DOCTOR WHO CANCELS DAVROS, Russell has lost his MIND!!

These people just can't stop making bad decisions

[@laurencewinch-furness9450]

The irony is, Davros being disabled makes perfect sense thematically. Fascists obsess over ideals of "strength" and "supremacy" yet they repeatedly fail to live up to those ideals. An old underground joke in Nazi Germany was that the perfect aryan should be as blonde as Hitler, as tall as Gobbels, as slim as Goering, as muscular as Himmler and as heterosexual as Rohm. So the image of Davros as a weak and disabled man, soaked in Kaled dogmas of strength and domination, lashing out at the world due to self-loathing and denial makes him the perfect metaphor for fascism.

[@Quotheraving]

Plus the race that are both mutants and genetically modified being obsessed with racial purity. Also on a tangent aren't all Daleks in effect 'evil wheelchair users'?

[@jamesstewart7736]

The other irony is that according to Russell T Davies no one who is disabled is evil. Does anybody really believe that? 🤔

[@lamaahruloma4270]

​@@Quotheravingexactly and exactly. Daleks use more advanced travel machine or wheelchair, than Davros, poor little things.

[@synthmaniacmoog2607]

Yeah. Imagine if these wokies were charged with making a show about the Nazis. Rohm would be a tall, slim, clear skinned, straight man, because we cant portray overweight, homosexuals, with facial scars, as evil....

[@deltaproductions313]

So I guess Darth Vader is offensive now because he has asthma and is a amputee

[@nicholasdickens2801]

And don’t forget the scars and him being evil will be a mental health issue.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

I'm sure they're way ahead of you on that one. No doubt he's offensive to people who are on life-support etc.

[@hagakura]

It’s not a wheel chair. It’s a life support device.

[@scottfromspace]

The move wasn't about wheelchairs specifically, it was about disabilities being used as signifiers of villainous characters I don't believe it ever made me think of disabilities as a negative trait either, but after watching Tharries video on the topic (someone who actually has a disability) I can understand the change I mean, it's a 5 minute clip intended to raise money for a charity that supports children with disabilities, and it's literally just intended to be Davros pre-accident

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

@@scottfromspace Did you not listen to what Russel said? He said he considers this change essential and the equivalent of doctor who going from black and white to colour, its never going back. There's no other way to interpret any of what he said. Its either a permanent change or this is the last time he intends to show Davros on screen. Also if we really want to think about it lore wise this takes place well after the bombing on his lab which gave him his disabilities, probably right before Genesis.

[@ChrisKhaled83]

EXACTLY!! He was badly burnt and Injured when his laboratory got shelled in the Kaled war. Its NOT a Wheelchair, Its a life support system. There is only "half" of the evil scientist left. Its a part of the damned character.... It would be a good episode, that shows Davros before his accident, that should be the only time he should be depicted not in his life support system. ( I have had this episode in my mind for years, now this ruins it) RTD is an Idiot.

[@jakehenderson2959]

They’ve created a problem that wasn’t even there. What next? Making the Slitheen skinny because it’s offensive to fat people?

[@Mark-nh2hs]

It will be Cybermen as probably according to RTD is offensive to people with Artificial prosthetics as Cybermen are portrayed as Unemotional and Cold. 😂

[@johnr8212]

​@@Mark-nh2hsor rename Cyberthem

[@jml119]

Funny thing is, back in 2007, Sarah Jane Adventures did have Slitheen in “slimline” skin suits.

[@TenCapQuesada]

Not only fat, but farting as well. Can't have that.

[@Toracube]

I had never thought Davros was evil because he is disabled until Russell told me that I must. I’m not sure why someone with a disability cannot be a bad guy? It’s all about the individual… not what they represent ffs..

[@Mark-nh2hs]

Yep

[@nicholasdickens2801]

You are making a mistake in your reasoning, you are using normal thinking.

[@kevinkelly5780]

Davros destroying his own body and keeping himself alive using dalek tech, was a massive part of his character

[@nicholasdickens2801]

I believe a Thal bombardment destroyed his body.

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

@@nicholasdickens2801 This is true. That said they already destroyed the continuity in his last appearance. He lost is eyes in the bombing, its the entire reason he has the third eye. Moffat never questioned that apparently.

[@Mark-nh2hs]

He didn't have a problem with Davros when he brought him back in Season 4 - what's changing ooooh Disney Channel.

[@MichaelM28]

It's got nothing to do with Disney. He's been getting progressively more woke over the years

[@joeswift2106]

​@@MichaelM28wont help having the mouse looming over you with millions in arms reach

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Oh gosh yes this is all Disney.

[@PRESIDENT_LEMON]

Oh Russell I’m so glad to hear you say this, i expect to hear a full apology over Cassandra, John Lumic and Max Capricorn by the end of the week, you know cause these are two disabled and evil characters you created.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Indeed. Here here!

[@sixstanger00]

Oi! We meet again! You here too, eh?

[@brinnrobinson17]

Also in series 4 brought the original davros from the classic to the modern perfectly

[@billthewhovian]

As a disabled man myself Davros is not offensive to me. I haven't seen any comments from disabled people saying "Yes! They're changing Davros. Now I can watch the show without being offended!" and I've seen a few videos like this one most disabled people I've seen commenting either don't care at all that Davros is disabled or they are angered by the claim that they somehow ought to be offended by as Russell put it "Old Davros" I personally hate that Russell has said this, he is making out like there is some issue that simply doesn't exist. Did Russell actually talk to disabled people? Did he do a survey of disabled people? I can't remember getting a survey that's for sure! Russell let's leave poor old Davros alone in his chair. Also Russell, I decide what I find offensive not you.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

What he’s done is to remove a high profile person with a disability so you don’t see disabilities.

[@jibicusmaximus4827]

it's generally young white women with dyed hair who make the noise for all the people they patronisingly deem an oppressed minority

[@ryllian6]

I am soooooooooo done with this doctor who, its DEAD!!!!!!

[@DoctorHowTV]

By RTD's logic, the Daleks have always been and always will be the Wheelchair Monsters.

[@mudbutton2]

As a white middle aged male, I'm offended that this alien villain is portrayed as a white middle aged male. I bet he's even hetero too, to add to his villainy! I was watching in 1975 when Davros first appeared. It's been clear from the outset that he's a CYBORG and the "Wheelchair" is in fact his life support system and a part of him. He's a product of a long war, physically and mentally. I've held hopes for this show since it restarted in 2005, against all the evidence, but it just gets worse and worse and more lightweight and woke.

[@chriswagner2694]

So Russel is taking one of the most iconic and recognizable villains and turning him into a generic nazi scientist that looks like all the other generic nazis?

[@cuedotfilms4427]

Well that's what the Daleks were based on from the very beginning. That's Nation's idea from the start.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

When he says 'the world has changed' what he actually means is 'these days there are a bunch of imbeciles on social media who make us think this crap matters and we haven't got the balls to ignore it'.

[@Vixis6]

Straight facts, no sugar coating. Finally somone said it how i felt hearing that nonsense. Im afraid for the series now. This aint the MCU

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Blooming well is now with Disney. They’ll exterminate exterminate now!

[@wiltaylor]

I never really saw him as disabled. He was a half Dalek 3 eyed superman.

[@gregsmith7949]

IT'S NOT A WHEELCHAIR! It's a life support system that keeps him alive. It explains why the Daleks look the way they do. Davros represent a Dalek/human hybrid. "Genesis" was a brilliant story and Davros was a brilliant villain. So brilliant that every Dalek story for the remainder of the original series featured him in some way. This is sacrilege and nothing more than taking a huge dump on the franchise and the fans in an effort to score points with the woke.

[@scottfromspace]

The move wasn't about wheelchairs specifically, it was about disabilities being used as signifiers of villainous characters I don't believe it ever made me think of disabilities as a negative trait either, but after watching Tharries video on the topic (someone who actually has a disability) I can understand the change I mean, it's a 5 minute clip intended to raise money for a charity that supports children with disabilities, and it's literally just intended to be Davros pre-accident

[@nigelwalker6103]

What about Two Face or the Joker from Batman? "You wanna know how I got these scars?" What about Captain Hook or the treacherous Long John silver, both amputees?

[@Wyzard01]

And we thought RTD coming back was going to be great.

[@danielyeshe]

I thought the whole point of equality was that we are all equal. So surely it shouldn't matter. If Davros was the only example of disability in Doctor Who then that might be an issue. Wouldn't a better choice be to have him played by an actual wheelchair user?

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Indeed. You are correct.

[@smithyblue]

This further proves just how dead Dr Who is, this BS about changing Davros because he’s a villain in a wheelchair (when it’s really the characters life support machine), I never saw him as an allegory of evil towards disabled people, since this issue was brought up by RTD in the first place. Because he didn’t have any objections when creating characters like John Lumic (creator of the Cybermen from parallel earth, who was clearly based on Davros), with that backwards mindset they’ll probably stop using the Cybermen so that every person using prosthetic limbs are also not associated as being evil, smfh. Russel has made it clear that he only came back to promote more of the “identity politics” bollocks by not retconning the timeless children, (which disrespects every person who worked on the show from 1963 till 2017), because he’s mates with a moron who ruined it just to pander to a small percentage of the audience. I’ll be watching the 3 part anniversary for the nostalgia of David Tennant & Catherine Tate, after that I’m done with Dr Who and couldn’t give a shit what happens to the programme going forward.

[@xsm5525]

100% agree with you on this mate, you should check out, if you don't know already - Noel Zone podcasts and people like Gobster :) so many nails hit on heads! one of the biggest being (and I can't remember who said it but) If Russel had such an issue with Davros being in a children in need episode which would create PC 'issues' ... then WHY F%%KING have Davros in it in the first place!?! jeeezus!!

[@morsmagne]

The notion that villains are often portrayed as being disabled simply isn’t true. GPT-4 finds that only 1 out of 25 villains has a disability but those disabilities are negligible.

[@chrisvasey5847]

i didnt even think of davros as being in a wheelchair...and still dont.

[@wolftales5203]

They looked at Davros and were reminded of disabled people. Thats not bigoted at all 😂

[@zacharywho5442]

Dude, the idea I had of Davros was that he sacrificed anything that might be called "Kaled", in this case, to achieve immortality and superiority and he just viewed the concept of the Dalek as superior and therefore every other race as inferior, but was too vain to destroy himself along with them so he modded his bod to be more like the Daleks. I vaguely considered an accident led to that state, but I had more of an idea that his state is due to his age so I did always want to see Davros before all of that, but of course, it seems like the fucked around a bit too much.

[@MrWiggsy4]

Nobody. And i mean fucking nobody, saw davros as a wheelchair user

[@thebeatconnoisseur2331]

This video is 9 minutes and 24 seconds of straight facts

[@TenCapQuesada]

4:48 "I say this is how we see Davros.." How arrogant of you, Russell.

[@megansmith5884]

Davros is not a wheelchair user, He is CYBORG completely different!! Could you say Robocop is a disabled officer now because he has prosthetics? What utter bollocks.

[@lamaahruloma4270]

It's very offensive move against us with a disability. I am sure, I am not only one, who does feel so.

[@davidrhead8740]

RTD ,your very proud of making doctor who utter crap,with to much woke garbage,the old Davros is an icon.

[@LeaderDesslok]

Thank god RTF saved us all from the scourge of endless handicapped villains like Professor X, The Chief, Oracle, Daredevil, Captain Marvel Jr, Hawkeye, Edward Elric, Geordie Laforge, and Ironside.

[@DarioDarrow]

How are kids meant to be terrified of a man in a black suit? Davros terrified me as a kid. how he'll have a fluffy plush toy.

[@minicle426]

"Mein Doctor! ...I can walk!"

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

Honestly, if u pay attention to what The Doctor says, he mentions someone messing with Canon. Given that this scene is then meant to lead into the start of the anniversary trilogy, and given we know the Toymaker is involved, this could just be another aspect of someone trying to rewrite reality, much in the same way Tennant is back again and not be choice.

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

@SteveyTheEx-Eevee well it's not thr idea of Davros gaining his freedom from his crippled body hasn't been toyed with before. Listen to Dr. Who Terror Firma, Davros made a cloned body to try and transfer his mind into.

[@jboy11123]

4:47 he's literally flipping us all the bird

[@dinoworld112]

If they were goanna change it why not make it cooler , they didn't even keep the face

[@melonrattler2591]

Absolutely agree!

[@patchey8019]

The irony is that this is able-ist and they're doing it in the guise of addressing ableism. Now only able bodied people can play evil characters, you're removing representation away and giving more of it to able bodied people.

[@daveduvergier3412]

These people will finally be able to rest once every wicked character in every piece of drama ever produced has been retconned into a slightly fat middle-aged white bloke like me.

[@Lampshadecollector]

I agree with you and disagree, taking away such a great and iconic villain because it can be offensive is not something I agree with, but I would not really Russel mental for this, I really just blame twitter and the idiots on there

[@AveburyEddie]

Ha Ha ! Great idea ! I always thought that Davros slowed the Dalek stories down. With the one exception of Genesis of the Daleks. Ahhhhhh Doctor. Let us sit down & talk as scientists !

[@MrDiddyDee]

Oh, dear, well at least RTD had the restraint not to mention that the old Davros might misrepresent all blind, old or bald people as evil too. 🤫

[@NathanCundiff]

RTD helping ruin great science fiction. Whelp back to my video games and TV from 30 plus years ago

[@zacharywho5442]

Davros looks like this NOW???? Ohhhh, they better not try to retcon this shit. That had better be Davros before everything either pulled to the future or a Dalek in his past.

[@kevinkelly5780]

Disappointed. Davis used to create even minor characters I cared about and when they died, felt feels for. Now I know any `representation` character is completely safe

[@dockaos924]

The tv series Dr who has died but the Dr lives on

[@drakocarrion]

It's actually far more insulting to disabled people to remove Davros's life support system. What he is effectively doing is saying a disabled person can't be one of The Doctor's most memorable & capable villains unless they make him able bodied.

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

These people are too mentally ill to see that unfortunately. They also can't see that they could've just hired a disabled actor to pay him and that would be progressive, but instead they took that role off the table entirely along with his disability. The amount of irony in their mindset is beyond cringe.

[@jvblhc]

There is NO problem with Davros. There IS a problem with Russel T Davies. I thought he was going to save Doctor Who, but instead, he is ruining it.

[@annirvin6555]

And do forget “ Old Man Potter” in It’s a wonderful life.

[@Naisho07]

There are no wheels.... he is half Dalek. He is the father of the Daleks. It's absurd to try to recreate him. Just create a villain that suits your message needs. Don't redo them.

[@STEVEBINNION1]

Im disabled and i wont watch its all over for me

[@zacharywho5442]

5:31 Oh, I've been disconnected from the community too long, I thought I was an outsider for having this opinion.

[@darrenbuckless-rl6wd]

He WAS A RADIATION VICTIM FROM THE CIVIL WAR ON SKARO SO HOW IS THIS OFFENSIVE!!??

[@BlueEclipse2305]

I just thought, The end of Capaldi, he refused to Regenerate

[@user-un9go4qe5i]

I watched Genesis of the Daleks last night - albeit the truncated, omnibus version that I hadn't seen since December 1975. My first thought was 'how could RTD believe that his Children in Need pile of shite was in the same league as this?' Even cut down, and some of the cuts were obvious, it was light years ahead. It then occurred to me that Davros had been like that - looking a bit rough round the edges - for a very, very, very long time. I came away with the impression that he probably hadn't had an 'accident' at all and that his look was more to do with some kind of genetic debilitating disease or something. He didn't actually look 'radiation scarred' to me... just very old and having lost the use of his eyes, legs and one arm. The impression I got was that he had probably designed his 'mobile life-support unit' himself and had then designed the Daleks in his own image... that fits with his megalomania and ambition to be a 'god'. I'd even go so far as to suggest that he genetically engineered the Kaleds/Daleks to have one eye. I would agree that his backstory doesn't really need to be told, as with the Doctor the mystery is better... but I do think that RTD has totally, completely and disastrously misread it and got it all hopelessly wrong.

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

Except his backstory has been told and that should be respected. Not just in genesis but in all of the extremely well done Davros audiobooks. He survived a Thal bombing. He rebuilt himself and that is arguably an admiral trait. He's even been asked in several stories why he didn't clone himself a new body. It's because he's proud of his achievements and how long he's survived. Despite being crippled and murdered multiple times he's lived far longer than a normal lifespan for his people and has had more impact on the universe at large than almost anyone else. If you put the genocidal maniac part aside he's a pretty good representation of being able to achieve anything if you put your mind to it, regardless of your disability. Honestly they already disrespected his character in his previous appearance with Capaldi by having him open his eyes. Apparently Moffat didn't even think to question why he never opens those shrivelled eye sockets or why he has a third eye. He disrespected his origins and made him look very weak in that story.

[@user-un9go4qe5i]

@@EmpyreanDreamer I would point out that his backstory was never told in the TV series itself, which is arguable the most and only real canon there is. I think Terrance Dicks does mention the Thal attack briefly in his novelisation, but the books aren't truly canon either. So Davros's origins should always be shrouded in mystery. Moffat showed Davros as this strange, legless creature - which, again, was revealing far too much so to speak. Again, to me, Davros looks ancient rather than damaged by any bomb or missile. I think the biggest disservice, so far, has been in this case by RTD. It makes perfect sense to believe that Davros designed his own mobile life-support unit (for whatever reasons) and then, years later perhaps, designed the Daleks in his own image. I certainly don't believe the Dalek came first. RTD is so fcking obsessed with being a woke virtue-signaller that he is messing with things he clearly does not fully understand. For me, and I suspect many of us, this Children in Need sketch is just that, a piece of nonsense that can be disregarded. Just like the opening minute or two of The Wild Blue Yonder! RTD, I've got a good word for you and it rhymes with banker.

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

@@user-un9go4qe5i I wish this could be disregarded mate. But the way he talks about how important and absolute the change is makes it pretty clear to me its not just for a sketch. He said that was THEN this is NOW with the emphasis. Sadly I don't think he could've been more clear that this is a permanent change to the character. That said he already clarified he wont undo the timeless children so we should have expected this level of stupidity. Its our fault for having hope.

[@user-un9go4qe5i]

@@EmpyreanDreamer I genuinely wish RTD hadn't come back now... he's gone insane. Nothing can stop him and he's made that clear right enough. Such a shame. I will watch the third Tennant special, then I'm out for good. Fortunately I remember when Doctor Who was still good... and I have the DVDs!

[@dooshkin8552]

why couldn't they have changed Davros to be a black female, they seem to want to do that to many other characters. To claim people who are disabled cannot be evil is troublesome, especially as he doesn't seem to have a problem with white men being depicted as evil.

[@Fedaykin24]

4:45 I immediately said F'U Russell T Davies at this time stamp! What right does he have to say that this is how we see Davros now! It is apart from anything an extremely insulting and demeaning position to take in respect of wheel chair users! I have already seen wheel chair users furious about this and the idea that they shouldn't be portrayed as villains! It is called ACTING a disabled actor should be able to experience the full gamut of roles that is within their ability to perform!

[@nonsensicalchild]

So are the daleks going to lose their "wheelchairs" too ?

[@markjones-gu2fj]

This new Davros looks like Mr Burns from the Simpsons . I keep telling people my fears for the next series is RTD & Gatwa are both ultra gay & ultra woke nothing wrong with that but the interview with RTD & Gatwa when they said "it's important we put our stamp on the show and put OUR views across " so get ready for a super woke doctor pushing all the woke issues.

[@markjones-gu2fj]

No I hated Jodie & Chinbollocks for a number of reasons .Dr who has always been ploitical but not rammed down your throat as I fear the new series is going to do.

[@hoshi_sensei_2943]

​@@markjones-gu2fjif you don't like doctor who during chibnall that's OK but hate People is pretty stupid

[@timothybrown9020]

there is a way he could of regenerated davros after he tricked the doctor in witches' familiar i dont see a problem of him changing it makes him much less scary

[@annirvin6555]

So our all the alien inside the daleks, going naked?

[@ladymariska2647]

OMG its not a retcon, that mini episode is a prequel before davros had a wheelchair!

[@johnquinones.]

You didn't watch the video did you Rtd said this is what davros will be forever

[@timarmstrong3251]

Davies appears to be an absolute loon

[@JayDee-iy5be]

WTF? I wanna say 'I give up' but we are just ceding ground to prats like this. NOBODY I know ever saw Davros as disabled or in a wheelchair, I saw him as mutated, half-human (who should be long dead) and half-Dalek. This just shows the mindset of the cultural revolutionaries at the BBC.

[@matthwe3468]

Is it just me or does RTD want to be the creator of Doctor Who i.e replace Sydney Newman and have Doctor Who be totally his thing?

[@user-gj9uq3kb7y]

i don't know why people are shocked it should have been obvious that he will be just like the rest of them in today's world you were expecting something different really now

[@donaldvjr]

I'm disappointed in this. If RTD sticks to this

[@Problembeing]

Spot-fuckin-on!

[@pastorbri]

LEAVE DAVROS AS HE IS.....its a fact there are good and bad people in all walks of life so weather we like it or not there are good and bad disabled folk.....why should that be changed? Its a fact.

[@lukebisping1417]

I personally think this isn't a bad move for Russel, but a Poor Choice of Wording, If the Focus is going to shift on Davros' Past before his Evolution, that's fine and I'm convinced that's what Russel Meant, He just pulled a My Dad and went with the worst possible phrasing which is what alot of actors and celebrities have been doing lately, Where they have a kind heart but the words they're saying don't match up with what they were thinking. Maybe if we get some more clarification from Russel we'll calm down, but yeah, his choice of words is enough to piss anyone off.

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

That's still not a good move. If they focus on before his accident now they step on the toes of the already incredibly well told story done by Big Finish into Davros from a young boy to the Davros we all know. The story is all there and its extremely good, in my opinion the best Doctor Who audio series out there. I also don't think Russel said anything that needs to be clarified. In fact I don't think he could've been more clear about the change and how essential and absolute it is in his eyes. He quite literally said that was THEN this is NOW. Doctor who was in black and white now its in colour. He couldn't have made it more clear that this is a permanent change to a "problematic" character. They looked at Davros and all they thought about was disabled people yet they'll go ahead and call us bigots for not agreeing with the change.

[@strakermidwich9679]

Also at the beggining of the year ReTarDavies was saying how all these woke writers were awful and how he hated it! Epic hypocrite!!!!!!

[@AlmostEthical]

Simply, they have completely destroyed the character. They turned an iconic monster into a low rent Nazi. Boring.

[@AgentH53]

What's next? The Silence is offensive to people with Dementia / Amnesia?

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

The amount of irony is in this decision is absolutely insane. You can forget that Davros is the ultimate genocidal dictator fascist and thus probably the worst possible character to use as a pandering device... The ultimate irony is if you really wanted to be politically correct you would have brought him back the way he was and cast a wheel chair user to play him, not remove any possibility of there being an iconic role available for someone in a wheelchair. I bet there's a ton of disabled actors out there who'd love a crack at such an iconic villain. Too bad for them. Instead they need to be forcibly "protected" by mentally ill people.

[@druanubis7194]

I stopped watching Doctor Who when the woman took over and they came up with the Timeless Child bs!

[@rorywilson656]

RTD is developing a bad habit of making issues and causing resentment where none existed before, then saying the fans are the ones with the problem for reacting badly to the shallow writing and clumsy virtue signalling. I think he's creating more division by doing stuff like this and causing problems for the people he's fighting for- do they even need his help to be heard? Why does Doctor Who have to speak for anyone anyway, can't it just tell good stories anymore? I don't feel particularly represented by the show, and that has never bothered me- I'm in it for the story, not the tickbox.

[@owenwildish331]

This is why I despise the title of 'Showrunner'... (I'd prefer it if they called these so-called Showrunners the "Show's Custodian" or something like that, something that doesn't sound so egotistical, particularly if they're in charge of a long running legacy series, if you catch my meaning)

[@JackosJingles]

So Davros turns into a white dude in a uniform that's black.

[@paulmorris5166]

Good review. Have a like and a new subscriber.

[@crispendaysh3401]

I admit I’m done after David Tennant and Catherine Tate comes out. I’m done with how the show has gone woke

[@dennisbalch2217]

Cool. So he's utterly generic and forgettable. Wasn't he in the wheel chair because he was unfathomably old?

[@Artemisthemp]

I feel like disliking this Video, not because I disagree with the video but because the change to Davros makes me sad :(

[@melonrattler2591]

I was personally burnt out on Doctor Who and walked away after Chinballs. RTD coming back gave me a glimmer of hope and his first creative decision was like a slap across the face for daring to have belief. 😂 But I can relate.

[@Artemisthemp]

@@melonrattler2591 Chinnball was the creator behind the worse Doctor?

[@Melvinshermen]

I don’t want the Guy but whole devos thing, this take before he was handicap

[@Robert10075]

I subscribed after “sorry I’m just eating a banana “ What some may see as unprofessionalism I found amusing

[@leonhughes134]

So 2023 Davros is pre-accident. Great then we can only see him pre-Genesis where he doesn’t know the Doctor? Good luck getting some stories out of that. Also, a pre accident Davros was shown in the Capaldi stories ?

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

We saw him in as a child in the Capaldi story yes. And his entire childhood to the Davros we know is told in the big finish audio series so if they do go that way they'll be retconning a very well done story. But I don't think they will. I think it'll continue as always and suddenly he'll look entirely different. Best case scenario they can say he cloned himself a new undamaged body. But even that is disrespectful because he had the capability to do that centuries ago. He chose not to. He's proud of what he's achieved and how much he's survived even in such a frail state. Anything else wouldn't be him. While he is a genocidal maniac he's also a great example of overcoming disability.

[@bioshock6935]

I don't see any problem with this new take of davors before he become a cyborg dalek if star trek strange new worlds can do it with captain pike before he had his accident and disfigured from a fire and confined to his wheelchair then it can work for new doctor who this should of been made as a story for 60th anniversary show and see davors transcend into the wheelchair but with tennant as the doctor. Yes i do agree the show went downhill when peter capaldi regenerated into the new dr i felt that as well as the story was getting so bad and i didn't like his take of the character.

[@thewanderer1663]

And, the new Davros is bland, balding Nazi man? Old Davros made sense, plus, if we're going to progressive sense, you're saying disabled people can't be evil Russel?

[@sulli9568]

Don't bother with watching the 60th anniversary. Made me want to off myself

[@paulaburrows8660]

F RTD and his crappy version of Dr Who. I at least know now that I don't have to bother with the specials and certainly not the new series. I'll stick to the Collection releases, when it was the show I loved.

[@KeithAndrewPGbiz]

Oh, do pipe down and stop being offended by things that make absolutely no difference to you.

[@crispendaysh3401]

I’m like u would like to slap them silly. And tell them stop with the WOKE SHIT.

[@ccthornley]

Why would you eat a fkng banana when you're recording your audio??????

[@melonrattler2591]

I was hungry

[@ccthornley]

@@melonrattler2591 HIT PAUSE! I mean, who just scoffs down a banana in the middle of a dis track? Having just watched a pirated Children In Need clip, it wasn't that bad. They could totally have gotten....excuse me I just have to....omnomnomnom....sorry...they would have gotten away with it if he hadn't of said anything. and because you're English, please send RTD a link to Quentin Kenihan. Wheel chair kid who absolutely LOVED playing villains. last film was Mad Max Fury Road. He used to play Darth Vader at his school during playtime. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Kenihan

[@freebretth]

😂

[@kimtowne2809]

Woke nonsense affecting the story line 😂😂😂

[@ladydetta]

What a load of rubbish, RTD has lost the plot. Dr Who, like Star Wars Is DEAD.

[@wolftales5203]

To be fair, Doctor Who has been dead for at least 6 years

[@tommoconstantly]

Haha doctor who is so dead 😂

[@jnielson1121]

I don't think it's about *offfending* people in wheelchairs - I think it's about representation and addressing a world where children with disabilities are consistently shown reflections of themselves in media as evil or bad. The point seems to be what RTD is saying about a long history of how disability is represented in media and basically its use as code for a whole load of negative things (contagion, evil, malice, resentment even??) And where you only hvae one disabled character turn up and they're both very visibly disabled and one of the few key villains... there's an imbalance there. I think it takes a bit of thought to see the problem but it does involve thinking yourself into someone else's shoes. Also I'm not sure you're right about RTD just jumping on a bandwagon... he is an openly gay man who created the first gay-focussed tv drama in the world. He has *always* cared enormously about representation. He gave a speech at an event not long ago, criticising Disney for their "pathetic craven gesture" towards LGB inclusion in Loki where the canonically bisexual and gender-switching character says "maybe" when in one line someone suggests he might have had daliances with some princes and not just princesses. And now he's working alongside Disney - this is a showrunner who understands the industry and stands up for what he believes in. I'm also a bit confused about your ire at LGBT issues while being a fan of DW. Like... it's always been the most progressive thing on telly. Anyhow - I know it feels really horrible to not quite be able to get on board with something in a show you love so I hope you can think yourself around this (that's what the Doctor would do) and find some enjoyment from it.

[@melonrattler2591]

What about the disabled characters that are presented as good? Professor X, Luke Skywalker, daredevil… Do we take away their hardships as well?

[@jnielson1121]

@@melonrattler2591 no that would defeat the object (clearly). This isn't my policy - I'm just saying what I understand the argument to be and if it's true that disability has been used as cultural code for evil/ contagion then efforts should push in the other direction, shouldn't they? You could, as an alternative strategy, balance it out with a greater number of positive portrayals of disability but then there'd be an even louder and more butt-hurt venom spray from the anti-progressive brigade.

[@patchey8019]

"a world where children with disabilities are consistently shown reflections of themselves in media as evil or bad." - Are you inhaling the same smoke as RTD is or something, since when was that the world we live in? Him and you to a certain extent are imagining a problem where none exist. Fictional characters having hardships is a requirement for good story telling and as Melon pointed out what about all the handicapped heroes like Professor X?

[@jnielson1121]

@@patchey8019 didn't read my reply to melon? There's a difference betweeen having a hardship and a more subtle coding of difference. Like the gay/ queer-coded villain- which you can't deny is totally a thing. I completely agree that there are lots of positive or perhaps "sympathetic" representations of w/c users or disabled people in fiction though even many of those rely on the fact of disability for a trope like the pathos-laden victims of Tiny Tim, the Hunchback of Notre Dame and Frankenstein's monster... but RTS's implication is that the negative stereotypes by far outweigh the positive - he did English at Oxford, I didn't, so I'd defer to him on this and what his being a very successful and savvy media executive. A quick google finds a load of articles on negative potrayals of disability or rather the use of disability as shorthand for tropes of resentment, evil or other villainy. Richard III, Captain Hook, Phantom of the Opera, Darth Vader, Cpatain Ahab, The Meekon and any number of variously disabled James Bond villains... and even in Doctor Who we have Magnus Greel, Sharaz Jek, the Morbius Monster... are all examples of a spectrum of tropse where disability is used as code for something. If you had a child that used a wheelchair would you rather they grew up watching TV/ film in the 1970s or where RTD's practice of including a character like Shirley Bingham (the UNIT scientific advisor) was commonplace? Like I said - this isn't my policy and I don't know but I agree with RTD that these things are subtle and insidious and it takes effort to improve things.

[@ysthafellgynghori8423]

Russell hasn't lost his mind. Unlike his detractors who cannot wait to criticise his new episodes. He made Dr.Who great from 2005 - 2009 and then Moffat came along and wrecked it all. Now its got its mojo back. Get over it ffs.

[@homeaccount5943]

Davies has lost it. Look at the fruitcake Gatwa, He's hired to be the new Doctor...what a joke !

[@crispendaysh3401]

I’m disabled, I liked davros as the darlek sat down it’s ruined it. Also the new 60th anniversary was ok but really annoying, with they them thing put in our faces a lot of the time.