Do you need a DH Bike at the Bike Park?

[@gainknowledgeandinsight]

Def for a 57 year old an enduro saves the body! As a 30 year old - a trail bike would smash any and all the trails. Sore the next day? Sure - but recover quick - not so much a 57 year old body

[@JaredHoff]

@@gainknowledgeandinsight True 👍 If you watch the end my legs were cramping 😂 Body took a lot more impact being on a 135mm trail bike

[@Granar.]

Great video! It's all about what you spend most of your time riding. For me here in the UK that is 95% single track trails with reasonable size features and no uplift plus a few days a year at a bike park. So a ~140/150mm trail bike is absolutely perfect. Also, depends on how much risk you want to take on. Whilst I have great respect for those that do, I am not into mega speed and mega danger, just not worth it for me.

[@JaredHoff]

@@Granar. definitely 👍 you said it right.

[@jacobovermyer]

I used to ride my 140/140 trail bike at Trestle. Roasted my rear shock without a float canister, 2 months after a full service. No, you don't need a downhill bike. But if you frequent one enough, make sure you have proper components.

[@JaredHoff]

@@jacobovermyer for sure 👍

[@aldairasdfghjkl]

I did the same with collosus n9 and the destroy fox floatx2 now I ride with coil but I do te bring it more to the bike park I bought a commencal for the dh

[@JaredHoff]

@@aldairasdfghjkl oh man. Sorry to hear that.

[@Benshredz]

I have a hundred mm trek hard tail with down country geometry and I’ve rode multiple double black trails at a bikepark, I do have enduro tiresrear rim and four piston brakes so they definitely helped. But I only ride bike park 1 or two times a season so my hardtail does great on the local trails.

[@JaredHoff]

@@Benshredz nice man! Takes some skills to ride a Hardtail like that on those type of trails 🤘

[@Benshredz]

@@JaredHoff Thanks dude!

[@jonathan.lastra]

Awesome video man! You validated my short travel ideologies lol. Big bikes are fun but they are usually a one trick pony. I sent my Druid to Korea. Hopefully get some good riding in there.

[@JaredHoff]

@@jonathan.lastra nice 👍 Korea would be a blast to ride. Wish I could go ride Korea with you bro!

[@trailpimp6369]

Well as a season pass holder at a bike park I would say yes. At Northstar you need 180 minimum to 200. A trail bike will fold at my bike park. But people ride them. To do the gnarly features a DH bike is way better and funner. I ride my 180 e bike and love it. Good job Hoff cool video

[@JaredHoff]

@@trailpimp6369 Agree and thanks bro 👍

[@BrawndoDrinker]

Yep, certain trails up at Duststar on a enduro are doable, but trying to ride a speed you are going to trash the non DH bikes fast.

[@trailpimp6369]

@@BrawndoDrinker Agreed I am pretty much the only one on a 180 e bike at the lifts but it works good. I want to get the new Polygon DH bike for the park

[@JaredHoff]

@@BrawndoDrinker I can agree with that. I explained at the end of the video that if I rode bike parks all the time I’d get a DH bike.

[@SSyclone]

Recently went to Tamarack Resort Lift access Bike Park near Cascade, ID and I took my 130mm rear travel rift zone and had a fantastic time. Definitely don't need a DH bike, but it would be nicer to have.

[@JaredHoff]

@@SSyclone nice 👍

[@mikeburgh3956]

I'll take my Nukeproof Scout(Hardtail 160)to a bike park!😂 Great vid!!

[@JaredHoff]

@@mikeburgh3956 nice 👍

[@outsidefootdab4878]

160mm fork and 150mm rear 29er bikes I believe is perfect balance of uphill and downhill. More downhill focused but not a complete slug on the uphills

[@JaredHoff]

@@outsidefootdab4878 I can agree with that 👍 I was pretty happy with this 135/150 setup thoughx

[@jimmykatsaounis3476]

I have found my sweet spot @ 160 for everything for the level I’m at Great video thanks 🤘

[@JaredHoff]

@@jimmykatsaounis3476 Heck yeah 👍 My Polygon Collosus N9 is 170/170 and it’s a little too much for my local trails.

[@13thbornpr]

I have a trail bike 130/140mm and i'd say i ride downhill maybe 20% of the time. Its certainly doable but it is harder on the hands and arm pump. On average black diamond trails (not dh) i'm sometimes faster than some of my buddies on longer travel bikes.

[@JaredHoff]

@@13thbornpr heck yeah 👍

[@trinimendooo4577]

Great video 👍 I just ride my Cannondale habit 5 last week and clear red line, rock fall no problem at all 130r-140front fork test my buddy 170 mm fork Enduro bike I didn't feel any different , you have a nice fork is in my upgrade list for my Cannondale habit 5 2021 model can you make a review? on this bike 👍

[@JaredHoff]

@@trinimendooo4577 I don’t have access to any cannondale bikes so haven’t rode them. Looking online the Habit 5 looks like a great priced full suspension bike with flip chip adjustable geometry. It comes with descent enough parts to get the job done, but advanced riders may need to upgrade suspension etc. if they really want to push the bike to its limits.

[@ryansteiger6960]

Thnk you for the video Jared 👍

[@JaredHoff]

@@ryansteiger6960 thanks for the support 🤘👍

[@aaronblonden6774]

Into this run what yah brung type riding content. Cheers!

[@JaredHoff]

@@aaronblonden6774 heck yeah 👍

[@junseokkim7673]

Omg i brought t8 to bike park one day and it was so scary especially when cornering at high speed. 160/150mm is ideal for do it all trail bike.

[@JaredHoff]

@@junseokkim7673 type of suspension is key as well. This T9 with the 150mm factory fork and Float X rear shock made all the difference.

[@richardbishop6752]

Not necessary.. but it's way more fun. Also a longer travel bike will save you from lack of skills. A hard tail will show no mercy.

[@JaredHoff]

@@richardbishop6752 💯 👍

[@MrBillybonka]

Definitely more comfort, and less crashes

[@JaredHoff]

@@MrBillybonka for sure 👍 I am just trying to find the one bike that can do it all. The T9 ticks a lot of the boxes for me. Can’t believe how good it performed.

[@peterhaworth6859]

Love the video.. I’m on a 2022 Norco optic 140/125 it’s so good for 95% of my riding here in the UK admittedly a little beefed up with lyrik and heavier Tyres. Also what flat pedals are you running? They look sweet👌

[@JaredHoff]

@@peterhaworth6859 5 DEV trail/enduro pedals that I overpaid for 🤦🏼‍♂️ but I do like them.

[@cberg9480]

I think if you are a good rider you can get away with smaller travel. I think the extra extra travel saves riders like mez

[@JaredHoff]

@@cberg9480 for sure 👍

[@design_in_malice]

no need of a DH bike, but damn do they make bike park laps hella fun, yes, yes they do! but the biggest thing for me is that I don't destroy my trail bike at the bike park.

[@JaredHoff]

@@design_in_malice word 👍

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Rockfall was pretty dusty, that's sketchy 😂 You can ride everything on fatbike too, not that I would do it but there's a dude I see often riding the park features with his pimped out rigid fatbike 😅

[@JaredHoff]

@@LaurentiusTriarius crazy! I definitely wouldn’t want to ride it on anything less than the Polygon T9 I was riding

[@spookyshark632]

Maybe I'll pick up an enduro the next time the bike market crashes.

[@JaredHoff]

@@spookyshark632 I think it’s still crashing. Some amazing sales!

[@spookyshark632]

@JaredHoff I already bought a bike this time around, so it'll have to wait. Also, currently living in the flatlands sadly.

[@ajtronic]

That bike will probably be clapped out by the end of the season with weekly rides. It takes a toll on the smaller bikes.

[@JaredHoff]

@@ajtronic I only ride the bike park once maybe twice a year. I agree though and would get a DH bike if I rode the bike park all the time. I’m pretty sure I said that in the video 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@skippylegrandgourou2069]

Trails bike are fun in bikepark but they will not last, my new Norco Sight cracked after 2 days in Whistler. Norco told me blue trails are too extreme for this bike and void my warranty. Meanwhile my 10 years old Scott Gambler with 200 bikepark days is like new lol.

[@JaredHoff]

@@skippylegrandgourou2069 you make a good point. I only ride bike parks once or twice a year. Like I said in the video, if I lived near a bike park and rode it all the time I’d def get a DH bike.

[@tonyochoa16]

Noooooooo!!!! I built up my dream trail bike.Trek fuel ex with beefed up and tuned suspension 140/130. I love riding it more than my Bronson at my local bike park. Actually stole the idea from Cam McCaul, a bend local!

[@JaredHoff]

@@tonyochoa16 Yup 👍 Cam inspired this video. I was watching him and his friends ride Rockfall and decided I should try it on my trail bike.

[@tonyochoa16]

@@JaredHoff the only thing I wasn’t able to do was put an x2 like he did. Carbon frame tolerances are tighter and he had an aluminum bike. I’ll be moving to bend in the next couple of years, though I’ll definitely be visiting in the next couple months to ride my favorite trails

[@JaredHoff]

@@tonyochoa16 nice 👍

[@kalmi_riding]

Budget bike😅 Kashima coated fork, upgraded wheels and fox float X shock, XT transmission. You call "budget" different things

[@JaredHoff]

@@kalmi_riding I trued to explain that it was budget when compared to a 10k Trek bike, but I hear ya. The Float X shock comes stock on this bike. I agree the Kashima coated fork is overboard. I’ve said that in previous videos.

[@kingtriton7202]

I take my Marin rift zone to trestle and Snowmass. Mt buddy let me ride his Santa Cruz v10. Not that much different imo and definitely not worth $10k

[@JaredHoff]

@@kingtriton7202 nice 👍 glad to hear that. I’m starting to think a 140/150 ish trail bike is all I need.

[@TheCureThatKillz]

Quick answer: No, you don’t.

[@JaredHoff]

@@TheCureThatKillz 👍💯

[@Yuh12356]

Trails like rockfall would not be very pleasant On a trail bike

[@JaredHoff]

@@Yuh12356 It was a little sketchy at spots but mostly fun. Although, it would probably end up destroying my bike if I rode it all the time.

[@tobyverdouw4129]

I've ridden a lift only bike park on a hardtail and it was fine. I was very sore on the way home though

[@JaredHoff]

@@tobyverdouw4129 Yeah, that would probably beat you up a bit with no rear suspension

[@MrSatchelpack]

You should probably ride with a seat.

[@JaredHoff]

@@MrSatchelpack definitely 👍 Although a guy ride without one and got millions of views lol

[@justinmiller1535]

My man!

[@BrawndoDrinker]

Go jump on a double black up at Whistler and tell me a trail bike is the way to go. Silly rabbits. Sure I've seen hard tails ridden on hard stuff, hell I used to ride Downieville in the 90s with an 80mm fork and cantis, but its so much safer and more fun to ride a DH bike on DH tracks. Not all bike parks are equal. Also, your riding a jump flow line which isn't what DH bikes are for.

[@JaredHoff]

@@BrawndoDrinker did you watch the whole video? Rockfall is a jump and flow line? Have you rode Mt. Bachelor? Do you know who Cam McCaul is? Did you watch the clip I put in the video of him explaining how gnarly Rockfall trail was? Do your research bro 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Halfendurobro]

The 9436th video telling you the same thing over and over