Doctor Who Almost Had A JK Rowling Episode...

From an episode about JK Rowling to Matt Berry becoming a Time Lord, these are the untold stories of Doctor Who's modern era (2005-2022)
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[@HarboWholmes]

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[@CashelOConnolly]

I really appreciate all your hard work. You’re easily the best Who channel on KZbin Kind regards from Dublin 🇮🇪🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷

[@gallifreychloe3297]

I think it's interesting that there are still hints towards both ideas that Boom Town replaced. Jack mentioned Pompeii in the episode prior "Gotta remember to set your alarm for volcano day." and at the end of that same episode: Rose: "Look at you, beaming away like you're Father Christmas." Doctor: "Who says I'm not, red bicycle when you were twelve?" Even Father's Day had a hint towards that storyline with the Doctor talking to baby Rose. Just interesting to see the remnants of it.

[@racheljackson4428]

nice details in the dialogue.

[@sendhelp6349]

Thank god they didnt go through with the "doctor trying to make rose into a perfect companion" thing, that would have been extremely creepy in combination with the romance angle

[@FTZPLTC]

I feel like they almost revisit the idea with Clara, but with her choosing the role so that it's not too weird.

[@plantainsame2049]

Yeah it feels like something one of the edgyr writers would pull with the seventh

[@Josh-ze6xo]

Boom Town makes sense as a title for a story about Pompei anyway.

[@mrslagowhoreusrex6300]

Train go Boom

[@CyborgCharlotte]

Maybe “Volcano Day” was too on the nose :P

[@maouliamediaofficial]

But it was already used, so they had to name it something else

[@racheljackson4428]

yeah because EVERYONE KNOWS POMPEI!

[@alaw4581]

Dodged a huge bullet with the alien names rowling would have come up with for the show

[@adrimedeiros9807]

Matt Berry as the Monk (or any Time Lord) is something that I now NEED. RTD make it happen!

[@zachh6868]

The doctor trading his life for Wilfred was definitely the play. Especially compared to the family. It's such a good scene that he'd trade his life (sort of) for one good old man.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

I’m going to be honest here, the alien creature attaching itself to an author and warping reality into one based on their creations sounds like, well, a really cool idea. I actually want them to retool that, maybe for a fictional author or even another famous one from history. Imagine if it latched onto Roald Dahl, J.R.R. Tolkien, Terry Pratchett, Dr Seuss or even HP Lovecraft

[@CyborgCharlotte]

The Doctor fighting wizards? Cool but we can do way better. The Doctor fighting full blown fantasy creatures, magic, dark gods, a world that defies all logic, the physical embodiment of death itself or even cosmic horrors beyond our comprehension? HELL YES

[@FTZPLTC]

Oh god, doing it with Lovecraft could be... questionable. Let's just say that that guy had a lot of his mind besides Cthulhu.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

@@FTZPLTC Fair point, maybe a modern day fictional cosmic horror author then? Look I just want Doctor Who to do a cosmic horror story, ok? 😅

[@FTZPLTC]

I could go for the Doctor teaming up with Death against the Auditors...

[@carolinemcgovern4488]

Same. I desperently want them to retool that idea with another athour because it still sounds wicked cool.

[@xBoringPerfectionx]

If you dont like what Harbo is saying, dont watch his videos. Hes never pretended that hes anything but a trans ally so dont be so shocked when he takes issue with a woman seeking to do the community harm.

[@FTZPLTC]

Choosing to believe they're all Graham Linehan's sockpuppet accounts.

[@generalj216]

Well I for one think he’s full of crap on this issue anyway but I’m not seething about it. If that’s how he feels so be it.

[@xBoringPerfectionx]

@General J I don't understand how someone can be a fan of doctor who and be anti trans. Especially now RTD is coming back who has publicly spoken out against anti trans rhetoric.

[@generalj216]

@@xBoringPerfectionx I mean it’s not rocket science. They’re there for the story and the characters not the opinions of the writers 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@xBoringPerfectionx]

@@generalj216 the stories are inextricably linked to social justice - it's always been about that.

[@CineScarborough]

The Stephen Fry script must be revived. Now they have the Disney money, they can offer him a huge pay deal if need be to obtain his services for RTD2. I honestly believe that and the long-mooted Peter Jackson episode should be given top priority.

[@skinner219]

Since RTD has returned as showrunner and is getting so much budget from Disney, I wonder if he’ll finally bring some of these original and alternate concepts to life.

[@calumgardner6936]

My thoughts exactly, in fact if I was him in the position he is now that’s probably one of the very first I’d look at doing

[@BlueSparxLPs]

The budget increase was another bit of misinformation spread around by journalists. RTD dispelled the claims that the show would be getting a significant budget increase with Disney.

[@arubinojr5670]

@@BlueSparxLPs We've already seen like three alternate outfits for one season. Disney is definitely slipping them something under the table, and probably aren't exactly breaking the bank on it.

[@BlueSparxLPs]

@@arubinojr5670 That's not even unique, though? Capaldi's Doctor had so many costume changes from story to story, he was rarely seen in his official base looks. A few alternate costumes is not any evidence of a bigger budget.

[@1412JD]

​@@BlueSparxLPs he dispelled the rumour of a 3x budget increase He still clarified the budget was indeed increased just not that much

[@mrslagowhoreusrex6300]

Glad Pompeii was scrapped for later since Donna is peak Companion & we also got Capaldi who is best Doctor

[@Alovon]

Honestly wonder if some Moffatt writers and even Cornell could return in Davies' 2nd run as showrunner. Could definitely see a story by Cornell delving into the psychological impact that the whole back half of 13's run and whatever circumstances forced him back into 10's form as 14 being a weight on the Gatwa Doctor. (Ditto Gallifrey being in a bit of a paradox dead state...again). Just feel a story channeling that trauma and emotion that 13 shrugged/repressed could do some work on addressing the problems with Chibnal's run and working on clearing the board for RTD to make the DW Universe fit again. Also could sort of bring a callback to Day of The Doctor. 10: The one with regrets 11: The one who forgets 13: The one who Represses? Pretty much retroactively give 13 more character to make the comparisons between 13 and Gatwa more palpable beyond "Actually has a consistent character"

[@mayotango1317]

Meh, Cornell will write the return of the Meddling Monk.

[@legendg219]

RTD will defo try and make sense of Chibnall's run and maybe some of Moffats crazy storylines as well. He'll make them work in his new era because he's faithful and respectable to the show and its history. I think Moffat is more or less confirmed to be writing in the new era and maybe Chibnall too but cant confirm that.

[@plantainsame2049]

I mean, if we're Gonna bring up the timeless child why don't we just go Full unnatural history and bring up the other and dr who Go all out with the doctor's paradoxical time lying

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@legendg219Oh so he's going to make it an inconsistent mess Of wibbly wobbliness. The first doctor was human point blank I think at this point, we should just fully embrace the unnatural history and the doctor being a living paradox of a person

[@ZemplinTemplar]

Matt Berry as a new TV incarnation of the Meddling Monk would be a riot. :-))) And imagine him briefly running into Missy and figuring out it's the Master (someone even the Monk likely fears). The vampire ideas are rather lame, though. The land of fiction return would have been interesting. I think I've read before about the "Lucy Sparrow" prototype for Amy and the story originally involving a longer continuing Tenth Doctor, before things changed for good and series 5 could focus on a new Doctor and new storyline.

[@VocaLABProductions]

Thanks for giving us a mention in this video. We’re HUGE followers (and fans) of your work!

[@NileSWPhotography]

I’ve always loved boom town, there’s always been something special about it to me. I love the conversation between the doctor and Margaret And I can’t believe you don’t like tooth and claw!! I love it haha

[@orangepizzaparty688]

As a trans person, your continued open support and acceptance of trans people has meant so much to me, and has made this channel feel like a safe space for me, given how much transphobia there is on youtube. It honestly makes me feel better about myself. On another note, I think it's for the best that love and war wasn't adapted for the modern era. I love 7 and Ace's dynamic, and I think it fits the story so much better. Edit: if you don't agree with me, that's fine. Your personal beliefs don't affect me. But if Harbo's content and views bother you, you don't have to watch, or can choose to ignore it. Either way, doesn't affect me.

[@TheWolfXCIX]

Continuously deriding people who acknowledge the realities of biological sex is not "providing a safe space", it's bigoted.

[@wc8246]

@@TheWolfXCIX Your refusal to acknowledge the differences between sex and gender is all on you, it wont make you 'win' anything, and will literally only result in you being confused and not understanding what people are talking about.

[@beeeeeesbury]

​@WOLF why do you care?

[@arubinojr5670]

@@TheWolfXCIX Moth to a flame, except if the moth could only repeat pre-programmed phrases given by its handlers.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@TheWolfXCIX "acknowledge the realities of biological sex" Yeah, that's not what Rowling does.

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

While I don’t appreciate the low digs at Gatiss, The Suicide Exhibition is such a brilliant concept to have not have been made, honestly one of my most wanted pieces of Who… I know Nick Briggs has expressed interest in trying to adapt them to audio, so maybe not all is lost.

[@DesktopProductionsLite]

I’m glad someone else said this. I’m actually a big fan of Gatiss’s episodes myself, I love his style of Doctor Who story - but, regardless, it feels quite mean spirited whenever he points out his dislike for the guy.

[@milesmemory]

God do I wish I was in the universe where that Matt Berry monk story happened

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Imagine where we’d all be if a few more Chibnall-Era episodes had landed on this list instead of our TVs.

[@alternatethirteenth5594]

Matt Berry Monk is still my most wanted, like I need it so badly (though Queenie probably wants it more...) and were it not for Barrowman being an idiot (and his relationship with Eccleston anyway), The Void could have ended up being done... Perhaps it'll be retooled one day or the Perfect Companion one done as an Unbound...

[@lucypreece7581]

I have also looked into some of the potential unmade stories that had been shelved for Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures and I really hope in his 2.0 era that Davies potentially picks up and adapts one of these. There was one that was bounced between both Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures that was intended to essentially be a single hander story featuring one character. It had 2 working titles. One called Checkout and the other called Supermarket Sweep. It would feature either Ianto Jones or Luke Smith having to battle an alien on their own in a supermarket with 0 support from anyone else and having to single handedly defeat this creature and stop whatever the threat was going to be only using the tools and resources available in the supermarket. It was meant to evoke the vibe of Die Hard and I think it is a really interesting concept and I really hope that Davies picks this back up again and adapts it for the main show and has it be a single hander episode for either the companion or a guest star and have the Doctor maybe show up in like the last 5 minutes not realising the threat has already been neutralised by someone else. Playing into the Doctor often being late or the TARDIS making the Doctor end up in the wrong place. Also I kind of really want a way for Luke Smith to be in the main show since he was always a brilliant character and I think he would have an interesting dynamic with the Doctor so it would be nice to have Luke come back for like 1 or 2 episodes in a guest role with maybe his reintroduction being the supermarket story. It's just an idea but I just really like the concept of it.

[@mrgreeny906]

I did hear that War of the Sontarans and Village of the Angels were 2 planned stories for Series 13 anyway. Just rewrote and changed in parts to connect with the Flux storyline

[@dilltaskermusic1407]

Okay. I need Matt Berry as The Monk in my life now.

[@elliottnoad1270]

With the Sir Gwaine episode could've been interesting if it was a sequel to Battlefield from S26 Like could tie it to a crack in time caused by a ghost shift/Mickey getting back to N-Space, causing the Doctor & Rose to arrive in the dimension that all the knights, Arthur & Morgaine came from. Although i guess, having it be Episode 11 in the same series with the Rise Of The Cybermen/Age Of Steel + the dimension hopping already in Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday could be a tad repetitive (the whole get back from Pete's World and then few episodes later get back from Arthur's Dimension, then in the finale Daleks & void ship hiding in the void + cybermen and The Preachers from Petes World)

[@plantainsame2049]

Irene what if we Cut out then getting back from Pete's world and have them land in arthur's world So they fall through pete's world arthur's world before finally coming back out into n-space But Is the voice ship follows them back

[@shakes1026]

Fir Bholg is pronounced as "Feer volg", at least it is here in Munster. Fairly sure it translates as Wounded Men but I could be wrong. Leaving Cert (A Level) Irish is really serving me well 🙄

[@Jplays23]

Loved this, some of these sound super interesting, i womder if any will ne brought pack in part/at all.

[@laineydavis00]

I had no idea that fully fleshed out ideas could just be dropped like that!! Fingers crossed Matt Berry makes his way into Doctor Who... hopefully using the incredible speaking pattern he uses in WWDITS haha

[@toyotatacoma1616]

I legit think Matt Berry would make for an excellent Doctor.

[@calumgardner6936]

While the whole thing with Penny for Series 4 sounds interesting, I can only thank god above we got what we did with Donna instead

[@CyborgCharlotte]

“Sonic Doom” sounds like either a Yugioh card or a Sonic The Hedgehog/DOOM crossover mod

[@FTZPLTC]

OK, if Who can do "what if this person's imagination became real" episodes, I would definitely like to see that but with the person being the inventor of a Sonic/DOOM crossover mod.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

@@FTZPLTC Or just a video game in general. Going inside computers is such a common sci fi trope, it’s surprising Doctor Who is yet to tackle it. Or did it? This show’s been around for 60 years, give me a break 😅

[@FTZPLTC]

@@CyborgCharlotte - I thought it'd be fun to have an episode that seems like it's set in a video game - something like Dead Space or Silent Hill. But then eventually it turns out that the monsters aren't virtual - they're just cloned meat-puppets with AI in them, because it's cheaper and less processor intensive than trying to program good raytracing. Cue the Doc getting hella angry and burning the place to the ground.

[@CyborgCharlotte]

@@FTZPLTC Oooooh! Might steal that idea for my own sci fi stories :P

[@FTZPLTC]

@@CyborgCharlotte Call it "Spawn Point" and name a villain character who dies horribly after me pls. =)

[@CyborgCharlotte]

The Bog Men alien concept is pretty cool honestly. Kinda biased because I’m kinda fascinated by real world stuff like Bog Bodies, but still😅

[@junahn1907]

I thought there WAS a J K Rowling episode. She played the angry Meep in The Star Beast.

[@mathieuleader8601]

the Void sounded like an awesome story not too sure about the Gatiss one with the hand though reminded me much of the Dr. Mysterio episode

[@berendboer8459]

The Shi'ar? As in... the alien empire from X-Men?! definitely

[@arubinojr5670]

3:45 Has real comic book limited series potential. 5:38 Never Forget, even in Current Year, that a Stephen Fry teleplay being allowed to fall through is what caused Fear Her.

[@OverAnalyst]

17:28 Also how bad was When We Weren't There, that Kill the Moon was *better*?!

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

And in 2033 they all got made into Big Finish Lost Stories. 😅 (or short trips like that one) Except the JK Rowling one, *shudder* I'm glad they didn't retool Love & War, I love that story just as it is. I loved Human Nature just as it was too, but removing it from Doctor 7 ruins less than taking L&W from him. 23:35 Wait, what?!? You can be demonetized for mentioning the pandemic? Since when? Since why?!?

[@BrankoVT]

At the start of the pandemic you could get demonitises for some reason, but I don't know if that's still in place.

[@ogpandamonium]

I think it was to prevent misinformation but it definitely didn't work.

[@CineScarborough]

You're assuming JK Rowling doesn't learn the errors of her ways and gets some form of redemption.

[@MichaelM28]

@@CineScarboroughShe doesn't need redemption as she did nothing wrong

[@NK-nx7ej]

Awesome video, thank you very much for all this info and hard work!

[@roseflood1612]

Just realised, Davies actually did use "The Void" as inspiration for Wild Blue Yonder.

[@Jplays23]

Just to counter the phobes finding this video, it has been your continued open support of the trans community, and the windr LGBTQIA+ community that has caused me to subscribe, rather than just watch your videos of they pop on on my feed. Thanks for being awesome.

[@MichaelM28]

Ok groomer

[@plantainsame2049]

I haven't found any of them yet Not that that's a bad thing

[@mikefine619]

Does anyone have the link for the first page of the Rasputin script?

[@ThistleBlue]

More reasons to love David Tennant then. Stopping, at the time unknown, a Transphobic person from appearing in the show. Legend!

[@zurgtheemperor975]

I would have liked to have seen the storyline where with the Doctor manipulating Rose's timeline. Moffat briefly wrote years ago in Dr Who Magazine about his idea for if David Tennant stayed on another year, but when he did, he called Amy "Amy Pond" instead of the name you stated in the video. Although maybe just called her "Amy" in that article to keep things simple.

[@milktenders6219]

I’m rewatching the show, and the line “good old JK” aged like milk

[@AFriendRemembers]

Interesting that you comment on she who cannot be named (without summoning a horde of trolls willing to argue in both directions). There was never a script so it doesnt count as an unmade episode but RTD asked her if she'd like to write an ep when he took the reigns. She was amused but gave a very definitive no

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

My birthday is also in April and thank you for standing up against transphobia.

[@notreallyginger5831]

April birthday supremacy

[@rac3502]

Mines in April too

[@rangerzickle3350]

I still would have loved to see that J.K Rowing episode. Specially since this was in the height of the Harry Potter movies and Tennet was in The Goblet of Fire. Imagine the back and forth Harry and the Doctor would have as Harry confuses him for Mad Eye

[@DaveMan1K]

Rowling didn't attack anyone. The supposed "allies" however have doxxed, harassed, bullied, sent death threats, and celebrated an innocent man's passing.

[@lpc9929]

​​@@DaveMan1K2 wrongs

[@enbyennui]

Thank the lord for David Tennant apparently being an actual time traveller with the foresight to save us from this shit.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

Coming soon to Big Finish: Doctor Who - The Lost Stories, Vol. 27.

[@rassilontdavros3004]

Ah yes, the legendary unmade JKR episode. Probably one of the biggest dodged bullets in Who history, though nothing will ever top "Patrick Troughton wanted to play the Doctor in blackface so nobody would recognize him" in that regard.

[@ryaneckersley2037]

he what

[@CashelOConnolly]

@@ryaneckersley2037 yup ,it was unacceptable then and it’s unacceptable now‼️🔷🔷🔷🔷

[@rassilontdavros3004]

@@ryaneckersley2037 Yeah, he was so afraid that taking over the role from Hartnell would be a disastrous failure that he didn't want anybody to associate him with it. How exactly he thought people would fail to recognize him if he wore blackface is beyond me.

[@TPH250290]

Now they'll see the real you.

[@rassilontdavros3004]

@@TPH250290 That wasn't a dodged bullet. That bullet hit the show square in the chest.

[@redjirachi1]

11:16-That's a certified alternate timeline bruh moment

[@joshsobchak9902]

BBC to Harbo: Alright, we'll let you off this time.

[@THOMAS_VANN]

At least rtd did get his Pompeii episode in series 4

[@thetimeshadow6769]

If they make a Sleep No More Prequel, I think they should call it: Sleep Again.

[@aeloswindrunner]

I'd say the Matt Berry clip should have been of Lazzlo Cravensworth, but it would probably be demonetised immediately xD

[@MediocrMrFox]

The bog men name is pronounced "FEER-bolg" Also a D&D race lmao

[@eye-chan1711]

So glad the JKR story never happened. It would be pretty awkward with the doctor being able to change sex and all that... Might be kind of funny with the thirteenth doctor though. Especially with how easily she brings up how she used to be a man.

[@GoatManWithAplan]

Thank the mighty Rassilon the JK Rowling episode didn’t happen!

[@MichaelM28]

Found the groomer

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@MichaelM28It's You Historically, people who call other people evil are actually the evil people, for example, the church

[@something1600]

@@MichaelM28 Found the Fascist.

[@Lia-uf1ir]

2:05 Wow, I would've loved to watch The Void!

[@Fenris77]

12:34 Shi'ar that sounds like a empire in Marvel universe...

[@plantainsame2049]

I mean if the doctor travels back to the seventh doctors era And it takes a few turns he could end up in the marvel universe Because doctor who has one continuity and at one point, it was part of marvel uk, which was connected Is to both the transformers and the main marvel universe for a time

[@Fenris77]

@@plantainsame2049 Indeed I believe it was an issue where Deathshead ( Later after that killed and absorbed into the multiple minds of the cyborg Minion that eventually became Deathshead II) became part of Transformers (At that point still part of Marvel).

[@tom_4615]

Wait do you get demonitised for talking about covid??? That's ridiculous hahaha

[@terra4686]

on behalf of myself and all the trans people i know, you are cool for hating rowling 👍 im subscribing

[@travelservices1200]

Yes, by all means, meet perceived (I believe, incorrectly) hate with real hate. That's the way to solve social issues. Your hate has made you poweful!

[@glowstoneunknown]

Yeah, fuck terfs!

[@terra4686]

her influence got a trans kid killed.

[@robinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

12:36 the Shi'ar are already an alien race from X-Men, so they probably wouldn't have used that name

[@Joshisepic2222]

I agree that we dodged a bullet with no Rowling episode, but we still have to deal with the next worst thing, the Shakespeare code

[@toadtv4389]

It's not even nearly as bad as JK episode would be. It just references Harry Potter which is cool

[@MichaelM28]

Cry harder groomer

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@toadtv4389But it was written by gareth roberts wasn't it

[@something1600]

Shut up fascist. @@MichaelM28

[@apanapandottir205]

The Rasputin story sounds amazing hahah

[@imadeadmeme9429]

at last, The Monk

[@PstrywBerryVids]

I think that's welsh (?)

[@carolinemcgovern4488]

I gotta say, putting JK aside, that story with the aliens attaching themselves to an athour and making their words come alive sounds amazing AF, and I hope they return to it in the future with someone different.

[@plantainsame2049]

Isn't that just the land of Fiction crossed with turn left

[@Goldenwhitewings]

3:39 how dare you

[@zaristophanes]

M’aiq means the opposite?

[@rangerzickle3350]

I still would have loved to see that J.K Rowing episode. Specially since this was in the height of the Harry Potter movies and Tennet was in The Goblet of Fire. Imagine the back and forth Harry and the Doctor would have as Harry confuses him for Mad Eye. I truly believe we have been robbed of some great storytelling potential.

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

It would've been dumb. Tennant was right, it would've been some dumb parody

[@rangerzickle3350]

@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk Or we could’ve had a moment we’re Harry mistakes the Doctor for Mad Eye Moody.

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

@@rangerzickle3350 You just proved my point...

[@theoatyastarties]

I would like to have seen JK Rowling in Doctor Who, She wrote one of the most notable book series of all time and considering that she got a shout out in The Shakespeare code it would explain the line "GOOD OLD JK!"

[@Cheesusful]

Lol @ "one of the greatest movie franchises of all time"

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

She didn't write those movies. She wrote the books and then screenwriters adapted them. She can't write TV and movies, as proven by Fantastic Beasts.

[@theoatyastarties]

@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk Sorry for that mistake, I've corrected it now.

[@Cheesusful]

@@theoatyastarties extra lol @ "one of the greatest book series of all time that is still popular to this day" especially considering its popularity has been severely dropping off lately...

[@theoatyastarties]

@@Cheesusful For me Harry Pottor died with Fantastic Beasts two

[@CashelOConnolly]

Well I’m glad it never happened‼️Doctor Who doesn’t need a transphobe(allegedly ) tarnishing its reputation 🔷🔷🔷🔷

[@TimeMasterOG]

"transphobe" such a meaningless word you people over use it to the point it might as well not have been made

[@nyssalikesbugs]

@@TimeMasterOG it applies to JK rowling regardless

[@CashelOConnolly]

@@nyssalikesbugs true,a truly rotten person 🤢

[@TimeMasterOG]

@@nyssalikesbugs it really doesnt...

[@TimeMasterOG]

all she said is that trans women arent actually women... and thats true they arent they are men and will always be men via their biological makeup

[@killgriffinnow]

The JK Rowling fiasco is an excellent example of how social media and the internet have done more harm than good and continue to poison our ideas about society. I feel especially sad over how horribly Peter Davidson was treated by Twitter , and in fact he was bullied so much he left, simply due to his views that he preferred the doctor remain a man.

[@EmpireGamingWynter]

Sorry but no. JK Rowling has been an absolutely disgusting bigot towards trans people. You can't cry "bullies" when you outright treat entire groups of people like shit

[@DigiRangerScott]

Wait you’re comparing Pete Davidson to a proud transphobe? Are you shitting us?

[@z-rex6068]

Yeah and he was absolutely right

[@FTZPLTC]

Social media has allowed some people to expose themselves as bigots with misguided confidence, and I'm entirely fine with that.

[@arubinojr5670]

I like how "simply because/due" has become a giant red neon light that your opinions are bad to the point even you know it and your only recourse is pure unfiltered dishonesty.

[@DaveMan1K]

After the Hogwarts Legacy harassment campaign, I bought all of the Harry Potter books, and gave away my DVDs of the movies. Just remember what the supposed "good guys" did and are still doing.

[@beeeeeesbury]

What? 😂

[@DaveMan1K]

@@beeeeeesbury kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWKQYXiIh8x6mdE

[@badbeardbill9956]

Imagine caring that much, lmao

[@DaveMan1K]

@@badbeardbill9956 You think supporting cyberbullies is okay?

[@plantainsame2049]

​​@@DaveMan1KYou think supporting Biggeted people is 1 person being an a****** doesn't Excuse the first person being an asshole For example Just because They were against the nazis Does not make Soviet Russia good.

[@thewhitewolf1156]

The whole thing with J. K. Rowling is funny as hell, she was worshipped by the left in 2000s, then she came out with one opinion left doesn’t agree with and she is the enemy 😂

[@wc8246]

Yeah I know right? It's almost like someone openly stating bigoted opinions changes people's minds about them, so strange and never before heard of.

[@Joshisepic2222]

Yeah turns out that hating a minority makes people tend to dislike a lady

[@ImDehydrate]

@@wc8246 ahh yes, thinking sex exists is bigoted 🤡

[@MichaelM28]

@@wc8246Stating that men aren't women is not bigoted snowflake

[@MichaelM28]

@@Joshisepic2222normal people hate that minority too so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Electrobadgr]

JK Rowling did nothing wrong

[@beeeeeesbury]

She's a privileged cunt, stop licking her boot.

[@greenhowie]

She's made many aggressive posts on her X profile in the past that contain swearing, one notable example being when she "accidentally" pasted an offensive comment replying to a child. No matter what you think you have to admit that's a bit fucked up in the head for a famous children's author.

[@toyotatacoma1616]

Never mind politics, she wrote bad books.

[@satyathota9546]

Guys, thought experiment about Rowling here. Rowling's views on the trans issue weren't known back then (and I honestly don't think they were the same), so she could have lucked in to getting to write a Doctor Who episode. If she had written an episode, would her detractors in this comment section try to retroactively disavow her episode from the fandom? Would you blindly label it as bad/off limits without considering its merits? Would Harbo do a video on that episode? Would you unsubscribe from his channel if he said positive things about her writing, especially considering the episode itself would contain nothing controversial? Would like some answers please

[@glowstoneunknown]

I think most people would dislike it either way, because it's a bad idea for an episode. It's just sucking up to JK Rowling, regardless of the fact she would later be found out to be a bad person, writing a whole script about a well-known author just to get her to appear on the show is just plain cringeworthy.

[@Alistair-gi3bx]

People love unicorn and the wasp but the writer has said plenty of things on par with rowling. No you disavow the person, you can give credit to where it is deserved for the story and once you know their yikesy takes you would hope that the person doesn't get to write for the show in the future. Are you honestly hoping to have your questions answered or do you have an axe to grind?

[@beeeeeesbury]

I would have called the episode bad regardless of her being a cunt, it would have been bad.

[@FTZPLTC]

People don't blindly label Rowling's writing as bad. They read it and analyse it first.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@Alistair-gi3bx - It's weird, isn't it. OP seems to want there to be a scenario where we're forced to accept, forgive, or ignore Rowling's transphobia... because there was a good episode of Dr Who? Far better authors than her have earned my contempt with their views, and I revel in knowing that I'm enjoying their art without their approval.

[@DaveMan1K]

Rowling is demonised for saying men and women are fundamentally different. Whereas Tennant gets awarded by saying a black woman who thinks differently than he does shouldn't live. One of these is not like the other.

[@ClayCampbell]

When did he say she shouldn’t be alive?

[@DaveMan1K]

@@ClayCampbell kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmqoaoaueturfZIsi=s8Y8m4rqiDQqpEIs The "progressives" should see that as racism and misogyny, but those pigs won't cause this woman has "wrong think".

[@time_for_toast4922]

That sarcastic transphobic comment about J.K. Rowling was way too strong. Enough to change my like to a dislike.

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

Tell me one single person who asked

[@time_for_toast4922]

@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk if you care so little, why take the time to respond in the first place?

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

@@time_for_toast4922 I never said I don't care, you seem to have misread my reply. I'm not surprised you're illiterate, you support Rowling. Now tell me who asked.

[@BaloonBoy7]

Maybe take a minute to consider why you so dislike someone calling out transphobia lol

[@time_for_toast4922]

@@BaloonBoy7 there's a difference between calling out, and viciously mocking.

[@jamescarter8357]

harbo go one video without slandering someone as transphobic to try and discredit all they've ever done challenge (impossible)

[@FTZPLTC]

JK Rowling is transphobic.

[@Jplays23]

It's not slander when she is openly a transphobe though? It's fact. She is a transphobe.

[@travelservices1200]

@@Jplays23 Evidence, please?

[@Jplays23]

@@travelservices1200 have you missed the various Twitter rants, her funding of groups now noted as hate groups, and her association with infamous far right people? Assuming you have then try videos by contrapoints or illuminautea (probably wrong spelling and I can't link because I'm on mobile) as ones that I personally have watched for an explanation, though there are many others

[@travelservices1200]

@@Jplays23 I have read some of what I understand to be her reviled tweets, and while they may have been less than diplomatic (and likely were influenced by her own history as a victim of abuse) I didn't take them as full-on transphobic, (thus my question about evidence) just concerned that there are situations in which a woman who had been, for instance, abused by a man, might not want a non-transitioned transwoman to be too close, at least in the short term, even though that person is truly and perfectly safe to be around and has nothing but the best of intentions. I don't think it's a simple situation, though, and Twitter is not a good place for nuance, of course, which is one reason I try to avoid it. And it's certainly possible I've missed more problematic tweets. I know nothing about Rowling funding hate groups (apart from HMRC...ha ha), but she certainly doesn't strike me as a Kid Rock-type, shooting cases of beer because the manufacturer had a trans person to appear in their Super Bowl ad. Now THAT was both hateful and frankly should have been embarrassing to him, but I fear he has little capacity for that. Perhaps I'm wrong. I don't think even THAT person should be unfairly vilified. I guess that's really my concern. I think there is room for discussion between the trans community and Rowling, though there's been a fair amount of bad blood already that could get in the way. Now, I can understand why the trans community is...I don't know what the proper word is...Tense? Frustrated? Impatient? All of the above and more? It's a VERY difficult world into which to be born trans, particularly with people acting like Kid Rock. But there are degrees of error, and differences of point of view that can exist without any malice intended, and people can say things that come across badly when they don't mean any derogation. Everyone is trying to figure things out as they go along, and the universe is very big and confusing and often frightening, even for billionaire authors...and, I suppose (trying to practice what I preach) for rock "stars", though I have less sympathy for the likes of Kid Rock. I'm not really interested in watching videos detailing a third party's take on such things--I'd rather watch videos about Doctor Who. I think it's more edifying. It certainly IS interesting to imagine what would be the current status of a former episode in which JKR appeared, given her currently being in bad odour with the trans community, to borrow a phrase from Hannibal Lecter. I find snideness and cattiness--whether against JKR or Mark Gatiss or whomever--to be other than impressive, but those little bits of personal distaste on my part are more than overshadowed by Harbo's excellent discussion, commentary and knowledge. Everyone has their own axes to grind, obviously, and he is of course, entitled to say what he wishes in the videos he makes. I know I always like them.

[@MichaelM28]

Thanks for confirming you hate women

[@plantainsame2049]

Projection

[@something1600]

Shut up fascist.

[@filozica867]

I would have loved to see j.k in doctor who. Just because she made a comment. She is hated, around the world, by some woke nonsence people. All she said was. There are two genders? That does not mean that she hates transgender... I love her

[@wc8246]

A few things, she said one her her friends was fired from her job for saying "a woman is a woman" when in fact, she was bullying trans people on her twitter account, which was very publicly linked to her place of work, her work then decided that because of how it was making them look, they would not renew her yearly contract. Her saying that she was fired for saying a woman is a women is untrue, why does JK insist that it was a mere question that got her fire, not deliberate bullying? Seems sus. She supported the "rapid onset gender dysphoria" study, which took children who were by no means trans (one of them was thought to be trans because he played with a doll once, literally) then, after the study was done, all of the children who could not be contacted were considered to have de-transitioned, the problem, however is 1) There was no evidence they were trans to begin with, and 2) they had no evidence to suggest they de-transitioned. Anyone should be able to see how dishonest that study was, and how it was made to get a specific result. Her parroting that study thinking it is serious, unbiased, and accurate, is so staggeringly dishonest I can only assume malice.

[@beeeeeesbury]

"Woke nonsense" is baseline humanity, grow up and stop being such a snowflake.

[@arubinojr5670]

"a comment." Parody at this point.

[@badbeardbill9956]

Ah yes a singular comment. Not that this is a known thing and has been for a few years…

[@MichaelM28]

@@wc8246ok groomer

[@pee8607]

Thankfuckinggod

[@Andrew-up3dr]

JK Rowling is not transphobic for saying facts

[@emilia22]

Maybe, but she is transphobic for saying and doing transphobic things

[@jamesbaker2092]

Which facts are you talking about? Her support for Maya Forstater? Her Horrific opinion piece 'Terf wars' Calling trans healthcare a new form of 'conversion therapy' Her recent collaboration with members of the heritage foundation Her insinuation trans rights are 'a threat to women' Describing the trans rights movement as a 'powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement'. Oh wait, none of that is fact, it's all her own, unfiltered, dogshit opinion.

[@Cheesusful]

Nope she's transphobic because she pretends to be an ally whilst actively fighting pro trans legislation, presents opinions as "facts" and uses harmful rhetoric whilst crying "won't somebody think of the children"... Amongst other things.

[@badbeardbill9956]

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about