Do you need ND Filters on a Drone?

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Jeven Dovey

Jeven Dovey

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@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey Жыл бұрын
Graded with my Drone & Adventure LUTs: geni.us/STngny
@petermclennan6781
@petermclennan6781 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a retired Hollywood cinematographer. Everything you said is spot on. There are a rew very limited use cases for ND filters, in which case, they're essential. Otherwise, nobody notices, nobody cares. Especially, as you say, when viewed on a phone.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 2 жыл бұрын
LOL just like this obsession with 4K
@thecorporategypsy
@thecorporategypsy Жыл бұрын
So ND filters are really not needed, esp on bright days?!
@Talpiot_Program
@Talpiot_Program Жыл бұрын
. My eyes tell me what I see. ND filters on Mini 3 and Air 3 a huge difference on bright days. Circling shots on landmarks.
@zawaprz
@zawaprz Жыл бұрын
I'm surprise that as retired Hollywood cinematographer you did not notice it is not 'apple to apple' setups what other people observed immediately about scene differences??? I hope this channel is not to 'influence' based on 'paid' campaigns??? (hidden or obvious). I say as not as 'experienced' bast way is just to test out yourself taking careful notes, and check on big screen outcome, not just phone. In a time, you will know what works best... Also I'd say having 'logs' you are free to change hue as well an easy way - another aspect of 'more professional and cinematic' setup (more warm colors).
@cardbored_
@cardbored_ Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been more helpful for us novices if the comparison clips were of the same scene. 3:00 it's kind of hard for me to tell the differences when I'm comparing two totally different scenes. Still really appreciate all the work you put into the content!
@thecorporategypsy
@thecorporategypsy Жыл бұрын
It would have been a more effective demo if the scenes with/without ND filters were the same. The light, clouds, terrain are different and it makes a difference. As a beginner I am using the ND filter to try and control exposure ie prevent over exposure.
@zawaprz
@zawaprz Жыл бұрын
E X A C T L Y
@zawaprz
@zawaprz Жыл бұрын
I think like with high end flagship phones... lots of over exposures can be controlled with AI???
@harmonichealings
@harmonichealings 3 жыл бұрын
Save me money. Thanks Jeven. I did an Air 2s video in full sun at the beach with no ND and it nailed the exposure.
@tedcraft2193
@tedcraft2193 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. At last, someone who actually knows what he is talking about. Thanks. You've done everyone a service. At least a dozen drone KZbinrs propagate the meme that NDs are a must. In some specific use cases, sure. As a rule of thumb, no. And you can save money by buying one in the mid range that you will occasionally need as opposed to a whole set.
@jason-basin
@jason-basin 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they ARE a must if you are shooting in fully manual mode. That's just the way the mathematics of exposure works. It's been like that since the dawn of cinema. You are not taking advantage of like 80 percent of what the Mavic Pro has to offer if you are not shooting in full manual mode. Sorry, not trying to be confrontational, I just disagree when you say they are not a must. They are a must if you are seeking professional level quality that matches specific specs.
@tedcraft2193
@tedcraft2193 3 жыл бұрын
@@jason-basin Being confrontational is fine, being inaccurate is not. The "mathematics" of exposure are simple. Shutter speed and aperture are inversely proportional. If, to achieve a particular effect, you need to set a particular aperture, you will need to adjust shutter speed proportionately. And vice versa. Under certain lighting conditions, an ND may be required to strike the proper balance. That hardly makes them a "must." As for the notion that one should always operate in manual, in point of fact the odds are you will get the most out of your Mavic lens if you apply the time-honored photography rule "f/8 and be there." That's the sweet spot of almost every quality lens ever made, which is why many photojournalists still shoot in aperture priority. Exceptions would be achieving a particular depth of field or the corresponding shutter speed not cooperating. That's how it works. And, for the vast majority of DJI users, auto exposure does the job just fine. There are few, if any, musts.
@rogeliorogel8690
@rogeliorogel8690 2 жыл бұрын
There might be a variant which is natural illumination, so if you are in a place as sunny as I am in, a lot of the times for most cameras the autoshutter creates a Stacatto effect, and especially if the natural constrast varies a lot, you absolutely NEED to use manual mode, if you want professional quality. That being said here in this desertic part of Mexico where I live, you DEFINITELY need to use ND filters, I cant begin to tell you how painful it was to see the footage of my camera being blown out for not having the filters...and YES it is a pain to having to switch them all the time throughout the shoot
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeven, love you channel and the explanation in this video was clear and concise. One piece of criticism is that the example shots weren't very illustrative to me, as they were quite different from one another. I appreciate that it's super difficult to recreate a shot, let alone using a drone, but having a moving car in one shot vs no car at all in the other shot doesn't really illustrate what you're trying to say.
@jodokcello
@jodokcello 2 жыл бұрын
Makes it sense to use nd filters also in auto-modus?
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir 3 жыл бұрын
The differences I would see are mostly not to do with motion blur obviously. The ND filter footage resembles TV/film footage in lighting and style. Professionals probably need them for specific reasons. I leave the ND 4 filter provided in the Fly More Combo on my Air 2S to act as a protective layer in front of the camera, not because I want that specific 'look' in my footage.
@thecorporategypsy
@thecorporategypsy Жыл бұрын
Thats an interesting thought ie leaving it on for protection
@SharpGIS
@SharpGIS 3 жыл бұрын
None of those examples even remotely demonstrates the jitteryness I get without without my ND filters. It almost feel shaky and unwatchable with a fast shutterspeed. Also your comparison shots are completely different shots in different lighting.
@willweaver5024
@willweaver5024 3 жыл бұрын
Try watching again from 2:38. That seems to be addressed.
@Leeandemma88
@Leeandemma88 Жыл бұрын
That will be because your shutter speed is likely a lot faster than in his particular video. Also are you shooting at 24gps, 30fps or 60fps. It all plays a part.
@Talpiot_Program
@Talpiot_Program Жыл бұрын
Amen. Glad someone else said it. My footage 30fps with filters is buttery smooth. HUGE difference. Just getting into it. Air3 and MINI 3prp
@themoosegaming6352
@themoosegaming6352 10 ай бұрын
I was about to male the same comment. At least show the pro settings your using as the same with the same or as close to the same flight path on the same day at the same location to give a accurate comparison
@djmouglie
@djmouglie 7 ай бұрын
I don't get any jittery footage without ND .. but I shoot at 60fps. But for me 24fps looks like a jittery mess no matter what camera or settings, I'm just not really used to such low frame rates anymore. But yer maybe if that is the case an nd is a very good idea.
@Backcountryhiker
@Backcountryhiker 5 ай бұрын
To be honest, I really like the COLOR and sharpness of the videos without the ND filters! Now, I don't know how strong a filter you were using but I bought a 4ND filter WITH polarizing. I may return that filter and simply replace it with a plain polarizing filter with no ND. Thanks for the info!
@HippieP629
@HippieP629 3 жыл бұрын
For me, it's all about cutting down the sun's glare. W/o filtering, clouds and sky are blown out. With filtering, I can adjust the difference. I've wasted so much time when I first started not having those shades on. That always trumps blur / not blur for me. Close-up fast shots: shades for any glare and motion blur. Far away panning: shades for glare. Motion blur isn't a factor at that distance anyway
@natebridge1663
@natebridge1663 3 жыл бұрын
yeah exactly. I try to use them for the motion blur rule, but my main use case is keeping the contrast of the clouds and sky when filming a horizon shot. it makes a HUGE quality difference, especially at sunset when the sun is super low and trying to blow out your image. I don't take a ton of photos, I mostly do video with my drone, and I feel like filters are a must-have for this type of thing
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot when the sun is lower. Its all about timing in the sky- you can't set up like you could on the ground.... so you use the time of day for your lighting
@monkhworth1030
@monkhworth1030 11 ай бұрын
​So filters stop it form being time essential, heck that a good enough reason to purchase them rather than waiting on the sun to set i would say.​@@Matanumi
@jonathansciacca7033
@jonathansciacca7033 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, some that doesn’t push the prophecy of Nd filters . 👏 Most of the times the fuss outweighs the small quality gains… not to mention that if you are a beginner, you can easily damage the gimbal by forgetting to install/remove only when the drone is turned off
@FAKoLL
@FAKoLL 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone honest and impartial explaining all pros and cons with video examples. Looking around seems like we absolutely need nd filters and that will make us pro (or at least not worthless noobs) but thats not how it works, and it could lead to problems and mistakes (like the blurry photo example) for who is still learning. Well subscriber earned. Good job
@PilotVolunteer
@PilotVolunteer 8 ай бұрын
What is the 180 rule?
@bobs-Videos
@bobs-Videos 3 жыл бұрын
I found using polarizing ND filters "pop" some colors, aside from the fact they are suppose to be neutral on my Mini 2. I usually have to shift the WB to a bit cooler temp to get a truer color.
@kuba1359
@kuba1359 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I've got a rookie question perhaps. I bought the whole set of those nd filters from farewell for my DJI MINI 2. And the NDPL filters there have a movable circle around, there are two tiny white lines to mark the postion of the rotation. My question is what influence does this rotation have? I mean if the white lines are aligned it is maks polarizing efect or min poalrizing efect?
@SteveS-hc3km
@SteveS-hc3km 3 жыл бұрын
Hold the filter up to the light and rotate while looking through it. You’ll see the light darken as you add more polarisation
@griponroadtrip
@griponroadtrip 2 жыл бұрын
Great helpful video, Jeven I have a question here. Motion blur is one aspect with ND Filters. Aren't ND filters necessary if you have a bright sunny day or an overcast/cloudy day? I live in a country where its bright sunshine all year round. I think I need to have respective filter mounted on my drone to manage it, Don't I? Please guide me on this? Thanks!
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the proper use of ND filters, and then testing them in field and showing people the difference they make in a world setting. Great video Jeven, and thanks for sharing.
@SaltyVetAdventures
@SaltyVetAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like a ND filter probably shouldn't be your first upgrade to your drone. I would say extra battery or other accessories first.
@atmclick
@atmclick 3 жыл бұрын
Extra batteries were my first additional purchase :D
@JasonR014
@JasonR014 Жыл бұрын
As many vids talk about having ND filters because of motion blur, this video is the best since it says even motion blur is not necessary! And thanks for reminding situations for switching between video and pics
@TriniWeekes
@TriniWeekes 3 жыл бұрын
beside the obvious sharpness with the non ND filters shots. Question, if you have drone like a mavic 2 pro that have a variable aperture could I make adjustments to get a properly exposed image without ND filters?
@51Drones
@51Drones 3 жыл бұрын
Freewell’s email list just got a bit shorter. 😁
@alexanderstaridas311
@alexanderstaridas311 3 жыл бұрын
I see a difference in fast speeds.I personally fly in cine mode so this will make my life easier.Thank you very much, great video!!
@ChrisSendrey
@ChrisSendrey Жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for this video. I thought I was going crazy trying to get my video to look better with the filters, and most of the time having my videos actually look worse because of my inexperience with the filters And putting the wrong one on by mistake. My I’m getting much better footage is much higher without filters, but hearing you explain, it helps so much to confirm what my gut was telling me.
@kingdavidthedogo6639
@kingdavidthedogo6639 Жыл бұрын
@5:30 So with ND off the bright blue skies turn to sunset? @6:30 ND changes seasons and adds snow to the ground? Great Comparison.
@IsomPhilips
@IsomPhilips Жыл бұрын
From experience I would say that buying a set of ND filters is as waste of money for the most part. You'll probably wind up using the higher strengths like ND 32 and ND 64 and even those you would only need to use in certain situations as your video suggests. One of the best breakdowns on the use of ND filters I've seen on KZbin.
@Raxx1111
@Raxx1111 4 ай бұрын
yes.. I planned to buy the ND64 and CPL filter only.. coz most of the nd filters I may never use it later. but then I found the K&F single adjustable range ND filter ND32 - ND 256. SO I bought that instead. also the CPL only filter
@genasinfo
@genasinfo 3 жыл бұрын
Personally to me, Nd off videos are more clear, bright juicy colours and more pleasant to watch. I've just got my filters from delivery, but haven't tested them yet. Thanks for video. It's quite right that Nd is not of high necessity, because all "pro's" say that you won't have life without Nd.. ))
@bamlattefly
@bamlattefly Ай бұрын
You have to use nd because with d cinelog and edit it as raw
@Kryptic1189
@Kryptic1189 3 жыл бұрын
Far off backgrounds on fast panning shots are very noticeable with high shutter speeds. I noticed the No ND pan was much slower than the ND On pan. This is why that was less noticeable.
@PilotVolunteer
@PilotVolunteer 8 ай бұрын
My brothers and I are going fishing in northern Canada at the Grass River Lodge. I plan to take my DJI Mini 4 Pro along. I purchased ND Polarized filters, for example (ND64PL). My understanding is that polarized ND filters are useful for sunny days in a boat while on the water. Is this correct?
@Oldmanmatt
@Oldmanmatt 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video - but as someone who's shooting exclusively in the Florida sun, over the water 90% of the time, I would think ND or PL would be a must. Especially if i want to see through the water at any sea life that may be stalking the beach. Am I wrong?
@thesoundsmith
@thesoundsmith 2 жыл бұрын
My problem - very much a newbie at the topic - I'm comparing one shot with bright white ground vs one with browns and greens. One is psychologically brighter and interferes with making distinctions. But also, I never view on MY phone, that's what my monitors are for. (I refuse to shoot vertically, too much info lost when watched on 16:9...)
@pilotupnorth1307
@pilotupnorth1307 4 ай бұрын
So, higher shutter speed would cause stutters? I have stutterers flying my Phantom 4 but no stutterers flying my mini 3. I don’t know if the stutters are related to shutter speed. I never thought about it!
@EDSC_CANADA
@EDSC_CANADA 7 ай бұрын
The one differences video editing, if you edit on a 24 FPS timeline with 30 FPS footage then you’ll drop four frames every second which will make it look jittery, regardless of any filter or not
@samfraulino
@samfraulino 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Arizona, very very bright most days, I use a ND16 on at all times. It helps a bit.
@KentRoads
@KentRoads 2 жыл бұрын
would a lower shutter speed affect the battery consumption?
@mondujar279
@mondujar279 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I didn’t see much of a difference between shots in terms of blur, but I.preferred the non ND shots for clarity and sharpness.
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck 2 жыл бұрын
That's… literally the difference.
@EdGoPlaces
@EdGoPlaces Жыл бұрын
Tons of value shared from this video. I'm returning my ND filter tomorrow,
@alanabley525
@alanabley525 Жыл бұрын
Is a HD filter more important for the F1.7 on a mini 3 pro. Thanks for your info.
@findingjoe
@findingjoe 3 жыл бұрын
On my 4k TV yeah see a huge difference. The non nd filter clips look super sharp and vibrant where as the the nd filter clips look soft. I like the sharp look and I like the soft look so depends on the feel or video you're going for.
@booogik
@booogik 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I got to this video but it was really interesting to watch it. Maybe cause I've got a drone. As I'm filming a lot, I can tell you that this comparison is a bit incorrect. You're filming in the open space, with one or two moving objects. Trees doesn't count, cause that's how people's brain work. You introduce them with the main object of the scene. In your example it's a car. Everything around is just checked momentarily just to understand where the object is. That's all, but now, move to a scene where are a lot of fast moving objects. For example you're filming a chase in a city with a lot of moving objects. If you won't use ND filter, the scene will be without motion blur. And the watchers brain will be stuttering. Cause everything looks the same. Now, we use ND, and put our main subjects in the center of the frame. Everything around them will be a bit blurry. The brain still understands where is the main object, it understands where the scene goes and you literally blur out everything unnecessary. It's like you're telling viewers where to watch and where you want them to look at that moment. That's why you really need filters. Also, you didn't mention the CPL filter. Cause I literally hate when everybody who wants to film oceans, beaches etc aren't using them in a sunny day. Cause literally half of the scene is gone by sun's reflection on the water. You have to go through a lot of mistakes to understand how this thing works. Also, you use NDs to make scene a bit darker, if you can't correct exposure or iso... It's also one of the first rules.. You can make dark image brighter. Yeah, it's a bit hard sometimes because of the noise, but doable. And you CAN'T fix overexposed scene. If you overexposed the sky you literally can't fix it. In the white color there's no info about the correct color. It's just a white blank... I've used this rule all my life. Saved me a lot of footage. Sometimes you just can't see it right on the filming spot. And than you watch footage at home on a big screen and that's unusable...
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a video on the subject
@booogik
@booogik 3 жыл бұрын
@@JevenDovey oh, if you're asking, a will try to make a couple. 👌
@hdemetri
@hdemetri 3 жыл бұрын
You can't educate enough on this subject. In your last comparison while tracking the car, the difference in video quality is minor. The scene was during sunset while the filter was off and full day while filter was on. Since the shutter was probably a bit slower for the sunset, you were able to get slight motion blur without the need for a filter. In my own experience, I use an ND4 or nothing for low light or sunsets and it still looks pretty good although we are still above the 180 degree rule. I think for landscape videos, the 180 degree rule does not make a big difference. That rule seems to work best when filming low to the ground with people or fast moving subjects.
@HisRep
@HisRep 5 ай бұрын
Question, with a 30FPS drone like the Mini 3 that I just ordered, don't I need the ND filter to make the image less stuttering? With 60FPS it's a lot easier to get less stuttering image as I experience with my pocket 3. So I'm afraid that in sunny summer conditions a 30FPS 4K drone shot also needs at least and ND5 to make this some easier in a lot of situations? I get it when you're really high in the sky but just circling around an object I soon see stuttering with my pocket 3. I can't imagine that this doesn't happen with drone close-up shots?
@kevinr1960
@kevinr1960 9 ай бұрын
What type of filter do you need to photograph the solar eclipse using the DJI Mavic 3?
@Cinedrones_sc
@Cinedrones_sc Жыл бұрын
cant ii just add motion blur post filming when editing? Would u say the "natural" motion blur is cleaner?
@lee_michae1
@lee_michae1 11 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I've recently bought my first drone and was close to buying a set of ND filters. But looking at your examples here, I'd much prefer to have sharper looking video than blurry footage. They might be useful for long exposure photos though or if it's a really bright day.
@volkanocak9974
@volkanocak9974 5 ай бұрын
While shooting a drone in daylight, he noticed that the white buildings were shining a lot. In this case, would it help if I used nd filter?
@SubashCanapathy
@SubashCanapathy Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic explanation as to why nailing exposure matters more than motion blur. One constructive feedback..you should add as an annotation to the video is that every time you say ND off its implicit that you are saying the shutter speed can be varied or set to auto if needed - if someone is new to photography/videography they might not catch that and it might seem to give them the opinion that NDoff vs NDon while everything else is auto.
@tonofdrones
@tonofdrones 4 ай бұрын
The ND on examples look like there's some color LUT. Does the ND change the colors?
@walasfilms
@walasfilms Жыл бұрын
although there are some filters that kinda make the image look better, some of them kinda pop some colors or dehaze mountains at a long distance and stuff like that
@Raxx1111
@Raxx1111 4 ай бұрын
yes.. I planned to buy the ND64 and CPL filter only.. coz most of the nd filters I may never use it later. but then I found the K&F single adjustable range ND filter ND32 - ND 256. SO I bought that instead. also the CPL only filter
@dj_hannah
@dj_hannah 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think the filters are a great addition but as you say, not necessary. Better to spend time learning to tell the story and shoot better content before adding the complexity of the filters. Thanks.
@d.g1598
@d.g1598 Жыл бұрын
is the shutter speed same for both examples on this video?
@theamericantravelguy
@theamericantravelguy 7 ай бұрын
at the 6:30 mark you are confusing the audience with 2 different images with ND on or Off different areas.
@windgod1979
@windgod1979 11 ай бұрын
Better bay ND FILTERS or DJI Mini 3 Pro Wide-Angle Lens were I going to be noticeably?
@ACEventure
@ACEventure 3 жыл бұрын
I've ended up with some over/under exposed footage trying to fix my shutter speed and guess at the right ND filter on my mavic air with no aperture adjustment. I want to quickly get my drone up and get some footage with minimal interruption to the adventure and for me it seems not worth it. I'll still slap an ND on there if it is sunny, but have mostly given up on trying to fix the shutter speed.
@Blazemalta
@Blazemalta 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate (like all your others) and you're so good at explaining. If I'm understanding correctly, the filters are only needed for the motion blur effect. But I'm from sunny Malta in Europe and I mainly use auto on my Mini 2 videos. So when it's sunny and I set my EV to -0.7 or -1.. is this best way to reduce that white wash? I'd prefer not buying filters not to mess around with my gimbal.
@f8tlbyte
@f8tlbyte 3 жыл бұрын
I use mine on my 2S for long exposure pics and on sunny days. Even with the VND's its a pain though.
@benjamin.kelley
@benjamin.kelley 3 жыл бұрын
Been struggling to get a good picture quality out of my DJI Mini 2, using freewell ND/PL filters and keeping shutter speed at 1/double frame rate, and exposure pretty good. Picture quality just looks really grainy in 1080, 2.7k and 4k. Any tips? Or do I just need a better drone with a bigger sensor?
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 3 жыл бұрын
When you use the ND filter is your iso going up? To get the least amount of noise you should shoot at the lowest iso and make sure your exposing not too dark. If you boost the image in editing you’ll introduce more noise
@markmiskill6635
@markmiskill6635 3 жыл бұрын
There didn't seem to be a lot of air movement in your videos. Breezy days with tree branches swaying with the wind present a different scenario altogether.
@marctrainor5595
@marctrainor5595 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that all but the last moving truck shot in the series, with the n/d filter, the color and or perceived sharpness seemed a little softer, maybe. I thought the shots without the n/d's seemed a little brighter or crispier. I'm wondering if the N/D filters are changing the color somewhat. I liked the look of the last truck shot where the grey truck is moving towards the left with a nice blue sky seemed kind of the best of both worlds. It seemed sharp and bright, but not too crisp or even jittery. Hmmmmm. Maybe I'm losing my mind "and" my eyesight, but thanks for this valuable video. Marc T.
@rlrrlrll
@rlrrlrll Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for this thorough explanation! Where did you film these short clips? Especially the nd off footage looks very interesting to go with a awd car!
@irondronemedia8232
@irondronemedia8232 3 жыл бұрын
Would you also do a video on polarized filters please? I live in a coastal area, so plan on flying around or over water.
@erickcruzm.24
@erickcruzm.24 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding content delivery as usual. Learning is cool.
@mavicairflyeruk
@mavicairflyeruk 3 жыл бұрын
hey buddy we learning all time :)
@theadventureon
@theadventureon Жыл бұрын
My question is which rating ND filter do you use the most?
@wheatlandsoul
@wheatlandsoul Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeven, My little Mini 2 take’s great footage in softer, even light, like when it’s overcast. If it’s sunny, really bright, like it almost always is in SE Utah, the shadows are so dark. Can ND filters help with this? Like put on a filter to darken everything, then turn up the exposure to lighten everything, maybe reducing the contrast? Or…
@zawaprz
@zawaprz Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed you are comparing fast moving drone (time: 6:00) but why are you take one shot against Sun, and the other behind you? I'd rather see the same exactly framing, that is having same position of Sun... I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES OR NOT contributes to whatever we observer??
@mikegc3816
@mikegc3816 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what ND Filters do you recommend for the DJI Mini 3 Pro - thanks
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey Жыл бұрын
Polar pro and Freewell both make good filters
@davidneale2366
@davidneale2366 3 жыл бұрын
Jeven are you still uploading to stock footage sites? Thx
@DangerousDaveKincaid
@DangerousDaveKincaid 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeven, I have the same feeling about ND filters. A lot of the times I am to lazy to put on or change out filters.. Question what are you thoughts about variable ND filters, and then FREEWELL has the variable filters that have mist affect? Thanks Dave...
@mentalistsa
@mentalistsa Жыл бұрын
To me it just looks darker and only one side by side example I liked. My perception of course and I am just learning all this. I plan on getting the Mini Pro 3 for the stealth low noise even if I decide to use it for commercial use. Bright sunny days I can see value but I guess I will have to test. Thanks great info!
@ericschmucker8274
@ericschmucker8274 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch advice. Thank you. I don't take much footage with fast motion in it, but I did notice something the other day. A bird flew across the scene and it looked very jerky. So even if most of the footage doesn't benefit from an ND filter/slower shutter, it might make those unexpected fast movements look better. I don't have ND filters yet, so I'm not sure.
@graemecrumley2534
@graemecrumley2534 16 күн бұрын
Any suggestions when flying over water to view fish
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 16 күн бұрын
Use a polarizer
@graemecrumley2534
@graemecrumley2534 16 күн бұрын
@ any recommendations for certain brand. Thanks
@MihaiStrömpl
@MihaiStrömpl 3 жыл бұрын
It's surprising to see there's no stuttering on the Non-ND filter footage. I have experienced that in the past in some situations. But I think it can be fixed with optical flow in Premiere. Also yes basically the biggest difference is the Non-ND filter footage is too sharp, at all times. For most people I guess that's not a deal-breaker. Thanks for the comparison!
@TheMash84
@TheMash84 Жыл бұрын
Stuttering usually appears when you put clips with different framerate from timeline. These need to be conformed to the project timeline framerate, otherwise you'll get the stutter, which are dropped frames.
@Raxx1111
@Raxx1111 4 ай бұрын
You want to keep the fps at the same level at all times.. definitely use the ND filters. otherwise stuttering/jittering are noticable at some parts of your footage
@stevegphotography9283
@stevegphotography9283 2 жыл бұрын
Jeven - what fps rate were you shooting in your examples? Is it possible that there is more of an effect with 24 fps vs 60 fps? because the slower frame rate captures more time? thanks for your videos.
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 2 жыл бұрын
I shot in 30fps
@MW-fr7bx
@MW-fr7bx 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Mini 2 and wish you posted this last week before I bought the set of filters. Oh well, subscribed
@abdullahalhamed1026
@abdullahalhamed1026 3 жыл бұрын
hi, how to Use zoom camera in mavic 2s? because my mavic 2s we don’t have Zoom!
@woodburymoto5267
@woodburymoto5267 Жыл бұрын
The comparison isn't quite apple to apple, especially comparing summer-like footage with blunt white snowy footage... But, I still learned the ND filter is basically not needed, at all.
@mattmanbrownbro
@mattmanbrownbro 8 ай бұрын
Yea I notice a difference: A complete CHANGE OF FRIGGIN SCENERY AND COLOR PALETTE! If there's one kind of A or B example I hate, it's when the subjects being compared are completely different from each other
@EvanMcLean55
@EvanMcLean55 8 ай бұрын
when doing a comparison. it would help if we had the exact same shot but with the ND on or ND off, but you gave us 2 completely different examples in terms of location. So for me I couldnt make a comparison.
@LeScoile
@LeScoile Жыл бұрын
Difference is maybe most significant in the colorgrading
@peterboi
@peterboi 3 жыл бұрын
what about for highlights?
@alexis.x
@alexis.x Жыл бұрын
What if you put an nd filter and have the drone in manual
@HawaiiAerialProductions
@HawaiiAerialProductions 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that I notice regarding nd filters and motion blur is that if I want to extract a still image from a video that has motion blur, to use as a KZbin thumbnail for example, it makes the picture look pretty fuzzy. The bottom line I think is that if you are making videos to use on social media like Facebook, TikTok, or Instagram for example, I believe that having motion blur in it may actually cause a distraction to people watching your video because the video formats they use create a zooming effect on the videos which make motion blur a lot more noticeable. So my question is, if you are making drone videos for social media (with the exception of sites like Vimeo and KZbin), Is it a good idea to not use ND filters at all? I would love to get an answer to this. Thanks
@Blueskyver
@Blueskyver 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so honest about the utility of the ND filters. Personally, I fly and film quite high from above (30 to 50 m) capturing wider nature views, and ND filtres do not improve the footage.
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent and informative video. What's your thoughts on CPL filter?
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 3 жыл бұрын
Great when used right
@Ulrich.Bierwisch
@Ulrich.Bierwisch 3 жыл бұрын
ND-Filters are important for shots like a face and hands moving (0:22). In some cases it's also better for moving objects, people running and such. But for a lot of action shots, it isn't that bad to get a more hectic appearance into action shots by using a shorter exposure. Actions cams need short exposure for the electronic stabilization anyway. So over all, ND-filters for Action cams and drones are a bit overrated.
@nightdonutstudio
@nightdonutstudio 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I bought whole ND set for my insta360 go 2 without knowing this. And I was like what happen to those weird blur pulsing. Then I realize for the gyro stabilization to work in post you need very fast shutter. So completely a waste of money to buy the ND set for it.
@josemesalles5682
@josemesalles5682 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation but for some reason I like more the shots when they don’t have the DN folders on. Idk If I’m supposed the like more the ND shots
@just1smothie
@just1smothie 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos and I have learned a few things off you, but this one. If you are going to compare footage with or without the ND filter, at least shoot the same scene, not totally different ones. You're comparison is way off and you can't tell if they work or don't. You do a desert shot with it on and then show the comparison of a snow scene with it off. How can you compare the 2?
@gregv2821
@gregv2821 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Examples to back everything up. Love it. You're the man.
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if your comparison shots were the same content.
@markadams6934
@markadams6934 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that concise tutorial on ND filters!
@guilhage6079
@guilhage6079 3 жыл бұрын
IMO i think ND filter is more for a cinematic effect like action shooting while "no-ND" is more like a documentary. In cinema you focus on the subject of action and the story of that subject while in documentaries you show all the details and views and your story is not centered.
@Jonathantuba
@Jonathantuba 3 жыл бұрын
I think ND filters are only useful in very specific situations. I have tried them on my drone and have not felt they enhance my videos. I often film steam trains and want to extract stills from the 4K video. In those situations I never use ND filters. Thank you for your honest analysis!
@ChrisHarden
@ChrisHarden 3 жыл бұрын
There's definitely not much of a difference when trying to create a cinematic motion blur. I typically will only use ND filters on my drone when flying above water. I believe having one makes the water look better in the same way that polarized sunglasses work. Otherwise ND filters for drones are overrated. Not saying that they're never useful, but in most situations I haven't found much use for them. Good vid!
@JevenDovey
@JevenDovey 3 жыл бұрын
ND won’t help with water. It only reduces the amount of light. If you use a polarizer then you can reduce the reflections.
@ChrisHarden
@ChrisHarden 3 жыл бұрын
@@JevenDovey Ah ok. I have a set of ND filters but I don't have a set of polarizers. Me thinking that there was a difference in the way that the water looked must've just been in my head. Thanks for the video. Learned something new.
@csc-photo
@csc-photo 3 жыл бұрын
You just simplified my life a little bit 🙂 thank you!
@dronevlogid
@dronevlogid 2 жыл бұрын
nice cinematic for drone
@AjaySingh-228
@AjaySingh-228 3 жыл бұрын
Good One Bro..well explained
@pulseimages
@pulseimages 3 жыл бұрын
Are ND filters helpful when just taking still photos?
@Raxx1111
@Raxx1111 4 ай бұрын
definitely NO and YES.😆 It depends on the result you want. You want the best looking long exposure effect like the waterfall. and YES. or you want to take photo to be able to see every detail in that photo without blurry effect. then NO
@cedrikwepunkt6250
@cedrikwepunkt6250 2 жыл бұрын
Really good Video, thanks bro
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