Stop violently banging my fist on my desk while broadcasting? That's crazy talk.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
As a former fulltime podcast editor...this IS REAL. Sometimes you get to play the game of "WTF is going on?" Its a fun game...everyone loses. Cheers and thanks for watching!
@desboom78903 жыл бұрын
WTF I just said that and went to the comments and yours is the first one I see LOL
@gunarcom2 жыл бұрын
You say this but setting up a video environment for a crafter/artist that bangs on a desk is quite tricky.
@dylanj86763 жыл бұрын
Yes... When you're a boom operator. If you're doing a studio recording, you're going to need to redo the part where you bumped the mic stand/desk even with a shock mount. The only time a shock mount is actual necessary is when you're recording location audio and you're using a boom pole because the shock mount helps minimize the handling noise a lot. In general they do help condenser mics, but the traffic noise probably isn't making your floors vibrate enough that you actually _need_ a shock mount. And in an apartment build with kids running around, forget about it, it won't do thing (because the energy is also travelling through walls and ceilings).
@doom24692 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@sheepsus_afk Жыл бұрын
very informative, probably saved me a lot of bucks😅 thanks!
@dylanj8676 Жыл бұрын
@@sheepsus_afk I mean you should have a shockmount, but that's money you could put toward acoustic treatment, then get the shockmount afterward.
@orestes1984 Жыл бұрын
There are some use cases, particularly on some cheaper microphones that are not just sensitive but highly microphonic such as the Audio Technica ATR2100, which is a highly popular entry level USB dynamic microphone. Don't handle the thing you say? Not always true really, if the microphone is highly sensitive, such as in this case to incidental harmonic frequencies and resonance coming from your surrounding area, you may need one. There are indeed some cases where a microphone doesn't come with one where it may be necessary. Buy a better microphone you say? That isn't possible in all users cases.
@JeffBourke Жыл бұрын
But a LOT of users at home have their pc setup on the desk humming away. Also, for no good reason most consumer mics pushed on users are condensers. Most people, a dynamic is more suitable but hey.
@ChrisSchaffer3 жыл бұрын
I have been coincidentally practicing your recommendation - I generally use any shock mount I've been given by a company, because hey, free shock mount! and as someone doing some streaming on occasion there's some chance it reduces some amount of bumping noises from the desk/keyboard. But I have otherwise saved money on not buying shock mounts and thrown that money toward higher quality room treatment materials where it's is going to make a bigger difference toward everything I record.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. There are so many better places to put that money... You are doing it right!
@EpIcHoBoGuY2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios for most recording purposes i think they are unnecessary but as a pc gamer i love them the mic situation on pc is much better than on consoles with desk mics being much more common but it still annoys the hell out of me when i hear keyboard desk noises or pc fan vibrations and the less than £10 cheap shock mount is more than worth its money for that but the expensive ones like the one you showed nah screw that
@djtommykeys2 жыл бұрын
A fair explanation that covered all the bases. There are people like me who can trip over a dime on the sidewalk and have dropped more coffee cups than I can count. For me a shockmount and a crash helmet while recording are not bad ideas.
@DarkCornerStudios2 жыл бұрын
Bahahaha...fair point
@WiitchBlair Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 best comment
@whatwillowdo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you just saved me a $60 from getting one that was recommended when I know I'll just be sitting and talking without anything else. I didn't know the difference until this video. So much thanks. Definitely hitting that like button!
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Glad I could help!!
@TimunKun2 жыл бұрын
i just bought a shockmount for my USB condenser mic, and it's actually really useful because i'm using a boom arm. and i can hear the different even bigger when i'm beatboxing.
@3luxo2 жыл бұрын
After looking your video I bought a shock mount anyways and I am happy that I have done this. Sure: For a studio environment, it should not be necessary and you would always do a retake whenver you accidentally bumped into the mic arm anyways and yes, you shoud not do this. I have been sitting in broadcasting studios several times, those rooms optimized for broadcasting, shielded against environment accoustics and heavy weighted tables with boom arms and microphones you been a part of your secret dreams. Those are optimized situations and you do not even touch a boom arm there, because you have a sound engineer sitting in the next room, always having an eye on the mixer. But I am doing live streaming right now and after buying a shock mount for my microphone I would highly disaggree. First of all: A shock mount does not remove noises entirely and the rules that you should avoid touching your microphone arm are still the same, but during live streaming and gaming, it is not always possible to completely avoid those situations, where you just have to move the boom arm. The next thing is, that I am using a mechanical keyboard and a mouse. Both translate to noise delivered via the table to the arm. I have done some takes before and after adding the shock mount to verify that it makes a difference and it can be easily noticed. So I would still say, that it depends a lot on the situation. I don't disagree with the fact that you should not need it, but I still see, that it is doing its job in some situations and there are situations where buying it does indeed make sense. (Ah... and it might be a lot cheaper to build your own out of some 3D printed parts and cheap rubber bands, but that is a different topic.) But anyways: Thank you for the video. It helped me to put some considerations into buying one as well. I also planned to send it back, if the results did not match my expectations.
@CarbonitePlays2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this - I used to have no shock-mount for my mic that I use for gaming and streaming and any keystrokes or heavy movement on your keyboard / desk would just shake the mic arm and produce extra sound / vibrations going into the mic. When I bought a shock-mount it negated virtually everything and the only sound left is the actual key strokes themselves and not the thudding, rumbling sound that would accompany it when typing / gaming without a shock-mount. I'm planning on upgrading my mic to a RODE Procaster and unsure whether I will need the shock-mount as that mic apparently has one internally but I'm likely to get the RODE shock-mount as it enables more angling/positioning of the mic and mic arm location - it's good not to have my screen obscured by a mic in that sense too lol =D
@justinmoore3669 Жыл бұрын
@@CarbonitePlays I recently got a yeti x after my standard yeti stopped working and thought it'd be a good upgrade since I only game. After getting it I found that it is alot more sensitive and picks up everything even after trying to change settings, while its in a good spot now I still have concerns if I should have just went the xlr route. Do you have a recommendation for a great combo of interface and mic?
@justinmoore3669 Жыл бұрын
@Mark es It was picking up keyboard clicks and desk bumbs when the standard yeti never did. I got the software settings to a good point now.
@brooklynboy10002 жыл бұрын
if a singer is standing and moving a bit, rocking their foot to the music, if your studio is near a subway in a city.
@MH_Bikes2 жыл бұрын
I'm in shock, all the info needed with explanations and done in under 4:30 ... Thank you.
@jansleyreal Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear succinct answer, you saved me $100!
@theocharles4761 Жыл бұрын
That's it, direct to the point. Thank you!
@Shishou_Shi2 жыл бұрын
Or if you don't use a mic arm or use your desk with the mic attached to it, it does help a lot. I use a mic stand infront of me with no boom arm
@barusuuu Жыл бұрын
Cant stop "bumping" my desk when I am playing games with mouse and keyboard...
@GuitarBasement2 жыл бұрын
Another reason is to protect a sensitive condenser microphone from the klutz who bangs into the stand (we all have our moments)! But then again, if you are careful, it shouldn't be an issue. Just keep an eye on the kids and the dog!
@claudioagmfilho2 ай бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Amazing video! I totally agree with you.
@stringstorm Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of aftermarket shockmounts that cost $10 that are of high quality make so what's the problem? Like, if you've got $100+ microphone and opted not to buy a shockmount, it just seems like you don't care about getting the most out of your setup. May aswell just sell your mic and get gaming headset at that point. Atleast you'll get some money back on top of saving money from not having to buy a shockmount.
@DarkCornerStudios Жыл бұрын
Addressing this on an upcoming Q&A video...some interesting points here
@podcastuldefilosofie2 жыл бұрын
This is so unnecessarily condescending. Not to mention wrong. Shock mounts help against noise from the desk that comes from 99% of the people naturally touching their desk when recording (especially gamers). That's why people use them. That's why you use them.
@NickzAndMikz5 ай бұрын
I didn’t get the tone to be condescending but I agree that there’s a time and place for shock mounts. This video would have been fitted from a comparison of mount to no mount
@JeffJasperVO4 жыл бұрын
LOL! Yep, sometimes ya do and sometimes ya don't. Back in the old radio days when you might have 6 cart machine motors running 24/7, the 309A helped kill a lot of rumble. These days, motor rumble is a distant memory. I do recommend using a shock mount with most condensor mics, tho, if you can't kill your air conditioning, or have other rumble problems like street traffic or nearby trains. At the studio I worked at in El Paso, we had 18-wheelers on our street servicing warehouses, an interstate highway nearby, and train tracks 1/4 mile away. Without a shockmount, it was all clearly visible on the waveform. So, just take a look at how much LF garbage you've got on your waveform, and decide if you might need one. Or not! On a funny note, we also had one particular mic cable that could pick up truckers on their CB's and even the nearby McDonald's drive thru. Such fun!
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had one of those too...the conversations were faint but they were there. I usually just rally against most shockmounts for dynamic mics...though I do know a couple condensers that sell it separately...I dont bother. Though if I were living beside a busy street I may reconsider...
@raymota45156 ай бұрын
Thanks for the useful insight DC. If you get one with the mic, why not use it? Really no good reason Not to. If you don't need one you still have to attach the mic to the boom arm. I prefer hanging down as its easier to read copy.Aiming your mouth and head downward tend to restrict your throat and make a great performance more difficult. If you do not get one and are getting bump free recordings, no need to pay for something that brings no benefit. If you get a budget priced shock mount (mostly plastic) and decide to use it it may work well for an extended period of time. When it breaks, you may already have a spare from another mic or fork out the $5 from a Chinese vendor. IF you mount the mic on a "desk mount" you prolly should use a shock mount because you or your talent may inadvertently bump push or annoy the furniture. SO why not? .I do not think investing more than $20 for a shock mount is necessarily a good idea. The cheapies are not robust, but can have a useful and fairly long service life. Anyway . . . . . If you take down your rig after each session and store your mice in it's case you may have picked up this proceddre from working in a commercial studio or live (mics are usually the first things to come down when you strike the set). At home or personal studio? I leave mine up but cover them loosely with an open plastic bag with a moisture absorbing pack from other gear then a kercheif over that whole assembly. Leaving the mic exposed may not be a good idea even if your space is relatively "dust free" as the mic element when energized may attract floatsum to itself. Many mics have an outside coarse pitch metal grill, then a finer porous fabric grill inside that. I've gotten OK results in my DIY mics with no grates for dynamics. For condensers and e- mics as well as ribbons you will probably find some kind of protection will increase the usable life span. Smoking in the presence can seriously impact the performance as the exhaled remnants dispersed in the air will sooner or later compromise the sound quality. If the mic smells like a beer or a cigarette it is quite likely the performance has been degraded. I have a swamp cooler for the AC in my house.I haven't noticed any significant difference on vs off. Living in a hot humid environment consistently may causes issues. Since your personal comfort is at stake as well as your gear, consider the ROI.
@joshuakoter5003 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you've just saved me some money
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help... Cheera and thanks for watching!
@humanmale46103 жыл бұрын
Mounting the boom on another base, other than the desk, also helps. Trial and error and a vivid imagination.
@MarkOakleyComics4 жыл бұрын
Ah. So I evidently own a couple of 'spiders' that I don't actually need. I didn't realize the Procaster already had shock damping installed inside the capsule. I should have read the fine print. Though, to be fair.., Rode's otherwise excellent mic is super awkward to mount without something to hold it up. That, and the shockmounts look pretty neat.
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
It is true..even the re20 and re30 look better with it...just some advice to save some money if needed... If I could go back and forgive all the stupid things I have bought for this studio...I would be able to buy another mic!! Thanks for watching!!
@TheZeebop2007 Жыл бұрын
Great vid (but where were you when I bought the shock mount that kinda looks like a medieval torture device for my RE320? LOL :)) Well, I have a treated space that worked out fine UNTIL I got a new boom arm that is so sensitive that it picks up the slightest movement and then vibrates and transmits the noise everywhere. The shock mount did nothing, so I have ordered a Rode PSA1 to replace that other boom. That other boom could probably be used on haunted house investigations to pick up the spirits of the dearly departed and the Shock Mount can also tag along! Seriously, I'm so glad I found your vid and I thank you!
@laurencemarkmallak30762 жыл бұрын
When using high-end microphones in a live room with 5 0r 6 musicians playing and tapping there feet, "do you need a shock mount", hell yes!
@paulhicks35952 жыл бұрын
As a guy who records sound daily in various locations under various circumstances, shock mounts are a must. The obvious, and ubiquitous, use is on a boom pole but sometimes a mic needs to be mounted where vibrations from things like footsteps or door slams etc. can be picked up. I also find them great with mics on tables where people inadvertently thump the surface. So, in short, they’re great and I carry several. BTW why, for goodness sake, when most pro voice over is done with the sleek 416 shotgun mic a slim booms , do video people like you fill the frame great big ugly large diaphragm mics on gigantic ugly articulated booms and nearly always too close with that horrible proximity effect. Is it because Howard Stern first it? Or, possibly a big mic lends desperately needed credibility. Or, a big mic is just used as compensation for a certain insecurity. When I build a video set ups for clients I always use shotgun mics set a foot to 18 inches away. The sound is crisper and more natural, it’s harder to go off mic and there’s less room reflections. I think the ubiquity of the large diaphragm mic in video casting is more to do with the visual than the aural.
@bullhead2423 жыл бұрын
From someone who used to help manage a broadcast studio and has since helped with podcasts and video series, thanks for going through the scenarios where they are useful and when they're unnecessary. I'd bet a lot of people are buying them for the same reason people buy matte boxes for cameras: people are more likely to take you seriously when you have one.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...same reason SM7Bs have taken off
@JimHancock3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY..... no better way to make a DSLR look like a bone fide movie camera then a big ole Matte Box..... toss in some rails, a big fat follow focus.... LOL
@SvenWolfSwe2 жыл бұрын
You mean beside the fact that matte boxes fill a pretty important purpose? 😉 Yes, they do add some pro feel to it rather than using black paper to block out light
@thegahd Жыл бұрын
Your voice is very soothing with your audio setup! 🙂
@DarkCornerStudios Жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you like it you should check out my other channel @darkcornermedia
@NickiTedesco6 ай бұрын
Thank you soooo much! I just got the TLM 103 and was wondering if I needed the shock mount for a boom arm and now I know…I do not! I’ll check out your Patreon! Many thanks!!!!
@DarkCornerStudios6 ай бұрын
Shame...I shut down that Patreon awhile ago...just on memberships now
@Future_Sounds2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, but you don't talk about on set recording which is where shockmounts really shines.
@eds2803 жыл бұрын
I guess you're kind of right if you only consider a studio use of the mic. When we do something it's normal to think that our scenario is the same for all the rest of the people/situation. But shock mounts are extremely useful and important for outdoor recording... in nature, streets, etc... specially when you are walking, moving or you don't have a tripod or any place to lay the recorder or mic. So maybe you can't realize that there's so so many other situations that one of these would be absolutely perfect. Unless some one is interviewing a chimp, in studio work there's no real need to have one in every case, you are right on that... but outdoors is another world and the simple fact you actually don't know that... it doesn't make shock mounts useless in any way.....
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
You missed the part where I said they WERE necessary sometimes... I was of course referring to studio mics...but I can't imagine why you would be feeling attacked by the video. It wasn't meant for professionals
@eds2803 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios My friend I didn't miss any part, watched the whole thing. My comment was because the whole video is about trying to say that shock mounts are more useless than useful and maybe there's a few moments that they may be somehow helpful. Even the thumbnail on this video clearly says "stop buying these" referring to shocks mounts, obviously. You are talking about shock mounts in general here, so I was trying to tell you that in general, you are missing a pretty big and important part of the picture... maybe more than half. I'm sorry if you don't have experience recording on streets, cars, wildlife, outdoors and many other situations that you are not in control of the conditions like on a studio work. In fact, a studio may be the place where you least need a shock mount, but it doesn't make them useless. On the field, you would be amazed on how this little pieces helps to get clean audio and to keep more records comparing if you were not using them. On the other hand, I don't know why would I, or some one else, feel attacked by a video?? it really makes absolutely no sense at all. Maybe the one that felt attacked here wasn't me. Regards
@eds280 Жыл бұрын
@@Dyonysus777 maybe you're right, maybe not (but that's maybe too much black and white for now)... everyone can choose what they think and how comments/ situations makes them feel.... so anyone can choose that black or that white, or any of the colors between those. Maybe the people liking what I said just thinks different. By the way: Nobody ever said that he shouldn't deffend nor explain anything.... In fact he was the one saying that I felt attacked by his video, thing that makes no sense at all. Seems that maybe you are getting that wrong. Cheers my friend
@KempuraChicken3 жыл бұрын
I use a shock mount because Fraiser Crane had one, even though I don't have an RE20.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
That's one I never thought I would hear. lol. Cheers and thanks for watching!
@pktf753 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos! They are very clear, honest, with your very practical point of view and always with a good vibe (without over doing it, as in the mayority of youtubers...). Ohh, and your voice is very nice! Cheers from Argentina! (Already subscribed and watching your other videos!)
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words!!
@KabukiStarship7 ай бұрын
It all depends on how rigid your mic boom arm is. My boom arm is a VESA monitor mount converted to a document camera with a Presonus Revalator, which is lovely for a desk mic but micks up a lot of rumbles from the desk, even with an XXXL mouse pad. I ordered a sheet of rubber for the desk edge clamo, and I got a Movo SMM5 and I hope that is good enough.
@FREEZEDAKSH3 жыл бұрын
Gamers have a lot of trouble without a shock mount as we need to use the keyboards with loud and clicks and tactile switches. No other option ☹️
@DivineMisterAdVentures3 жыл бұрын
Okay but why not a compromise? - the movo SMM5-B is used atop a camera - something like that could be used in a conventional yoke design and at least do away with most of the hanging hardware (the elastic bands and their metal bits.) Single podcaster seeking unattached SMALL yoke for simple life together kind of thing. I think we would look cool together and cut 70-80% of the arguments.
@reeanimationgaming1034 Жыл бұрын
When ever my microphone is standing on the desk, it makes a humming sound in the recording.. so, a shock mount is defiantly needed for me... I think
@BassBully_l2 жыл бұрын
what is the names of the shockmounts in the thumbnail
@Gman9253 Жыл бұрын
i got a shock mount, pop filter, and boom arm for $20 on amazon. best purchase ever
@amsedelm2 жыл бұрын
I made the financial mistake of buying the EA1 mount for my Neuman TLM102 and, your're right, I don't need it. I am a one person operation and found out the hard way that it's useless with my setup. I don't bump the mic when I record. I don't dance around when I sing. So, thank you for this video. 8))
@DarkCornerStudios2 жыл бұрын
Shame...we have all been there!
@TALKCalgary2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Yep I have been known to adjust a live mike occasionally, but no more than a dozen or so times every day.
@ulfrinn87833 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, but my reasons for shopping for a shock mount are to hold a Wifi/USB microscope that is roughly the same diameter as a microphone. I figure I could stick it in a shock mount, attach it to a gooseneck clamped to my desk and have a functional setup for working on electronics.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea...except...wouldnt that create slight movements in the microscope? I mean...having it on springs would do that...no?
@ulfrinn87833 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios It's more of a way to hold it in case it won't fit into one of the mic clips I have to try on it.
@RipRoaringGarage7 ай бұрын
I randomly get a heavy vibration, like a dump truck rolling by....then its gone, but my voice loses base. So, its probably OBS filtering doing things, and I have no clue how to set things up. Being recording this way or that way, and either I can just record and live with the dump truck... or, I can make the capture radius smaller, but then I have to go in post, and change the volume ever 2.3 seconds, even within the same word. So editing ends up taking me 3-4 days for 15m video. Fun times...in a world where Im competing with channels that post daily, multiple times even, and they stream, and I barely have time to do one video a week...Oh, and trying not to die and seeing doctors, because life. So I think Ill try to hire somebody to set things up, etch those settings in a stone, and NEVER deviate. ITs how I learned computers. Pen and paper, and never change settings. Still have my Windows XP rig for some things, Win7 for others and recording is 10. You are reading this from a Win7 machine
@kumonosu.262 жыл бұрын
Me a gamer who slaps desks : "I need one!"
@thisguy29732 жыл бұрын
For me, my desk vibrations just from typing are coming up through the mic ever since I mounted it to a boom. It’s a blue yeti x, and I’m wondering if a shock mount will help. Advice?
@SmokinFoolz2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Voiceover sounds pro. SUBSCRIBED!!
@HobkinBoi3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if you need a cheap shock mount, just build one yourself. and for a mic stand you could probably use one of those arms that are used for lamps.
@AnonYmous-en7op3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't quite work since you need a mic arm that can hold weight so you'll need to ensure the lamp arm won't droop from the added mic + shock mount + pop weight.
@HowYouMove8 ай бұрын
I have a Onstage desktop mic stand & the AKG P-120 mic & I was thinking about just getting the $10 PEMOTech Pop filter from Amazon & not a shock mount after seeing your video
@KristianDowling3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@VJFranzK2 ай бұрын
What shock mount should I have to replace the stock one for Aston Element? It's not reliable!
@B.P.hiphop6 ай бұрын
Bro my tlm 102 has no shock mount and for 165 thats alot of money. Luke holy shit in 2 years ive never recorded a shock wave. I apreciate this opinion saved me 165 bucks
@BKMorpheus2 жыл бұрын
Although I don't have a mechanical keyboard, my desk is transferring every key press and every slight contact to my desk through the Rode PSA1 into my Presonus PD70 (and it's not just rumble below 100Hz, so a low cut is not helping much). I whish more dynamic broadcast mics would have better shock mounting options built in. I asked Thomann if the Podmic or t.bone MB7 will handle desk vibrations better than my PD70, but they told me, in their tests, all of them are relatively bad with desk vibrations (SM7B might be better, but way more expensive).
@DIGITALBOX013 жыл бұрын
Good, informative, entertaining, and straight to the point. Great video mate.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Cheers and thanks for watching!!
@JeffBourke3 жыл бұрын
My experience is a blue yeti in rigid stand sitting on the same table as a PC definitely needs one.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Then the mic is so big you cant see past it...lol
@JaxDobba2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend shock mounts for budget Microphones though? Like the Fifine or maybe gaming ones from HyperX and Razer that cost ~$50? I was considering a boom arm + shockmount but it seems like it's not that necessary. What do you think?
@iiSup3rior3 жыл бұрын
I'm a mic grabber. I go from sitting to standing different positions when I sit etc. But I can't seem to find a shockmount for the podmic. Any recommendation?
@KempuraChicken2 жыл бұрын
Yoke mounted mics are borderline impossible to get shockmounts for, due to the aforementioned yoke. I've seen advertised a shockmount for the sm7b that looks like the kind you would get for a Yeti, but the thing I would be concerned it about is that the 5/8th threading on Rode mics doesn't go very deep, so I would be concerned about the hold.
@iiSup3rior2 жыл бұрын
@KempuraChicken I bought one cos people recommended using the sm7b one. Which doesn't really need one cos the diaphram is basically shock mounted within the mic anyways. but it didn't work I think I'd have to get a procaster mic instead. The podmic just isn't good enough and it has shock mounted diaphram as well but from reviews people call it bullshit I can't grab the podmic without hearing the whole thing sound horrible.
@RegalRegex3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful, thank you! I ended up buying a shockmount + pop filter for my Rode Procaster thinking I'd need them, but after watching this I can see you're totally right + now I can more easily grab + adjust the mic when needed, so double win! Not to mention that the pop filter was too short to even work w/ this mic anyways haha. Gonna return it, get my money back and throw you a couple of those $$$ Cheers! ✌
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Cheers and thanks for watching!
@jcstrabo3 жыл бұрын
You say the pop filter is too short for the Procaster - just a heads up - you aren't trying to talk into it from the side, but you do from the end? Just a not so uncommon mistake to make. Also the WS2 is ideal for the Procaster, as it is very, very sensitive to plosives if you aren't careful.
@geraldhenrickson74723 жыл бұрын
My Blue Yeti needs something. It is a surface vibration sensor that only looks like a podcast microphone. I am not sure why it does not come with sorbothane pads on the bottom. I guess its time to put it on a arm. Thanks for the video.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Cheers and thanks for watching!
@mooseyexists3 жыл бұрын
you NEED an arm for one, mine just came and it’s leagues better
@Jivolt3 жыл бұрын
Same here. If I barely touch my desk it sounds like a subwoofer in the audio.
@woxocastingtwitch Жыл бұрын
I need help. I have the sm58 at home and i wanna put it on a boom arm. What boom arm and What mic holder clip do i need? Or do i need a shockmount to hold the mic up idk
@DarkCornerStudios Жыл бұрын
No shockmount needed...just use the clip that came with the mic. Literally any boom arm will work....though the more you spend...the better your experience...especially with springs and such. I recommend at least the Rode PSA1
@woxocastingtwitch Жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Thanks for the fast answer! :)
@xangelux Жыл бұрын
I was about to buy that exact shock mount for my new RE320 just because I thought I needed it… thank you for this video, I surely am not one of those mic grabbers
@rexromae173 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, it solved my doubts!
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Glad I could help
@PeteJohnsMusic4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Really important topic. 👍 (And for the record, I have never purchased a separate shock mount)
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
Nice...though I dont think I could judge you if you had. Cheers!
@calista9102 жыл бұрын
does the samson g track pro need a shock mount please let me know? I. want great quality during a conference call and ill be workigj as a csr so idk! do you think id need a boom arm for this mic?
@lbm66862 жыл бұрын
Gonna be getting my first actual mic ever. Getting the 2035, do I have to use the shock mount or can I hook it up without? Seems pretty bulky
@DarkCornerStudios2 жыл бұрын
It comes with a shockmount I believe...you are safe. Also...nice choice for first mic
@DarkCornerStudios2 жыл бұрын
Oh no. That is a vintage Neumann u89i. It's about $3k. That said...the NT1A is a decent purchase and I think it's about $250. Very nice mic
@Metabohai3 жыл бұрын
I dont know if i have a bad arm or my mic is really sensitive. But simple stuff like putting my controller on my table. Or typing on the keys is really audible throught the mic. Its not only picking up the sound they make but the deep rumble from my table through the microphone arm. So you always have a bass layer when im typing moving my arms or whatever. So im not sure if I should turn down my microphone sensitivity or just buy a shock mount
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
What mic and what boom arm?
@Metabohai3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Im using the Blue Yeti X with the cheap Tonor boom arm from amazon. Im super satisfied but i hear every vibration from my table.
@otszzz7927 күн бұрын
Guess the arm is clamped to the desk right? Just mount a bracket or piece of wood to the wall with some rubber dampers between the bracket and the wall and clamp the arm to it. Then you can bump the desk as much you like
@Metabohai27 күн бұрын
@@otszzz79 i resolved it with a shock mount 3 years ago haha. It wasnt that expensive anyways.
@DemonLordGamingAC02 жыл бұрын
Thank you KZbin, for recommending this after I bought mine. It was a pretty cheap 3d printed one, so It's fine, it came with the arm, for my Blue Yeti :D
@polerin3 жыл бұрын
I mean you're right, most circumstances it doesn't really make difference. But... not everyone can just stay in one place not making percussive impacts on their desk surface. I unfortunately stream programming, and the combination of two very large monitors with banging on my keyboard like a fiend means I have to both move the mic to look at different screens and have to handle percussive noise. *facepalm* Neat video though.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...live generally is the exception to the rule...especially if it's extended live. I feel for you....most businesses have upped the prices of shockmounts just because it's the big companies buying them
@benoittissier583 жыл бұрын
Aston actually claim that there is no need for a shock mount thanks to the internal suspension of the capsule.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Yet they sell one...lol
@BDworldeditz2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you have a different mic that doesn’t have a hole for the adapter on the boom arm then yes
@Stooch2 жыл бұрын
I guess you don't have much an opinion for gaming, but I constantly have bumping and typing sounds and wonder if a shock mount will help or a stand?
@DarkCornerStudios2 жыл бұрын
Stands are generally horrible. Try connecting the boom to something OTHER than the desk. Otherwise get some foam to put between the desk and boom arm
@SebasstianTheSinger3 жыл бұрын
Why are Tlm 103 nickels so expensive? Are they basically shocks mounts?
@andrewhamblen7599 Жыл бұрын
What if I bought it used and it came without the shock mount or the pop filter, but it normally would? I bought a used rode NT-1 and it didn't come with either, just the mic itself.
@innercynic27843 жыл бұрын
Perception is "reality". Why you ask? Case in point... SM7B sells because so many people see it and think "Hey!... If I want to be a big timey podcasting demigod I'll need to grab me one of those"... and a Cloud thingy or Fetlifter
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Yep...in fact the price of the SM7B has gone up since it took off... Its sad...
@unprotecteddex30203 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for explaining, I will save my money!
@twiglet22143 жыл бұрын
I'm a newbie recordalist and was getting low quality audio from my subject - i called it lessybels - but seriously loud handling noise including hearing my own breathing but it improved vastly when someone pointed out i was holding the boom pole the wrong way round ! Looks like the default is buy a shock mount regardless so thanks to watching you i'm going to try the mic mounts that came with the mics ( Lewitt LCT 140 Air,matched pair ) and see how it goes so thanks for sharing.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
I mean this with ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD. But STOP TOUCHING THE BOOM!!! Watch professionals record. You should never touch a mic while doing any kind of recording. EVER. If you can retrain your brain...you will notice a massive upswing in your quality...and its FREE!
@twiglet22143 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Boom Boom ! Thanks for that i'll heed your advice.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@twiglet2214 cheers. Now don't get me wrong...shockmounts are necessary sometimes...but generally they are purchased to correct user error.
@fuegofreh36482 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point! Thanks for the info!
@EdwardLaurenson3 жыл бұрын
3:44 Haha, that was smooth
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Lol...one of my finer moments. Patreon now deleted. Carry on...lol
@BlindGuardian0502 жыл бұрын
You missed a big reason to have one, if you are using a mic and typing it does transfer those key noise through the arm to the mic and it's very unpleasant
@mnicholson20034 жыл бұрын
I was tempted to buy the shock mount for my RE20...now I don't really have to. Love your channel!! Thanks again for another great video!!
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure...and yeah...biggest waste of money...though they do look "broadcast-y" for whatever thats worth. Cheers!
@unclereg77134 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty big mic there might not be to many other options to hold it other than the ubiquitous giant shock mount.
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
@@unclereg7713 The whole re lineup comes with its own clip...no issues whatsoever
@mnicholson20034 жыл бұрын
@@unclereg7713 They are a big mic but they come with a decent mounting bracket that easily supports it.
@unclereg77134 жыл бұрын
I bought a Neumann tlm102 but didn’t want to shell out for the more exquisite Neumann mount and am quite happy with its basic model that came with the mic.
@ee1yd3 жыл бұрын
I got one so my mic would weigh down my boom arm
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thats amazing...never thought of getting one for a paperweight...
@manualofalternativemusic4 жыл бұрын
THANKS bro, this video is just what I needed!!
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
Anytime! Thanks for watching!!
@TheDohyo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@aranoilean54808 ай бұрын
i have a shock mount , and i would like to change or having a second mount no shock one , what is not easy bcs my mic is kind of large like the Sure. , .. MXL 770 to be precise advantage come with disavantage .. 1st, CHangind rubber band every few months its really annoying, and if you dont change it, your mic go all over the place and touch de side of the mount .. 2nd : your mic have to stay in a certain positiion with a classic shockmount , not horizontaly for example,, so yeah,, ppl need to think about that,, and not buy that bcs it look cool
@im3sob Жыл бұрын
if you have solo cast you should buy shock mount if u just touch the microphone It will make a terrible sound
@chrisfor3 жыл бұрын
You got an Alton Brown vibe going. Nice work.
@egyfirst3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. very honest advice
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TRXST.ISSUES4 жыл бұрын
Great content - always rooting for your channel
@DarkCornerStudios4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man...I am rooting for me too... Cheers!
@raissiocinando2316 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! You probably made me save almost R$ 500 for a while. Well, that's a lot of money here in Brazil...
@theoutsiderjess18693 жыл бұрын
I didn't buy a shockmount for my first boom arm cause one its expensive and two idk if it good for my blue yeti. I also don't know if I need a blue yeti screw adapter to screw into the boom arm
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
You need the shockmount I believe. I may be wrong... Someone else might know better.
@MaltesTechnik3 жыл бұрын
Did you really mentioned the Rode Procaster because of its internal shockmount? I like the Procaster, but the internal shockmount is just as good as the internal pop filter, so both kind of sucks
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Usually internal shockmounts...as well as the pop filter are meant for minor issues...not really for egregious use. That said...the shockmount on the sm58 is amazing. Fair point though
@aussierule3 жыл бұрын
A good way to end it all of is to understand WHY you're buying a shock mount for your mic. If you don't know why, you don't need one.
@UnderScoredd3 жыл бұрын
A blue ember does not come with a shock mount, but it indeed benefits oh so much from it. It's kind of sensitive. The shock mounts pretty cheap about $18
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie...it can make for a much better experience...and most of this is directed at dynamic mics with shockmounts... Cheers and thanks for watching!
@zunk44353 жыл бұрын
did this pop up when looking for blue ember shock mounts? i think he mentioned that condensers can be justified with shock mounts, too
@shaun_evox3 жыл бұрын
i stream COD on facebook and i do get excited at times and hit my table and when i rewatch my stream without the shock mount for my Elgato Wave 3 it sounded harsh 😅 so i needed the shock mount hahah 😝
@menarussell2 жыл бұрын
Thank youuu for your info. :)
@cornbonzo7027 Жыл бұрын
well, i'm convinced
@realfingertrouble3 жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap boom arm and shockmount for my ATR2020+ USB - mainly cos it's a condenser mic and I knew from the old ATR2020 XLR I had, if it's attached to a desk as mine is, it can transmit noise when DJing. Sure if you have seperate boom arms, probably don't need it unless someone is hitting the boom arm. Desk attached ones with a wobbly desk like mine and I am using a controller on said desk = recipe for bumps. But when I used a Sennheiser e835? No shockmount. WHO puts shockmounts on dynamic mics? That's craziness. The whole point of most dynamic mics is they have handling rejection for stage/live use, so don't usually pass on noise in a boom? Didn't when I used them in the supplied thingummy - what are they called, those plastic 'cradle' things for dynamic mics? Attachment doobry.
@kukukachu2 жыл бұрын
Shock mount is also an aesthetic.
@a.whyattmann50572 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@rileyvosper4113 жыл бұрын
I kinda need this to help my blue yeti with its stock stannd stop picking up sounds from a very clicky keyboard, I tested picking up my mic off the desk while clicking, and I could not hear it. So I will be getting a shock mount and boom arm so I can get near pro sound quality for recording.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...probably the biggest issue with desk mics...other than the distance from your mouth.
@rileyvosper4113 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Yeh, the distance was my main problem. also, great channel, you replied in less than 30 minutes and you have a amazing video, easy sub from me.
@DarkCornerStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@rileyvosper411 cheers! Thanks for the kind words and support!!