Do You Need Primer To Paint Over Dark Walls?

[@aisotton]

Can't believe that you made this as I am about to paint a darker room with lighter paint. This really helps, thank you!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Best wishes on the paint job!

[@weijin1993]

Loved that you tried every option possible

[@mday3821]

Thank you so much for doing this video. I am painting a room where I want a lighter color and have been wondering if I need to prime it first. You just saved me time & money!👍

[@jaystovall37]

My recent experience with painting over a 'dark chocolate brown' room with a 'sunshine yellow' paint, went a little different. I started out with an inexpensive flat white called Quick Cover from Glidden. The next day painting with the new color turned out perfect. So, yep, two coats of paint does the job, this will save you a little money. I agree that primer has its place.

[@mwnemo]

Thanks, I was looking for a video about buying a cheaper paint and go over with a more expensive paint afterwords as the top coat.

[@Ashdad99]

I always find it interesting how much better paint is now compared to when I was in my 20s (im 40 now). Paint has gotten to the point that I rarely use primer on interior jobs

[@macysondheim]

Christ you’re old…. You’re practically a dinosaur, lol 🦖

[@gabbyhinds40]

Im a painter. No you do not have to prime walls that have already been previously painted . However, with the price difference of paint and primer , depending on how much space youre painting it may be cheaper to prime then paint. Primed walls do not require as much paint. Another tip is for youre going real dark you can actually have your primer tinted . No one taght me how to paint. I just gave yall years of experience in trial and error because why wouldn't i. Lol

[@emiliothepoet]

Thank you very much. Really appreciated. 🙏🏽

[@akanksha2008]

Hey I want to paint light pink colour over a really dark green colour so can i use white colour instead of primer

[@lifesaballer9861]

Wow I didnt know Spiderman is also a painter thats pretty cool

[@gabbyhinds40]

@@akanksha2008 yes you can as long as you're not painting over an oil based paint. (Oil based paints have very shiny sheen) In that case you would need an oil based primer then you can go over with latex paints. Otherwise any sheen of white paint could work as A primer. a lot of people just use up extra ceiling paint or flat sheen paints as primer. I tend to suggest an eggshell sheen finish for interior walls as it is easier to touch up and blend later and you are also able to wipe down walls with wet towels to clean.

[@gabbyhinds40]

@@lifesaballer9861 that is my 6 year old son and believe me when I say he webbed the entire small town we live , on Halloween. Even had a few duels with other characters in the streets ( he won LOL) he was so in character he went to run out in front of a truck and we snatched him back and while mid air he webbed the heck out of that truck too.

[@oppama1969]

This is exactly what I was looking for. Well done thank you.

[@alexquintero7540]

Love your videos and content and how genuine you are. So genuine in fact that you didn't cut out the mid section of the video where your fly is clearly down. LOL -- Great stuff though, keep up the good work.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

My eyes are up here! 😂 never noticed that but it’s not surprising at all!

[@TammyCorman]

Great info! Thanks for the info and the Laugh about the "Interesting" adjective!

[@matytj5738]

I should have watched this before I did used primer. I never used primer before and I thought I should try it because I have to paint over a dark purple. I'm paint it a dark-ish green and a light-ish green. Primer seems like I'm just doing extra work for myself. Thank you for the video.

[@indomitableson]

Primer is only necessary for certain situations: * bonding issues - chalky surface, very glossy surfaces, certain substrates that won't accept a latex paint (like old oil-based paint) * stain issues - nicotine, water spots, wood tannins bleeding through (raw wood) * required as a backer for some weaker colors to achieve their final look (SW has a series of gray primers for various colors); red can be quite difficult to get to the right color without help. * a flat high-hiding white latex primer can help you paint a wall white in fewer coats over dark or difficult colors like red and green. The flat will kill the sheen of the old paint preventing it from flashing through. [**EDIT The higher the volume of solids in your paint the better it will cover in fewer coats. You can also ask your paint store to add 2 ounces of white and a drop of black per gallon to increase coverage.**] Best of luck to you all!

[@michaeldiffey3791]

In cases of deep base colors I always use a slightly darker flat version as my base and I can do 2 coats of what ever color I want. The grey primer is not helpful.

[@michaeldiffey3791]

I also so your comment on his caulking video. I tore it apart. There were so many 30 yr + painters on there that said they learned something new that I became skeptical of them.

[@indomitableson]

@@michaeldiffey3791 keep in mind that many 20-30+ year painters learned the trade ages ago and never tried to learn anything new after a while. It's pretty easy to get stuck in your ways.

[@indomitableson]

@@michaeldiffey3791 personally, I've never had a problem with dark/deep base colors covering in 2 without a prime coat. But that's just me. Newer paint formulations are pretty impressive.

[@michaeldiffey3791]

@@indomitableson I agree. I've been painting since 1988 and paint has come a long ways since then.

[@Nessajess7]

1:46 - 1:48 I hollered! 😹😹😹. That pause was hilarious lol like you were trying your best to come up with another word lmao. Ok back to the video lol!

[@michaeldiffey3791]

If you have light walls and want a deep base red or blue get yourself a slightly darker flat paint version and apply that first. Then you should be able to do 2 regular coats of the deep base color.

[@LadyLevity1]

Please do a video of painting a wall beginning to end, your favorite tools, tips, tricks, etc. thank you!!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

That’s a good idea, I will do that in the future

[@shedactivist]

Wow, such a timely video. I am about to paint a dark wall with light paint tomorrow. You just saved me the pain of an unnecessary coat of primer.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Hopefully all goes well!

[@wellsnapyeah]

How did the paint job go?

[@shedactivist]

@@wellsnapyeah It went very well. A light buff colour on a very dark blue wall. Only 2 coats required. I now have a beautiful vintage style home office. Thanks for the tip!

[@lauramccullough9769]

Sweating profusely, talking to no one 🤣. Totally following you 😂

[@claudetteb5019]

Awe-inspiring video. Knowledgeable. I really like the double coat of paint but, can we do the same with a dark charcoal wall?

[@claytonrickoliveros5600]

Is this work to any dark colour? Im planning to paint my dark grey wall to a powder blue colour

[@garybregel1572]

I will be painting over a lite blue with a lite blue paint in a bedroom. The problem is, the walls got soot on them from the old furnace. I am cleaning them, but I'm not getting all the soot off 100%. What would you suggest? Thank you in advance.

[@sociopathmercenary]

I know most people recommend Sherwin-Williams or Benjamin Moore paint, but I've had pretty good luck with Beyr Ultra in the past. Pretty good two coat coverage etc. When I bought my new house last year, every wall was painted light gray so we decided to paint everything. Based on previous experience, I thought Beyr Marquis would be an upgrade. They advertise one coat coverage with some colors so I figured two should do it. My surprise that it required three to four coats with or without a primer to get anything close to even coverage. I contacted Beyr and they refunded half my money. YMMV

[@putisproductions]

I've had good luck with Behr Marquee, but it is rarely one coat as advertised. Normally two gets the job done, but like you said YMMV.

[@indomitableson]

I only use Sherwin Williams and Ben Moore because they are higher quality and they are easier to paint with. I have used Behr because some customers insisted that it was the best.. but it's not. Believe what you want but I have painted hundreds of homes and I've tried many brands. The winners are very clear in my book. One thing, though, it's not every product from these two. Even with these top brands only some of their products are good. For SW I prefer Cashmere, Superpaint, and Emerald in that order. For BM I only use Regal Select. And I use Cashmere medium lustre for trim, not one of the fancy trim paints like Advance or ProClassic. Finally, there is no paint anywhere that covers in one coat. Ignore the advertising. It's all a lie.

[@tongsintoto9498]

Can i paint light blue colour without primer on black colour please help

[@echo021]

Wondering the same

[@RPmusic06]

great video bud!!! painting is not my favorite thing to do, but with these tips ill give it a try 🤣loved it, have a great day bud!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Cheers Rushill🍻enjoy your Sunday!

[@tommyk6349]

Great advice. What about painting over a wall that has a semi gloss?

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I’m not 100% sure on that, but if it were me I’d probably hit it with a pole sander before I painted it.

[@indomitableson]

You can rough it up if you want but it's not really necessary. If it was full gloss/high gloss then I would rough it up or consider using a flat latex bonding primer to prevent the old paint from flashing through and to give your new paint a better surface to stick to. Glossy surfaces are much harder and smoother and in some situations can create a bonding issue.

[@JoshNoss]

I have a tenant that just painted the bathroom in a very dark blue (semi gloss behr marquee) and it's way too dark and just horrible color.. do I have to wait until it full cures to paint over it? Do I need to sand it cause it's semi gloss? I can't hire a pro I'm low low income.. I'm worried if I must sand it that the dust is gonna get everywhere in the finished home.. please any advice is welcomed!

[@MiniPotatoNom]

Thank you for the video. Now I have do doubts whether to use a primer or not :)

[@glavardera]

just saved me a primer coat - thanks brutha!

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Best wishes on the painting project!

[@igorpolovinkin1660]

This is great video. Great idea. Saved lots of hustle, Thank you!

[@bermsledt]

Very interesting video.... Just making fun. Does the same apply to wood I ask myself.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Interesting comment 🍻. If the wood is bare I like to use an alcohol based primer.

[@cherylthompson6786]

You're so freaking funny 🤣🤣 Needed a good laugh today. Did you use Flotrol? What would you recommend I use to paint an exterior metal door (no rust but small area of peeling paint that's been sanded). I'm painting it the same color. Thanks

[@brightnight8831]

Nice. Had been wondering about this recently

[@BirdShutterbug]

Do you use Floetrol in the paint for each of those walls?

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I don’t usually use floetrol for walls.

[@BirdShutterbug]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter ok thanks!

[@TheDOS]

What about cost? If doing many rooms, is it cheaper to use the primer instead of one of the color paint?

[@indomitableson]

No. Because you still have to do two coats of paint over the primer. Primer can't take as much tint as paint can so you can't get it to the same color as the paint. Even if you could.. primer is not paint. You need two coats of paint to achieve a consistent surface, consistent sheen, and the warranty is only valid if you do two.

[@TheDOS]

@@indomitableson thank you. Makes sense. What about when you might need 3-5coats of paint to cover a dark painted wall? Could you then maybe do 1 primer 2 paint instead of 3+ paint? Is it reasonable to assume primer is usually cheaper than good paint?

[@indomitableson]

@@TheDOS there are cheap primers in the $30 range and higher performing products closer to $50 that cover better and are easier to paint with. The issue is that many primers are only for sealing.. meaning they don't have many solids that could be used to hide the dark color. You could use Ben Moores Fresh Coat primer (more expensive) as your first layer to cut down on the total number of coats. But it also depends on what you are painting over it. White over dark is a lot different than another light color because it has little to no tint. Another option is to make your first coat be the same wall color you are going to but instead do it in flat. Flat will prevent the sheen of the old paint from coming through. This would act like a primer and you could do it in a cheaper product. It all depends on what color you are going to. So what are you trying to do? Also, a higher-end product with a higher volume solid count covers better.

[@TheDOS]

@@indomitableson thank you. It’s kind of a hindsight thing. I had a room with rather dark thick latex paint, and it apparently took 5 coats to cover it with light white-yellow semigloss paint iirc (I didn’t actually do it myself that time). So trying to learn what I could do better in the future.

[@indomitableson]

@@TheDOS what product was used?

[@ElaineClappison]

Perfect timing as I'm about to do this 😁

[@timdupree2216]

Do you typically sand between coats?

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I usually do a quick sand just to knock off any bits that might have been in the paint.

[@shawannamcday]

I went through so many videos on KZbin found your on google just to get this answer in 5 mins thank you so much !

[@luctoulouse]

Interesting....ha ha ha Great result. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

Thanks again for the support Luc🍻

[@LuminairPrime]

TLDR: primer is only for when your paint wouldn't work on its own, like if there are weird stains, weird surfaces, a wood knot, or if you want to turn a dark color bright

[@fuelfumes]

Lighting has a lot to do with how paint looks, your lighting changed with each of your reveals, lighting needs to be consistent, many paint manufactures recommend that you paint a sample on the wall and then look at it at different times of the day to see how the color can change with different lighting during the day

[@Daniel_Ho_Status_101]

I despise painting and try not to do it more than once a decade. I don't know what I hate more, the prep work, or 3 coats of painting (primer + 2 paint layers). I used to use single-coat paints, but I find they're not as durable as traditional 2 coat paints.

[@indomitableson]

98% of the time all you need is two coats of a quality paint.

[@te1ephraq]

You did not take those clips off the wall, right? Why not?

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

There are for wire shelving and don’t really come off the wall nicely.

[@indomitableson]

You risk damaging the wall taking them out.

[@crystalhopereed4954]

Finally an answer

[@SG-Cichlids]

Unless it's something you can't get a 4 inch nap/roller into. Never use a paint brush to cut anything in. Also if your painting anything a flat sheen. Just buy primer and hand it tinted the color you want. It's a lot cheaper than buying flat paint and you get the same results.

[@indomitableson]

This is bad advice. It's unavoidable to use a brush to cut in the edges of anything. And primer will never work as a top-coat for anything. Primers are not designed for that. They are designed to resolve specific issues: bonding and sealing. You have to put paint over that.

[@SG-Cichlids]

@FireFlyEx my brother and son and I paint houses for a living. You only use a brush to cut in edges if it's absolutely necessary. Like you can't fit a cutter in the space. Obviously you have to tape and taping is the only way to get perfect paint lines 100% of the time. Tinted primer gives you the exact same finish as a flat paint. Literally no difference. I know this because I've seen if on tens of thousands of square feet of ceilings. Can you use a brush to cut in edges? Yes you can but it's not a 100% and if you're painting for a living it's economical. You can mask and cut in a room in a fourth of the time you could cut it in with a brush.

[@indomitableson]

@SG-Cichlids I paint for a living too and I only use tape in rare situations where the brush would hit something I don't want paint on... and even then I will use an artist brush first if I have to. Cutting a line by hand takes practice for sure but I have never had tape leave a perfect line. That's the beauty of painting, though, everyone has their own techniques. But I still strongly disagree with using primer as a top-coat.

[@irafair3015]

@indomitableson I am not a painter, just a DIYer. I agree with you about not using primer as a top-coat. I have never seen that turn out well.

[@SG-Cichlids]

@irafair3015 obviously if you just go by some primer and use it as a regular paint is going to look terrible. Primer doesn't have any pigment in it, but if you tell the paint store to tint it to a specific color like you would with regular paint. The finish is exactly like any flat paint. Plus much cheaper. A lot cheaper.

[@wave2k868]

I tried to paint my bathroom from blue to white and it was a nightmare. Took 5 coats to make it look good .

[@DreamWevr]

I’m painting over off white with another off white can just paint over it with new paint it’s exterior wood siding

[@yT579]

That's a light color paint?

[@ricnyc2759]

Avoid Chantilly Lace. I had to put 4 coats in a job last a few years ago.

[@salb222]

Great vid, as always, but, ummm... somebody forgot to zip up after his bathroom break. ;o)

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

😂🥸whoops

[@salb222]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter Yeah, I was like why does he have the mic all the way down there? Ha ha ha... Your advice on everything finishing work (which I hate doing with a passion) always inspires me. Thanks for making it easier (and funnier) to deal with. Great stuff!!

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

Try painting over with a new Pastel color. Learned my lesson the hard way with this one. Lol Customer picked out this light pastelly-yellow color. Walls were previously light blue and dark purple. So I did a coat of standard sherwin pva primer like I always use. Boy was it a mistake to not tint the primer lol. It basically went back and forth between seeing the cut lines or the rolled area...after 6 coats it finally covered completely.

[@indomitableson]

Hey friend... uh.. PVA is only useful for brand new drywall and drywall mud. All it does is seal and fill pores in the substrate so that the paint will look even. Also, if it takes six coats of paint you are using a terrible product that barely has any solids in it. The real problem colors to cover with white are red and green. You should consider using a first coat of a super flat white as a prime coat. There's no real advantage to using an actual primer. The bleed-through happens because of how shiny the old paint is and using a flat will kill that. And switch up which product you are using for wall paint. The more solids by volume in the paint means it will cover better in fewer coats. And keep in mind you can also ask the paint store to add 2 ounces of white and a drop of black to increase coverage even more. Best of luck!

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@indomitableson You read what I was doing completely wrong. But thanks for the useless novel lol

[@indomitableson]

@@evictioncarpentry2628 what did I read wrong? You primed with PVA and then put six coats of cheap paint on it?

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@indomitableson Primer is Flat white. No different then a flat white paint. It is meant to lighten the dark color in this case. Not seal it. Standard procedure. 2. All paints were sherwinn Williams products. Are you saying their paint is no good? I know you're trying to look or sound smart but unless you were there, you have no clue. There was no sheen to the wall previously. It's the pastel color that is the issue and the base white coat used needed to be tinted before applying it.

[@indomitableson]

@Eviction Carpentry I use Sherwin Williams paint every day. It depends on which ones you are using. There is a big difference between Super Paint with a volume solid count of 38 vs Promar 400 at 29... which is the same amount as found in the PVA they sell. Cashmere and Duration are at 40. Emerald is at 41. The higher the amount of solids the better it covers. The only times I have had to put more than 3 coats of paint on something was going pale yellow over red and going red over white. That said.. SW changed their color system years ago and ever since then their whites haven't covered as well. The ceiling paint sucks and the alkyd trim paint doesn't cover very well. We're now using Ben Super Hide Zero for ceilings and it works amazingly well.

[@hombreastuto6052]

The most interested man in the world. 😂😂

[@l_7376]

I was waiting to see a black wall lol

[@balma6375]

Thanks. Perfect timing

[@Kashfrmdaway]

That’s Crazy My Wall Is That Same Color 🤣

[@dylanburge3516]

Interesting video

[@missmelis7260]

Can I double like?! Lolol thanks for the outtakes!🤘🏼🫶🏼🙌🏼

[@jrazzarelli]

Skip the primer. Got it. 👍

[@John-xq4xb]

Seriously dude you know what you need to give it up I mean it’s not a complex seriously question it’s either yes or no you don’t need a six hour dissertation on why

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

It’s a 6 minute video. Thanks for watching 🍻

[@a2bendit]

So primer is a waste of time?! That's what I gathered and have always thought.

[@lf9341]

You saved me.

[@buttholasaurus99]

I HATE painting..... more than a splinter under the fingernail 👍🏼👊🏼🦖🍺 good test

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

I like it in moderation

[@buttholasaurus99]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter TBH, I love under the nail splinters.....why? Cuz the relief when you get it out is almost orgasmic...sorry if that’s over the top, but I’m serious🤣🤣👍🏼👊🏼🦖🍺

[@Birdclowncreations]

Thank you!!!!

[@thomasflynn8712]

Ur funny bro good vid

[@wildeman32]

That’s interesting 😂

[@perniciouspete4986]

Uh . . . interesting.

[@TheFunnyCarpenter]

😂you know it’s bad when you start hating yourself mid-sentence🍻

[@perniciouspete4986]

@@TheFunnyCarpenter Truthfully, I hadn't noticed you using the word often. You're your own worst critic, as we all should be.

[@michaeldiffey3791]

Use a primer paint for the color he is trying to cover over. It should go in two coats. The cheaper the paint the worse it will be. You get what you pay for in paint.

[@indomitableson]

To be a little more specific.. one of the reasons why cheap paint doesn't cover is because they have a lower volume of solids. When the paint dries and all the liquid has disappeared the only thing left are the solids.

[@Jcewazhere]

Interesting. :D

[@gomezboyz5107]

Seth Rogen voice

[@John-xq4xb]

I’d be really easy yes or no!!

[@Bundy_Bulls]

You wasted 5:58 of my time. So I unsubscribed you!

[@specialcookday]

🥫 U just use white primer spray just to cover the scrach place of white paint side. Without repaint white color. And will Jeff Bezo go start making AMNZ prime paint in the future ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AnLe-oy1pq]

Why do you talk so much?

[@marcjolin8335]

It's obvious your promoting the paint company. Not a crime to prime bud.