Do you NEED a 5 string bass?

[@TrailnTriggerTV]

The B string: I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

[@SuperHamrick94]

PREACH

[@aldistoteles2919]

PAPA DON’T PREACH

[@Dzineboy]

I would rather have a 4 string and 5 string; so, I don’t have to deal with the constant hassles of muting an additional string when not in use, which would be 80% of the time.

[@thelstancroix7555]

Daniel Scott It’s not that great of a hassle to simply mute one extra string.

[@libertylizard_]

@@thelstancroix7555 Indeed. That's a pretty flimsy excuse. Especially when you enter any genre that requires 5. Suddenly having to learn something new is a pain. Better to hang 5 learn to deal with it and have that extra range, than go without and not have an option at all when required.

[@TheRealNewBlackMusic]

The five-string bass became popular in the 1980s and the reason why it was so quickly accepted was the fact that it had to compete against synth bass. many records were coming out by groups from America and the UK tall using Moog and oberhamer synth basss so to compete with that bass players adopted the low B string 5-string bass. that's the story

[@dmitrynikolaev5743]

All "don't get 5 string bass" videos are the same -- you see a guy holding a FIVE STRING BASS that he OWNS.

[@SuperHamrick94]

that's literally why I wanna get a 5. you don't ever see them use a 4 to compare, so I feel like having 5 just gives you more to play with. plus, I've always wanted extra challenge being that my music background started on alto sax and still grows when I get to play french horn (pretty sure I'll never master it lol). more to play with means more to learn, right? lol

[@MrTw2009]

He didn't say "Don't get one" , he said you DON'T NEED ONE.

[@johnballs1352]

@@MrTw2009 Are there EADGB 5 string basses? I'd rather half the extra top string than bottom one

[@johnballs1352]

@lovefrog2 definitely gonna check that put *Out

[@ts4gv]

John Balls You can always string it up like that yourself, too. I've done it, and after some very minor adjustments it plays just fine. I used the same nut and everything, though YMMV

[@PhilosophicalCat]

My big reason for being into 5-strings: 1) never have to drop D 2) I play with singer songwriters who love playing in keys that use Eb. 3) I can use the B string as a thumb rest when I'm playing on the E string

[@scottydog62]

And number 4 the string spacings are closer, actually makes playing easier and faster when jumping string to string ,my fingers fall in between the strings spacing on a 4 string sometimes and miss notes that way... And using the 5th string for a thumb rest works great, Because the string is movable you can push it down a little bit,to grab at the G-string quicker,

[@PhilosophicalCat]

@@scottydog62 good point! Another advantage I've started making use of is the low E that's available on the 5th fret of the B. Frets are closer together, more notes available than 4-string in first position, and much quicker shifts between playing chords in the 12+ fret zone and getting back to the equivalent of first position.

[@adamgreenhill110]

@@PhilosophicalCat And higher up the fretboard, you get that smooth, less aggressive tone. The low B string gives you that with lower notes!

[@frostmusicofficial]

@@andreiz.7746 yeah but then your strings are loose and obnoxiously clunky

[@musenw8834]

haha that's how I chose my first bass 😜

[@shawnhuff3920]

The five string bass guitar was created for studio work in pop music 🎶 but in the late 80's players started using the five string bass guitar live and everyone wanted one 😊

[@Bassboy1987]

I've been playing for almost 15 years and I started off on five string passive/active 24 fret full scale bass and then went to a six string. But now a days I just play on a fender mustang PJ. It's funny because when I was younger I wanted all the bells and whistles, but now a days I just want a good old meat and potatoes bass.

[@WakizashiSabre]

How that short scale affected your feel, playing and tone?

[@bernardjharmsen304]

Cool, makes you play differently?

[@rontakabuda4474]

Hot meeat!¿😇

[@7xchad]

My 5 string is useful because I play with several different players who all prefer different tunings. We get together once a week and jam, and I can go seamlessly from the half step down guys to the drop d guys to the low c guys to the 7 string players and the standard tuning guys without having to change tuning and try to keep track of how my pattern shapes modify for alternate tunings

[@alanswanson7389]

If you're playing with horns or a keyboard many standards are in C Bb or D. Gotta have that low root!

[@thesisters1349]

Alan, this comment is dead on... this is the reason 5 string bass was invented. Not for for playing guitar based rock music. Also the added positions are a bonus. They provide tonal and positional variety. I love my 5ers...

[@Brandywackyman188]

One of the weirder things with a 5 string bass is adjusting to the smaller spacing between the strings as opposed to a 4 string, I find it much easier to slap on a 4 string than a 5 string however I find it easier to play very fast songs on a 5 string since my fingers have to move less distance giving me more endurance and speed

[@hoangkhanhtruongnguyen8197]

just try 19mm space in 5 string. But me too, I feel like home in 4 string bass. When I play 5 string bass, I think it is a 4 string bass with one more string.

[@musenw8834]

oh that's true. yes, five string basses together with 100-300W amps are good if you want an earthquake in your house 😂 just kidding! five and six string basses are built for ease of fingerings and string crossing and modern sounds (playing with both pick and finger) but still possible to use the slap techniques too. just needs higher accuracy to get a clean sounds.

[@kickinkanga7026]

I think it depends on how close your strings are and how hard you strike. Also mute the Top B with your finger or palm🤘

[@dallassurfersclub8872]

Yes facts. I have a really nice Fender P-Bass 4-string and a Music Man Sterling 5-string. Both are great basses and I enjoy playing both, but it's def. easier to slap on the 4!

[@czjolley]

I must admit, I don't use the low B string on my bass very often (Maybe 5% of the time?). Still, I've been playing 5 string bass for so long (20+ years), I feel lost without that 5th string! :-)

[@Mr.Goldbar]

Sometimes you gotta feel that thicc B, however I alwaye try to implement it in songs, even when I write my originals

[@piaten]

I second that!

[@outermarker5801]

Also seen 4 stringers with a modded nut and strung B E A D plus tuned lower. Earth shaking setup

[@tubadude07]

Got a 5 string mainly for musicals

[@alexanderdenchev7967]

I've been playing a 5-string for a couple of years now and now whenever I pick up a 4-string one, I feel crippled. The string spacing on the 5-string is a bit narrower and easier for my teeny hands to manage. Also as a metal player, playing fast is the priority in many situations so being able to finger notes on the 5th string instead of stretching helps ALOT. I know it sounds different, but it works for me, especially in a live situation.

[@bernardjharmsen304]

Bridge spacing is 17mm on narrow 5ers, Stingray 5 is 17.5mm; Fender 5 is 19mm, same as a 4

[@groovydjs]

5th string is a thumb rest.

[@dragonhawk8483]

I think Ryan Martinie would disagree

[@seanoxton5572]

I resisted playing a 5 string for years but now that I have one, I have to say its really changed how I play. Pretty dramatically actually. You not only get those few extra notes but its opens up tons of fills based on those low notes that you wouldn't play as well. I think its improved my left hand technique quite a lot. One other thing, the 5 string neck seems to fit my hand better. I had cramping issues for years that I don't have with the 5. Just my 2 cents.

[@fernandovelasco3353]

"I resisted playing a 5 string for years but now that I have one, I have to say its really changed how I play. Pretty dramatically actually. You not only get those few extra notes but its opens up tons of fills based on those low notes that you wouldn't play as well. I think its improved my left hand technique quite a lot." That's me too!!

[@nemethzsigmond4548]

Decide your role. Think about evolution. Where the bass came from? It was the contrabass. It was an electric contrabass you can carry (for a few miles), plug it in. Great Idea. Then it evolved. Nowadays, we have dozenstrings or more, but for the role: 5 BEADG is the best. Jaco pulled out the frets to get a fretless. It is EVOLUTION. Yes you can play anything with a Chapmanstick. Doesn't that feel off? That's not bass. You write music, use a score. You play bass, use a 5 or less. (I love my 4)

[@Gerry926]

I like the chord options on a 5 string. It's also good to have a thumb anchor.

[@petrmoczek]

What I love about the five string basses is that the B string gives you the unlimited finger rest for your thumb finger. On four string you are limited to rest your thumb on the pickup edge or the neck edge to play the E string. On fiver it is just natural for the right hand to anchor anywhere.

[@diluteduk]

Use a 4 string but tune to BEAD and use 5 string strings, just leaving out the high G string. The joy of a 4 string with all the low nightmare sounds of a 5. I'm playing bass, I don't want high notes, I want dirty low noise

[@FreeformRock]

Thats what I think, I just see way more use for a B string than a G string. For me this is a no brainer

[@max-rdj9741]

I find myself tuning down a lot to play metal, particularly nu metal. I've admitted that I NEED a 5-string as tuning the E string to B loses so much tension that it can't really stay in tune, and forget about tuning to A# or A. Also, sometimes, you simply don't have the range to play a song if that song has highs as well, unless you use a weird tuning that would no doubt become a hassle.

[@FreeformRock]

@@max-rdj9741 You dont "need" a 5 string. BEAD tuning is pretty useful, if you have 2 basses EADG and BEAD is pretty nice. A five string would cover booth, booth works imo. I wanted a 5 string for a long time but I noticed that so many of the songs are like have even lower tunings, so even if I had that b string I couldn't play it.

[@cavanray6742]

I tried this and got away with it until my current band where the basslines sometimes call for octave jumps and chords that are an absolute pain in the ass without the G.

[@gsharpslayer3287]

I want high notes to annoy guitarists. Jk but I love chording on a bass with a good eq control.

[@rebelliousONE7]

As a bass lover and beginner, I just want to say thank you for this advice.

[@brocklanders6172]

Play 'Sir Duke' by Srevie Wonder on a 5 string and you'll see why. It's giant steps on the 4 string and right up the middle on a 5. By playing the root note up the neck you now actually get a higher string.

[@RK-og3mg]

5th string is not for range. It is for slides, for deep passages and etc. It can give you quite a techno kind of bass sound. BTW really cool tuning for standart playing is C tuning (whole step up on every string). Also you can change strings (learn to do it bassists!! :D) so 5th string will be E and will have its thickness, so then additional B is the highest. Remeber if you can't use something it doesn't mean that there is no other people that can't use it. Nice video.

[@basscubs]

I primarily use a 5 string because the string spacing. It is much tighter, and gives me more options in a live setting. Now in a studio session, I am consistently asked to provide a 4 string P-bass. As much as I hate that request, I know the 4 sits better in the mix, and has a certain sound that engineers favor, not all mind you. Because of this, even as 5 player, I bought a 4 recently. You never want to miss out on a session because you don't have the right bass. Don't be a fool, get one of each. I don't care to own many basses, but I know, 2-3 good options is enough to insure yourself work.

[@freshelfpie]

I just joined a funk band, play a bunch of 70s stanky stuff, have only owned fivers for years, but an considering picking up a cheap P bass for this gig, and any other "vintage" stuff I may encounter. I can get that sound, on my G&L 5 on the neck pickup in humbucking, but can't hurt to have the real thing for picky ears.

[@piaten]

Why not a 5 PJ?

[@sanjayb299]

With modern technology, there is absolutely no tone that a 5 string gets that can’t be had on a 4 string. I have a drop D switch on the headstock and an octave pedal. No 5 string can top it. But one thing I do like about 5 string is the neck size.

[@seodophy]

The fifth sting gives a way fuller sound, when you are playing chords up on the neck.

[@thebionicbassplayer]

I finally picked up a 5 string bass fretless. I find that it helps me play my 4 string better.

[@JWblade]

I have been playing 4 string bass for 30+ years and I just bought a new Stingray 5H and I love it !!! It took me about 3 weeks getting use to the neck and having that low B string but I love it you can do so much with those extra 5 notes and you can tune down a whole step on that B giving you an extra 7 notes and it doesn't sound wobbly and holds sustain!! But I understand what he is saying in the video but it is really up to the individual player!! I am glad I am playing a 5 string but that is my own opinion!!

[@jaibruce777]

Well said, well explained! Sometimes we are so concerned in upgrading our gears but not the skill.

[@edtaylor7816]

Hey Marco, Thanks so much for helping me clarify this in my mind!

[@tigerscott2966]

Great lesson. It's good to have a 4 string bass and a 5 string bass on hand. The mechanics are different and every player adapts at a different pace too.

[@mikemagnum9357]

You don't "need" a 5 string but it's definitely convenient. I started out with a 4 string and later joined a group of musicians whose guitarist was "acrobatic" with his tuning preferences. I spent most of the time during rehearsals retuning or switching basses until I finally bought a 5 string. No more retuning or switching basses, and if the low string wasn't needed, I just ignored it.

[@georgerivera9845]

Thank you Marcelo... i was kind of on the fence with this topic. THUMBS UP. i JUST SUBSCRIBED !! Look forward to watching your other videos.

[@VicCross]

I use a 4 and a 5 string. I would say I fall into the "don't really need it" category, but I do like the feel of a 5 string. And I keep telling myself that I am going to incorporate it into my writing. Great vid.

[@SmoothbassmanStudios]

Once I went 5 string, I never looked back. I bounce between my 6 string and 5 string depending on the session. Love tuning down to A on that B string. Sounds great being able to go that low on some songs.

[@pabloruizkanal4019]

DGCF tuning is a win win situation. You remain on a 4 string bass but can get that D tone from 5 string bass. and you can have funny moments at gigs confusing your EADGBE guitarist :)

[@Bloodlust-hc4gm]

Pablo Ruiz that's pure evil, hahahahah!

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

But do you get more fret noise and other trouble from having looser strings?

[@DD_Vandal]

@@DrunkenUFOPilot Depends on the string gauge, you could have thicker strings on a 4 string bass.

[@mikefelber5129]

Pablo Ruiz there are also string gauges 70-140 for a four string (mostly to downtune) to give a five string sound

[@blackmoonmetalproductions8747]

Right lol

[@libertylizard_]

You certainly don't need one but its fairly genre dependent. Perhaps much like a friend of mine in Japan, the problem comes along with muscle memory and familiarity. She always played 4, the music started to demand 5 and so that demanded a transition. For a long time she was all over the place because of the extra string and relearning how to move around it. The 5 just doesn't have enough limitations to really call them 'cons' and has all the world to gain, should you find yourself like her with the demand for it. Get used to the 5 and you've got all that extra with nothing to lose. A little extra work and size aside, seems like an obvious choice for those pursuing the heavy side of life especially.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Marcelo Feldman - The Bass Wizard I've got a 5 String Bass & the advantage of it is that the Low B String (along with a 7 String Guitar) makes it easier to transpose so you can match the ranges of other Musicians & Singers, especially on Church Gigs.

[@carlosegtrs5308]

I started playing 5 string for like 8 years and the switch to 4 string and after few years. I think i might be going back to the 5 string

[@motoman5023]

You explained everything I have ever read but not understood . I have both 5 and 4 i love the feel of a 4 but love the deep tone of a 5. Thanks mark

[@joshstarkey8883]

People sometimes seem to forget you can tune a 4 string to BEAD. You get the familiar patterns like that D standard guy you talked about, plus your notes are on the same frets and you have 3 of the same 4 open strings.

[@WakizashiSabre]

This, and also, there might be guys tuning the bass like BADG.

[@BBarNavi]

But you still need a thicker string for low B.

[@joshstarkey8883]

@@BBarNavi True, you need a whole new set of strings in my opinion, plus setup. Not that big of a deal in my opinion though.

[@julesvox]

The necklace thing clanking with the mic distracted me the whole video.

[@benturtl9076]

I hate you for pointing that out

[@irishdog79]

It's just background percussion

[@minceraftfornite4334]

@@irishdog79 ye need that beat to lock in with

[@jamessbca]

Makes it a real recording. A little bit refreshing in today’s world of over-processed everything :)

[@pgmorrow]

The variety of tones going up the neck is actually quite useful. For example, if I want a clear, well defined tone on the low notes, I will play near the nut on the E , A and D string. But if I want something like the big round, short-scale tone of the Beatles, or the dead flat-wound Jamerson sound., I will play higher up on the the B, E and A strings. This plus the option of having notes below E and having an extra string for approach notes like the 5th from below, is also very useful.

[@piaten]

5th from below rocks, ascending 3rd-5th-1st from below too!

[@lateralus9244]

Incidentally, Hipshot Bass & Guitar Extenders have an option where you can buy & replace the lever on them ($30) for one that has its own dedicated adjustment/tuning screw in it that will allow for a total of three possible open notes on the string you have it installed on. It is called a Hipshot Double Stop Lever. I have one installed on my guitar which gives me low E, low D, & a Low B. It's very useful but you will have to use a little bit of a thicker guage string to get rid of some of the extra slop it creates in the low B position.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

I've upgraded from a 4 to a 5 String Bass after playing for a Long time. The Low B on a 5 String Bass works very well when reading Orchestral Bass parts.

[@lasse3412]

I was a 4 string bass player but now can only play on my 5 string bass. So much variations compare to my old 4 string guitar

[@walterrobinson8024]

Marcelo!! out fricken standing!! thank you for clarification, and your take on the 5

[@fysy9989]

I like that 5 string basses often have the strings closer together. And the E string feels easier to play as it is more "integrated" in the other strings.

[@MingQu]

5 string bass makes chords more open

[@steveothebassist]

Yeah, but if chords are THAT important to you, you're playing bass wrong

[@questionablekortex3191]

@@steveothebassist Technically speaking there's no right or wrong way of playing a bass. Tons of bass players play chords on bass, like Lemmy, Les Claypool, Timmy C. And even then, who cares if he likes playing chords on bass? It's his bass and his style of music y'know?

[@gsharpslayer3287]

@@questionablekortex3191 that’s right. I play lots of chords because I play solo with a looper and it is awesome.

[@samlelowitch]

1) You can tune a five-string bass other ways, like E-A-D-G-B or E-A-D-G-C; 2) If your five-string bass is heavier or wider in the neck than the equivalent four-string, you might find it harder to play while standing.

[@hugelavalava]

I have both, 4 string to play and hand on heart 5 string for decoration.

[@ZPX945]

Best explanation about the 5 string bass! Thanks! :-)

[@generalwards2458]

I play a 5 string bass for my band. The guitarists are in drop A. I follow. Ive grown to love that tuning. Its really nice having a 'metal' tuning to have some wankery fun with, and then have standard to work on my technique with. Ive grown to also love playing 5 string basses, I have long hands and I find the feeling of the instrument is a lot more a natural.

[@Okir09]

General Wards i play in Drop A with my band to! They have 7 strings guitar, i mean i feel that the 4 string bass does the job well, i don’t really need the « high » string in my play, does it change something to play drop A on a 5 string bass ? I’m curious might get one but don’t really see the use ! Thx for the help

[@TheRidgeRunners-sl5fx]

Very helpful. Been playnig for years and getting tired of hip shot drop tuner for what I doing now. The new country just requires it. thx !

[@arunasPanavas]

Nothing to say. Your explanation is perfect. Thank you a lot

[@zelricmarklucenara2026]

well this really helps me because im now planning to have a 5 string bass,

[@danielelise7348]

It's funny that it's JUST ONE more string,but it makes so many changes to the bass & how you have to play it.

[@ronanderson355]

Excellent video. This is something I’ve felt about 5 string basses for quite awhile but couldn’t really put into words.

[@Malio75]

“Bass is bass!” :-) I was actually debating the 4 vs.5 myself - mainly just to have something for home demos - and this vid provided some useful points of consideration. Nice work.

[@theodoreknapp6642]

I got my first five-string for church. It was a lot easier to sight read the bass line from the hymnal. Lots of numbers are scored below the range of a four-string a little. It was easier than shifting a whole octave on the fly (for me, at least)

[@schoenetoene]

i often play bass in a brass arrangement (brass ensemble, big band)...a lot of brass music is written in the Key of Bb, Eb or Ab....for that reason the low Eb is very useful. The other main reason i play a 5string is like you told that i don't need to go all the way up the neck, even if the tone is not exactly the same - i just like to have a larger range of notes in the same position.

[@paulevans4334]

I've just bought a five string so I've got one in my arsenal, but have found out that it has tighted up my playing due to the less string space on the fretboard and now went I play one of my four strings I'm alot more accurate and it has gotten much easier to play. Well worth getting a five string.

[@robertakiranishihara238]

I love B low string!My 4 strings bass tuning in BEAD!

[@dimitriosmavridis4798]

I would just consider the type of music the bass player is playing. There is also some navigation you can utilize with the 5 string - for instance tuning the B down to an A. A lot of songs are Bb, A, and C and you would end songs which would sound so nice and full. I am more of a 4 string player myself but I am considering E-C for more chords and melodic possibilities. My group is an instrumental trio tuned Half-Step down and Drop Db so a low B isn't exactly needed.

[@vladlabcraft]

Thanks for the tips, Marc! I started my bass playing on the 5 string Ibanez K5. When I make the shift to 4 string, the difference was huge. Having a small issue at the first moment. But it was really helping 5 string bass practice. Actually besides the wider neck and B string + C, and C# notes everything is quite the same!

[@squamsk5994]

honestly best channel for bass related stuff. you dont drone on and you have great vids. woof id type more but im tired. theres other great channels too but. anyway. thanks. and yeah lower string, thicker string, higher up on the neck...big tone difference

[@Project_2501]

I desired to get a 5-String for years because I owned actually two 4 strings - one tuned in standard tuning and one set to B-standard which has the low end of a 5-string. That is one alternative e.g. if you want to play metal or stoner and all kinds of genres where you need the low notes. But constantly switching between them because B-Standard on a 4-string lacks the the high notes you have on standard is something I also want to implement into my playing while having that full range of both basses. So a 5-string really was the natural progression for me and I haven't regret finally buying one at all. In fact I don't even bother touching my other basses anymore and I can basically sell them now. It is really what I needed all the time and it feels so natural and "right" to me now. It is so much more versatile and gives you so much freedom, especially when writing or playing with bands that use a multitude of different tunings, using different guitars and you can basically play everything they play with only one bass and don't have to rethink all the time where your notes are, because your tuning didn't change. I really think having a wider range and not adapting to different tunings really makes you a better player in some regard because you have a whole other level of confidence knowing and feeling where notes are, because the layout never changes. For guitar that is a different thing though because it works a bit different with the high B and E string being not aligned in 4ths to the rest of the guitar and changing the overall shape of scales and chords. So it is not the same to just add another string, because it messes with the whole concept of the guitar depending on what you go for. Or play a baritone guitar. Same issue. With a five string bass you don't have all this confusion and I also really feel that alternative tunings on bass are not as much relevant as on guitars, because of the way you play a bass which is a lot different to guitar in general. Also it is very beneficial if you play both bass AND guitar. It makes you understand both instruments a lot better and also makes you rethink the relevance of each instrument. I got rid of basically every stupid bass player cliche, because I only realized the importance, sound and role of the bass when I picked one up myself and really got into it.

[@The_Real_Tom_Ball]

I wanted a jazz bass and I saw a squire vintage modified jazz 5 for £150 second hand so I bought it and love it

[@TheBen427]

I like to use the B string for easy access to the below Fifth of any main Chords

[@gaboquintana3628]

at the turn of the century i've switched from 4 to 5 inspired by Gail Ann Dorsey, who played with David Bowie at the time , it was confusing at the beginning but i gotten so used to it now i've only have 5 string bass ever since, i don't think i'll go back to 4 because i can do on a 5 what i can do on a 4 but not the other way around , i love my low end i'm even considering installing a hipshot bass extender to be able to drop the 5th to A and have more low notes. great remarks, thank you

[@johnmoser2689]

Definitely need a 5 string bass for some music.... as in where the piece is written using it

[@chessdude67]

Very helpful. I dig my 4 string. Thumbs way up!

[@chaindoggydogg]

I used to play 4 string with ADGC tuning. It is hard to find .145 gauge strings bit if you can it's nice, but lacks some high notes. That's why i think about switching to 5 string

[@GeroLubovnik]

An excellent explanation, Marcelo. Very direct and succinct. But if I may comment on a few things (having been down that road). 1) It's true that different string thicknesses and positions have different timbres. One approach to making notes on the low B sound like being played on the E is using a "tapercore" low B. It adds back some zing that's lost in a traditional 5 string. I currently have them on two of my 5ers. 2) Drop D tuning works, but unless you practice a lot with that tuning, it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to retrain for it. I have Hipshot Drop D tuner on my Jazz4 and found it helpful but clumsy and confusing at times as you have to remember which tuning you're in. That's why I mostly play 5's now. With the tapercore low B and easier fingerings I find that extra string more than helpful, especially that a lot of stuff I play has notes as low as that low B. As for your suggestion about changing from a standard E tuning, down a full step to standard D tuning, that makes a ton of sense. IMO it's easier to just think up two frets than to re-train for odd fingerings that you get with drop-D. Thanks again for the explanations.

[@lauriehwrdlh]

I have jumped from 4 to 5 quite a bit. The main reason I went to five when I was a regular player was because in some of the stage music and big band music I played had parts written for 5 strings which were really hard or impossible to play on 4. Now I am back to playing my music on my terms a 4 string is plenty. I like the idea of a DGCF tuning as the very top end isnt used by me at the moment but having the flexibility to drop down every now and then would be nice.

[@Tedroy]

I do like playing my patterns mid neck. 5 string opens up so many new fingerings. Sire V3 gets it done.

[@GILLISH]

if you want a 5 string then that's all that matters nothing advanced about it if you want lower notes that's a big part which allows more creativity in a song as in sound i have never played a 4 string bass and if you practice and or love what you do then its not harder i also don't want to tune down and i find that the tone is not softer depending on how you hit the string

[@ArielRaskin]

you can play 2 octaves scales in same position on 5 strings

[@Grapho137]

Do you have a video on how to mute strings?

[@stevem-h3562]

I bought an early 2000's EBMM SUB5 (not the Indonesian one) in Cardiff in 2012... and found it too tricky to play. I ended up using the low string as a thumbrest. It was kind of wasted on me. Didnt keep it long and ended up trading it in. Still not sure to be honest as to whether I really need one.. Have got a 4 with a Hipshot D-Tuner, which seems to cover most of the eventualities that I have.....

[@inthegarage342]

You just helped me make up my mind. Im getting a 5 string. Except instead of the extra top string B itll be a extra bottom sting C for chording.

[@golfhound]

I've been playing a 4 string bass since 1979. I have never found the need to go to 5 strings. I also have small hands. So the larger 5 string neck is quite cumbersome.

[@willeek3760]

there are 4 string bases like stienberger & kubuici which have the low D n E flat on their 4 string basses...as standard...

[@jedfriedland1520]

As long as you are good at muting and don't suffer hand fatigue, they are wonderful. Also the addition of additional mass etc on 5s can contribute to neck dive on rare occasion depending on materials and maker. Having said that, a 4 string is a thing of wonder . . .

[@danielskrivan6921]

3:40 but you can downtune the low B string to an A and get those 2 notes back.

[@freshelfpie]

In an improvisational context, I love that the low E, F, G and A on the 5th string sound different than in first position on the 4th. The same patterns sound quite different in the different positions. In addition, two octave patterns can be covered in 5 frets from the 5th to 1st strings. I was lucky that the first fiver I picked up had a SUPER comfortable neck with excellent rolled edges and frets. A G&L L2500. Brilliant bass.

[@mintoxace5571]

Great video mate. Thanks for making it as you helped me a lot. :)

[@Alex69eyes]

I Think you're playing a Fender jazz elite v white... I have the same bass but just natural finish...

[@lovesur]

I have one very similar, american deluxe 5 strings. I can not solve the problem of tuning in the second octave with the fifth string. Do you have the same problem?

[@Alex69eyes]

@@lovesur I've not experienced this problem on my model...

[@lovesur]

@@Alex69eyes thank you Alex

[@Mr.Goldbar]

It's actually a Sire V7

[@michaelmenkesOZSKIB]

the TL/DR version is you never really need 5 strings, and it takes some rethinking of your playing techniques to get the most out of it. But for a player like me who doesn't like open notes, just that low D alone, or low E as a fretted note for finer tone and sustain control down low changes my tonal palette quite a bit. Playing a G minor blues number off the B string or ADE walking 12 bar where I can go low on the E turn around is a very powerful option.

[@EvertAlbers]

A good reason to use a fiver can be emulating the fat sound of a double bass, or in my case a babybass. I often do salsa gigs with a 5-string, playing the same 4-string notes 5 frets higher on the neck, only occasionally (in merengue songs mostly) also hitting the notes below the low E. I can imagine jazz or reggae bass players using a five-string for similar reasons.

[@ronbzoom8531]

I deal with two vocalists who almost routinely switch keys trying to find their vocal sweet spot. For a lot of our cover songs, I have to transpose on the spot all the time. Thank God I have a five- string bass!

[@JOBSquad98]

Many 5 string sets say that they have a tapered B string. What is the difference between a set of strings that have a tapered B string vs a regular one?

[@goncalomarques2711]

I'm a 5 stringer and this video is on point I like to use a 5 string, but if a song is Drop D, I will drop the E and B string, to get that open D, and still use the B string to do low fills... But you really don't need the 5 string, unless you're going for a specific type of playing That's just my opinion

[@ruminantmelanoid5444]

I gig black Gospel. I need mine to cover the material. (And I tune down a half step on my 5)

[@joannalewis5279]

That Bb must come in useful

[@ruminantmelanoid5444]

@@joannalewis5279 Seriously useful. So much is written in Bb (and other flat keys) it is ridiculous. And don't get me started about the power of an open b string.

[@joannalewis5279]

@@ruminantmelanoid5444 I'm getting FOMO for a 5

[@ruminantmelanoid5444]

@@joannalewis5279 Unless you are doing Gospel or some strains of Metal or Dance music, you can get away with putting a hipshot on a 4. I don't see a lot of Rockers or CCM players with 5's or 6''s. (And you can have a whole studio career with a str8 4 string P-Bass)

[@joannalewis5279]

@@ruminantmelanoid5444 I'm thinking of some synth bass parts, but I do have small hands so maybe a Dtune is the way to go. I play funk and jazz, so I guess it's not mandatory

[@mehmetcuce6061]

I often need the b string for metal. I also I have to go drop A and need a heavier gauge so its quite useful.

[@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul]

I don't think it's about "NEED",could be more about 'PREFENCE'. I own both 4 and 5, learned how to play on a 4. However, from when I started playing 5, I've 'failed' to go back to 4. I enjoy the 5 more.

[@anibalcampos4626]

What an awesome explanation! Thank you!

[@alexsarkany4415]

I personaly need that low B string because if I tune everything down, I have a lot of mess of notes and figuring where is what.

[@BassistBreakdown]

I found a five string to be very useful in cover bands. Instead of carrying around three basses for the different tunings we played in, a five string in standard tuning can handle songs in E, Eb, and drop D.

[@willisingo]

Depends on the cover, if it's a riff, like say "Slither" or some 90's alternative song where the riff is based on open notes, feels weird not to play it open on a detuned E string. But, yeah, "Another Brick in the Wall pt 2" I aint switching basses for that low D, lol.

[@BassistBreakdown]

@@willisingo good point. I have played slither with a five string. Its not the best way to play the song but it is nice to only carry around one bass.

[@mathieuhoulee]

The only reason I bought a 5-string bass (Steinberger XT-25 if you mind) is to mind myself to write stuff in E using the low B string as note ornaments, as to remind me to use the full fretboard as I play.

[@invisigoat]

Agree with almost everything you said..................but if you play gospel and RnB you may get away with the DGCF tuning for a while, but it won't be long before you need that low BCC#. GREAT video tho as always!

[@SuperHamrick94]

this is a comment I needed. I want to be able to learn and play in my church's worship band, and having lower bass always helps fill out the band's sound (which is true of almost any band setting). Thanks for your opinion!

[@danielsorenson8769]

Good video- I’d just add that I’ve always been able to play my 5 like a 4, but no one can play a 4 like a 5. There’s a few cons, which mostly have to do with the B string being not as well suited for 34” scale lengths. There’s fixes for that too, of course, but everything has a trade off with a low B.