Doctor Who 1x5 "Dot and Bubble" - Reaction & Review

[@NoobishEli]

I gave it a rewatch and a lot of the dialogue from the girl had me like "how did I miss that" lol

[@Thomity]

I realised that too while editing this together. Classic!

[@OldManFerdiad]

"I thought you just looked the same". On a rewatch (even via a reaction) it is a big signpost in retrospect. I guess one of the points is that the less you experience racism, the less you notice it.

[@N3RDYG0GGLES]

Her going “I know this is wrong” the second the Doctor connected with the rest of her friends. Holy shit

[@OneGaurdian]

@@OldManFerdiad Maybe too many of us having watched moments like in Rush Hour 2 often enough to always see a line like that as just a funny.

[@jameshughes7946]

The ending gives me big Midnight feelings because once again The Doctor faces human ignorance and just can't find a way to overcome it. Powerless to stop them from destroying themselves.

[@Thomity]

Great parallel!

[@ennayanne]

true but midnight focuses more on the tenth doctor's tendency to not shut up and how it can go really bad for him if there isn't a companion there to make him seem more normal

[@jameshughes7946]

@@ennayanne and this time not even a companion could help the situation

[@seamusburke639]

Ruby was raised by a black mother! She was probably like "Fuck those people, I don't want to save them anymore."@@jameshughes7946

[@Logicalleaping]

Also her freak out when Linny learned she was next had the exact same dialogue Sylvia had in Midnight; "Its coming for me! Its coming for me!"

[@fee-f1-foe-fum]

As a Black guy myself, it was abundantly apparent that something was off from the beginning of the episode. This is an unfortunate reality that I’ve experienced innumerous times in white dominated spaces in the States. The only thing I wish we had is more lines from Ncuti after that stunning performance at the end. The ending felt too abrupt to me.

[@Iamtheultra-nerd]

I know what I say doesnt change or mean anything as I'm a white man who can't relate to what you must go through in your everyday life. But I am so sorry you have to go through this stuff

[@JackBarrugon]

More Ncuti generally would be a good thing, there've been two Doctor-lite episodes already in an 8 episode season. But he had shooting conflicts and they won't happen going forward, which is great, as he's really growing in the role. I though Lindy's initial dismissal of the Doctor was racist, then started thinking later that she was just an unpleasant rich kid who didn't like anyone she didn't know. They did a good job of concealing the racism within Finetime's general snottiness until the end there. But yes, it's all in there, and it all comes out in the rewatch.

[@LinguaPhiliax]

I'm white and I had heard a leak about the ending in a comment section somewhere, so I was already primed to look for racism right from the start. It makes me wonder what would have happened if I didn't know going in; would I have missed all those microagressions or picked up on them?

[@the_openers_of_eyes8]

im white and i cant possibly understand what you guys go through, but I see we are all human, the fact other people say otherwise is ignorant and stupid. I hope this doesn't sound like virtue signaling or white knighting, because i truly believe this.

[@fee-f1-foe-fum]

@EditoroftheT-force @the_openers_of_eyes8 Thank you both for your kind words. It made my day ❤

[@Megaytron]

My summary of this episode: You can lead a bigot to water, but you can't make em think.

[@ColorOfSakura]

The wild laugh Fifteen makes near the end when he finally realizes what's going on is so tragic. The Doctor really coming to the realization that in this regeneration - his skin color can and WILL get in the way of being able to save people sometimes.

[@airs1234]

I watched this at midnight and couldn’t sleep for ages. I was so mad and wanted to see the boat get eaten at the end. The slugs were not the monsters after all.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Bingo

[@cloudcutter81]

Yeah by the end of the episode I found the slugs cute and cuddly compared to Lindy

[@Addy0302]

The way my jaw dropped at Ricky's death scene

[@leeohdun]

WOW. even just watching this reaction, the music in the ending is just fantastic. my favourite use of music so far this era for sure

[@phlippy]

Totally agree! They reused a motif from the Rings of Akhaten when the boat is sailing away which is just fascinating, it works so well

[@Cayles764]

Yes, congrats on being the first reactor I've seen realise that the Finetimers are racist in real time. It's been so frustrating seeing all the media illiteracy. Thank you.

[@Cayles764]

Definitely disagree that RTD is beating us over the head with it because a lot of people think the Finetimers are just cliquey.

[@qyntifex]

@@Cayles764i agree! rtd snuck the racism in there really well and it only comes out at the end and they play with it. rewatching, however, a lot of the comments are clearly racist with more context.

[@cajunking5987]

Well it’s hard to see that when they literally say nothing about race

[@Cayles764]

@@cajunking5987 I feel like the same people would criticise Chris Chibnall era episodes for beating us over the head with exposition. This episode for me hit the right balance of showing instead of telling us the sort of society Finetime is.

[@cajunking5987]

@@Cayles764 I’m just saying it would probably be clearer if only one word in the last minute of the episode hinted at a racial issue (the word being voodoo, which btw I didn’t know was “black” my whole life, I associated it with the region I live in, Southern Louisiana, USA)

[@VillainousHokage]

I can't wait to see what all the haters going say about this episode. Most likely they will call it "woke." Like everything else they disliked.

[@kadegetslaid634]

Honestly ive blocked all those grifters

[@namle198818]

​​@@kadegetslaid634i hope there is no misunderstanding. I am not calling it "woke." Please dont block me. Both last week and this week episode left me more confused. Still processing this and last episode.

[@ryandunphy60]

They’re not worth the time. I really liked the episode and that twist at the end genuinely shocked me. Ncuti gave a brilliant performance as always 🔥🔥🔥

[@kadegetslaid634]

@namle198818 hey it's fine to be confused and process the episodes, that's completely valid, you don't have to 100 percent love it, its just the people who just hate on somthing without anything to back it up and disguise their bigotry with being "anti woke", have an amazing day man you seem awesome

[@jeckjeck3119]

This episode is literally calling them out, so of course they won't like it.

[@hallyhop]

Totally felt you with all the “wow”s 😂 I felt so sick and angry at the end I had to shake it off and yell a bit

[@janechoy2073]

All the signs are there that foreshadow the racism twist: 1. Lindy blocking Doc right from the start 2. Lindy only speaking to Ruby even when the Doc is in the same chat 3. being genuinely shocked that Ruby and Doc are in the same room 4. calling Doc stupid a few times (but ok, i realize the word stupid is part of daily speech) 5. saying that all people like Doc look the same (the stereotype "all black people look the same") 6. calling tardis a voodoo 7. Linday saying that it's the Doctor's duty to save her 8. everyone in the bubble word is white, blonde and blue eyes

[@767wattsy]

The racism twist isn't tacked on. It's flagged so many times, but a lot of us didn't initially see it because we had our white privilege blinkers on. Some examples: * The first time the Doctor appears in her bubble Lindy looks almost disgusted, and blocks him, but when Ruby appears she listens to her, even though she's a stranger, because Ruby is blonde and white. * There are no people of colour anywhere in the episode other than the Doctor. * Everyone is white and blue eyed and mostly blonde, with Goth Paul being I think the only non-blonde: classic Aryan stereotype. * Lindy takes a while to realise the Doctor is the same man she blocked earlier, because to her, black people apparently all look the same. * She also talks about him being duly punished for his temerity in speaking to her and her friends and says she'll look forward to that. * When she introduces the Doctor to her friends she also says "He's not as stupid as he looks". * When Ricky September and Lindy are walking together after the slug encounter, Ricky says "During the Great Abrogation, this whole city was sealed off." Abrogation is the act of canceling, nullifying, or repealing something - probably racial equality and anti-racism laws, in this instance. The whole episode is full of racist microaggressions directed towards the Doctor, but on first viewing, most white folk didn't see them until the open racism of that powerful final scene. Up until that point I read the episode as a class critique and a satire of social media dependency.

[@BrysonSirbaugh]

This is really good analysis, and you're right, the first time I watched it I didn't pick up on all of that. I thought she said he looked stupid because the doctor is often silly, but the Doctor had been nothing but serious the whole episode. Honestly this whole season for some reason has taken me either a second watch or taking a step back to really appreciate it for what it is. Like how the Meister felt strange in a Doctor Who episode until you realize she'll probably be a big part of the pantheon reveal later. I hate that people aren't giving this a shot, or dismissing it because it's not perfect, because it's really quite good when taken as a whole, and gets better with each episode. I hope future seasons have more episodes. The main thing holding it back is that we don't get 16+ episodes to develope the relationship between Ruby and the Doctor, and we don't have time to give the Doctor their own episode, for example. But I'm starting to have faith this season will actually be really good when we can see the whole picture.

[@HuntingViolets]

There are some redheads, including the girl who called the TARDIS "voodoo" at the end.

[@BrysonSirbaugh]

@@HuntingViolets I mean red and blonde hair are generally exclusive to whites.

[@marshsundeen]

True ​Redheads are even more rare than blondes. It all could be found in Aryan culture.

[@paulholloway7666]

Some of that is right but there is a mixture of blond(e) and red and dark haired white people. Only one person wears glasses and that looks like it's a fashion statement. These people know what black people look like but there aren't any black people. I think the great abrogation was more than just the revoking of anti-racism laws but planet wide ethnic cleansing. I think this goes much deeper than racism - perhaps even deeper than white supremacy. This is how I would imagine the near future would look if the Nazis had won WWII. However, I don't think this is a human colony - for one thing they don't need to pee in three days and they bleed green blood. I think these events are taking place in the very distant past (and another universe) and these people are the common ancestors of the Thals and the Kaleds and Finetime is on the planet Skaro. I think the Doctor has once again assisted in the creation of the Daleks.

[@garabaterodiaz5288]

LOL loved this episode. I agree with mostly everything you said. It's not perfect, but that twist in the end made it all worth it. The acting was top notch again by Ncuti. My racist alarm bells were going off early in the episode but I was like "surely i'm mistaken, these are just horribly privileged people"... nope.

[@qyntifex]

i agree!! loved this episode and all the racism tucked in there really shocked me after rewatching and getting it all. clever writing and great execution :)

[@SS_2022]

@@qyntifex it also add the ageism and classism. they are also all privileged people. i thought its just cliche story but the ending let us see it again.

[@qyntifex]

@@SS_2022 totally! so many layers wrapped in there, really great commentary

[@kadegetslaid634]

Same, so many of the comments made me go 🤨 and i was confused why all of them were white aswell LMAO

[@ruairih100]

Honestly i think this and 73 yards have been the strongest eps this season , last ep i was sold on ruby and the doctor at the end of this one really sold me, Ncuti sold it

[@Rognik]

They were good episodes, but I think 73 Yards needed a little more explanation, and this episode could've used a slightly more obvious punchline at the end. The subtlety is good, but this is one place where being more straightforward in the end might've helped.

[@teowachowski1143]

​@@Rognik it was pretty fucking obvious. They dont need to say "its because you're black btw!" for it to be obvious

[@teowachowski1143]

​@@Rognikpart of the beauty of 73 yards IS the lack of clear explanation. Its not just a random ghost story, and its not about the mechanics

[@Rognik]

@@teowachowski1143 As I said, I don't need all the answers, but the fact that we see it join Ruby at the end raises questions that demand answers. Just slightly more details would make it better

[@inkpenavengerYT]

It was VERY connected to the rest of the episode. -Lindy immediately blocks the Doctor -Lindy asks if the slugs have to do with the Doctor -Lindy didn't realize it was the same person when the Doctor came back on -Lindy saying "I hate you I hate you" and later "I was right to hate you" to the Doctor -Lindy calls the Doctor and Ruby criminals after discovering they're in a room together -Lindy tells her friends the Doctor isn't "as dumb as he looks" -there isn't a SINGLE non-white person on the planet besides the Doctor And there's even more. It was ALL OVER the episode.

[@steve8510]

The twist at the end is a twisted end.

[@ArthurChappell]

Ncuti was making the series at the same time as his long running TV series Sex Education, so the Doctor Lite episodes were done with his role reduced to account for his periods of unavailability. They work round it pretty well.

[@kbg12ila]

I think this episode becomes much better on rewatch. I think when you know the ending all the beats throughout the episode start to make more sense. Even things like the AI turning against the people after listening to them... Its pretty funny haha. I enjoy it more now. 8/10

[@liamfarranree4433]

I loved the forshadowing when Lindy is shocked when she realizes Ruby and the Doctor are together in the same room and I loved the logic of a society based on the principle of removing any people the privileged class find unlikeable suffering the same fate when the A.I. they made to be in charge of everything developed the same attitude towards them.

[@robertmarlow255]

Who meets Black Mirror; a BIG V sign to all the haters out there whether they hate blacks, gays or the BBC! Episodes getting stronger and stronger!

[@AnonymOus-dp3jj]

meets cliche meets phantasm, meets poor writting!

[@CritterSauce621]

I felt so dumb watching through the episode. At first I thought 'wait are they all white?'. But then I could swear I'd at least seen someone mixed race? That's uncomfortable. And I'm not even white. Became more apparent as time went on but when I got it I kicked myself for not going with my initial instinct. Definitely tied for my favorite this season with last week!

[@Nintexstation]

I feel particularly with this season that a lot of people get really annoyed if it isn’t an amazing episode. In past series it seemed that everyone was a lot more up for the ride. But Doctor Who has always had pretty varied episodes in each series. And I totally agree that possibly more than any other, this season’s episodes are VERY memorable hahaha

[@Logicalleaping]

I think its the 12 episodes to 8. 4 less episodes to get connected with the Doctor and Companion is a lot. I myself haven't been sold on Ncuti as the Doctor yet not because hes a bad actor or anything but simply because he hasn't had a monster of the week episode that he wins against and doesn't cry. Either way I'm enjoying this season quite a bit. Been awhile since I actually sit down with the family to watch Doctor who (dropped during Chibnalls run which is a shame since I've watched since William Hartnell (1996-2006 rerun in Australia))

[@Nintexstation]

@@Logicalleaping You bring up a good point! I think also with the marketing, we were told pretty much what each episode’s vibe would be like, so there isn’t as much surprise as usual. But yes, I feel like Ncuti hasn’t had as many ‘Doctor Moments’ that aren’t trauma moments. I think it’s as you said, as there’s less episodes the scales are less balanced

[@AshleyG24601fan]

I completely missed the racism, I feel embarrassed. I thought it was a critique of people who live in a bubble and hate anything outside it. But in the end, the inhabitants will just die, so it was all a waste of time for the doctor and Ruby. Unless the inhabitants get lucky, but...yeah, no. They're too incompetent. Also, this episode reminded me of that Capaldi episode where Clara acted like the Doctor and good people died, but the mean old man who didn't appreciate anything lived. Similar message: Sometimes bad people live and good people die, no matter how hard you try. Only this time it was due to their own ignorance. The ending truly makes the episode.

[@anniesharp4871]

It only clicked for me when Lindy accused the doctor of voodoo. Don't be embarrassed. It's clearly presented in a subterranean way to increase shock factor when the audience realise. Also, I think your interpretation is correct; it's just even more than that -- a criticism of racism and elitism in many algorithms: the stupidity of living in your own online bubble/echo chamber.

[@kadegetslaid634]

Dont worry, it just means youre not exposed to much racism 😭🙏

[@anniesharp4871]

@@kadegetslaid634 I think that may be the point too. To show white viewers who are not racist that it is difficult to spot with white privilege.

[@kadegetslaid634]

@anniesharp4871 most likely tbh, us white people are insanely sheltered about racism alot of the time, I'm curious about POCs take on this episode

[@anniesharp4871]

@@kadegetslaid634 exactly! Me too.

[@richardcrafton1805]

I love how villain of the episode is somehow a misdirect for the main conflict. The title, the progression of the plot. While watching something frlt a little off, like i was missing something the whole time. Then this closing scene came in and hit me like a freight train. The racism was there the while time i just didnt see it.

[@TLH1999]

That ending was jaw dropping on the first watch, like damn

[@rogvortex58]

Here’s the thing, though. In regards to the Doctor light episodes. Jodie Whitaker didn’t have them. And this season there are only eight episodes. They only did this and last week’s one because Ncuti Gatwa was still filming Sex Education.

[@finncullen]

Notice the look the Doctor gives the sign on the TARDIS door as he goes to enter it? It used to be white with black lettering, now it's black with white. I don't know if that was intentional on RTD's part (he's not normally the king of subtlety) but it seemed to me the Doctor was only just realising.

[@leijen208]

Good catch. I need to rewatch this for all the subtleties

[@Giggirl]

To think this ending was his first ever scene 😳❤️

[@whuskeywolf0032]

5:56 I completely agree with you there!

[@DWaDDLJ]

Its not about social media being bad... its about wyt privileged people living in their literal segregated bubble

[@gunnhildk6299]

I think it is both.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@gunnhildk6299 Yes, but the social media functions as something of a red herring. The racist microaggressions and sometimes macroaggressions against the Doctor are pretty steady throughout the episode.

[@gunnhildk6299]

@@HuntingViolets Yes, I agree. It was a lot to think abut after this episode. It was really good. And it is about racism hidden in plain sight until it is not hidden at all at the end. At least that is what I saw. There are so many layers to this story. It really hit me

[@cfor8129]

It gains on a rewatch! Once you know shes racist you can see it was there all the time.

[@767wattsy]

So many red flags all the way through - right from Lindy's first response to the Doctor in her bubble, when she looks at him with shock and disgust.

[@the_openers_of_eyes8]

im white and i cant possibly understand what humans of different types go through, but I see we are all human, the fact other people say otherwise is ignorant and stupid. I hope this doesn't sound like virtue signaling or white knighting, because i truly believe this.

[@kaihinataplays1992]

I just thought of something, is something trying to actually turn the Doctor against humanity? First we had abandoning babies, then we had blind faith, now this, and that look of pure disappointment, its like something is pulling them along to see the worst of the worst of humanity.

[@marshsundeen]

I wonder if Susan Twist's ultimate character is part of that.

[@qyntifex]

i love this episode! such a poignant commentary on racism and social media. thanks for posting your reaction/review!!

[@fayesouthall6604]

Absolutely.

[@ennayanne]

21:56 it's a callback to the rings of akhaten which is neat

[@AnatolSommer]

Thank you!! So I'm not going crazy and imagining things...

[@AncientAesthetic]

yeah the ending feels it's tagged on... as a person of color though, that's kind of the experience. when it comes out, it seems to come out of nowhere even though everything has been nice enough.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Rewatch and there are clues all the way around she was much more kind to Ruby until she realised Ruby was with the doctor. She said it was the doctors job to save them and calling the Tardis ‘voodoo’

[@LordofFullmetal]

@@fayesouthall6604 She also says he's going to be punished later for daring to speak to her.

[@BritGirlJay]

One of my fave episodes - Callie who plays Lindy was amazing - the subtleties of the racism are actually peppered throughout the episode if you look (mistaking the Doctor for different people for example). Also I think this was NCuti's first shot episode (the doctor light ones were because he had shooting to do for Sex Education) which is incredible.

[@oathy03]

From the start she was giving the Doctor terrible comments even down to the "you all look the same" It was her revulsion of them being in the same room the alarm went when she's been in a room with others what's the difference? they were all white not one black person. Ricky was clearly cool and because he was educated when talking with the Doctor not backhanded comments just grateful he would have made a good companion They have no redeeming qualities at all the DOTS saw this and decided to take them out the worst possible way, They could have just killed them all like Ricky. * The reason for the Doctor light two episodes it clashed with filming Sex ED it seems insane they went ahead with production when this clash was known about and considering it was delayed already. The promotion of this episode was terrible i can see why it did badly ratings wise they needed a reaction shot of Ricky and the Doctor. Other wise people would assume its an episode all of airheads talking on screens with slugs. the final scene was the 1st day of filming hence the costume he's wearing so that entire section was the very first thing he filmed as the Doctor.

[@HuntingViolets]

I'm not sure Ricky is quite as great as everyone is painting him. But, yes, it's there all through the episode.

[@Ronariverah]

It's fine to be Black Mirror light as Children don't/can't watch Black Mirror

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

The first time I watched it I didn't get the racism element at all. Like, not at all. And maybe that shows just how fortunate I've been. The next time, Ikinda started getting it, and the third watch - now having that idea in my head, yeah, no, i absolutely see it. It maybe feels disconnected at first, but on a rewatch...

[@joebonaiuto5554]

So, is it totally impossible that Dot grabbed the slugs from the forest and genetically engeneered them into the 'monsters?'

[@HuntingViolets]

Anything's possible. We know they designed them in some way.

[@houseofsledge6891]

The episode is very much about portraying and critiquing a white supremacist society all along, its all there from the start and not really a "twist" as a result. The social media critique is fully intertwined with the critique of white supremacy as well and, as a result, is commenting not just broadly on the effects of social media but very specifically also on how social media plays a role in insulating white supremacy and contributing to normalizing it. The episode massively rewards a rewatch for those who realize the white supremacist critique later into the episode (for those who realize it from the outset, its maybe not as much of a rewatch discovery experience, I would guess). In this fashion it does a brilliant job of implicating the audience based on when and how they come to realize that the story isn't merely about commenting on social media but very specifically the intersection of social media and the fostering of hate-based infrastructure. And its meaningful, I think, to present this kind of critique while implicating the audience as much as possible because it serves to make the points being made resonate deeper with our actual world and the actual lives of viewers. When one realizes that the white supremacy was apparent from the start but that it wasn't being noticed because of personal privilege or bias or what have you, it prompts more personal questions about the experience of watching the narrative. At least that's my two cents from watching a variety of folks react to and commentate about the episode.

[@ianboswell]

On both sides of my family my Uncles and Aunts are white supremist so they chose to home school their kids in preference over sending them to a public school where they would interact with people of color. Now my cousins are all covered in swastika tattoos at 45 degree angles. They didn't get that way without the bubble. Now that they are adults I am terrified to know how they are raising their own children. This is a systemic problem that continues to pervade our country and the human species. I could see a future where those 5 unrelated people are genetically diverse enough meet up and produce enough generations of offspring to make a place like Fine Time.

[@seanwilliams4087]

I disliked her within 15 seconds and it went downhill from there.

[@HuntingViolets]

Co-sign this. She started low and had a downward arc.

[@lucia7247]

​@@HuntingVioletsactress did a great job to get us to hate lindy lmao

[@SuperWeebBros]

It's funny when you consider that the Daleks are the most racist beings in the known universe, and that is far more subtle

[@LordofFullmetal]

If you mean the daleks are "more subtle"... No they're not. The daleks could not be LESS subtle. They are literally space nazis. Perhaps you just see it as "subtle" because the daleks don't take a human shape, and that makes it easier for you to NOT put yourself in that position, whereas the Finetime people draw an uncomfortable comparison with how people in the real world act?

[@HuntingViolets]

I thought Lindy was pretty much a jerk throughout the episode. Interesting use of social media as a red herring. All the microaggressions throughout the episode were a lot, leading to the ending, so I don't see how it's "tacked on." I am surprised some reactors are not seeing this at least by the end of the episode. Although you didn't like this episode, I think you might want to give it a rewatch.

[@RanticProductions]

This isn't...season 1?

[@jamesbaxter1667]

@Cayles there is rasism and classism in the episode

[@jamesbaxter1667]

This might have been an episode when ncuti was off filming sex education

[@marshsundeen]

It was Nctui's first day of filming.

[@CosmicSpacedog]

would you probably react to doctor who unleashed? ^^

[@ugfupiojpjk2670]

this episode pissed me off and I was shipping them hard

[@vickanid1862]

It's funny how many people think this episode is racist. It's Doctor Who! He's come across a variety of races like Cybermen, Sontarans, Daleks, etc. Perhaps these aliens don't have non-white people? Doctor Who usually significantly tries to stop the threat, or at least fully understand it, but this bunch just says to jump into my TARDIS! Folks are putting a racist spin on it which may reflect their perception of the world and not the actual Doctor Who.

[@marshsundeen]

RTD himself says that is the point of the episode. There are others here who lay out every racist moment. Perhaps question why it being about race is a problem for you.

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

As a 60-year-old man, I hope you young people realize your future is fucked. Stop living your life through your phones.

[@billkerns9258]

Funny. People in the Silent Generation used to tell people in the Boomer Generation similar things - stop being hippies, stop being flower children. Disco isn't as good as real rock and roll. Get off the psychedelic drugs. As if everyone was doing that, and in fact none of this may have applied to you at all. You're still young enough not to become what you probably disliked when you were age 20-30. I seriously don't think you liked it when people would make negative assumptions and negative generalizations about your generation, which was after all deeply divided. My father is Silent Generation (I'm Gen X) and he often speaks of a divide with your generation. There's no need for it.

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

@@billkerns9258 Older generations see the way these things are going to go and can speak out on it because they've had decades of life experience and have been through several societal changes. From the perspective of an outsider, you can clearly see how things are going, growing up in today's society is all you know. People today can't relate to each other, because when they're young their taught how to text instead of having a conversation with the person next to them. I'm reminded of a line from Star Trek in the 60's " Here you stand a perfect symbol of our technical society, mechanized, electronized but not very human. You've done away with humanity, the striving of man to achieve greatness through his own resources". I see how we've become so weak because we depend on technology. We'll order food for delivery when the restaurant is 5 blocks away. It's ridiculous.

[@billkerns9258]

@@SKIP-yj3xp I'm 50, I have my own life experience and plenty of it. I'm just saying that talking down to Gen Z sounds to Gen Z like it would sound to you when the Silent Generation talked down to you. I'm well aware of the stereotypes of your teens (late 1970s, early 1980s) and as you came into young adulthood in your 20s (the early to mid 1980s). For example, it''s possible you may have hated the Yuppy stereotypes and the "Me Generation" moniker. I'm also an educator, so I have a lot of contact with Gen Z and Gen Y. The challenges of today are complex and nuanced. I encourage you to keep speaking out just not in a way that seems condescending or like you are engaging in stereotypes (Gen Z will often tune you out if you do that, thus the rift between Gen Z and Boomers and the condescending, dismissive and rude in return Gan Z phrase "OK, Boomer"). You are actually not wrong about concerns you express. Every single one of the concerns is real and legitimate. But I recommend calibrating the way they are expressed so that Gen Z feel respected as well as understood. As the saying goes "it's not what you say it's how you say it."

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

@@billkerns9258 I like the fact that you consider their feelings, when you speak to them, but you're coddling them. You're tone policing. We both know life is hard and will get harder, but if they're not prepared for life's realities they will fail. I often wonder if they have the sense to keep a written record of their phone contacts, or will they be lost if they lose their phones.

[@billkerns9258]

@@SKIP-yj3xp Let's agree to disagree. Have a great day.

[@MerryOlSoulGigglesmith]

total Kids show now (but that's the point isn't it)

[@nathanthomas5133]

If you think it’s a total kids show then you must have the mind of a 5 year old - so you should love it !😅