He would only know this if he watched your video, Harley salesman doesn’t tell the buyers this, I don’t know if there ashamed of this or they just don’t know, thanks goodness for your videos
@andreronda67003 жыл бұрын
Finally someone explaines clearly how EITMS works. EITMS for Dummy's so to speak. Thank you Doc Harley.
@jaypino26423 жыл бұрын
I was told that this has a negative on the stator
@spanky13465 жыл бұрын
I own a 2014 ultra limited Cvo, I had one problem with that, after doing a full 3 hole service getting ready for sturgis ,I happen to add just a lil bit of coolant but my mistake was cracking open that radiator cap... well short story, that cap went out and I caused my coolant to leak out the thru the overflow, i stop by back hills Harley and they said it will be 4 hrs min to pressure test the coolant system, no faults codes showing, so I bought a gallon of coolant from them for 20.00... when I got to salt lake Utah ,I decided to buy a cap added more coolant and that solved the problem, rode 855 to California with out a prob..
@billgonzales89783 жыл бұрын
get rid of it go back to normal harleys
@dwheeler0162 жыл бұрын
The system works great on my bike
@petedetects70122 жыл бұрын
Sir ,the first time the system kicked on I thought my engine was done . It literally sounded like an old sewing machine . Then i noticed the system shutting off the rear cylinder more often ,sometimes 10 minutes into the ride , even when the temperature was in the 70s . Should I be concern , What may cause the issue . My bike is a 2016 road glide ultra twin cooled 103 . Thanks for any help or advice. Pete
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson2 жыл бұрын
Yes you should be concerned. Take it to your local Dealer for a complete check. There is an updated water pump that is so much better than the original...Doc
@MatthewMoadebi5 жыл бұрын
Hi Doc great information thank you very much. I ride a 2007 Ultra Classic Electra glide, my bike heats up in summer time in traffic. Does 2007 Ultra has the management system and how do I turn it on. I tried what you showed on your video but I was unsuccessful in turning it on. I would appreciate if you tell me how.
@tommychewning42023 жыл бұрын
Mines gets so damn hot. My 88s never got that HOT. HMMMH.
@radioroadie6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video .. loving my 2017
@olavkjær27 күн бұрын
Hi, I have just replaced a defect water pump with an M8 pump on my CVO Street glide from 2015 After a test ride the cooling fluid was leaking out of the radiator cap replaced the Cap with a new one then it was leaking on the supply hose and discharge hose on the pump it seems like the pressure is too high in the system and causing leaks,have any had similar experiences.
@labf19694 жыл бұрын
great explanation .... thanks !
@kenlautsch71047 ай бұрын
Doc Harley (Mike). Would it be possible to split the cooling radiators, making one Into an oil cooler? I think it could be done by re-arrainging the hoses to accomplish that. I presently have a 2015 Ultra Limited. I have been told that Harley does not offer an oil cooler for those models due to the cooling system taking all the forward area. If it is possible, that in itself would be a huge advance for a very practical solution. Harley engineers should have considered that while still in the design stage.
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson7 ай бұрын
It is like asking a pig to fly. Both radiators are needed. The design requires that much service area to cool. You are correct, the motor needs an oil cooler. My own opinion would to add an oil cooler (with fan). Contact Jaggs or Ultra cool…..Doc
@kenlautsch71047 ай бұрын
Like I said, Harley does not offer an oil cooler for twin cooled bikes, I checked. With one radiator cools the heads, the other cools the oil. Both working together would keep heat out of the engine. After all isn't that point? Most after market, including Harley are smaller than the existing coolers. You sound very closed minded. Does nobody ever say "WHAT IF" or "WHY NOT"? You seem unable to think out of the box. I have been an owner and do most of the required mechanical tasks for over 50 years. Some people lack creativity, or never question some of the engineering. Look around yourself dood, there are some very creative people in our community. Isn't that how a good portion of accessories and upgrades 😀 come about? Somewhere, some how, somebody said "why not"? Or "how come?
@kenlautsch71047 ай бұрын
I built an81Shovelhead from the frame up. That HOG (pig did fly). Very basic motorcycle, not much new technology in that old girl. The principals are the same though. That build taught me to think out of the box. Now, this new bike is becoming another learning experience. I'm now 80, and still learning.
@michaelkeliher64383 жыл бұрын
Great job on info
@vf12497439Ай бұрын
My bike pukes a little coolant out of the over flow on hot days after i shut it off. When its cold i top it off to the cold/add line. After it pukes up some coolant and i leave to to completely cool down theres no coolant visable in the tank until i fire it up and get it hot again. Then the level is a pinch over the cold line. Ive just started leaving it there since it spits out the rest of the coolant anyway.
@ericrhinehart6055 Жыл бұрын
Wondering where you stand on it today. EITMS on my 2015 (with the updated pump installed before I bought it) activates at stop after four minutes run time if OAT is over 79f. I have the FP3 on it to monitor temp, and I see 205 cruising in 95f Florida, and 190 cruising in 80f Florida. I did add the OilBud cooler just because the water cooling occupies space needed for oil cooler SO HD JUST DELETED THE OIL COOLER! It's all about meeting EPA requirements and little about engine life. No way my eng temps get anywhere near 260 even in stop, stop, stay stopped and go a little/repeat traffic at 95f! It has been said that the EITMS was added just to satisfy the feds and the girls on back by lowering heat coming off the rear pipe! My 2010 FatBob also has a FP and it runs 220 cruising in the heat and up to 275 in stop and go traffic. It does cool off to 230 / 240 as soon as you get moving a little.
@DukeOn2s2 ай бұрын
What about being stuck in traffic, the EITMS kicks in, but the oil pressure gauge is at zero and the oil light is flickering. Crazy hot and can't pull over anywhere.
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson2 ай бұрын
That is a terrible moment for a Harley-Davidson owner…..Doc
@richardpitts62843 жыл бұрын
I don't have one , but good info !
@nicktrierweiler36904 жыл бұрын
How did this guy not end up on NBC sports?
@garyzanghi9272 Жыл бұрын
Good video I'll keep my 2003 & 2006
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
Thanks…..Doc
@javivalle135 жыл бұрын
"Warranty doesn't cover stupidity" Right!! But after that, they call you picky anyway...
@davidsullivan62016 жыл бұрын
Still think your info videos are great. Did I mention I think that Bikini Model strutting around in the background is a nice addition.
@Bionic_man093 жыл бұрын
When you turn the eitms on, and it is working, when you take off from a stop, and say a few miles down the road, does it stay turned off and you have to manually turn it back on? I’ve noticed on my 08 ultra classic, when I come to a stop after initially turning the eitms on, I have to turn it back on after I’ve been riding and come to a stop
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson3 жыл бұрын
Normally it stays on..It only activates at a certain temperature. So if you turn it on at a stop because it is so hot, riding down the road the motor will cool down below the activating temp so it won't be coming on at the next stop until the motor reaches the activation temp...Doc
@ElvisOnAShark5 жыл бұрын
Some people are going to blip that throttle like their life depended on it regardless of how the bike is running. Medically it’s called “look how cool I think I am” syndrome.
@BBD404 жыл бұрын
says Elvis
@mr.ohitiin61454 жыл бұрын
Doc, does the rear cylinder shots off on the Sportster 04 when the engine over heats or that only occurs on particular models such as Twin Water Cooled engines?
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson4 жыл бұрын
2004 Sportsters do not have any heat management software. Thanks ~ Doc
@jamieelder7438 Жыл бұрын
This may have changed, but I just bought a 23 ultra, and the salesman said I could let it idle all day parked with no problem?
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
A big exaggeration..you could but it won’t be the same bike tomorrow…Doc
@jamieelder7438 Жыл бұрын
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson thank you
@spanky13465 жыл бұрын
Ohh and on that cylinder shut down, it takes to getting used of it.. lol I also was frustrated feeling that it’s missing.. I pushed the info button and shows on screen when it is active, enable/disable I do feel the difference in eng temp
@mccluremetalworks42145 жыл бұрын
I have that exact color 14 ultra,love my bike!
@GJM8665 жыл бұрын
Great information, had no idea Harley even made this type of cooling system. I ride a 1998 Electra Glide, so I have none of these issues. Personally I do not like the new stuff at all.
@ridinandwrenchinwithjohn23765 жыл бұрын
I have had Harleys since the 80's. I'll take the new technology any day. Twin cooled motors work great.
@CarlosOrtega-hn1qq4 жыл бұрын
@@ridinandwrenchinwithjohn2376 I THINK THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WORKS GREAT FOR THE HARLEY DAVIDSON DEALERS TO GET YOUR MONEY YOU HAVE TO PAY ONE HOUR LABOR JUST TO PUT THE STUPID DIGITAL TECH ON YOUR FUCKING NEW TECH HARLEY P. OF SHIT.
@shooter-vx7xy3 жыл бұрын
What issues? This is a video on how the Twin Cooled engines work. There's no issues, lol.
@GJM8663 жыл бұрын
@@shooter-vx7xy I was referring to the fact that the riders are making the topic into an issue, not that the problem is with the Harley.
@Alex-kp2db4 жыл бұрын
The computer is smarter than YOU the rider. Iet it do its job. Good info Doc.
@comptondrew7694 жыл бұрын
Great advice
@tommychewning42023 жыл бұрын
Talk to me about my 2007 Harley Davidson Ultra glide. Hottest damn bike have owned.Pinging bad and very rough idle. Bone stock. 19000 miles. Talk to me Doctor.
@ericrhinehart6055 Жыл бұрын
And the 2001 RK with jetting just doesn't get very hot at all!
@اسماعيلالغروي-ث1ض4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@trikemike7291 Жыл бұрын
Hello doc I am in the Washington DC area when I’m in stop and go my engine gets so hot that I lose the ability to use my clutch whatever gear I am iin that gear rather is first or second the clutch I can’t change anything until the engine cools down what can I do about this
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
This is very concerning. I have never heard of a motor getting this hot to effect the clutch. Oil levels must be checked in all 3..Motor, Primary and Transmission. Next clutch adjustment, shift linkage and belt adjustment. A dealer visit might be your best move. Please everyone, year, model, mileage helps….Doc
@solofreediver84324 жыл бұрын
What do you think about shutting off at the intersection waiting for the light to change?
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson4 жыл бұрын
In extreme measures only, the starting system has the largest drain on the battery.
@Sig721Tau7 жыл бұрын
Doc, Is it true that Harley Davidson is having a recall on that M8 engine for an oil leak through an oil line? Also, I heard about overheating issues as well. Any thoughts?
@obfuscated30906 жыл бұрын
If you cared you could look up the recalls online in seconds.
@mikep.5416 жыл бұрын
Doc, I’m confused. I am looking at a new tri glide. Trying to understand the twin cooled system. You stated that a fellow riding in high heat should just let the bike idle and attempt to cool itself. Should I still look for that piece of shady shoulder to wait out the traffic jam with the engine shut off, or can I now sit in traffic, idling, and not worry about engine overheat?
@mrvoyagerm5 жыл бұрын
You should watch the video again - that's not what he stated at all.
@joechunchick4772 Жыл бұрын
The first time my EITMS turned on at a red light I thought I was loosing a rod , it scared the hell out of me
@jhask6419 күн бұрын
Same
@LonesomeNomad1374 жыл бұрын
How far back did Harley start putting the cooling systems in? I have an 05 Super Glide.
@ToadLick4 жыл бұрын
I think 2014 was the first year. Think... didn't look it up.
@jamesyunes13643 жыл бұрын
My wife is not riding anymore could you tell me how much lower can I get my 2007 Roadking custom Harley i would like to get 3 inches.
@hidinfrombiden62513 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't we all like 3 more inches😂
@fishuntr5 жыл бұрын
Doc - I really like your videos. Very well done and informative. One thing though, these bikes all have engines, not motors. A pet peeve of mine. Just sayin. Thanks for all your hard work on these vids. B
@Steverinomeister4 жыл бұрын
B B yeah that’s why they called enginecycles
@ThePeopleVerse3 жыл бұрын
Who called the grammar police?
@davidg99273 жыл бұрын
My fans don’t come on anymore but I can start them manually . And advice?
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes this happens when a "tuner" is added. Check fuses. I don't know what year you have but if the pump is going bad it will pop the fuse. On a rare occasion the early pump relays can pop the fuse also....Doc
@pastorjohnculbertson661 Жыл бұрын
I want a 23 cvo roadglide, air cooled only!
@blade-x Жыл бұрын
clear video hahahaha nice explaned
@dennism1035 жыл бұрын
I ride my m8 road king like a baby, never over 4,000 rpm and warm it up always...
@nobody-yu4cf5 жыл бұрын
Because it's a pile of dirt
@HillCountryCodger2 жыл бұрын
"Well, if I mess up the engine due to my ignorance, the warranty will cover it." Sounds like something a RUB would say.
@Firestorm6374 жыл бұрын
Good points
@KevinLopez-vf1wk6 жыл бұрын
Harley Davidson; not Harley Davison. Aside from that, I enjoy your videos.
@michiganborn83035 жыл бұрын
I have an oil cooler on my '14 SG. Is it still twin cooled being both the oil and air flow?
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson5 жыл бұрын
Not to Harley’s standards
@billgonzales89783 жыл бұрын
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson F harley standards
@MrBluoct5 жыл бұрын
What happens in multi mile interstate back ups and immediate act to over heating? Dc Northern Va. mayhem Are the proactive add ons / mods for higher density areas and routine traffic jams. Fan assemblies other oil cooling tech Or prayer...
@HOOLIGANfilmz4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Is this a M8 thing?
@gentlemenking29734 жыл бұрын
Harley DavidsonTouring models water cooling system PROBLEM????
@ontheothersideoftheroad Жыл бұрын
Some HD owners are very ignorant to this information. I sort of blame HD staff for not explaining this to the customers granted its in the manual but who reads the manual anyway.
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
🤷♂️….Doc
@gvente877 жыл бұрын
the 280 degrees that Doc mentioned: is that OIL temperature? head temperature?
@ChaoticBinary7 жыл бұрын
oil
@creigmacc4 жыл бұрын
Head temp not oil. Oil at 280 is cooked oil.
@35goonyboy5 жыл бұрын
Great job on the videos. Sad that you have to explain things as basic as an air cooled engine to people who ride one, a lot of the fun for some of us is actually knowing (somewhat) the machine you pilot and how it works.We humans are a funny bunch and from A to Z we all ride for different reasons..... but we ride !
@wideglide03fxdwg2 жыл бұрын
Its twin cooled!
@35goonyboy2 жыл бұрын
@@wideglide03fxdwg with a thimble full of coolant.. yep “twin cooled”
@wideglide03fxdwg2 жыл бұрын
@@35goonyboy do you own one?
@35goonyboy2 жыл бұрын
@@wideglide03fxdwg 16 ultra. Slow/heavy/underpowered. Girlfriend likes riding on the back and is perfect for slow straight line riding and showing up somewhere cool dressed as a pirate
@35goonyboy2 жыл бұрын
@@wideglide03fxdwg just purchased 3 Royal Enfield 2- 350 Classics 1- Meteor for the girlfriend to ride … most fun I’ve had with 20hp and $4500. My Harley is a nice bike I just think Harley screws their customers with the “stage this and that”. To me 900 Lbs and 87hp stock is a joke
@chrispybattyone59373 жыл бұрын
Got damn blippers, buggers!
@niceguy913206 жыл бұрын
Harley will deny warranty at any chance they are given. Opps you didn't buy their Choking Eagle products & went aftermarket, sucks to be you- warranty denied. Tuner installed, flow chart shows deny warranty claim.
@tf25296 ай бұрын
I still do not understand why Harley decided that the twin cooled bikes did nit need oil coolers, i my humble opinion, pure stupidity or perhaps just the bean counters getting their way.
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson6 ай бұрын
I agree…..Doc
@tcman10035 ай бұрын
Prue stupidity I agree
@tomcata14678 жыл бұрын
Very good, informative video........that the fact is that the two radiators and thermostat and coolant pump, and all that plumbing, are just there to really only cool the exhaust valves which are the hottest part of the heat output on Twin Cam engines, and the cylinders have no water jackets, like in normal, Metric "real" liquid cooled, engines which cools the whole engine, down.........and Lord, help the biker who drops this Twin Cooled bike, and cracks a radiator, and have coolant leaking all over the pavement, creating a hazmat disaster, on top of having to replace the cracked radiator. Metric bikes, with real liquid cooling only need one radiator, which is protected, by being cradled, in the middle of the down tubes on the frame and a dropped bike will typically not create a radiator leak, at all. It's real an illusion, this whole Twin Cooled Mount Rushmore Project, bikes. I would rather, just have an air cooled, Evo, single cam, bike, which typically runs cooler, than any Twin Cam bikes. Thanks for the video. Very informative and an eye opener.
@1957eberhart7 жыл бұрын
shut the f up you mama boy yama want a be biker
@tomcata14677 жыл бұрын
j Eber: What's the matter pal, can't handle the truth? Just stating facts, and I notice you that you are not disputing facts....your just spouting off at the mouth....let's hear your thoughts on the facts, instead......
@Zak-ol7vd6 жыл бұрын
tomcata1467 ii
@tux6made6 жыл бұрын
tomcata dropping the twin cool Harley is not going to bust the radiators. They're protected entirely by the engine guard (crash bar). As far as the "Hazmat disater" if the antifreeze leaked...come on dude. Also take a look at some of the metric radiators...many of them are wider then the frame and will be damaged when dropped...unlike the Twin Cool. You mention the "real" liquid cooled, engines which cools the whole engine, down. I'm trying to figure out where that even makes sense. The harley engine is an air cooled engine with additional valve seat liquid cooling. It's not "fake" it's a totally "real" successful design engineered and built into the Harley with Twin Cool. If the Harley did have a valve seat cooling issue (cracked radiator, bad thermostat, leaky hose etc) so what... ride your machine home with no damage to the engine. Metric with "real" engine cooling...you're not going to get very far before your engine is destroyed. BTW I don't own a Harley, I have a Yamaha V-Max which I dropped a few years back...and cracked the radiator.
@alanwhiteside4106 жыл бұрын
tomcata1467 On the twin cooled HD you can still get Home if you damaged your radiator but not on a metric bike, nothing against them bikes just saying I have had both types. The HD has the engine guards that will protect the radiators and several metric bikes do not like the 1985 V-Max I once owned and there are several others metric bikes that don’t have protection around the radiator also. So after reading your comments I don’t think you know what your talking about and your not much of a biker.
@NickCochran-hh6sq Жыл бұрын
Is there a Fatboy with just one headlight a single round
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
I thought all fat Boys have a single round headlight. The Fat Bob has a rectangular headlight….Doc
@wooddawg48683 жыл бұрын
Harley Davidson needs to cool these hot motorcycles down. Harley Davidson has to get into the fully liquid cooled engine business plain and simple.
@billgonzales89783 жыл бұрын
where did you come from mars water cooled harley i think not
@MrOnelegnick5 жыл бұрын
Harley screwed up so bad when they went to the twin cam design. Run way to hot and they just ignored the issue!
@ridinandwrenchinwithjohn23765 жыл бұрын
It's called EPA requirements, it wasn't by choice. Adding a tuner to richen them up cools them down drastically.
@Johnr37us5 жыл бұрын
Who is Mike ? I thought your name was Doc Harley. lol 😆
@ThePeopleVerse3 жыл бұрын
Nick name
@KamaTanha Жыл бұрын
Davissson
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын
Really? Out of the whole video you call out this?……Doc
@KamaTanha Жыл бұрын
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson Yeah, it's endearing. I've watched dozens of these videos I love them. And he always leaves that second D out.
@Sgtyork4888 жыл бұрын
old school or new Harley Goldwing school sad
@ridinandwrenchinwithjohn23765 жыл бұрын
New school any day of the week. No heat issues with my twin cooled compared to my older bikes.
@showcasecharlie115 жыл бұрын
How about harley build a fucking motor that wont overheat in the first place?...
@dennism1035 жыл бұрын
Oh I get it ur a Harley doctor not a medical doctor.
@PeggyHunt-z9d6 ай бұрын
Just like Cadillac vereable v 8 that shit dident work either remember😅😅😅😅😅
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson6 ай бұрын
No one old enough at the Factory to remember…..Doc
@ronaldlsmith15512 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 limited low twin cooled everyone has a harley Davidson joke yes I laugh at times but you ride a misfiring Honda
@LowCountryHarleyDavidson2 жыл бұрын
There is a comedian in every post.
@billgonzales89783 жыл бұрын
Garbage, my bagger runs great in traffic I installed an oil cooler done deal. this bike this guy is talking about stay away from that junk bike never buy a harley liquid cooled pure gimmic junk