Doctor Who: Hell Bent - Revised Ending

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@harriettubman2717
@harriettubman2717 9 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised they didn't do it like this. Imagine how the internet would have exploded with speculation about Clara's TARDIS.
@therealpbristow
@therealpbristow 8 жыл бұрын
+King of Dunkshire There's something to be said for subtly dropping breadcrumbs, isn't there? I dunno, I like both versions. This one is more "how it went from the Doctor's perspective", and is very effective like that. The other one gives us Clara and Ashildr's perspective, and the obvious "Start writing your fanfics now" gift.
@ValpasKankaristo
@ValpasKankaristo 8 жыл бұрын
+therealpbristow I can think of a few fanfics with Clara and Me... *wink*
@riverorrey3718
@riverorrey3718 8 жыл бұрын
+Valpas Kankaristo YES
@dashfatbastard
@dashfatbastard 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it did, actually:)
@MIMadDogsHC
@MIMadDogsHC 8 жыл бұрын
I hope they release a full version of Clara's theme on electric guitar for the soundtrack. That would be perfect.
@theunderneath
@theunderneath 2 жыл бұрын
they did!!! It's called "Clara's Diner" on the s9 soundtrack album and it's the best thing on there (besides the Shepard's boy obvs)
@quietdemon8138
@quietdemon8138 8 жыл бұрын
The new look with the red velvet coat along the new screwdriver is awesome it's a new chapter for the 12th Doctor
@eladiocofresi5202
@eladiocofresi5202 8 жыл бұрын
I loved the ending to this episode. What I felt with the paint chipping away and the new sonic screwdriver is the end of one chapter, and the beginning of another.
@TheGamesTrain
@TheGamesTrain 8 жыл бұрын
14th*
@JoaoVictor-tn9xg
@JoaoVictor-tn9xg 8 жыл бұрын
12th doctor, 14th body
@kingelder2
@kingelder2 7 жыл бұрын
TheGamesTrain I'm confused how is it 14, I understand the war doctor wanted to forget the war doctor but I'm still only getting 13
@mattmarsh1566
@mattmarsh1566 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Elder tennant had two bodies: two-way biological metacrisis with donna
@hanssavory4088
@hanssavory4088 8 жыл бұрын
That old TARDIS sound effect gave me nostalgia
@tommyr4939
@tommyr4939 3 жыл бұрын
I love that scene of the Doctor walking into the sleeping TARDIS with everything waking up and that satisfying thud as he pulls the materialization lever. So gooood
@Pippland
@Pippland 8 жыл бұрын
I think just removing that small segment of the ending absolutely kept the dramatic ending from Face the Raven intact. That was my main gripe about the episode, in that it indulged itself too much with Clara and Ashildr, when that really should have been left entirely to the viewer's imagination. What ended up happening is pretty much EXACTLY like what happened with Rose - showrunner wrote the character out, but then brought the character back in a later episode to give them a happier ending.
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday 2 жыл бұрын
thing is that Moffat kept doing this with all his companions except Amy and Rory, but Davies only did it once and it actually made sense and was still tragic. It was just happy ever after deus ex machina with both Bill Potts, water girl, Clara and Ashildr being immortal and happy forever ever after, a little boring and removes stakes.
@ginge641
@ginge641 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuineaPigEveryday Yeah, I watched this for the first time recently and holy shit, I was so wanting this to be an actual death. Not a revolving door to the afterlife, not a "technically they're not dead but they're written out of the story forever because of sci fi bullshit that barely holds together" situation AGAIN. That, or just do a Martha and have them leave the TARDIS by walking out the doors. If you're gonna kill companions, just commit to the bit.
@bobdallas4860
@bobdallas4860 Жыл бұрын
​@@GuineaPigEveryday What do you have to say now about Davies doing it only once?
@thedoctor6535
@thedoctor6535 8 жыл бұрын
That diner... it used to be on the other side of the hill.
@RSwizard101vids
@RSwizard101vids 8 жыл бұрын
also that is the same diner they went too when the impossible astronaut killed the doctor
@jennafoley130
@jennafoley130 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, when are you picking me up in the TARDIS? I'm waiting to go time traveling with you
@TimeTravelinc
@TimeTravelinc 5 жыл бұрын
I’m suddenly flashing back to Terry Pratchett’s story “Soul Music” I think, where the Shop owner, after hearing this said, “Whoop, knew I forgot something.” And pulled the lever to make the shop re-appear on the other side of the street.
@oswin1234
@oswin1234 8 жыл бұрын
this is very well edited; you can't see the joins where you've removed the Clara scenes
@oswin1234
@oswin1234 8 жыл бұрын
LIJA4D I think the only thing that would have helped you make it better is if the original footage didn't involve a diner dematerialising around the Doctor...
@aaronjackman4037
@aaronjackman4037 6 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you edited this.
@middleeastmusics6570
@middleeastmusics6570 2 жыл бұрын
@@LIJA4D i really thought this was an alternative ending, damn bro this is an awesome edit
@johnkonrad5040
@johnkonrad5040 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the better ending. The part especially where the diner disappears around the Doctor, and he's left with Clara's mural. Hits home. When you lose someone, it just disappears. You're left with memories. Even the places you open back up aren't ever the same. I get folks dislike Clara's back and forth... But this hits home how she's dead. End to the chapter, forever gone.
@Tulf42
@Tulf42 9 жыл бұрын
I'd rather watch this version. Seeing Clara and Ashildr's Tardis floating round looks weird and wrong. It's too wide and just looks awkward when spinning, it made me think of the house in the tornado of the Wizard of Oz.
@LIJA4D
@LIJA4D 9 жыл бұрын
+Tulf42 Thanks!
@Tulf42
@Tulf42 9 жыл бұрын
+LIJA4D and is it me, but at 0:45 I can hear the regeneration sound effect in the background...?
@LIJA4D
@LIJA4D 9 жыл бұрын
+Tulf42 Actually, that regeneration-sounding noise is not something I added. If you watch the original version, you'll hear it there also.
@Tulf42
@Tulf42 9 жыл бұрын
LIJA4D I thought so!
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 9 жыл бұрын
+Tulf42 Yes of course, because a Police Box is so normal. Like Iris Wildtyhme ship.
@EmeryRain
@EmeryRain 8 жыл бұрын
If I had the money, I would buy that painted tardis.
@ashtonvickers928
@ashtonvickers928 7 жыл бұрын
Emma Rainbow same it's so beautiful especially when you see it up close
@philusschwiftikusreaction
@philusschwiftikusreaction 7 жыл бұрын
If i had the Money i would buy the Gibson SG with Bigsby Vibrato or the Yamaha SGV 800 (Both Guitars from the Doctor)
@rheafonfabre
@rheafonfabre 3 жыл бұрын
On the bright side u can get a pop figure of it
@Mintlicious
@Mintlicious 7 жыл бұрын
Do you want to know why the Ponds' death was so crushing for fans? Because they stayed dead. Most importantly, we had concrete reason to believe they were dead. We see their tombstone, and there's no longer any chance for them to return. When you constantly allow characters to come back after they 'die', viewers no longer feel for characters that die. There's no reason for them to care anymore.
@Windupchronic
@Windupchronic 6 жыл бұрын
But they weren't dead. I mean, technically they were, but only because they lived their lives in the past. They still grew old together. Just as Sally Sparrow's friend did. The Doctor wasn't able to see them any more, but it's as he said in Blink: "Fascinating race, the Weeping Angels. The only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely. No mess, no fuss, they just zap you into the past and let you live to death." I never understood why anyone was crushed by what happened to Amy and Rory. I didn't find it crushing in the slightest. The response seemed completely disproportionate to the event. I mean, the Doctor can't see them anymore, but only because they specifically wrote in something that prevented him from going to their time period because it would blah blah paradox blah blah blah, which never made sense to me, because he and Martha got zapped into 1969, but seemed to have no trouble leaving their situation, but whatever. Honestly, everything Moffat did with the Weeping Angels after Blink was a mess. Amy couldn't even have been taken in that situation to begin with. An angel can't move if any living thing sees it. Amy turns her back. Okay, great. But the Doctor and River can still see the Angel. The Doctor is right there, and the Angel is still visible behind Amy, plus River is off center at an angle. Amy is tall, but the one thing she's not is wide. She cannot block a stone statue with her body from them both. Anyway, I didn't have time to mourn them, because I knew they were at least together, and grew old together, and the whole thing was stupid to begin with, so... no. No mourning from me. Rant over.
@xxLowkeyTrashxx
@xxLowkeyTrashxx 6 жыл бұрын
other stories TRUE
@alphamineron
@alphamineron 6 жыл бұрын
​@@Windupchronic It's sad how you're ignorant but you choose to ignore that fact and take it up as pride. Yes, it was a mess. Not because it didn't make sense but because it was complicated, which isn't the best choice when you want your audience to understand the show but a great choice when your show is aimed at children and can stir their minds into action, trying to understand something complicated even if it might not make any scientific sense. To be fair, in the context of the show, the eleventh doctor did say to Amy that Space & Time will never make any sense, so chill out. Although it's complicated, it makes sense because Amy and Rory saw each other's death (The tombstone with the time details), this was the concept behind the Weeping Angel's Farm, it creates a fixed point in time. The universe does quite fine without time travel, so when Amy & Rory are back in time, there isn't any problem that this fixed point of time will be altered but if someone time travels back and ends up creating a tsunami that alters the fixed point, it can fuck things up at a cosmic level. Ex: The doctor takes Amy to coffee and a car ends up running her over when they were crossing the road. Amy dead before her time would be catastrophic. The Doctor and Martha didn't have any trouble because they weren't time locked into the past. The Angels merely tried to send them back to harvest their remaining energy. If in the "Time of the Doctor", the weeping angels had sent the doctor back in time on trenzalore, I think that would be the end because the doctor had observed his future on Trenzalore in the "Name of the Doctor". Luckily, that didn't happen. There is also that thing that some Angels prefer snapping people's neck to kill time instantly and others sending them back in time to let them live to death...
@Windupchronic
@Windupchronic 6 жыл бұрын
@@alphamineron "It's sad how you're ignorant" Yeah, I stopped there. Work on your sales pitch.
@alphamineron
@alphamineron 6 жыл бұрын
​@@Windupchronic If you need people to "sell" you correct information when you're wrong on a subject, then you got a lot of work to do on your personality. This isn't a sales pitch. Funny how you proved me right... You seem to have so much pride in yourself that you get offended by a someone stating that you're ignorant which is basically a psychological action of denial which occurs when one isn't TRULY CONFIDENT IN ONESELF. If I'm confident about my stand, I'd be wise enough to not get offended by someone who thinks that I'm ignorant because paradoxically, part of being wise is about seeking to understand things from a non-subjective and a subjective viewpoint and always remembering that you may be wrong. Weird how you never got that after watching Doctor Who, maybe you watched it strictly as entertainment. *You might have great sales skills but for a truly successful career, wisdom is more important than any skill or form of intelligence.* EDIT: Now I did that beginning on purpose, I think "ignorance" isn't an insult. On the contrary, something like "you're an idiot" seems like an insult. I guess I underestimated
@FacePimpd
@FacePimpd 9 жыл бұрын
It's a tidy edit but I prefer the more optimistic ending. Wiggle room (yet, more fun for Big Finish) and a flying Diner, straight out a Douglas Adams novel.
@Necrodius
@Necrodius 8 жыл бұрын
+__davidmb Or a time traveling diner, straight out of a Stephen King novel #cough 11/22/63 #cough
@vinceandlilly
@vinceandlilly 8 жыл бұрын
+__davidmb Yeah, the Starship Bistromath :D
@kyguy3242
@kyguy3242 7 жыл бұрын
This is the only finale ending, so far, that could have ended the show well. When the Doctor walks into the Tardis, the epic music starts playing, he gets the new sonic screwdriver, and flies away into space inside his police box, it all just works so well. When they do end the show, I hope it will be in a similar way to this.
@ThatLegoGuy-10140
@ThatLegoGuy-10140 3 ай бұрын
7 year old comment, but the show is ending with the Curator,or being cancelled before that. Any other option is unacceptable
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 7 жыл бұрын
Soo much better. The pacing here works so well. I can actually feel the build up when he enters the TARDIS.
@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489
@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489 9 жыл бұрын
I never really liked Clara's ending. I would've love a heart-wrenching scene where the Doctor had to give up Clara to save the Universe from disaster, admitting he had gone too far and Clara saying goodbye, with tears in her eyes. That would've been a good ending to Clara's story. If you want a companion exit, go Doomsday style. Make people cry a little (or a lot) every time. But, as it stands, I'm dissatisfied, but not unhappy with Clara's ending. I find it too ridiculous. But, I think it still could've been much, much worse.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 9 жыл бұрын
+Trenton Bless (Wrestlemania489) The problem is that "Doomsday" style is over used, especially the end of the Ponds. So the end of Clara feels fresh and original.
@CrimeAndCrepeFan
@CrimeAndCrepeFan 9 жыл бұрын
+Mayo Tango131 I personally think they should have ended her storyline with her death. We didn't have any companions die on NewWho (I don't know about classical)
@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489
@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489 9 жыл бұрын
A few companions died in Classic Who.
@rrozinak
@rrozinak 9 жыл бұрын
+CrimeAndCrepeFan Fear the raven should've been her last episode. I wouldn't mind her appearing in flashbacks or in Doctor's head but she shoul've stayed dead. Hell bent should've been about the Doctor, Ashildr, Missy or it should've introduced a new chracter (new companion or angagonist from series 10).
@rrozinak
@rrozinak 9 жыл бұрын
MaddoxProductions1 Yeah, that was horrible too. S04 finale was awful.
@WhovianRoxas
@WhovianRoxas 9 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the original ending but, don't worry, I'm not offended by this. :) I can understand why people would prefer Clara's departure in "Face the Raven" and we're all entitled to our own opinions. I personally found Clara's ultimate departure to be incredibly satisfying with my only complaint being the cheesy effects of the diner TARDIS flying through space.
@AluxDoesNotStream
@AluxDoesNotStream 9 жыл бұрын
+Whovian Roxas I feel like the TARDINER is really dumb. While I do like the idea that Clara continued to interfere with The Doctor's past even after she stepped into his time stream, it's a setting that doesn't really fit very well with the rest of the episode. It did do a good job of presenting the story of Hell Bent like a true adventure written in legend which is a wonderful change from the norm. However, this could have been done around a campfire on a Coathill High school trip or he could have written it all down and read it out at a library to kids or something that didn't have to include a setting so far removed from (British) norm and/or from where the story itself took place. But nothing can possibly be perfect and it's Doctor Who, so I forgive it. :)
@markc4008
@markc4008 9 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Nisbet Actually I think it kinda DID need to be somewhere far removed from the British norm. Part of the twist that it was the Doctor losing his memory was based on the assumption that Clara in the diner was leading a completely different life. It sets it up for us to think that Clara had lost her memory, only to pull the rug out from under us.
@AluxDoesNotStream
@AluxDoesNotStream 9 жыл бұрын
***** Clara didn't need specifically to be a waitress in a 1950s American diner to achieve that. That's like saying that the TARDIS needed to be a blue police box in An Unearthly Child in order for the alien concept of impossible space to be conveyed. Other things could be done to achieve the same thing, and in the case of Hell Bent, I think that using a more familiar, everyday location would have made the jumps between depicting Gallifrey and depicting The Doctor telling that story from after he's lived it less jarring. My other problem would have to be how the structure of the episode makes the appearance of Gallifrey feel less significant. Whenever the Time Lords appear in any episode of Doctor Who, I feel like they should completely dominate the presentation. In The End of Time, they are introduced as an end-part plot twist. The entirety of the second part is dedicated to every other character learning about the Time Lords coming back and going "This is bigger than The Master and this is bigger than Earth.". They overshadow every single consequence introduced in the previous part and the key scene of the episode is a Time Lord stand-off. Additionally, the Time Lords' exit from the story also marks the end of every single form of conflict in the episode. From the very first moment to when all conflict is resolved, the Time Lords dominate the plot, which makes them not only feel significant in the grant scheme, but actually does make them the most important piece of the story. Heaven Sent ends with the same Gallifrey plot twist, however this is where the similarities with The End of Time stop. In Hell Bent, instead of the Time Lords dominating the presentation, it's The Doctor who does this. He is the source of every conflict in the episode and only when he is subdued by the memory wipe is all conflict resolved. While they are present throughout the story until The Doctor runs away again, they do not present a threat to The Doctor. Things are instead reversed with The Doctor breaking all his own rules to take over Gallifrey and get Clara back. Also, the key scene in the stolen Time Capsule contains no Time Lords (The Doctor doesn't count as a Time Lord in presentation because he is a different sort of man). Instead, the key scene consists of the revelation of Clara's inevitable demise and a stand-off between her and The Doctor to see who the memory wipe was used on. The Time Lords by this point have been entire removed from the conflict. As a result of their lack of dominance over the presentation, I feel that their presence is undermined somewhat. This and the repeated removal from the conflict by the narration scenes at the diner that completely removes all tension from the previous scene. I don't dislike Heaven Sent/Hell Bent, in fact I think it was the perfect way for The Doctor to arrive back on Gallifrey: mourning and ready to light a fire underneath his own people. I just feel that the episode wasn't perfect, and that the above is the reason. I want to see the Cloister Wraiths come back with a bit more bite. :)
@markc4008
@markc4008 9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Nisbet TBH somewhere like Coal Hill - somewhere bleak and dreary - would be even more jarring! The diner gives us a lot of colour depth and good cinematography. Somewhere like Coal Hill would make it infinitely more complicated. The point of the diner, the point of Clara being there, making us believe her to have had her memory completely wiped and living a new life, trumps any personal preference, because it's part of the storytelling and structure. As for the Time Lords/Gallifrey, again it comes down to personal preference. The story was never ABOUT them. The End of Time (which honestly I despise for the fact RTD didn't actually have the balls to bring them back) was ABOUT the Time Lords. This story was always about the Doctor and Clara. Why would it focus on something that's just a vessel to tell the story? Honestly it does just seem like personal preference. The issues you have with it - if removed in the case of the cutaway scenes or expanded in the case of Gallifrey - would change entirely the tone and subject of the episode completely.
@AluxDoesNotStream
@AluxDoesNotStream 9 жыл бұрын
***** I really don't see what about the 1950s American diner setting specifically tells the audience that Clara has lost her memory. In fact at first, the entire setup made me think that the two of them had decided to remain separated from each other. That's what making Clara an integral component of such a radically unfamiliar setting did. The setting of Coat Hill wouldn't be boring the audience because of the cliffhanger we were left with. Look back at The Caretaker and you'll see that they did a very good job of making Coat Hill look colourful and interesting with all the flags on string hanging from the ceiling and set pieces like the giant chess board. The point of the diner wasn't really to suggest that Clara's life is different because that's immediately obvious the moment The Doctor walks inside. The point is more to convey that Clara is alive and living without The Doctor. I will admit that the concern about the use of the Time Lords is mostly down to my personal preference. But after The Day of the Doctor, the hunt for Gallifrey was being portrayed as The Doctor's entire driving force. It made me expect that The Doctor would be spending multiple regenerations trying to find Gallifrey. So when he just ended up there at the end of Heaven Sent, the moment felt very limp. "Oh. He found it." was my reaction, when it should have been "Oh my god, it's Gallifrey! Woah! WOAH!". You are very correct that the point of Heaven Sent/Hell Bent was to focus intimately on The Doctor and Clara's close relationship, and what The Doctor would be willing to do to get her back. Which is why I think that the return of Gallifrey and the use of the Time Lords could easily have been saved for a later point, where they can become the focus of a story. To see the entire 50th Anniversary setup culminate in a single plot twist and become an unfocused element of a companion exit is extremely disappointing. I understand that my preferences would have changed the tone of the episode, but the tone is what I thought was wrong. It didn't feel like I was watching a finale, it felt like I was watching a heavy season opener or one of the Christmas specials that is as far removed from the concept of Christmas as possible (The Time of the Doctor). I don't disagree with the subject, I just disagree with the use of Gallifrey to float it on.
@connorgoddard971
@connorgoddard971 9 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely Love this version more! More dramatic and ends Clara's time more definitely than seeing her fly off.
@Domihork
@Domihork 8 жыл бұрын
When your characters always die and come back, then if they die for real, no one will take it seriously - I've heard this multiple times And this happened to me. When Clara died in Face the Raven, I felt nothing... I couldn't care less... Because although I avoided all spoilers and trailers, I just knew she'd come back. And I'm actually angry at Moffat for messing this up for me, because I like being emotional when characters die, but now I can't, because I just don't care anymore... Maybe with Chibnall it will be different, who knows.
@lightdark00
@lightdark00 8 жыл бұрын
I adore Clara, and felt it each time. Easily empathizing with her always. Can't do the same for black people, so Bill's time as the companion will be a let down. It was the same for Donna and Martha actually. Martha finally seemed decent in the Utopia and Sound of Drums stories, while Donna only seemed decent in the lasting memory that she lost all the memories.
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 8 жыл бұрын
The Clara-Pink storyline made me hate her for some reason. I loved her in everything up until then. Then they made her a Mary Sue
@SpetsnazUS
@SpetsnazUS 8 жыл бұрын
You can't empathize with black people? That sounds like a psychological condition. :\
@erbsmen
@erbsmen 8 жыл бұрын
lightdark00 you're a fucking idiot, you know that right?
@SpetsnazUS
@SpetsnazUS 8 жыл бұрын
lightdark00 I too am unsure as to what has changed some people into what they have become. In my case, however, it is your cynical nature that alludes me. I wish you peace and hope that you will see the world with a new perspective someday.
@NotInTheBox
@NotInTheBox 8 жыл бұрын
If you go to 0:47 then there's the regeneration sound effect if you listen closely..
@srmcd1
@srmcd1 8 жыл бұрын
I play this whenever something bad happens to me to remind me that it's important to move on.
@stephaniepotter5999
@stephaniepotter5999 Жыл бұрын
The TARDIS is covered in roses 🌹
@maddylomas
@maddylomas 8 жыл бұрын
Oh what a fancy screwdriver! We all know what that means.... :cough: Day of the Doctor totally subtle quote that nobody will ever notice :cough:.
@j0doe1
@j0doe1 8 жыл бұрын
Regeneration, it's a lottery.
@avisitorhere
@avisitorhere 10 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking! Nice job editing, its seemless.
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 8 жыл бұрын
I still think that he remembers but faked it to let her go
@Joseph-uo3mx
@Joseph-uo3mx 3 ай бұрын
One of Moffats problems was always showing to much or explaining every detail of everything, when it just didn't need it. Bills ending is exactly the same, we didn't need to see her and water girl in the Tardis. A better ending would have been after they kiss, cyberbill falls down dead and they're both gone. Is she dead or not, idk leave it up to the fans to figure it out.
@clearingouttheclutter
@clearingouttheclutter 7 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful version. Thank you.
@tweakn5265
@tweakn5265 8 жыл бұрын
what i get from this is the doctor will see clara again. she got her own tardis now!
@admirnaruto
@admirnaruto 8 жыл бұрын
They might bring Clara back from time to time, but not because she has a TARDIS, no because she is the impossible girl. She entered the doctors time stream in the name of the doctor, that means the doctor will see some version of her.
@epoch7661
@epoch7661 6 жыл бұрын
You say this like it's good news.
@FortoFight
@FortoFight 5 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt it now that Moffat is gone, but he probably would've had a Diner Clara cameo at some point otherwise. He's depressingly predictable like that.
@johnathanmelo6035
@johnathanmelo6035 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I loved this scene in particular. With The Doctor stepping inside the TARDIS, looking around, still a tad bit confused, and the TARDIS humming to life softly as if she were saying "Welcome home". Not in the sense of the way she usually would, but moreso as a way of saying "Welcome *back*, my thief. You're finally back to how you always were." Just the Time Lord and his box, gallivanting around Space/Time, as it always was.
@kennedylehane6562
@kennedylehane6562 8 жыл бұрын
I prefered her death. I loved Clara, and I thought she was a great companion. And a great companion needs a great exit, like her death. It was beautiful, and at least she said goodbye. I guess this one is good for people who "don't like endings." Let's remember it's not really goodbye unless the word is said.
@Brian-du1tn
@Brian-du1tn 9 жыл бұрын
This is a way better version to watch. I can't believe that Doctor Who can't keep a person dead except for Amelia and Rory basically... I kinda wanted the Doctor to suffer on Clara's death... Anyways, this edit was pretty good and pretty satisfying.
@kurthopkins6892
@kurthopkins6892 8 жыл бұрын
I thought the original one was okay but I like this one a bit better as it is slightly more ambiguous about Clara and Ashildr's future.
@doctorzelda756
@doctorzelda756 7 жыл бұрын
this is amazing the best fan made edit i've seen ever!
@delbaethmidir3533
@delbaethmidir3533 9 жыл бұрын
It just kind of leaves you wondering "What happened to Clara and Ashildr?" as if it ended like this they would have just disappeared. I like the original ending because it explains what Clara and Ashildr are doing, but it also makes it clear that Clara's death in Face the Raven still happens, thus preventing it from being ruined.
@kkuja78
@kkuja78 8 жыл бұрын
+Danny O'Gara Actually, for me original ending averted Clara's deat and put him in path of having wacky adventures with Me (IMO one of the worst characters ever in nu who), taking the long way back. And off topic, IMO one of the largest failure of Moffat is his love for his characters and inability to let them die except for old age (Amy & Rory). (River Song was nearest to actually dying, but even she managed to kind of avoid it). I don't want GRR Martin typed carnage, but undermining character deaths is kind of banal. (Death can have huge dramatic impact in drama when used correctly, and IMO in revived Who it hasn't been ever used correctly.) Everything I said is IMO, and I claim nothing of it being any kind of truth.
@johnrobinson3382
@johnrobinson3382 8 жыл бұрын
+kkuja78 River is dead. I know the doctor saved her to the Library data core but that's more like a heaven type place hence why all the other members of her team who died in the two parter are there.
@施雅純-t6m
@施雅純-t6m 7 жыл бұрын
This editing is a lot neat and better to me. You nailed it. Congrats!
@dazlovescarter
@dazlovescarter 7 жыл бұрын
if im honest the revised ending should have been clara going back to her death, she cant escape it as she is dead and her time was over
@solitarywanderersw7394
@solitarywanderersw7394 8 жыл бұрын
When people moan about the flying diner, people probably said the same about the flying police box when Doctor Who first started. Also I absolutely loved Hell Bent and though it was one of the best finales ever!
@maddieh6093
@maddieh6093 8 жыл бұрын
Oh umm well I guess you're entitled to your very unpopular opinion
@Mypetdalek
@Mypetdalek 8 жыл бұрын
The difference being that the Tardis is a core concept of the show.
@tonyparker7349
@tonyparker7349 8 жыл бұрын
It's not about the concept, it's about the context.
@timjohnson9530
@timjohnson9530 8 жыл бұрын
TBH I dont think it deserves the hate it gets; it reminded me of A Good Man Goes to War but I am a little tired of companions getting happy endings. Amy and Rory got out and lived their lives, Clara became immortal essentially.. I honestly cant think of the last companion that straight up died (except Handles)
@raxxial
@raxxial 8 жыл бұрын
That would be Adric
@AaronHujibob
@AaronHujibob 9 жыл бұрын
Much better version, well done!
@LIJA4D
@LIJA4D 9 жыл бұрын
+Aaron Fraser Thank you very much! If you enjoyed it, feel free to share it!
@gregx5096
@gregx5096 8 жыл бұрын
First I wondered why anyone would cut those bits, but now that I've seen it ... ...not bad. At all. Good work.
@corbinhoevers
@corbinhoevers 3 жыл бұрын
His expressions after the diner dematerializes are heartbreaking.
@turtlewrenandbee
@turtlewrenandbee 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, this was just beautiful! This is now the real ending; absolutely positively the really true end. The original ending doesn't really call up any emotions, but yours actually brought tears to me eyes ♡
@dantes939
@dantes939 7 жыл бұрын
Less Clara, the better. I love what you did here. Well done.
@salambard
@salambard 8 жыл бұрын
That Screwdriver looks like what you can find in old Bionicle boxes..
@KevinAgoncillo
@KevinAgoncillo 8 жыл бұрын
Who else is in love with his new Screw Driver?!?! @____@ I AM SO INTO IT!!!
@anabanana62787
@anabanana62787 8 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT! Love the blue with the gold
@thehybrid210
@thehybrid210 8 жыл бұрын
me too!!!
@astroarda
@astroarda 8 жыл бұрын
All the farewells are sad but i can't forget this company..
@avamendez1272
@avamendez1272 7 жыл бұрын
as the diner dematerialized, it all became clear. i believe the Doctor's memory was restored the moment he entered his own Tardis. he was at peace knowing Clara was alive and his plan successful. he was no longer 'hell bent' and free to move on💖
@maddiev8855
@maddiev8855 8 жыл бұрын
This is so sad it made me cry so hard when I watched this😭😭😭😭😭
@adamlackseverything
@adamlackseverything 5 жыл бұрын
She should have written "Run you clever boy and forget"
@Mrsjacktheripper09
@Mrsjacktheripper09 6 жыл бұрын
I like how the TARDIS light up when the Doctor open the door. It's like she's saying "Welcome back."
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 4 жыл бұрын
if you listen you can hear her talking
@halfwayoutofthedark8
@halfwayoutofthedark8 9 жыл бұрын
I like this version. Good work. ♥
@winteralf7300
@winteralf7300 4 жыл бұрын
The doctor : why the hell is there a painting of that bartender on my TARDIS!
@caulifloodle
@caulifloodle 9 жыл бұрын
I like the sentiment of wanting to tidy up the ending so it doesn't mess with Face the Raven, as I'm not a fan of the episode's over-the-top ending for Clara, and your editing is so clean that I didn't even realize what was being cut until the video was over. But, I have to ask, how does this improve things? At least in the official ending we know that she eventually went back to Gallifrey. In this cut, we're left with no idea where she went or what's going to happen to her. This ending leaves an even bigger loose end for her storyline than the official one.
@caulifloodle
@caulifloodle 9 жыл бұрын
That said, I guess any ending without a huge 1950s-diner-TARDIS flying through space because its chameleon circuit broke for literally no reason has to be some kind of an improvement.
@s02229
@s02229 9 жыл бұрын
+Eric Coppes except maybe just maybe , when she went back to Gallifrey to die, she tells the first doctor to still her broken one
@DustMediaYT
@DustMediaYT 9 жыл бұрын
+iiAtomicPizza it's not stuck. Clara and Ahildr just didn't quite work out how it works yet
@einezcrespo
@einezcrespo 9 жыл бұрын
+iiAtomicPizza ASHILDR: I don't think I've got the Chameleon circuit working. The outer shell might be stuck as an American Diner.
@einezcrespo
@einezcrespo 9 жыл бұрын
***** "Properly," isn't even in the original quote. I checked. Ashildr also said it MIGHT be stuck. If The Doctor was able to fix the chameleon circuit temporarily in Attack of The Cybermen, why couldn't Ashildr? Why else would she be consulting the TARDIS manual? As Dustin says they haven't quite worked it out yet. Clara's awesome was more of an okiedokie. She doesn't want to deal with it.
@goodguystv3861
@goodguystv3861 8 жыл бұрын
I cry every time I watch this episode...
@theunderneath
@theunderneath 2 жыл бұрын
I headcanon that that was actually one of the clara echoes there to support him through his grief.
@zlee001
@zlee001 4 жыл бұрын
The best good bye episode of a companion ever.
@quantum3325
@quantum3325 5 жыл бұрын
I've never once seen anyone mention the fact that the set used for the Diner is the same one from the tracy beaker movie, and I've never felt so alone Haha
@ashtonvickers928
@ashtonvickers928 7 жыл бұрын
I've actually been to that dinner it's really nice, just across from the doctor who experience in Cardiff
@artifexvigen
@artifexvigen 5 жыл бұрын
Oh God the door to the interior is a fricking guys and dolls reference
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 2 жыл бұрын
Clara and Ashildr's TARDIS. I would like to see a whole show based on that.
@TheMineForge
@TheMineForge 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember that this is one of the resturants in 11th doctor
@angerydestroyer
@angerydestroyer Жыл бұрын
Doctor be like : wtf was that a. Waittt..*finds his TARDIS*
@sabertooth_shark8374
@sabertooth_shark8374 3 жыл бұрын
I AM LOVING IT
@LIJA4D
@LIJA4D 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RetroActiveGM
@RetroActiveGM 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. They should hire you to cut the crap from the main show.
@nitro5247
@nitro5247 6 жыл бұрын
I interpret it as the diner Tardis dematerializing represents Clara being gone, and what he saw was just a dream/hallucination.
@nitro5247
@nitro5247 6 жыл бұрын
And by the Doctors departure as moving on
@thehappybigfoot8896
@thehappybigfoot8896 8 жыл бұрын
2:35 Star Wars Episode 6: Return of the Jedi. anyone catch that little reference
@BarryAllen..
@BarryAllen.. 8 жыл бұрын
Or did he just forget that she was apart of his adventures, like forgetting you had a sister.
@dagger1345
@dagger1345 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think this is fantastic. It leaves the viewer to believe Clara went back to the point of her death, at the end.
@marosa1801
@marosa1801 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to believe she crash landed into the Dalek Asylum and got converted…
@Wrangler-fp4ei
@Wrangler-fp4ei 3 жыл бұрын
Wish they had did a mini-series with Clara & her companion trip, least one leg of it.
@GrimmWF
@GrimmWF 6 жыл бұрын
i likw how the end goes againt what we know. dirty stays on the tardis. the time war tardis is covered in dirt and burn marks. and when badwolf gets painted on it in season 1 of new who it has to be washed off
@SpikePowers
@SpikePowers 6 жыл бұрын
Flawless job editing this, I couldn't tell what was different till I read the description. Personally I loved Hell bent and thought Heaven Sent was overated and both hell bent endings are amazing
@PetePierce
@PetePierce 9 жыл бұрын
Wow this was sooooo much better. To be honest the whole Clara/Ashildr/Cafe Tardis thing worries me. Think your version draws a nice line under that storyline and series 9. Well done.
@kingbeauregard
@kingbeauregard 6 жыл бұрын
Another revised ending: the Doctor opens the TARDIS doors, "You got the dud", the Doctor smiles.
@coolbeans8465
@coolbeans8465 9 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for the original ending .what I found was even better.
@swackstudios5349
@swackstudios5349 8 жыл бұрын
The Doctor returns 😁😁
@einezcrespo
@einezcrespo 9 жыл бұрын
Good editing but taking out Clara and Ashildr's scene left a big hole. It doesn't really feel right and its lacking. Just my opinion and no not offended with this version.
@novakatewatkinson
@novakatewatkinson 4 жыл бұрын
Clara was one of my favourite companions but I had a big issue with her coming back and here’s why: she wanted to be the doctor or become like the doctor and we see this grow over her seasons. This is why her death is so great because it shows that you can be like the doctor but it comes with consequences (like it did for Donna) and when she came back, it made all that character development and her sacrifice for nothing. I loved Clara but I wish they allowed the character to stay dead. Her death was so fitting and there was nothing wrong with it. But that’s just my opinion...
@Infernalicon
@Infernalicon 8 жыл бұрын
the doctor Needs to Forget Clara so we best put a photo of her on the tardis,its not like it will spring his curiosity into finding out who that is
@tlr8108
@tlr8108 8 жыл бұрын
So paper and paint can't time travel
@BanditLeader
@BanditLeader 8 жыл бұрын
the tardis removes everything from its exterior that isn't a part of the tardis. it's to prevent debris being in the time vortex.
@doctor99267
@doctor99267 8 жыл бұрын
Bandit Leader then how did jack ride the tardis to the end of the universe
@BanditLeader
@BanditLeader 8 жыл бұрын
doctor99268 the tardis doesnt remove living beings that it knows
@autumn_breeze616
@autumn_breeze616 8 жыл бұрын
So why is it that there's a scene where The Doctor, Amy and Rory paint the TARDIS a new shade of blue? Plot holes, I know.
@BanditLeader
@BanditLeader 8 жыл бұрын
Adam-Matic Gaming Because thats not canon. it wasnt in the main series, therefore it isnt canon
@jamie.k3139
@jamie.k3139 7 жыл бұрын
personally I like this one better knowing that clara is still alive thinking of the doctor rather then have her die in face the raven
@asavyshepherd98
@asavyshepherd98 8 жыл бұрын
Where can I get this music is it on iTunes ?
@LIJA4D
@LIJA4D 8 жыл бұрын
At least to my understanding, the music has unfortunately not been released yet.
@CrispyPancakes450
@CrispyPancakes450 8 жыл бұрын
I love when the TARDIS started up
@hawhawjepers8274
@hawhawjepers8274 6 жыл бұрын
Weird thinking how she is now going to go through and see where he's really from, what he's been through, how long he has been traveling, lives he's lived, impossible girl c lever boy
@BarryAllen..
@BarryAllen.. 8 жыл бұрын
wait, if he forgot her, then he should still think he looks life Matt smith right? If so, then he must not know he has another 10 lives due to the reset given by the timelords from the crack in the wall. "PLOT HOLES"
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 8 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think the whole episode undid Face the Raven. Although it was a very emotional episode, I felt like it did Clara justice. I was angry when the Ponds died (or got trapped in the past) not just because they were gone but also because the Doctor seemed to hardly be affected by it at all. Clara just swooped in and took their place as if they had never even been there. But this time, we got to see 12's rage and emotions, something that continued into the next episode a bit. I'm glad Moffat fixed his mistake this time. ...But then he fixed it too far. The last episode was pointless. For starters, returning to Gallifrey and the subject of the Hybrid both had huge potential, but were simply glanced by. Secondly, if we've already cried over Clara and coped with her loss, please don't bring her back only to pull her away again. Geez, now I know how she felt when she lost Danny. It's cruel to give false hope and then cut it in the bud thirty minutes later.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 8 жыл бұрын
Finally, it undid the events from Face the Raven, which did a much better job anyway at saying goodbye to Clara. This finale felt very out-of-place with an otherwise perfect season.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 8 жыл бұрын
+Karl Hiramanek I saw the episode and Capaldi's performance seems false or winless effort, while Matt cried and exile in a cloud.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 8 жыл бұрын
Mayo Tango131 Yeah. And that was it. He sort of teared up for like a minute while Amy read her last words and then never mentions the Ponds again until Hell Bent (ironically.) He even treated River like a stranger in the Name of the Doctor. That was like the last straw for me. This time, we saw the rage of the Doctor and just how far he was willing to go for the companions he loves. And then they continue on that in Heaven Sent, and we see how he can't operate or think without her. So he pretends that he's still with her in the Tardis. We see it take him literally billions of years to move on.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 8 жыл бұрын
Karl Hiramanek That's why I dislike Capaldi, is mentally damaged, an emotional cripple. The Eleventh Doctor is more independent and mature, as the Fourth or Seventh Doctors. People to see, places to visit. Remember that River was a ghost in that episode, and the Doctor hurt him see her like this. Hell Bent could be a great episode for the return of the Time Lords, but ended up being another Clara-Who episode.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 8 жыл бұрын
Mayo Tango131 I agree it wasn't a good episode. I'm talking about Heaven Sent and Face the Raven. Those were masterpieces. As for 11, he was just as emotional. He raised an entire army to rescue Amy. It's just that Moffat's writing was poor during Season 7, so the characters did things out of character- like Amy and Rory divorcing. It makes no sense and was a pointless subplot. The Doctor gave so much importance to the Ponds, especially in the episode before (the power of three), and then the episode after he was completely heartless. It was just inconsistent.
@1122289
@1122289 8 жыл бұрын
I love Clara, and prefer this version... because is more subtle (not because less Clara)
@TheWAQProductions
@TheWAQProductions 9 жыл бұрын
Nice Version!!!
@pacitticlubjohnny2238
@pacitticlubjohnny2238 8 жыл бұрын
MUCH BETTER! could we have a version where the cafe explodes instead?
@Marco199977
@Marco199977 8 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what chords/strings is the Doctor playing at 0:43 to 0:50?
@sineadoreilly1569
@sineadoreilly1569 6 жыл бұрын
this is amazing
@TheCrazyCastle
@TheCrazyCastle 8 жыл бұрын
I'm super offended by this! Great edit! 😊
@FranciumBoron
@FranciumBoron 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder where Clara went off to, because for Series 10, the new companion actress is Pearl Mackie.
@musicOrator
@musicOrator 8 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I have with Moffat's ending is that Clara is essentially, and knowingly, risking reality/the universe/time. Yeah, sure, as long as she eventually gets back to Gallifrey safe and sound, the universe will be fine, but the more she travels en route, the more likely it is that she'll accidentally die before she even gets back, making it impossible to fulfill her fixed-point death on Trap Street. It's one thing for Clara to throw caution overboard when it's only her life at stake - we know she's comfortable with that. It's another thing entirely for her to so heavily risk the entire universe's well-being, and honestly I don't think she would. I understand why Moffat wrote it this way - so that viewers could have a "happy" ending for her and to complete the arc of her becoming the Doctor's equal - and perhaps to allow Jenna Coleman to be there for Peter Capaldi's final episode. But for Clara to cling to such a dangerous and long semi-resurrection really undermines her character and her gorgeous goodbye on Trap Street.
@theoutcastboi
@theoutcastboi 7 жыл бұрын
She's immortal now. Well, until she returns to her death... In about a million years time.
@shanedaley6236
@shanedaley6236 7 жыл бұрын
I like the ending one she's immortal so at some point she will go back but right now she wants to have fun go to all the worlds out there and see what else has she not seen still a vary sad ending in face the raven because we know it will happen or has happened time travel lol just like river song we knew some how she had to get the screwdriver and on there last day together makes sense
@theoutcastboi
@theoutcastboi 7 жыл бұрын
Face the Raven's death does happen, true, but it is devalued by the dumb immortal with a TARDIS ending. Clara can now potentially live long than the average human which renders the original tragic natural of her death meaningless, because the tragedy comes from the fact her life was cut short. Now she gets a full life plus her own TARDIS. It is utter ________ and renders the entire death useless. This is why I and other people are rightly annoyed with Clara's fate. She dies in an inescapable situation, but then, somewhat inevitably, she is pratically resurrected and ends up with a far better deal than most NuWho companions.
@Saladfork1929
@Saladfork1929 6 жыл бұрын
@@theoutcastboi i like this ending but i had a better idea for trap street death. She does it all... but she gives the doctor her souffle recipe and says to start baking them.
@renji90998
@renji90998 8 жыл бұрын
If you have a tardis what would you disguise it as besides a police box
@BeowulfNorther
@BeowulfNorther 8 жыл бұрын
renji90998 well in the doctors wife you see a shit ton of TARDIS's looking like starships and cruisers and random buildings
@renji90998
@renji90998 8 жыл бұрын
+Hadley Souther yes but but what would your tardis look like
@doctor99267
@doctor99267 8 жыл бұрын
renji90998 basically the tardis has something called a chameleon circuit which disguises the tardis as something relevant to that particular location /time and when the doctor went to 1960 or something like that where there was police boxes around the chameleon circuit broke and left the tardis stuck as a police box the doctor has said he could always fix it but he doesn't want to
@renji90998
@renji90998 8 жыл бұрын
doctor99268 I know all that I'm asking people if they had a tardis what they want it to look like
@ShadowtheRonin
@ShadowtheRonin 8 жыл бұрын
A shed. I'd land in the gardens of people that don't have sheds, and the perception filter would make the owners think, "Oh yeah, we've always had a shed," but not go into it because they don't remember ever having anything in it.
@grahamking4815
@grahamking4815 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I love it.
@marzs4416
@marzs4416 8 жыл бұрын
hell bent was good and it really made me cry, but heaven sent... GOD, that was just divine
@LaurenceDavidJones
@LaurenceDavidJones 9 жыл бұрын
So much better! It's how it should have been. This is canon in my head from now on.
@TheVoidOfWhatever
@TheVoidOfWhatever 9 жыл бұрын
This ending definitely suits me better.
@FireFalcon
@FireFalcon 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely packed more of a punch than i remembered. Obviously its because its recut but dang
@refsmithy
@refsmithy 8 жыл бұрын
I preferred the original ending, but this is beautifully and seamlessly edited and it's definitely a very poignant ending for Clara's character and I can really see why people might prefer your version.
@JustMeAgain00
@JustMeAgain00 8 жыл бұрын
refsmithy the original ending was a little weird for me and I think that this one matches better 😱
@refsmithy
@refsmithy 8 жыл бұрын
And thats why I said that I could understand that people prefer this one :) I think the first ending was weird too, but if I didn't like a bit of weird I would've stopped watching the show years ago! Either ending is fine if you ask me, and I could've quite happily accepted the modified one if it had been in the episode that aired :)
@strataseeker2981
@strataseeker2981 8 жыл бұрын
I feel this to be a significant improvement. The ending as is left a bad taste in my mouth, as I wanted this chapter more firmly closed up. Well done!
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