Do you really want a knife with a drop-shut action?

[@alisuperhornet]

I only like "drop-shut" action for knives with locks that allow the fingers to be completely out of the way during the whole unlocking process...compression lock, axis lock, etc.

[@thepracticalblade9013]

I generally have the same opinion, but I'm also okay with flippers with a big enough tab being able to stop on your thumb. But yeah, something like a thumbstud having a drop shut action scares me.

[@DaibheadSeamas]

I agree. I love the way my Benchmade drops shut, but I also love that my fingers are out of the way. Same with my Milwaukee Fastback utility knife. Great for really quick one-handed operation. With liner lock and frame lock knives, I steer clear of blades that fall shut. I’m too clumsy for that kind of risk!

[@flinchfu]

Yeah, I just fling axis locks shut... but frame or liner locks I prefer them to be tight enough to be pushed closed with my index as I pull my thumb off the lock..

[@bradyblackburn7877]

Same.

[@faethe000]

Same, and because I only like drop-shut knives, I pretty much stick to axis and compression locks.

[@chefboiarby304]

I love drop shutty knives as long as their is a choil or flipper tab to spare my fingers.

[@Sceptnado]

There.

[@Mridgwell]

Incredible name sir

[@chefboiarby304]

@@Mridgwell I combined Chef Boyardee and Arby's to create this monstrosity of a username.

[@CloudyShinobi]

Bingo

[@Mridgwell]

@@chefboiarby304 now I get it thanks.

[@londiniumarmoury7037]

Knife specs of 2021 on websites: 3 inch blade length weight 3 OZ 2.5 Wiggles to close blade

[@NathanKrick]

2.5 of the old Wiggles, or the new (post 2013) Wiggles? Also, I'd rather shut my knife without any help from the Wiggles.

[@JustKnifeThings]

Dropshutty is one of those things that, as I got into the knife world, I absorbed from the crowd as a desirable thing, but that I gradually unlearned as I tried knives with different action. I think the thing that's satisfying about it is that a lack of friction when fully tightened suggests good engineering. But what I learned that I don't like is that it removes an element of control in my handling of it as a tool. A little friction or hydraulic resistance helps me close it at the rate I want, which is itself satisfying, and also helps in frame/liner lock situations where I need to move my thumb out of there. I'm OK either way but I no longer see it as particularly desirable.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

I agree and have set all my folders up to not drop shut for years. I definitely prefer that my tools are not intentionally dangerous👍🏻

[@ribstein7714]

I love the way a manix 2 drops shut when and only when one has the lock disengaged

[@RenaissanceManEducation]

I'm most concerned with speed and reliability of deployment, a surface that provides a positive grip, as much blade length as possible, and a reliabile locking mechanism.

[@Sicarius888]

In a flipper, yes I really want it because to me it means good quality. And I think people should stop complaining about things they said for years they want. Since I remember many reviews and comments were about how smooth and drop shut the action is. Now that it is easier to find in less expesive knives people said they don't want it. The same with steel. People complain that 8cr is garbage and they want better. When they got better they complain they are bored with D2, heard someone said it rusts and is hard to sharpen and don't want it anymore. I bet if OTFs would become legal and cheap people would complain about them too. Must be the work of these annoying social media elitists. If an average guy can get something good for a fair price that they earlier spent a fortune on, they will say it is not cool anymore.

[@jameswilson8907]

People will always complain when something isn't the hot new thing or becomes cheaper over time. Like how you see reviewers scoffing when something comes with s35vn just because it isn't m390 which is artificially perceived as the best. I've even noticed a decent change in attitude towards Benchmade since the axis lock lost it's patent. People acted like they were the shit just a couple years ago and now they just complain about the price.

[@Freakmaster480]

I think part of it is having time to use and absorb the feature itself and leave the honeymoon phase. When anything is new it's an entirely novel and interesting experience it's interesting and people haven't had enough time to really absorb the potential issues. When it comes to steel that's mostly idiots just blindly repeating whatever they've heard or people at the higher end who have lost perspective.

[@pmq6645]

The other day I went to a store to handle some ZT knives, to get a feeling of which model is more drop-shutty. Then I realized something really interesting, the noise, the "ting", when the knife closes is different on full ti ones and cf ones. And I realised, personally, that sound is as important as the smoothness, the 0452, 0393 and the 0562CF is smooth, but the closing sound in kinda 'mushy'.

[@jessemijnders]

You should hear a titanium framelock with external stop pins such as the Reate New Torrent, they sound amazing

[@pmq6645]

@@jessemijnders the most amazing titanium framelock I have ever heard, not personally, but on the web, is the J Cape V3. Have a look at Best Damn EDC's and J Cape's Instagram videos, it rings like a dinner bell.

[@thepracticalblade9013]

@@jessemijnders yeah, the "tink" of a TI framelock is something indescribable.

[@thomasmaloney843]

Solution looking to create a problem.

[@damascusthefox]

I like all tips, but my most favorite is drop-shut action.

[@thepracticalblade9013]

My dad was the first person to make me realize that this was even a question when I began collecting knives about a year ago. I got into the hobby and heard so many people talking about drop-shut actions that I just assumed it was an inherently good quality. Then, one day, my dad said something along the lines of "Looks like a trip to the emergency room waiting to happen." - and after thinking about it, I couldn't argue with him. Outside of personal taste, or MAYBE "functionality" if you're using your knife as a fidget toy, there's really nothing inherently good or bad about the close-portion of the action. Maybe the open is objective, but the close is basically entirely subjective. I just came across this with my new Civivi Dogma in brass. The action is as you described as one of your knives in this video - "glassy". Smoothest action of all of my knives thus far, amazingly (at almost a third of the price as some of the others!). But due to lockbar tension, absolutely does not come close to dropping shut. Good video. Good discussion.

[@edyvanea]

That button lock flipper smoothness made me smile when I saw it in action :)

[@bert2530]

Well, all my axis-lock like knifes drop shut, even Ganzo’s. Just ordered a buttonlock knife, Real Steel Griffin, that wil drop shut also. But in these cases my fingers are out of the way from the blade. Also the reason i dont buy any framelocks anymore. More safe fidget fun!

[@AndyMcGehee]

I was a bit surprised, in the unpleasant, now-I’m-bleeding kind of way, by how drop-shutty the Spyderco Siren is. As compared to (for example) another back-lock knife, the Native Chief.

[@HollywoodTacticool]

drop shutty + muscle memory = best one handed convenience and efficiency, because a lot of time my other hand is holding something I can't let go of. so it's not only an aesthetic choice it's one of convenience, efficacy, and even safety.

[@lobotomite9767]

I like drop shut actions but I will always prefer the rocket-propelled, slam home actions of OTFs

[@granthaller9544]

AND they are very safe.

[@lobotomite9767]

@@granthaller9544 not if you have absolutely no knowledge about them. Every time I use mine I get scared looks

[@granthaller9544]

Kire EDC "murdery” as Nick would say. It is good to have a SAK to pull out in mixed company.

[@butre.]

I generally prefer the sebenza approach for frame locks or liner locks, but I deeply appreciate that no resistance action for button locks and whatnot. it's not a safety thing for me though, just that when I see a frame lock I expect tension on the blade just by nature of how a frame lock works.

[@DrGIzmoBRad]

My two Ti frame locks (Spyderco Leafstorm & Bradley Alias ii) only drop shut when the lock bar is fully disengaged, just like you explained in this video. Keep 'em coming :)

[@gpearce11]

I agree with many of the commentors here. I like on a drop shut action on a knife like an AXIS/Compression/button/etc lock (where my fingers are away from the blade), but I don't like it on a frame/liner lock (unless it has a very large flipper tab). This is especially true for me as I'm left handed, so there is much more finger in the way when I disengage the lock. If the blade doesn't have a flipper tab to stop on my thumbnail, there's a decent chance a drop-shut blade will stop on my knuckle.

[@alpine1600s]

It's a preference. It doesn't mean a knife is better than any other knife.

[@NickShabazz]

Yes, that's a summary of the video.

[@elevationmoto6208]

I like the action of my Spyderco Stretch 2. It is a backlock which opens with a smooth consistent roll out; I can flick it out as well, but rarely do. To close it, I just moved my thumb back and press, then give the knife a gentle flick which puts the unsharpened heel of the blade against my index finger. I always know where the blade is, I don't have to even see it, yet the blade moves very easily and smoothly. I especially like the satisfying click that I can see and feel when the blade locks in place, and when it closes.

[@tallica4life81]

I love my hinderer and zt action where it’s drop shuts without it being a guillotine. I want it to need a little one shake to start the fall and completely fall with the one shake. I don’t want it to shut automatically once past detent ball.

[@dkompolt1234]

Nice video Nick. I think this is a good opportunity to talk about the different kinds of smoothness we might desire in a folding knife. Quality of smoothness and level of friction are too different things. CRK knives have that classic glassy "hydraulic" smoothness but there is still a good amount of friction. Cheaper knives on bearings might have very little friction, but the quality of that smoothness might not be very good because of lesser tolerances. Grimsmo's bearing actions would be an example of very high smoothness and very low friction. Personally I want a knife to be as smooth as possible while still maintaining a bit of friction, for the reasons you describe here. I don't want a knife closing itself (depending on the locking mechanism of course), I prefer to control the blade through its entire range of motion.

[@Cadwallader38]

The door to my room is unable to be half open, it pisses me off it is always either completely open or fully closed.

[@censusgary]

You might want to see someone about your OCD.

[@DaibheadSeamas]

A flawed analogy, but a humorous one.

[@kevola5739]

I prefer a small fixed blade cuz it does not shut at all, and it does this so smoothly you cannot even tell it’s not closing. Plus the fact that I do not want drop shuttiness in my everyday vocabulary.

[@SaintDuck]

What I really wanted was a new clip for my Cryo. Turns out that would cost $30 to put on a $32 knife. So I started looking and you all sucked me right in to your knife world. But I do have a blue Malibu that does fall shut so I guess I can't complain too much.

[@tristanmurphy4731]

I think you have raised this discussion in a delightful manner. Not quite sure why you were anxious about releasing this video. Personally I do enjoy dropshuttiness, but I dont like full on guillotines. Best way for me to describe it would probably be to say "glide-shut", just like Metal Complex showed with my QSP Penguin or his comparison to one of the Shiro's on pb washers

[@JesseAdams]

The only thing I want dropping shut is my 940-1 or PM2, otherwise I prefer my Sebenza.

[@JamesGerzon]

Respect your Knives!!! - I have a ZT0350TS spring assist that while good for opening that resistance helped control the closing movement (very controlled). However, when I purchased the ZT0308 the big blade combined with the no resistance when closing CUT my finger because I treated it at first like my 0350 but that obviously changed when taking the time to learn the feeling of the knife. So whatever style you like, when receiving a NEW knife alway always take a moment to carefully get use to its own characteristics and enjoy (safely).

[@jamesgentry6864]

I use my knives for many purposes. (Or at least that's what I tell myself) 🤣 but one of those purposes is a fidget tool. I bet I open and close my knives a thousand times a day. It's a curse really. My pivots loosen up, I get slight blade play, but I absolutely love a guillotine action. But that's my preference. I have knives that do everything but my go to's are drop shutty. Like the skaha2 or the chaves 229. I'm carrying an olamic swish at the moment and it's super smooth, but not drop shut.

[@ReclusiveMountainMan]

AKA Guillotine Action. The guillotine action works both ways. Had a Norseman and also A Gen 6 Hinderer (both with fall shut actions) overcome the detent and fully open in my pocket. Question then becomes do you want to play with and fondle your knife or use it as a tool. If you use the knife and carry it, then you probably don't want a guillotine action. Drop shut actions are not safe, especially on a flipper with tip-up configuration. Drop shut is fine for a toy. It's dangerous is you use your knife as a tool.

[@ensampojken]

You could perfectly sum this video up with the Top Gear "This Is Brilliant. (Smooth but not drop-shutty) But I Like This (drop-shutty)"-meme.

[@Bucketlessheadroc]

Love your videos buddy. Bought a Spyderco PM 3 light weight partially because of your review and I’m very happy with it.

[@HappyWifeHappyKnife]

i always chuckle when someone shows off how drop shut their axis and compression locks are

[@TECHFIGHTER]

@Tom Smith agree with you. Don't see why it would be chuckle worthy lol. It's neat to see the smooth action on any knife imo.

[@tinman3381]

@Tom Smith crapping is a thing my cats do. Should I therefore show that off ??

[@TECHFIGHTER]

@@tinman3381 If your cat knows how to take a crap in the toilet then yes.

[@thepracticalblade9013]

"There's no friction!!!" No shit. Nothing is touching it. It was literally built that way. Lol

[@thepracticalblade9013]

@Tom Smith he is making a point that when it comes to compression/ axis locks, the mechanical "feat" is not impressive, because those locking mechanisms by design simply do not come in contact with the blade when unlocked. There is nothing impressive about a drop shut knife when there's no friction... it's no more impressive than holding a knife in the air and letting it fall to the ground due to gravity. It's much harder to create a drop shut action on a knife where parts actually make contact with the tang of the blade while it closes.

[@SpydieFan]

I have a Rockstead Shun, the blade is super heavy and it’s very smooth, so it’s basically drops shut, I find that I get nervous while closing it, it’s so sharp that I think it will close on my fingers and cause the need for a few stitches. It’s become a safe queen, but I’m happy to own it.

[@texansshoot8703]

I have a Spyderco Endura 3 that’s so worn in as soon as I push the back lock it falls right on my finger. I like it because the one hand close it’s easier but I have nicked myself a few times. Always be careful!

[@handcoding]

8:51 - Can anyone help id this button-lock knife? That knife looks dope as hell, but I don’t recall Nick mentioning which brand and model that was? (Edit: Is that maybe a ProTech Malibu?)

[@denversnider1587]

Yes, that is the ProTech Malibu. It is a super sick knife.

[@handcoding]

Denver Snider Ah, right on-I gotta get me one of those!

[@toreycasey1214]

Nick always like your videos and this is no exception! And thank you for videos that show me how to take all my knives apart

[@whiskyguzzler982]

Spyderco Compression Lock with drop shut action is perfection. Open when cutting, then closed. One handed operation and fingers never in the blade path make me wonder why anyone buys anything else. The Benchmade Axis is a distant 2nd, and I have “fun” knives, but Compression Lock is why any EDC is Spyderco.

[@Jayhgee57]

When I open a knife, I use it, then I clean and dry it. Falling closed is not a desirable trait in my opinion.

[@Sceptnado]

Well put

[@joet.plumber3771]

At 6:12. You cracked me up! Great Horror Movie Screechy Door Impersonation Nick. Thanks. It’s National Knife Day and I won’t sleep well tonight with that image in my frickin head.

[@reasonablenamehere]

I work in a very dusty environment. Unfortunately "drop shut" is a trait I only get to experience with a knife that never leaves the house. I wish we could see the MUDD design in more than just one obscure ZT from years ago.

[@jdisdetermined]

MUDD? Never heard of it. What’s the ZT model that has it?

[@rlanger3108]

I think that smoothness is more important than simply being drop shutty. My SpydieChef and my 0562cf are both very smooth, but one drops shut and the other doesn't. Does that matter? No. They both give a sense of high quality.

[@innocentoctave]

Drop-shut blades are fine so long as you can guarantee to always keep your fingers out of the blade path when closing the knife, and never accidentally disengage the lock. Being as fallible and absent-minded as the next man, I don't see it as a desirable feature.

[@granthaller9544]

It sounds like you are “not a brilliant man” LOL

[@Bluith]

Just got that exact Deka and it's a joy to flip. My first not cheap POS knife and I don't think I can go back now.

[@YanDoroshenko]

I land somewhere in the middle. I like to have an option to close a knife just by disengaging the lock and shaking it but hate when the blade goes flying through the air and my fingers.

[@csquared4538]

I think the appeal of drop-shut was in the race to the bottom of smooth closing. So when grimsmo or brown came along and made something truly drop-shut, it was appealing to the people along for that ride. I think if more knives at lower costs were able to achieve this it would lose what makes it interesting.

[@jdisdetermined]

I have a $28 Ganzo that has Grimso style slam shut action. But I don’t find those knives overly impressive, especially the Grimso given the price. It feels sloppy and less precise bouncing off the stops. Shiro action is what impresses me. Totally fall shut, but in a way that is slow, controlled and hydraulically smooth.

[@crushed2death]

I kinda consider the AD10 drop shut. Though i have to have my index finger in the way while i press the lock, it swings shut so easily until the choil hits my (very carefully positioned) fingernail. Even under lock tension, it swings under the huge weight of the blade until the lock bar slams it shut. It did bite me pretty good when I got it, lol, but it is surprisingly fun to open and close. My manual Gerber 06 is SUPER stiff to open and close. I thought the button lock would let it swing free, but not at all. I assume the auto has just an insanely strong spring.

[@Yelechkin]

I've made my ZT 0470 drop shut this way cause from factory it came really stiff: just disassembled the knife and slightly bent the frame lock outwards by hand. Now it's just butter smooth.

[@jacknemo8021]

Not a finger guillotine fan.

[@slick_slicers]

Mostly, here in the Uk, our decisions are made for us by some “jackass”, but not off KZbin!

[@rlanger3108]

Indeed. Jackasses in Parliament have no idea what they are doing when it comes to knives.

[@Ohne_Silikone]

And you can’t blame this one on the EU.

[@slick_slicers]

Miss Informed no the EU has a plethora of draconian nonsense, much even worse than the Uk!

[@StewartLucrative]

I had never heard the word problematize before. That's a great word, I will have to remember it.

[@Killlerbee]

Thanks for the fun Nick. I have a few budget TwoSuns that have a very nice Drop-shut action. And yes the non-flipper tab ones can be "dangerous" LOL!

[@andrewfournier8817]

I modded a ganzo framelock to drop shut, but have no bladeplay when locked open. It's nice. And ofc something budget makes for a good experimental platform to see if this is, actually, a good idea. The drop shuttiness made the knife significantly more appealing for day to day carry, though obviously it is a really basic tool. I assume other budget brands are also amenable to this sort of experiment, given the unpopularity of Ganzo.

[@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden]

I have to agree. After buying the whippersnapper new and then the crk sebenza 21 NIB, and comparing the two side by side, the grassiness Of the olamic is absolutely company specific. It’s glassy, and controllable, with the elements of a drop shit action, where it’s very easy to manipulate in hand, and it’s An absolutely joy to handle. And I’m glad you clarified that the Malibu isn’t an auto ... i was going to call the feds because Cali folks, can’t carry those ... on a serious note, is it weird that 3 videos about the Malibu came out yesterday, and they were all on the apex pass around groups videos, but all different blades and finishes. And very nice and diverse opinions too. We rely on each for the straight scoop here and I appreciate if always.

[@joedidit9630]

I released the triad lock on my 4 max scout out of the box and the blade drop shut on the back of my finger. It was my first experience with the triad lock and true drop shuttiness. I think I like the less guillotine like shuts.

[@cloudcleaver23]

Smooth is not necessarily frictionless. Sebenzas are smooth, but they require constant force over the entire range of motion to actuate.

[@kymcopyriot9776]

Thanks Nick! Late to the party with my comment but anyhow...great video. Just getting into this knife shenanigans so to take a look at drop shuts I picked up a cheap M-Tech button lock MT1109. In most ways it’s a very ordinary knife but boy, do I love the button lock and totally ‘swingy’ drop action. I’m now on the hunt for an actual quality knife in button lock with a bearing pivot. So smooth!

[@bryantirwin6271]

what is the blue button lock in the middle at the bottom, holy sh!t i want one

[@Cheeseburger_679]

What knife is the blue push button knife in the bottom middle? I think it had a damascus blade

[@beeochg4]

I have a question and would like any advice if possible. I live in CA and here we have life laws and restrictions regarding certain knives especially autos. I currently am trying to get the Kershaw launch 11, but it’s an auto so online sites wont ship it to me. Are there any ways around this or places I can get one at. I’m not even trying to take this knife out of my house just add it to my collection.

[@Madman6505]

I picked up a Titanium Kizer Begleiter and a WE Kinves Kitefin. The Kitefin is better for edc but I like the Begleiter because of the drop-shuttitude action. It gives it a premium, high-quality feel.

[@johnd48]

Drop shut is nice. But it's smooth and consistent movement that I ultimately like. The "gritty" or inconsistent movement is what will get a knife out of my collection fast.

[@thepracticalblade9013]

My knives don't have to drop shut... but they do need to be smooth. I always frown and die a little inside when I flip / close a knife for the first time and it feels like the pivot is filled with sand. At that point, I just keep flipping it repeatedly praying that it will "break in".

[@J85909266]

I really liked this. I agree with pretty much everything you said. I don't have an Olamic, but I do have an Atom. That's about where my action sweetspot is for liner and framelocks.

[@breadloaf4619]

I ordered a Pm2 a while ago for my birthday they ordered titanium liner and ever since it had problems. I had to choose between no blade play or fall shut. Had to choose no blade play and im content with my choice.

[@alexeski4109]

My pm 2 is like a guillotine, and it bounces back open often when closing it. The para 3 however, just a little flick and it settles in the lock position almost every time. I prefer the knife to lock up in the closed position cleanly. The Protech Malibu is a literal guillotine, it just flies around in the pivot, but it locks closed securely when flicking it closed. That’s the important part, to me at least.

[@914Rocky]

I’ve actually cut my pinkie on a griptillian when my pinkie was in the blade path a bit when it dropped shut.

[@daddygc5814]

My benchmade 940 ,drops like that malibu,its the best drop shut knife i have

[@usergonemad]

I'm not a big fan of drop-shut on most knives. While it's fun to take an Axis Lock and wing it open and shut without touching the blade, it's no faster for me to use that way. I prefer a touch of deliberation on a manual folder, both opening and closing. Perhaps that's because I live in a switchblade-friendly state and have double-action OTFs that open and close faster than the eye can track.

[@danieljames4444]

Serious question: I understand the desire to have a knife that quickly deploys, but (other than fidget factor) is there inherently any functional value in a knife blade being quickly closed? I understand the value of one-hand closing, but I'm thinking more of the speed of the closing.

[@esoteric5277]

The functional quality of drop-shut action is to punish careless idiots👺

[@granthaller9544]

I find that if my knife does not close quickly I might set it down and either lose it or cut myself.

[@thecarnut9899]

I like drop shut knifes as long as there is a flipper tab or finger choil, or if it has a compression lock, cage lock, or axis lock

[@THeBoZZHoGG]

Drop shut as long as your finger is not in the closing path, so compression lock like Pm2, or ball lock like manix 2, or Benchmade axis lock as examples

[@Astronaut_FX]

There's nothing wrong with having personal preferences regarding a knife's characteristics. That being said, the characteristic as to whether or not a knife "drops shut" is really not a characteristic that is a critical one with respect to a knife's true purpose and function. Liking and preferring knives that have this particular characteristic, again is completely fine. I won't say anyone is wrong for having this preference. But the problem that arises, is that the more it is discussed as a characteristic, especially in reviews, the more it starts to (mis)lead people, especially perhaps those new to the hobby, into erroneously believing that it is a more critical characteristic than it really is. If a person is buying, collecting, and carrying knives more as fidget devices, then perhaps this is important to that person. But if a person is buying, collecting, and carrying knives as cutting, slicing, and carving tools, then let's be completely honest, this is not a characteristic that is critical with respect to cutting, slicing, and carving. I feel like Nick is and has always been very clear on this point, but across the hobby as a whole, that's not necessarily the case.

[@mikem4259]

Personally, all I care about is how it comes out. Ferrum forge uses the hobak rolling detent. People complain it doesn’t “drop shut”, unless you decrease the detent strength. I don’t know why that’s important, since it flies out perfectly. I supposed a smooth drop is indicative of good fit and finish, but it doesn’t serve any real useful purpose. As long as it deploys quick, and snappy, and I can close it with one hand, I’m happy.

[@NickShabazz]

For what it's worth, Ferrum Forge's most recent pieces no longer use the HRD. But your point is fair.

[@wessonliam7423]

I don't mind them I do mind what causes drop shutty actions, ball bearings and narrow washers. these things make a knife more prone to damage from sideways torque and shit gets in the action. I like the sebenza's UFO sized washers.

[@tetsubo57]

Nope, not my thing. I prefer linear and frame locks. I want the blade closing at my discretion.

[@safromnc8616]

I want to 'make' the knife drop shut...I don't want it to just easily drop shut on my fingers as noted by others. Liner locks...um no.

[@Fablades]

My favorite closing action is the Shiro MRBS glide shut

[@bryanstone654]

I don't have anything that is truly "drop shut" and unless it was like a Grimsmo or a Shirogorov, I don't think I'd want one. My two knives with the action I like the best right now are my ZT0450 and my Ontario Rat 1. I like that they are not truly drop shut but close to it.

[@gunmadonna]

i love drop shut, but this is actually the reason i will only buy a frame or liner lock - drop shut or no - that has a significantly protruding flipper tab to prevent it from ever closing on my fingers. in general i wish we would move on from the standard of having to put your fingers in the path of the blade to close the knife

[@granthaller9544]

I agee that the frame lock adds inherent danger, but also adds simplicity and reduces fragile parts. That is why the Sebenza is such an icon: easy to disassemble and clean, smooth but not drop shut, durable.

[@ecz4001]

Looks cool but at the end of the day makes no sense to me. Only because I’m old school trained on knife safety.

[@dm3639]

Unfortunately in the quest for "drop shuttiness" most makers cheat with thick blade stock. Keep your drop shutty prybars, I'll take a knife that cuts well.

[@qazwsxjoe]

I love that the bugout is one of the more affordable drop-shutty knives while maintaining quite a thin blade.

[@jamieluvsknives3912]

I learned about drop shut action from watching your channel like the Graham razel and grimsmo norsman videos so i got a norsman and loved the action but it might just be to drop shut a few months ago i got a shirogorov 95t and that has a drop shut action but its a more controlled drop shut which i enjoy a little more and haven't cut my finger like i have on the norsman great video i watched it twice lol

[@thepracticalblade9013]

The grimsmo can be "a bit much" because not only is it drop-shut, but it's hot a FAT hunk of blade helping to shut the knife even more.

[@davidaxman]

I think we talk way to little about the tactile joy of knives whether it's on the Sebenza end of the scale or on the Grimsmo end. We talk about fall-shuttitude or walk-and-talk but we don't call it what it is: tactile joy.

[@FidelCashflow_YT]

My knife (aluminum version Iona) doesn't drop shut, but it will close up if you just shake it lightly. Almost like a mechanical feel when it closes normally. Smooth but not butter... I actually kinda prefer that.

[@jkulysses]

At 2:00 the 3rd knife in from the top right I can't for the life of me understand what brand and model you said. North Ops Ahhaa?

[@u1y2q3w4]

I love a strong detent so the only one option i have its the lock back.

[@BluePachyderm105]

I have a sprint run PM2 that is the very definition of a finger guillotine. Falls shut quite well. I'm just extra careful with it, is all.

[@Hollowpoint762]

I could go either way honestly although I appreciate drop shutting for my work knives where I'm often cutting at strange angles or I have to be quick while I'm working

[@racerx2095]

I do not care if my knife drops shut lol 😂

[@ekekiel0898]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention any detent locks for the dropshut slipjoints

[@NickShabazz]

Ah, true. They're just not quite the same as 'slipjoint'. But the EWC is a nice example.

[@censusgary]

For my purposes, as long as a knife can be closed with one hand, it doesn’t need to drop shut. Of course, as Nick says, it’s more of an aesthetic question than a functional one.

[@bogdan.a2992]

Well , after all , drop shutting is a production bug or not ?

[@Sheepleton]

I like a little shake to close, that way I'm kinda in control.

[@NRiggiKnives]

Yes, smooth and fall ( vs drop shut) shut is a must.

[@333chrispena]

Unless it's a type of axis or button lock its not really a big deal for me.

[@ting280]

I just got my Spyderco Ikuchi and I've been playing with the drop shutty for like 3 days straight

[@Eternalgameplayer]

You're just taunting all of us with that Protech Malibu.

[@derekchristensen1187]

That's the light blue one, right! I WANT!

[@mickkeim4142]

Yep, I like the drop shutty action too. Unfortunately not that many have a truly drop shut ability.

[@ryejack]

I imagine this video will help clear up some misconceptions so that it's hopefully an open and drop-shut case. Eh? Eh? hehe