.

[@jdmorgan82]

I’d look into a new blade for the track saw. It should do much better than that. Also, I feel like that bent cover was a kick in the pants after all the work you put in.

[@RotarySMP]

Yeah, or have my mate sharpen that blade on his saw machine.

[@marsniper27]

Could use some of that cherry for smoking too.

[@RotarySMP]

Yep, already collected up a bag for that purpose.

[@anmafab]

The best thing you can do withthat Scheppach saw is change to a good quality thin kerf blade like Diablo. You need to adjust the arbor to allow the new blade to clamp but it's a 5 minute job on the lathe

[@RotarySMP]

I normally use a nice Bosch blade, but it is a fine toothed one, so for ripping I put the coarser one back on. But seems it is too blunt, and probably still too many teeth.

[@Fabio_Fernando]

i'm indeed a fan

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for your support.

[@RambozoClown]

You could always build a CNC smoker.

[@RotarySMP]

For precise application of flavour.

[@ninjaed13]

If this was This Old Tony there would definitely have been a gag label of some kind in the powder drawer at 15:35 :P

[@RotarySMP]

Yep, Tony is a master of the gags.

[@tiagolomar]

Great job…happy to see that I contributed with something👍

[@RotarySMP]

You did, that worked well. Thanks.

[@notsonominal]

Was that the hardware equivalent of a Heisenbug?:P

[@RotarySMP]

Yeah :)

[@theinfernalcraftsman]

A little late in watching... I got the chance to get out of 105* Texas and up north to 80* and cooler weather for a few days. Took all day to fly home as flying standby is fun this time of year. As for modifying tools I do it all the time. You can always male something better or make it do what you need it to. Those Steppach saws were sold in the US for a very short time and I missed out on buying one cheap. I did all of our kitchen cabinets out of Cherry and the doors in craftsman style joint. And working on plans for our trip to Naxos at the end of September. Going to stay in Koronos or Apeiranthos a few days then back to Naxos city. We don't get to stay as long as we would like as Americans don't get a month of vacation. Just wait till I finish my big thick plow disc that I will put one of those big burners under to use as a wok and for making mogolian BBQ.

[@RotarySMP]

Glad you managed to get a bit of cooler weather. It has also been a really hot summr too. Naxos was much cooler. I hope you have a really like trip there.

[@joansparky4439]

As for modifying new tools.. yeah, all the time. Chinese economical tools are assembled kits you have to take apart to make them work. Just spent a couple hours on reworking the ball valves on a coolant system evacuation/refill kit as the one assembling it was a bit too generous with the sealant (got into a ball valve) and nearly destroyed it.. the whole thing wasn't tight enough to keep vacuum. Also got rid of unnecessary couplings while doing that, to have less potential leakage points.

[@RotarySMP]

Nice improvment

[@davidfarmer]

nice work!

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks.

[@GeoffTV2]

Great stuff as usual thanks. Nice to see a proper Heather in the intro. - Heather Also, this old Heather has just sold her old lathe and is about to take delivery of a shiny new import one (not as nice as your Schaublin obviously)

[@RotarySMP]

Nice one. What was the lathe you sold?

[@GeoffTV2]

@@RotarySMP It was a Myford ML7. A brand quite well known here in the UK. Myford lathes were specifically aimed at the hobby market and production started in the early post war era. They are nice little machines but I kept running into the limitations of its small spindle bore and low max rpm (1000).

[@RotarySMP]

@@GeoffTV2 What are you replacing it with? It is amazing what was done on Myfords golden age of home machining.

[@GeoffTV2]

@@RotarySMP Yes I've seen amazing things done on a Myford too, just not by me. I'm replacing it with a Warco "VS 1235 Vario". Warco (Warren Machine Tool Company) is a UK based supplier of Chinese imports. The VS 1235 model is so unusual that I don't know whether anyone else in the UK has one. It probably exists under a different brand but Warco do not actually have it in their range. The Machine I bought was a sample they got from China that they decided not to include in their range. It's just about the same size as their WM 290V with a slightly longer bed. It has a D1-4 camlock chuck, 2250rpm spindle with a 38mm bore. These features, the knock-down price and the general size of the machine were what attracted me to it.

[@RobB_VK6ES]

With depth mic reading skills like that you could get a job working on jet engines ;)😉 3.605 @ 7:19

[@RotarySMP]

:)

[@chrisfairbrother9197]

I don’t work in mm, but it looks like 3.1 to me 😀

[@RotarySMP]

@@chrisfairbrother9197 That is why I did a close up, to confuse everyone as much as I did myself :)

[@johnhawkinson]

@@chrisfairbrother9197 Yeah, I don't machine in metric either, but agreed. At 7:19 we can see the lower half tick between 3.5 and 4 visible, and there's no way the first digit is a 4 it must be a 3. I read this as 3.097 mm? (Unless the parallax is messing with us and that half tick is still buried, in which case 3.597) I guess as long as it's read the same way later it's OK. At 8:24 I read it as 3.182 mm, or a 0.085 mm difference from before. The screw head diameter looks around 6mm, suggesting M3x0.5, M3.5x0.6, or M4x0.7. If so, then that’s off by somewhere between 44° and 61°, or a little more than an eighth of a turn, which seems decent enough.

[@chrisfairbrother9197]

@@johnhawkinson to be fair, he is using his depth mic ac as comparator, as long as he get the same numbers before and after fitting the ballscrew, its ok 😀

[@jmtx.]

Can you get get any more random‽ Well, can you? Keep up the awesome work!

[@RotarySMP]

Sorry about that. All a bit weird that one.

[@mbox314]

I am looking forward to seeing the progress on that table! Also you should invest in a real pair of shoes.

[@RotarySMP]

I have real shoes, but tend to slip into these ;/

[@FlorianHofmann]

Do you by chance play dwarf fortress? That music is really reminiscent of the sound track 🙂

[@RotarySMP]

I have never heard of that game. I just use free music from the KZbin creators library.

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

To answer your question, I used to buy cheap tools to modify or reuse as a different tool. One of my favorites was buying cheap Chinese side cutters and grind them to make flush cutters. I was going to leave a comment about the dancing cyclone, but you solved it before I reached the comments 🙂

[@RotarySMP]

Yeah, that cyclone was really annoying me there :)

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

@@RotarySMP LOL, but you found a great solution 🙂

[@joansparky4439]

The blade of your tracksaw needs cleaning (burn marks in your wood indicate this) and maybe even replacing with a proper aftermarket one (in case you still got the oem no-name blade on it). The teeth are getting coated with sap/gum/resin of the wood and needs cleaning. My saw (not Sheppach, but similar el-cheapo) did gum up so badly, the blade started to cut sideways and ripped into the rubber alignment fence.. which then also needed replacement. So yeah, clean the blade and or get a better one right away.

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks. I replaced that blade with a fine tooth bosch blade for normal cuts, but put the original blade back on it for ripping, but it is not cutting well.

[@bmalovic]

@@RotarySMP Saws usualy come with cross cut tooth geometry. For rip: flat tooths, no bevel, small number of tooths (24 or something simmilar), deep gullets, prefferably limiting ridges (or what ever is name for that "thing" behind the tooth, that limit the "bite"). And of course... saws need sharpening from time to time :)

[@RotarySMP]

@@bmalovic Especially after cutting a 4 cylinder head for the scrap alloy ;/

[@iTeerRex]

Dad is like I modified it.. umm partially 😂

[@RotarySMP]

Yeah really.

[@michaelwillis1832]

I am all for modifying tools as needed, I have shaved down brand new c-clip pliers that had the wrong sized tips, I also horrified my friends at a party where i was trying to play music off of my phone by grabbing my angle grinder and free handing modifications to the case, while the phone was still in it, to allow clearance for a stubborn cable that i couldn't modify as it belonged to someone else.

[@RotarySMP]

I bet that freaked them out :)

[@RB-yq7qv]

Gee that Cherry looked great considering the cost of timber lately which is just crap you got a bargain.

[@RotarySMP]

I felt like I was robbing the guy when he told me the price.

[@nickp4793]

Hi, which mic do you have that clips to your shirt? I bought a $30 one on Amazon, and when I use it, my voice is not in sync with the video. Its a wireless one that plugs into my iPhone. Thanks!

[@RotarySMP]

I use a Rode wireless go, with the receiver plug into the camera. For a while I used an external recorder and sync in post, but sick of the hassle.

[@lloyd4768]

I think your saw blade is dull it shouldn't be leaving burn marks like that with a track saw.

[@RotarySMP]

I think you are right. I have a better blade, but it is a fine toothed blade for panel cuts, not for ripping.

[@joeldriver381]

I modify many tools and if they don't get modified they get taken apart anyway. 🤣

[@RotarySMP]

:)

[@jimsvideos7201]

I opine that you don't own something until you've taken it apart and put it back together in better shape.

[@RotarySMP]

That is a good sentiment.

[@vincei4252]

Props for at least trying to put the condom on. wait, that doesn't sound right. 😂

[@RotarySMP]

:)

[@julias-shed]

Hey I watch your channel and I’m not called Heather 😳 anyway Andy Pugh is a star he’s helped me in the past. Tried not to laugh at the cable 🤣

[@RotarySMP]

Hi Julia, so far this channel has about 0.3% female viewers, and I know three called Heather :) Andy is extremely knowledgeable and generous with his help. Brilliant. I keep making dumb mistakes like that. At leas it was easy to fix.

[@jpdthe3rd]

The blade on your track saw is dull or gummed up and that's why you're getting so much burning.

[@RotarySMP]

Probably has something to do with me cutting that 4 cylinder head for alloy scrap :/

[@jpdthe3rd]

@@RotarySMP that'll do er. For re-sawing band saw is the way to go though, love that this channel has also got wood working. Keep up the good work!

[@pauldorman]

Sure that wasn't just shy of 4.71mm?

[@RotarySMP]

Opinions vary :) There have been a number of interpretations offered in the comment section.

[@pauldorman]

@@RotarySMP Other's opinions matter much more than mine. I mean, what the hell do I know. It's not like an aeronautical engineer or anything!

[@robertwatsonbath]

Like most people I start watching a channel for specific content. However in a lot of cases you carry on watching a channel just because of who is doing it even the content shifts or becomes more varied. It almost becomes like dropping by a friends place to see what they've been up to. Unless a channel starts a whole load of shill activity or just does paid promotion stuff I don't usually bail. Not suggesting I'd sit here an watch a 15min vid of you clipping your toenails 🤢, but I'm more than happy with a bit of mixed content - chilli smoking, nameplate scrubbing, aviation tales, light woodwork etc. Cheers!😀

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks Robert. I appreciate your feedback and support.

[@graealex]

I'd be interested in how many people actually prefer the channel membership.

[@RotarySMP]

So far...you :)

[@paulwomack5866]

Why did you grind the clamps, as opposed to milling them? Actually, come to that, given that "happen" to own a mill, I suppose you could have bought generic (cheaper than Makita!!) clamps and milled them to fit...

[@RotarySMP]

Seemed easier, as there are almost no loads with grinding, so I didn't need robust fixturing.

[@paulwomack5866]

@@RotarySMP Hadn't thought about the cutting forces - thanks for the explanation

[@crabmansteve6844]

I'll buy a tool specifically to rip it apart or modify it. Gotta make all these custom machines and tools somehow. I'd suspect most guys with niche interests would do this.

[@RotarySMP]

I like doing that.

[@bejay69]

Almost everything you buy nowadays needs fettling.

[@RotarySMP]

...or is unaffordable.

[@ViniciusMiguel1988]

You and Inheritance Machining are competing who was more side projects

[@RotarySMP]

It is hard to avoid them at times. :/

[@jimurrata6785]

Inheritance Machining channel has a side project counter each episode. 😉

[@RotarySMP]

@@jimurrata6785 Yeah, I like his show. He is a very polished video editor.

[@chrisb945]

This was also some kind of face reveal ?

[@RotarySMP]

Not really, I have been in some of the casting videos as well. Not a big secret what I look like, but not relevant to the content.

[@chrisb945]

@@RotarySMP sure not, but nice to meet you anyways... Enjoying your content now for some time and hope to see the lathe running soon. Keep it up! Cheers from Germany

[@RotarySMP]

@@chrisb945 Thanks Chris. Will do.

[@brendanshorter5550]

Smoke with the cherry.

[@RotarySMP]

I have filled a bag of that saw dust for future smoking.

[@steamfan7147]

Electrical conduits only come in two sizes- 4x's too big and 1 wire too small.

[@RotarySMP]

Good observation.

[@kv4302]

ive never been this early! yaaaaaaaaaaaay!

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks for watching.

[@guy_b]

Guess ring 🥰

[@RotarySMP]

:)

[@shoofle]

other heather here!

[@RotarySMP]

Welcome Heather.

[@AdrianTechWizard]

The moral of the story is that you need to go all of the way through with your modifications and make improved feet too...

[@RotarySMP]

Sorry, I dont follow that. What do you mean by the feet? Of the clamps?

[@AdrianTechWizard]

@@RotarySMP Your dad's BBQ feet needed to withstand higher temperatures

[@RotarySMP]

Oh right. It was the leg supports at the top of the legs which melted. Funny BBQ ever :')

[@dfgaJK]

Gibs pronounced (J)ibs?

[@RotarySMP]

Interesting question. I looked it up in the Collins dictionary, and it is pronounced gib in both british and US english. www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gib

[@dfgaJK]

@@RotarySMPthanks. that's jood to know. I probably should ha joojled that myself first 🙄

[@RotarySMP]

@@dfgaJK jlad to help :)

[@theoriginalDirtybill]

save that cherry wood for smoking meats

[@RotarySMP]

I already bagged some sawdust for that.

[@624Dudley]

Yes, I modify newly purchased apparatus as required - I’d say it’s an innate practice for those whose DNA leads them toward machining!

[@RotarySMP]

My wife doesnt understand this drive :)

[@nder12345]

Nice new video. Some lathe porn or not. Cheers from Australia mate

[@RotarySMP]

Thanks Andre. A bit random this one.

[@gn6034]

Getting a bit pissed off. If you are going to continue dropping woodworking or jalapenos stuff into your CNC LATHE I'm off. Just post different videos onto your channel then we can just ignore them or not as necessary.

[@RotarySMP]

That is a fair call, I am also getting sick of the lack of progress. I tend to make a video on what I did, sometimes I have to do other things.

[@iNerdier]

The man makes hobby videos about what he's interested in. Just scrub forward in the video if you don't like it.

[@mslucass]

Or be his biggest patreon ...

[@RotarySMP]

@@iNerdier I get his point, but appreciate your support too. Thanks.

[@RotarySMP]

:)