She's telling them ''that woman over there doesn't watch sesskasays reactions to doctor who'' it made them freak out and run away
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
LOL
@adamcarlson21924 ай бұрын
Could you blame them!?
@Antxii-Chan3 ай бұрын
@@adamcarlson2192 yeah
@kbg12ila5 ай бұрын
Here's my interpretation of what happened: The Circle has a self defense mechanism, a way of stopping itself from ever getting broken. It does this by creating a splintered timeline around the breaker of the circle with the absolute worst life they could ever imagine with all their fears coming true. For Ruby its her fear of abandonement and people leaving her for seemingly no reason. It gives her this life and then at the end of her life has her go back and stop herself from ever breaking the circle. The reason we never know why people run is to feed Ruby's trauma of not knowing why she was left as a baby. The reasons we cant see the old womans face even through cameras is because its Ruby's only companion in life and its "always distant" feeding her loneliness even more. The reason the Doctor disappeared and the tardis didn't is because as another breaker of the circle he also went through his own 73 yards storyline where even the tardis abandoned him. One of the best episodes of the show ever. Up there with Blink, Midnight, Turn Left, Heaven Sent.
@cooluncle42425 ай бұрын
That's the best theory I've heard so far. I enjoyed it immensely as well, and not every episode has to spoon feed the audience every answer. Sometimes, it's fun to speculate, although I think some of the answers may come later in the series.
@op-15 ай бұрын
Brilliant dissection of a great episode
@lordhoot15 ай бұрын
What is it about these Doctor/companion light episodes that makes them so good?
@deltawho80025 ай бұрын
100% agree. This episode has reinvigorated my interest in Doctor Who again. I was close to never watching it again, however with the chance of more episodes like this is what will keep me coming back for more.
@kbg12ila5 ай бұрын
@@lordhoot1I think it's that it forces the writers to think outside of the box, and also to play around with the core tropes of the show. Most doctor lite episodes explore what it's like for the companions without the doctors help. This episode goes so far that the doctor never even knows about what happened this whole time and therefore, even us as the audience are without the doctor and without his explanations. (Another reason for the unanswered questions.)
@moonlightbay48145 ай бұрын
21:15 "He says 'Hello' to everyone." You are the only person who spotted that!
@Wolf61194 ай бұрын
I'd argue that even though he says hello to everyone he still would have been influenced by the perception filter around the old lady, and probably wouldn't have noticed her since he was looking over at Ruby she wasn't explicitly pointed out to him. Otherwise you'd expect tons of people who just randomly pass by within 73 yards of Ruby to freak out and run away. Buuut it does also seem like there may have been something supernatural about Mad Jack himself as well, so maybe that's precisely what allowed him to notice the old woman everyone else ignored, and ironically what brought about his downfall as well.
@moonlightbay48144 ай бұрын
@@Wolf6119 You are thinking about this way too much. It's not real. Find something real to put your energy into.
@Wolf61194 ай бұрын
@@moonlightbay4814 That’s for me to decide, actually, thanks for the input input. I don’t personally consider two paragraphs worth of speculation about stuff that was all shown on-screen as “too much thinking”, but to each their own.
@moonlightbay48144 ай бұрын
@@Wolf6119 It's fine to think about it. It's fine to think about the writer's thought processes and how concepts like 'the supernatural' and 'perception filters' get them out of dead ends. It's another thing to talk about these things as if they are real (unless you are 7 years old - I think you aren't!).
@HellfireComms5 ай бұрын
It's rare that we get episodes that don't spell everything out. I kinda like that. A very atmospheric and creepy episode. Loved it!
@Axetwin5 ай бұрын
There's a difference between "not spelling everything out" and giving people enough clues to piece it all together themselves.
@ameliacraiig41934 ай бұрын
@@Axetwin ....And a difference between those two approaches to storytelling, and *_barely_* giving people enough clues to piece it all together, so that it prompts mass-scale speculation & theorising as seen in multiple comment sections. I personally love _this_ option for that very reason. Plus it was an intriguing, brilliant, captivating episode in itself.😊
@Axetwin4 ай бұрын
@@ameliacraiig4193 Parts of the episode was great, but the last 3 minutes felt like a RTD wrote himself into a corner and didn't know how to write himself out. As pure coincidence he just happened to be watching the Haunting of Hill House and concocted a quick deus ex machina to get himself out of it. THAT'S what the ending felt like.
@sallyatticum4 ай бұрын
@@Axetwin "We see something inexplicable and invent the rules to make it work." Kate Lethbridge-Stewart There is no right answer. Same as with myths and folklore and legends. People see something they don't have any explanation for, so they try to come up with an explanation on their own.
@TheMess98984 ай бұрын
@@Axetwin This gave us everything we needed to know, if you watch and listen.
@HonestlyAccurate5 ай бұрын
The episode really reminded me of elements in "Turn Left" & "The Curse of Clyde Langer", having a timeline where choices really matter and having to deal with a burden that turns people against the focused character. The interactions were really good between Ruby & "The Herald", from a looming discomfort to a manageable lifestyle throughout their time together, yet far.
@ninjabluefyre38154 ай бұрын
I definitely got both of those as well as Father's Day. I do wish we got, not an explanation, but a reason, and there is a difference.
@quintuscrinis4 ай бұрын
Isn't this just normal life?
@ryanpollard11665 ай бұрын
73 Yards is definitely an experience that I probably will never have again. Doctor Who as an A24 horror film. One of the most weird and baffling yet fascinating and thought-provoking stories of Doctor Who yet. Haunting, tragic, melancholic and heartbreaking. A fantastic showcase for Ruby and Millie Gibson is an absolute sensation, especially considering this was the first story she filmed.
@Dalekscientist5 ай бұрын
You mention A24, the plot is very similar to A Ghost Story, which is an A24 film
@flaggerify5 ай бұрын
It wasn't that creepy.
@danielkiran81745 ай бұрын
@@flaggerify It was SUPER creepy. With other Doctor Who monsters you can at least get rid of them. But this woman is always there.
@sergiocastro16365 ай бұрын
@@flaggerifyIt's more like a psicological terror creepy than a visual terror creepy.
@flaggerify5 ай бұрын
@@danielkiran8174 Not creepy enough to put me off watching it again.
@ishaandw5 ай бұрын
"This timeline might be suspended along your event."
@Jim_The_Fish4 ай бұрын
Even in an alternate timeline, Kate knows what’s up. Especially after Turn Left with Donna, whom she’s met (that was technically another timeline, but hey, so was this episode).
@kizora63424 ай бұрын
Everyone says this line sounds weird, but she's saying "this timeline" as in "this series of events in chronological order", not "this timeline" as in "this alternate reality"
@glynhorton49235 ай бұрын
I'm a Welshman. Can i say that most Welsh people are a lot friendlier than the characters in this episode!
@flaggerify5 ай бұрын
Most. This has the rest of them.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
RTD is usually extremely positive about Wales, so we can cut him some slack to have fun with a grumpy pub crowd!
@Dunybrook4 ай бұрын
I thought they were great. Not their fault they were influenced by the supernatural lady.
@HuntingViolets4 ай бұрын
I'm sure you're lovely.
@HuntingViolets4 ай бұрын
@@Dunybrook Is that what we think happened? I thought they were just jerks.
@thedoctor43275 ай бұрын
That creepy PM Roger AP Gwilliam, “Don’t You Think He Looks Tired?”
@scotthewitt2585 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing!
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
He looks like the kind of man who thinks money and power allows him to grab women by the pussy. Of course, no country would be insane enough to vote for such a man.
@paulshorney34654 ай бұрын
He was probably wondering why he had such a short time on screen!
@Babbitty815 ай бұрын
Interesting point on this one is that it was the first episode Millie filmed. This one was done first because Ncuti was still filming Sex Education so wasn’t available yet, hence why he was hardly in it.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Not sure why they couldn't just wait for him, after all this was made nearly 18 months ago. It doesn't take that long to make 6 or 7 episodes...
@Babbitty814 ай бұрын
@@frankshailes3205 sorry, don’t get wrong, the episode was always going to be what it was, the reason they chose to film it first was because they knew they could get the vast majority of it done with out him, the episode would have still been exactly the same had they filmed them in order.
@marshsundeen4 ай бұрын
Every Doctor has had one Doctor Lite episode. Blink is one of my favorites.
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
@@Babbitty81 you will find that 'out of order filming' is much the norm, demanded by weather, availability of location shots, and other things that go wrong.. If you watch the 'behind the scenes' doctorwho:unleashed film, you will see a lot of answers, even what the 'mystic figure' was actually saying and doing..
@Babbitty814 ай бұрын
@@bobm4378 I’m well aware of that and never said it wasn’t the norm. I also watched the unleashed programme, funnily enough that’s where I got the info above from.
@tomkadams5 ай бұрын
Totally agree, I'm glad there is no full explanation to tie everything up in a neat bow. I think I have a pretty great explanation for the episode myself and have seen some other good theories, but the fact that we could watch the episode and just enjoy the creepy vibes and then puzzle out the reasoning ourselves later is lots of fun imo
@Thescrantondude5 ай бұрын
Well I want answers:[
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
@@Thescrantondude download / watch the 'behind the scenes' doctorwho:unleashed film, you will see a lot of answers..
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
We'll go ask RTD...
@glynhorton49235 ай бұрын
The scene where Ruby meets Kate and UNIT was filmed in the high street of my home town - Newport, South Wales.
@Mayeur000Donz4 ай бұрын
I can't ever think of Newport without thinking of that Newport remix of "State of Mind"
@lordhoot14 ай бұрын
It looked distinctly unlike anywhere in London lol
@ThePonderer5 ай бұрын
I adore this episode. My heart breaks for Ruby all throughout. Also, best use of Kate in a while.
@ItsSirRazzy5 ай бұрын
Something to note. In the Behind the scenes video for this episode, its revealed that this was the first episode Millie shot as Ruby which is really impressive given how Companion Heavy this episode was along with the deep and heavy themes.
@kivimik4 ай бұрын
What better way for an actor to find their character through a full episode that's virtually a character study of Ruby's fears?
@stevenmcmullan4095 ай бұрын
Old Ruby was telling everybody, "Don't you think she looks tired?"
@deborahbryant15505 ай бұрын
I was initially so confused, but by the end I was left in awe by the superb twists and turns of this episode. Spectacular writing and powerful acting on Millie's part.
@paulflux58925 ай бұрын
Well spotted that Ruby said "3 times" rather than 2 in the final scene. I didn't spot that on my first viewing. I can't help thinking that this storyline with the abandoned Tardis on the clifftop ties back to the comment that 14 made to Not-Donna (when he still thought he was talking to Donna) in Wild Blue Yonder, about what would happen to the Tardis without him.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Parting of the Ways too.
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
At the start, she says she has been to wales 2 times, 'went to see 'shygirl' in Cardiff, went to Mumbles because of a boy, neglecting that this is the 3rd time visiting wales (in the tardis) and at the end she says '3 times' but still says 'went to see 'shygirl' in Cardiff, went to Mumbles because of a boy... neglecting that this is the 3rd time visiting wales (in the tardis) ... mistake???
@filthycasual81874 ай бұрын
@@bobm4378 Possibly.
@TastySalamanders5 ай бұрын
You called it on the fandom reaction: People either love the episode feeling how nothing is explained enhances the horror. Other people seem to hate it feeling it was too ambiguous and lacked closure. I fall into the camp of liking that it didn't explain it and forces you to keep asking questions after the end.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
They'd go frantic over Sapphire and Steel.
@kivimik4 ай бұрын
"73 Yards" is much like "Listen" in that regard: not everything is fully explained. I have a soft spot for ambiguous stories.
@hollyvanwye92944 ай бұрын
I liked it for pretty much the same reason as you. It's my favorite episode of Season 1 (so far).
@jamesreader67095 ай бұрын
The episode made me think of the darker fairytales. The story resolves in a darkly sweet way, Ruby having accomplished her purpose. Really good I thought.
@cairothetiefling_4 ай бұрын
An incredible piece of this episode- this is Millie’s first episode she filmed. Her first performance, her first ever scenes on doctor who at eighteen, without even Ncuti to help her because he was off filming sex education, and she killed it.❤
@celicynd5 ай бұрын
75% of the episodes so far have had "watch where you step" moments... Space Babies and the butterfly, Boom with the mine, and now this with the fairy circle. Coincidence? (Looks around for Goblins)
@SeeJay814 ай бұрын
I was trying to piece this together, but where in Space Babies did they watch their step? I think I missed that one
@celicynd4 ай бұрын
@@SeeJay81 right at the beginning. Ruby has a conversation with him about stepping on a butterfly and he shrugs it off, then when they get out of the TARDIS in dinosaur era, she steps on a butterfly and turns into a lizard person. He revives the butterfly and everything goes back to normal
@hollyvanwye92944 ай бұрын
You make an interesting point!
@SeeJay814 ай бұрын
@@celicynd oh so she did 🤦🏻♂️ thanks for clarifying
@MatthewStephensAU5 ай бұрын
Ruby is 50% Donna and 50% Clara. A staggering unliklihood, with a mystery of her own. The snow, the extra timeline in this episode, her birthmother question hanging over everything...
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
have you seen 'unleashed' lots more details, and misleading stuff for fans to speculate on :/ LOL
@joshuajoshua27324 ай бұрын
Everyone keeps comparing Ruby to Clara I must be the only one because I just don't see it.
@MatthewStephensAU4 ай бұрын
@@joshuajoshua2732 Not as a person, just as the 'impossible girl' story.
@HuntingViolets4 ай бұрын
@@joshuajoshua2732 I know they are talking storywise, but I saw a thumbnail with Ruby awhile ago and wondered why Clara had blonde hair. Their faces are quite similar and I had not realized it till then.
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets intentional, the casting operator found a lookalike...
@garycullen73905 ай бұрын
NCUTI was filming on another show and this was filmed first for the season.
@TheMess98984 ай бұрын
In the behind the scenes video, RTD says: “Something profane has happened with the disturbance of this fairy circle. There’s been a lack of respect. The Doctor is normally very respectful of alien lifeforms and cultures, but now he’s just walked through something very powerful, and something’s gone wrong. But this something is corrected when Ruby has to spend a life of penitence in which she does something good, which brings the whole thing full circle. It forgives them in the end.” Personally, I also think it’s important to acknowledge the underlying theme of Ruby’s worst fear: abandonment. To appease this spirit and save the world, she had to confront her fear of everyone she loves abandoning her, just as her own birth mother did. The "Old woman" didn't really say anything to anyone...it was part of the penitence and her fear. She had to keep people at distance, like her boyfriend as she got older. When she needed someone to be there for her, to help her...by talking to the "old woman", they then had to abandon her. It was her curse and her power, which she used to stop Mad Jack. The final piece to break this curse was at the end, she reaches out to embrace this part of herself, fully accepting who she is in spite of her fear and is able to stop the "curse" and reset.
@jacobhogan32085 ай бұрын
This episode is controversial online but I love it deeply. It’s paced amazingly and felt different.
@AmyWarriorPrincess5 ай бұрын
All new Doctor Who episodes are controversial online. That's a given
@cooluncle42425 ай бұрын
I've watched a few reactions to this episode, and it's not been that positive. The problem seems to be that all the answers weren't spoon-fed to us at the end. I quite liked the mystery, and we can come up with our own theories. I think we may get some of the answers later in the season.
@clintdavis14525 ай бұрын
Most people giving intensely negative responses to this episode are the same that are just projecting their hate of how progressive the show is
@AmyWarriorPrincess5 ай бұрын
@clintdavis1452 people don't like the fact the show has to change with the times. It can't stay like it was in the 60s and 70s. The show was just reflecting what is going on in the world right now, just like a lot of classic Who episodes did. Every time someone complains about it, I tell them to go back and watch the classic episodes because they did the same thing
@AmyWarriorPrincess5 ай бұрын
@@cooluncle4242 I guess they forgot what RTD and Moffitt did. They didn't spoon feed us a lot of the answers until the end of their series. Go figure😖🙄
@leonidasrising59984 ай бұрын
The two things that I’ve noticed when I was watching this episode was “Is it possible it might be her future self?” Since she was doing something similar to when Amy and Rory saw their future selves the first time they faced the Silurians. And another one was “What if it’s a Psycophonic Curse?” The same curse Clyde had when he touched the Totem pole. This episode was so sad, terrifying and great at the same time, as well as how it reminds me a lot of two good stories in New-Who.
@penfold74555 ай бұрын
Amazing performance by Siân Phillips (the old woman at the bar). Who here thinks Jess should do a reaction to the whole "I Claudius" mini-series from 1975? That had an amazing performance from Siân Phillips as well with the character Livia; who makes Cersei Lannister look like a sweet angel.
@flaggerify5 ай бұрын
I thought she looked/sounded familiar.
@hollyvanwye92944 ай бұрын
I remember Livia, and she was a holy terror! What a powerhouse actress Sian Phillips has always been.
@CalMusicCovers5 ай бұрын
This is my favourite episode thus far, really good writing!
@TheTeamAka5 ай бұрын
Omg that top, as Donna and 14 would say GORGEOUS
@ernie-_-94155 ай бұрын
CREEP
@Randomperson-nc7ye5 ай бұрын
@@ernie-_-9415 saying a top is gorgeous is not creepy are you okay?
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
@@Randomperson-nc7ye I thought they meant Ncuti's fantastic orange coat!
@TheNovaBridger21 күн бұрын
Fun fact: the pub/hotel place was also used for the Torchwood series 1 episode "Countrycide"
@arankatarn12425 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this one. So surreal and weird. Do not get why people are complaining that too much is unexplained, it was explained. They disturbed a fairy circle. As they say in Ireland, "You do not feck with the good gentlemen of the hills." The fairies did it.
@LauraGS5645 ай бұрын
people complain a lot about everything these days
@cah137-y4s4 ай бұрын
This episode might have scared me more than any episode since “Blink”. It’s a very different type of fear- sheer overwhelming dread rather than anxiety over when the next jumpscare is going to happen- but the sheer level of tension I felt watching this was off the goddamn charts.
@cid70164 ай бұрын
Sesska going "okay" at the "of course you can pay with your phone" is a vibe. Seriously, what is UP with those people? Rude LMAO
@Look_Over_There5 ай бұрын
I think the implication is that the fairy circle holds the spirit of ‘mad jack’ the doctor accidentally released him early, which is why the whole turn left split timeline was created. Rubies special nature like Donna in turn left allowed her to fight the alternate reality, The doctor still knows who mad jack the prime minister is because someone else probably stumbled along a few months later and released him to be born anyway. But we’ve already seen the whole butterfly effect so by coming into power that little bit later it’s a different chain of events and things probably dont play out as bad as they do on rubies alternate time.
@SunniestAutumn5 ай бұрын
People love to discuss the mechanics of the fairy circle and the literal intetpretations of the events, but I think those people are missing the forest for the trees. The episode is not about old fairy magics or time loops. Because people seem to have trouble grasping the central metaphor of the episode, I am going to explain it. You can call it my reading of the episode if you'd like, but it is also the clear intended reading of the episode. If you'd rather keep the mystery of it all alive for yourself, don't read this comment further. --- --- The episode is about Ruby's fear of abandonment. Ruby was abandoned as a baby on the steps of a church. Her whole life she has been struggling with the question of why. When the Doctor disappeared on her, the woman in the distance showed up. The woman in the distance is the physical manifestation of her fear of being abandoned. Everyone who talks to her leaves Ruby and even when they don't Ruby is subconsciously pushing the people around her away because of it. She tries to get help from strangers, from her family, from professionals, but the fear remains. Only at the very end, when Ruby acknowledges the fear in front of the Doctor, it disappears. The Doctor, a friend to Ruby and someone who never would abandon her no longer vanishes and the fear doesn't manifest. It doesn't mean she's over her fears, but it means she can learn to live with them. Whether the fear manifested because of the fairy circle or because Ruby is clearly incredibly powerful, I don't have the answers at the time, but it also doesn't matter. If you approach the episode as a sci-fi mystery with concrete answers, you are going to leave disappointed.
@Mayeur000Donz4 ай бұрын
Seeing as the season appears to be building up to a conclusion on where Ruby came from and whatnot, do you think that'll damage the supposed metaphor of this part of her journey? Does it put a damper on her "learning to live with the fear" of never knowing why she could get abandoned, if we ultimately find out why she was?
@SunniestAutumn4 ай бұрын
@@Mayeur000Donz Mental health is a complicated thing. Closure doesn't heal the cracks that have been inflicted years prior. That is, if we even get closure, because what exactly would a good conclusion to the story arc even look like, for Ruby? That her birth parents abandoned her for supposedly good reasons? What if their reasons for abandoning her aren't good? Does it really matter? In the end, she was still abandoned as a child and has had to deal with it for the past 19 years.
@ninjabluefyre38154 ай бұрын
But if she doesn't retain the experience, what does it really mean for her character? Star Trek had the Inner Light which Picard remembered. Turn Left, Donna remembered.
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
@@ninjabluefyre3815 another 4 episodes to come, even a special one about her on june 15, then a Christmas special with TWO companions, directed by Steven Moffat !
@hollyvanwye92944 ай бұрын
YES.
@zemoxian5 ай бұрын
I like the mystery. This is supposed to be based on Welsh folk horror and I think the unknown plays a role in building the terror. If it all gets explained the terror goes away. This season seems to be playing with genres as much as it’s been playing with the fourth wall. Wondering if both of those things could possibly play a role in the pantheon plot.
@Mayeur000Donz4 ай бұрын
I didn't even know Wales HAS folklore. Are any of the good ones compiled anywhere?
@robtymec20452 ай бұрын
There is no one more fun to watch reacting Doctor Who than you. Keep making these videos!!!
@jacobhogan32085 ай бұрын
I love how this episode sucks the traditional Doctor Who elements out to make the audience feel as trapped, scared, and alone as Ruby. The Doctor, the theme, Kate, UNIT, The Tardis, etc.
@Tyrconnell5 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this. My only caveat were the repeated hand signals from 'the herald'. Not that I needed an explanation of them, just someone at some point acknowledging they were happening and questioning what they were. Maybe Kate saying during their meeting, 'we've analysed those hand signals she's making....haven't come up with anything'. It felt like it was a big thing that no one commented on in 60 years (unless i missed something).
@sawdusttostardust4 ай бұрын
I am hopeful we will come back to this and it will be explained. Otherwise it's just creepy forever!
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
have a look a t 'drwho:unleashed' it explains a lot! if you did not record, its on download..
@iiTzPredatorHD5 ай бұрын
The curse of Clyde Langer, oh wait Ruby Sunday 😅
@NyderOfSkaro4 ай бұрын
MR James, A24, The Signalman, Folk Horror - this is proper mysterious ghost story where the "rules" matter less than the atmosphere and themes. Ruby's fears of abandonment played out large. Utterly beautiful and haunting.
@Torchwood55 ай бұрын
Im so happy that you reacted to this positively. We don't always have to understand everything to score an episode high.
@whobp84 ай бұрын
That pub Ruby stays at must get some interesting Yelp reviews.
@csk77694 ай бұрын
Kate and the pub gave us all the "hows" we need, it had nothing to do with the supernatural. Russel T Davies even said so in the behind the scenes. If you must have a practical explanation, landing the TARDIS's perception filter on a fairy circle causing Ruby's perception of herself to come to life and haunt her is plenty. It's the same as the salt between universes from Wild Blue Yonder that caused everything this season, bc like Doc and the old lady in the pub both said, the clifftop is a liminal space between the land and the sea, where the rules don't apply. (Space Babies also mentioned how most of the universe is still full of holes after Flux) The episode was somehow still entirely sci-fi, just like past "meta-story" bits like The Bogeyman, and I find that impressive. More importantly, that means we can toss that to the side, bc the only thing that actually matters is what it teaches us about the characters, like with Ruby's fear of abandonment (semperdistans. The Woman keeps everyone away from Ruby because of her own perception of herself, including the Doctor) and what one might do when you never receive the closure you expected. We got plenty of closure with the ending of the episode, people who say otherwise are trolling, the point is that during her journey, Ruby did not. That's why we don't ever find out what The Woman said, and we shouldn't, because any concrete answer would diminish the point. That's also why Roger ap Gwilliam is such a simple character who had nothing to do with anything supernatural, and why defeating him didn't stop Ruby's situation. The important thing is that Ruby was convinced it would. That she had a purpose here. (they straight up tell us to our face TWICE that the moment is purely symbolic) This is also why The Woman very explicitly is NOT Old Ruby, they aren't even the same actress. (check the credits or behind the scenes, Old Ruby is Amanda Walker, The Woman is Hilary Hobson) The snap back to the present is the first time Ruby actually reaches out to The Woman instead of chasing her or staying away (i also wonder if the time added up, 66.7 meters = 66.7 years? would be fun) When it comes to potential future threads related to this, i really don't think it makes sense to expect the finale to fully spell out the message and meaning of this episode, that's not necessary at all. But I do think this helps tease a greater context for later, since it seems like they're hinting at The Oldest One being a Pantheon member that's a living story, and has powers based on that, just like Toymaker and Maestro. Given that the memory of that Christmas straight up changed itself during Space Babies, and that the unique musical cue played in that moment was also played here when The Woman finished the circle and allowed Ruby to warn her younger self through her body instead, I wouldn't be surprised if the living story is Doctor himself. It would fit with The Timeless Child and what Toymaker said as well, but that is definitely still a bit more out there. Whatever story they are in could reasonably have given Ruby her powers too. I'm reminded of how tv-static or interference is often referred to as snow, and Ruby makes it snow whenever she starts to think too much about her mysterious origins
@New-tu3mn5 ай бұрын
Sesska points out the key clue to what launches the circle of events, and which I didn’t clearly hear on my own prior watching of the episode. Which was elderly Ruby on the cliff whispering, “Don’t step” to the Doctor, and young Ruby. Of course, that leads to the, wibbely wobbely, timey wimey paradox of most episodes. To be clear, I like the show’s handling of time paradoxes that way. They don’t try to reconcile them in a metaphysics way, and simply accept them, because doing so enables much more interesting stories. Doctor Who has always been about telling interesting stories, with a loose sci-fi/fantasy frame as a vehicle for moving from one story to the next.
@filthycasual81874 ай бұрын
I like that it does that because it feels like in so doing, it keeps the time travel aspect of the show honest. Like, if we ever had time travel IRL I suspect it'd likely work a LOT like it does in Doctor Who as opposed to Star Trek or Back to the Future.
@Jim_The_Fish4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this comment a few times now, and I agree with it. This episode was Doctor Who as a short A24 film. I’m still confused by some of it, but I can easily say this is one of the best standalone episodes in all of Who. Up there with Blink, Midnight, Turn Left, and Heaven Sent. I agree with every word Sesska has said. This truly is a special episode.
@Stephen-Fox5 ай бұрын
Absolutely adore this one. It's a vibe and genre that Doctor Who doesn't often attempt, without any feeling like it has to make something that's very far from sci-fi fit into a sci-fi aesthetic by the conclusion which I think serves the story well, and does a fantastic job of it. I need to sit on this further to be sure, but it's in contention for my favourite ever story/episode of Who (Alongside Midnight, Turn Left, Heaven Sent, and in the Classic era City of Death and one you haven't seen yet so I'm not going to state it's title)
@gemini3715 ай бұрын
It's like The Curse of Clyde Langer all over again 😳👀
@endymionsrage4 ай бұрын
03:12 - a Twist appears... Well this is turning out to be a recurring "can you spot Susan Twist" run. My Theory is that she is Susan Foreman, the doctors grandchild. Too many mentions of The Doctor being a Father and the explicit mention of 1963 Doctor and Susan beforehand.
@scottredding73575 ай бұрын
The entire paying with your phone scene - For a minute, I wondered if fiddling with the circle had changed the world to one without smartphones.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Every cloud has a silver lining!
@Rik774 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Haunting of hill house, it follows the "rules" of ghost stories which we aren't used to in doctor who. But I do think there's something powerful about ruby, she is able to do things that she hasn't realised yet.
@stevetheduck14254 ай бұрын
It follows the rules of Charles Dicken's 'The Signal-Man' pretty well. - and that's a favourite of the Doctor, looking back on his meeting with CD.
@solitarymaninblack5 ай бұрын
Harold Saxon or Mad Jack. Both were dangerous.
@fleason7714 ай бұрын
...& both were leaders of The Albion Party..
@joecrammond62215 ай бұрын
this was the best episode of Series 14 so far if i am honest, this episode felt so dark and heart breaking, was delighted to see Kate back, doing my best to avoid spoilers this season paid off
@SupaKen745 ай бұрын
My favorite episode this season and one of my favorite of all time and the best part is I don't know everything. Everyone complaining they don't understand or they want to know how everything works are missing the point entirely.
@deltawho80025 ай бұрын
Exactly.....100% agree.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Warriors' Gate evoked similar back in '81. My English teacher reckoned it was the best story the show had ever done to that point, and he'd been watching since 1963.
@darkphoenix68074 ай бұрын
After a rewatch, because I really did not understand the ending the first time, I noticed something. Cate tells Ruby that “ we see something inexplicable and invent the rules to make it work”. Cate also mentions “ I think this timeline might be suspended along your event .” Ruby is obviously magical. So what if the doctor stepped on that fairy circle, and was somehow “taken”. And then Ruby, being magical, starts this whole timeline of her saving the world and then coming back and stopping the doctor from stepping on the circle. Along the way she deals with her fear of abandonment. I think Ruby actually caused this story to happen in order to get the Doctor back. She might’ve even have been the one to make the doctor disappear, although she didn’t know that she did it, because she saw the circle and immediately thought it was magical. But I don’t think she was conscious of any of this. But somehow, it’s now part of her story, because the first time she got off the tardis, she said she had been whales twice, but the second time she got off she said she had been there three times. The toy maker had control over play, the Maestro had control over music, I wonder if Ruby has control over time. She seems to be able to bring the snow in from one time to her current time. Perhaps she created her own timeline for this, because she was so calm the entire episode, like none of it mattered. Like it was all about her. Almost like a maladaptive daydream. I wonder if she can control time? Hopefully, when they finally explain how Ruby is different, this episode will make more sense! If they never touch on this episode again, then this episode would be one of my least favorites because the ending really does not make sense on its own.
@cooluncle42425 ай бұрын
Great reaction as always, and I loved the fact you didn't get annoyed by not having everything explained at the end. I've watched a few reactions to this episode, and other people didn't like the ending or lack of answers. This episode is up there with Blink, Midnight, Heaven Sent and Left Turn. I also think we may get some answers later in the series as I think It'll be tied up with the Ruby mystery.
@kjo18495 ай бұрын
Honestly I expected to hate this based on twitter but I love this episode
@AmyWarriorPrincess5 ай бұрын
Twitter hates everything. Don't listen to anything that is on there
@WastedPo5 ай бұрын
Twitter hates *everything*.
@phillipayriss36085 ай бұрын
Given a choice between going to hell and going to twitter, go to hell every time. The demons are kinder in hell.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
I wouldn't let social media lead you into opinion-forming anyway, especially the absolute cesspit of X.
@nzrockboi5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jessica, listening to your view on it gave a little more perspective for me. Before I found it creepy but a little frustrated at the end at many things go unanswered but you feeling ok with that has me remembering cool stories I've read in my life that were basically the same, I feel better about it now.
@Theplaysthet5 ай бұрын
Jess. Thank you. Thank you for watching and listening and just getting this episode. So many reviewers seem lacking the skill to just…. Watch. Always love ur videos. 😊🎉❤️
@alexfletcher51924 ай бұрын
As you've now seen 'Logopolis', you can imagine what was going through the collective fan-brain when the shots of a distant figure started appearing in the publicity. And that kind of turned out to be the key to the whole mystery. I don't think the villain of the piece really had enough screen-time, although I understand he may return at some point. I did sit and wonder if RTD has some kind of portal into the near future, because this episode popped up around the time a Conservative agitator in Britain was talking about us being at war with Russia. Then the government started talking about stockpiling in case of shortages. And in the last 24 hours they want to bring back mandatory national service (which used to be a thing in Britain after the war). If I was prone to conspiracies, I might wonder if there was something they're not telling us.
@fordie14425 ай бұрын
My theory's that the Doctor disappeared because he broke the fairy circle, but that's what Ruby experienced; she disturbed the little messages, so I think she also disappeared from the Doctor's point-of-view, and they both experienced splinter timelines to ensure they never disturb the fairy circle in the first place.
@bigfatcarp935 ай бұрын
I'm gonna say what most of us are thinking Ruby is dressed just like Ashley Graham this episode
@hanonhold5 ай бұрын
I've just googled Ashley Graham and she's a model? Not sure what your comment means.
@HellfireComms5 ай бұрын
Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one lol
@danielcasco41245 ай бұрын
@@hanonhold Ashley is a character from resident evil 4. Ruby in this outfit looks alot like her.
@TenderbitsGames5 ай бұрын
Oh! She is, isn't she?
@Theplaysthet5 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for Jess to find out the ‘twist’ later on 😊😊😊
@cheapskatecoins57094 ай бұрын
Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but a little fact about this episode - this was the very first episode filmed because Ncuti Gatwa was not available when filming started as he was finishing filming for Sex Education at the time so because this episode was primarily Ruby they filmed it first.
@Midnight-hi7cv5 ай бұрын
This was very Black Mirror and I loved it
@leonardochapman47364 ай бұрын
wait for the next episode
@Nerdahedron4 ай бұрын
I agree the lack of definitive explanation was a good thing. The story is from Ruby's perspective and her never ever being sure of what happened helps sink in the horror and tragedy of it all. I think it was totally appropriate and not some kind of oversight by the writers.
@giovannimorese13865 ай бұрын
After racking my brain, I think I've come to my own interpretation of the episode. I believe that by breaking the fairy circle, the Doctor disappeared. Ruby, on the other hand, has suffered the curse of this circle, which consists in the realization of her greatest fears. What Ruby experiences is in fact a nightmare: everyone abandons her (even her adoptive mother), everyone is extremely afraid of what her true essence is, an essence that she has in front of her throughout her life but always at a distance. . The distance between her and the woman symbolizes her not yet being able to discover who she really is. Roger Ap Gwilliam, then? Well, in his nightmare he represents the greatest threat in the world simply because his unconscious remembers the conversation he just had with the Doctor. It's as if Ruby has sleep paralysis, which she manages to overcome when, as an old woman, she tells young Ruby not to break the circle. Kate, then? Well, in my opinion in recent months the Doctor will have talked to her about Kate or in any case he may already know her face because the Unit is no longer hiding. It's the closest connection to the Doctor she can subconsciously think of. Susan Twist? She has already seen her during the Christmas episode, that's why she subconsciously remembers having seen the same face during the last episode too and that's why she asks her if they've already met. Why are there things that don't have an explanation? As with all nightmares, things happen with no logical explanation. It's all a stream of consciousness that materializes after breaking the circle. Ruby, in the end, says she has been to Wales 3 times. He says it because he unconsciously remembers what he experienced, like when we have a nightmare or have a sense of deja-vu.
@roborob42965 ай бұрын
The worst part about this episode to me is 5 quid for a class of soda and we dont even see her drink it?!
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Cutting her losses... awfully unhealthy drink.
@kivimik4 ай бұрын
Probably a pint of bitter there is 4.
@bobm43784 ай бұрын
@roborob4296 : you did not see her, but she did, you did not see her go to her room and sleep, but she did, she is shown eating breakfast, and then lunch/ dinner... you did not see her get a train ticket, but she did...
@dylanshadowstar97795 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the tone of the episode! It's just a ride.
@ob41615 ай бұрын
This episode was amazing in many ways and definitely one of RTD’s best, but it felt little like a re-tread of “Turn Left” (the Doctor is gone, the companion is stuck is an alternate timeline, there’s a scary person or thing following the companion with a weird perception filter, and the companion goes back in time to influence her past self to stop thing from happening). To be sure, the episode had lots of unique ideas and other things in it.
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Father's Day did the Doctor disappearing from the timeline long before Turn Left.
@zvimur5 ай бұрын
When the Doctor says "Sorry", run for the hills. If he says it twice... don't bother to run 😊
@tienshinhan81895 ай бұрын
The people in the bar have been made fun of so much, whenever someone mentions witchcraft now they play along lol
@HuntingViolets4 ай бұрын
That wasn't playing along.
@ninjabluefyre38154 ай бұрын
It was very American Werewolf just subverted.
@wpn_private-lo9jb5 ай бұрын
that was one of the best Episodes of DW ever! Change my mind!
@AmyWarriorPrincess5 ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, Heaven Sent was the best episode of new who
@HellfireComms5 ай бұрын
@@AmyWarriorPrincess Heaven Sent is in the top 5 at the very least. It's just that good.
@Theplaysthet5 ай бұрын
I can’t it was top tier.
@charg1nmalaz0r515 ай бұрын
Turn left did it better, with this one there is nothing that actually happens to break the loop. Nothing ruby does that lets her communicate with her younger self on this version of the loop. She just goes through the motions of what turns her into the old woman on the hill and somehow magically this time she sees her and can hear her. It was a dumb ending.
@mrbrightside7195 ай бұрын
It might have worked if Ruby remembered at the end. Otherwise it’s completely pointless. Roger Ap Gwilliam is still a problem in this timeline unless you say that the faerie circle stops him somehow, 20-odd years before he becomes prime minister, which makes no sense. Great work by Millie Gibson, but story doesn’t work.
@MrStephenLodge5 ай бұрын
This is the Warriors Gate of the season, I reckon those that enjoyed that loved this and those that hated that would have the same feelings on this, I loved them and your reactions to them.
@AxelaxiB5 ай бұрын
Does anyone else notice that Susan Twists hiker character tells Ruby you shoukd BOTH get inside.
@CJFS00s5 ай бұрын
( 0:26 ) No opening credits! 😱
@simchar42635 ай бұрын
A bit of Donnie Darko, a bit of Bent Neck Lady from Haunting of Hill House, a bit of It Follows, all packaged in a nice one hour episode, i loved it.
@AxelaxiB5 ай бұрын
The haunting of hill house is the best explanation of this episode I thought of that at the very beginning so I spoiled the episode for myself. No one would follow someone forever unless it's themselves or someone who wants to do them harm.
@MFSeaMen5 ай бұрын
I also was thinking Donnie Darko! That and The Inner Light episode of TNG
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
A bit of 2001: A Space Osyssey and 2010: Odyssey Two, a bit of Sapphire and Steel, a bit of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, a lot of Father's Day and Parting of the Ways, and a gigantic helping of Inside No 9's finest story "The Twelve Days of Christine".
@SunniestAutumn4 ай бұрын
My favorite parts were when Russel tore out my heart and when Millie started beating it with a hammer.
@azizuladnan29575 ай бұрын
I don't get this episode... I'm confuse, and I don't know what I feel about it... Maybe cause it's involve folklore that I'm not familiar with But seeing that this is Millie's first performance in Doctor Who, that's just incredible by itself. Overall, I'm just proud that I pick up "I've been here twice" being changed at the end of the episode, haha
@philyjfry5 ай бұрын
Someone posted here, it's the second top comment. Go read it, I felt the same way as you but reading that comment made this a beautiful episode
@azizuladnan29575 ай бұрын
@@philyjfryI have read it, and it changes my perspective~ thanks for telling me! :D
@GigiC44 ай бұрын
Did you notice that the people who talk to the lady only run away after they turn back and look at Ruby and only then they run away. What is it they see when they look back at Ruby that scare them so much?
@MeekyT235 ай бұрын
I assume there will be another episode to fill in the questions left by this episode but on edge throughout watching this one!
@zvimur5 ай бұрын
Don't count on it. Remember The Doctor's Daughter?
@tunderdiamant86515 ай бұрын
I hope not. The fact we don't have answers to all the questions is literally the point of the episode We know nothing more than Ruby herself knows because there's no reasons for us to know.
@XanderHarris10235 ай бұрын
@@tunderdiamant8651 Some things almost have to be. The question of her birth mother has been in every episode this season, the blurring of the time lines has to be significant to the power of Ruby Sunday. The fact that we are getting an episode titled "The legend of Ruby Sunday" means we are definitely getting some answers even if we don't get all of them.
@gregx50965 ай бұрын
We never did find out exactly what was happening in Midnight...
@tunderdiamant86514 ай бұрын
@@XanderHarris1023 yeah i was talking exclusively about this épisode Of course there are going to bé answers to ruby mystère its literally thé point of thé season
@markcolgan32625 ай бұрын
Just had a thought what if the susan twist character has manipulated ruby's ghost so that any one who meets it will avoid her/helping her and leave her on her own and vulnerable - her running away was just for show
@frankshailes32054 ай бұрын
Susan who?
@markcolgan32624 ай бұрын
@@frankshailes3205 Susan twist the actress playing this recurring woman or women
@jankreft67535 ай бұрын
I feel like it has to do with Ruby's powers. She can manifest stuff depending on her mood and state if mind, and as Kate said sometimes we see something and make up the rules around it.
@ImpossibleCaseEdits4 ай бұрын
I loved this episode! What a stellar performance from Millie Gibson.
@oliverturner73654 ай бұрын
It's really interesting watching Americans react to the pub scene. As a guilty Englishman who lived and studied in Wales for a significant amount of time and am here writing this comment, that scene hit different. In certain local pubs, you are not welcome, simply because you are English. You are the oppressor and there is blood on your hands. I thought this was a little unfair, until I spoke to my Welsh and Scottish friends, and you realise just how horrifically we've behaved historically and continue to in different ways today. Look up the Welsh Knot, Owain Glyndwr, Capel Celyn, even the English/Welsh response to COVID. It might seem rude in the moment, but can you blame them? The pub is by far my favourite bit of this episode. I wish we'd seen more of it. Some really interesting social commentary and great characters.
@stevetheduck14255 ай бұрын
Doctor Who Ecclestone once mentioned a Charles Dickens horror / ghost story called 'The Signal-man' to Charles Dickens and mentioned how it scared him ( worth reading, or watching the BBC TV adaptation ). Now we see why. The ghost is not of the past, but of the future, and it's you.
@Cooper_Vision5 ай бұрын
You know when Sesska doesn't say a word you've got a gripping episode. I thought this was outstanding, creepy and it gives me John Carpenter vibes.
@abbyblahblah71444 ай бұрын
I can see why some people don’t really enjoy this episode, but personally I enjoyed it! I kinda love the mystery and horror of it
@ninjabluefyre38154 ай бұрын
I love that they make Ruby 40 by just giving her glasses. It feels very like a stageplay in that sense, plus I think she looks cute.
@movieatrssmaker4 ай бұрын
so my understanding so far of this is that ruby has power and is related to the pantheon in some way, this episode reads as the manifestation of rubys inner fears of being abandoned becoming manifest in the world. i think the woman's words are making people belive outwardly what she thinks inwardly about her self. the key to how it all works is what Kate has to say about it in seeing something then inventing the rules to go with it, then ruby starts following her own rules. by the end old ruby understands she is the one in power, also it all happened because at the start ruby says she's been to whales twice and then at the end she says three times. so if my read is right, both realities happened.
@sallyatticum4 ай бұрын
Kate said it: "We see something inexplicable and invent the rules to make it work:"
@arthurdeane42684 ай бұрын
I am enjoying this season a lot. In fact from Power of them Doctor on I have been entertained. As much as I wasnt a fan of Jodiez era, im loving this era a lot. Glad you liked this episode as well.
@mauriceedwards95884 ай бұрын
It was so clever of Ruby using the woman to get rid of the Mad Jack Prime Minister who was the woman a future Ruby or someone else I think we might find out eventually.
@richardd99384 ай бұрын
The Watcher! So she was Ruby all the time!! Really interesting similarity as you've just recently watched Logopolis
@TheMoonRover5 ай бұрын
Odd coincidence that this episode features a general election, and was released in the same week one was announced.
@danniemadsen19965 ай бұрын
The reason Ncuti isn’t much in this episode is because filming for Sex Education kept being drawn out. This episode was the first thing they filmed.
@MrEtherlord4 ай бұрын
She says "be kind to each other". That's why they freak out.
@adamcarlson21924 ай бұрын
The most dangerous Prime Minister in history, Doctor? Are we just forgetting about Harold Saxon!?
@josemacias80104 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the episode very much even though the very thing that occurred in this episode is highly left to speculation makes it that much better. PS: would be happy if the writers do indeed give us all the Tea on what transcribed in “73 yards” 😊
@JustB3NJI4 ай бұрын
Yes those people in the Pub were not repping Wales very well aha