DOCTOR WHO: HELL BENT SCENE: 'How Long?'

On Gallifrey, the Doctor and Clara try to escape the grasp of the Time Lords. The Newly regenerated General and Ohila of the Sisterhood Of Karn watch as Clara pries answers out of the Doctor.
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[@mickeyscratcher]

Clara: "4 and a half billion years ?" The Doctor: ".....If she says so" Epic.

[@LordTelperion]

It was only a couple weeks for each iteration.

[@randomlyable2015]

That's like what 100years to him tho as an imortal

[@syweb2]

@@randomlyable2015 He wasn't conscious for all of it - or rather, he only experienced a couple weeks of it, as he essentially died and created a new version of himself using a teleporter every couple of weeks.

[@crrd1528]

@@syweb2 He remembers all of them after though

[@lorddiaceliumchauffeurdeta211]

@@syweb2Time Lords are telepathic, he has the memories of his other selves, he says in Heaven Sent he remembers every time.

[@FacePimpd]

“I had a duty of care” oh my god, the way he delivers that is soul destroying! Anguish, pain and suffering and love and sorrow and ugh! Capaldi is such a hugely under appreciated gem of an actor and we were so bloody lucky to have him AND Jenna share scenes like this together.

[@ryanLikesRainyDays]

__davidmb Yup.

[@kingbeauregard]

One more thing about his reply: there's a note of, he can't comprehend why anyone would even think letting her stay dead was an option. That's how much she means to him: he cannot even imagine a universe without her.

[@szabolcsmolnar4455]

How far he's come from "She's my carer - she cares so I don't have to."

[@andrewfallon3998]

I was a massive 11 and Amy fan... But these two are just breathtaking together.

[@mercydraper8959]

This is too true 👍

[@jasonknight8581]

Clara: Four and a half billion years?!! The Doctor: I was fine. I had a crossword puzzle book.

[@bananasenpai1570]

Clara: *Understandable, have a great day*

[@boredboi3064]

😂 😂 😂

[@dillon8124]

@Kaagh178 the star difference in the universe let him know

[@nowhereman6360]

@Kaagh178 He always knew at the end. Again and again. And since a TimeLord can extrapolate that is some build up tension. Great episode(s).

[@souffrey]

"I had a duty of care" aka "I love you"

[@peace7642]

Miamelya for reeeeeall thoo

[@kompissanu1983]

Thank you, he can’t come out and say it

[@Cheezeblade]

1:20 This... fuckin .. killed me.. That is the most amount of tears in a persons eyes without a tear actually falling. To quote the doctor "HOW do you even do that with your eyes"

[@Ladco77]

As amazing as that part is, look at her expression when she hears "4 and half billion years." Her face hardly changes at all, but you can see in her eyes she didn't hear anything said after that - she was so stunned. So subtle, and then how she turns away and hesitates half-way before turning to face the Doctor.

[@haninasayegh7623]

Yes one of the saddest line delivery and acting

[@kevincarroll5511]

They really loved each other so much. This scene is still devastating.

[@angelicacutajar8455]

The reason why I love Clara and the 12 so much... their bond together made them the ultimate creature... the Hybrid....

[@Nulono]

Rory didn't reset every month.

[@Inactive968]

Do you think there is some romantic love between them?

[@filmwoodmedia]

ryanLikesRainyDays it wouldn’t say it’s romantic love, it’s more comrade love, like with a close friend or a pet.

[@Impartial_Sojourner]

"See that old couple? You're the puppy."

[@xdruidmaster]

Pfft, Rory thought his couple thousand years was impressive. Try billions buddy,

[@kaizoisevil]

It didn't feel like billions to him, only 3 days. Every time the version of him that had just lost Clara was spawned by the teleporter.

[@linasmith5604]

xdruidmaster at least Rory experienced the whole 2000 years

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

kaizoisevil Nope, he felt the cumulative passage of time after each cycle, and when he escaped.

[@kaizoisevil]

He determined the passage of time by looking at the stars. He himself said "but I don't feel like I have time traveled, because I would be able to feel it"

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

The reason he said that was because he can tell when he's traveled through the time vortex and cheated his way out of waiting like normal people for time to pass. It was his way of saying that there was no outside source of time travel, he'd been manually moved, second by second, through time as normal. There are moments where it becomes obvious that there were cycles, like when he saw copies of his clothes and left his own clothes in the exact same positions. Moffat also clarified after the episode aired that he remembers every cycle that happened to him inside the dial, his memories of each cycle being added into his brain as he escaped. He already knew he'd been in a cycle well before then, however. When he wrote the word 'bird' at the beginning of the maze, it was a message to himself, letting himself know that he was in a cycle.

[@dunkbuscusgaming7016]

Just the way you see her heart break through her eyes when she says "billion years" is gut wrenching and the way it takes her a moment before she can say anything or even move. Its scenes like this that make Clara one of the greatest companions of New Who. Still no idea what was with all the hate of Clara back in the day.

[@sibby84]

She was AMAZING, but just overdone. It became as if she was more important and powerful than The Doctor. He almost didn't need her and that's what people were frustrated by. She wasn't the companion, she was the lead

[@CinJyxxe]

@@sibby84 I agree that it was frustrating that it turned into the Clara Show for a while, but in a way, I think that was part of the point of the Hybrid Prophecy. The writers have suggested they always considered the pairing of Clara and The Doctor as the Hybrid, and Clara was by far the most competent companion that The Doctor ever had. I feel like they really needed to cement her ability to stand up as an equal to The Doctor for them to bother with such a grandiose prophecy about the Hybrid, so looking back on it, it makes sense that she'd be around for so long and play such a huge role in the show. Even now, I feel like she's the single most important companion The Doctor has had.

[@davidioanhedges]

Perfection - and Peter - the look of utter incredulity and lack of comprehension why she even needs to ask ...

[@kevincarroll5511]

1:44 The moment where Clara realizes the devastating magnitude of his love for her.

[@Inactive968]

Do you think the Doctor loves Clara? More than friends? But he can't because he think's he's too old for her?

[@Wassabiman117]

+RabidBadger i believe that as the eleventh doctor, he loved her but when he turned into the twelfth doctor he thought that Clara would still love him but she ended up liking danny pink. I was trying to imagine how the doctor would be feeling in that situation, i reckon he loved her the whole way and at that moment at 1:44 she realised how much he loved her

[@reagantao3436]

TBH, Twelve x Clara was far deeper than Eleven x Clara as evidenced in Eleven's regeneration scene. They weren't IN love, they simply loved eachother to an incomprehensible extent. Just watch how their outrage is channeled at the possibility of the other's death rather than any concern for themselves and it's easy to pick up just how much they treasure the other.

[@Inactive968]

I think Twelve did love her like how 10 loved Rose. But he knew it could never work, and this point Clara realizes this. There is some romantic bond here.

[@Jacobson5837]

Kevin Carroll That moment, the moment Clara know he cares he loves her too much And realized that she, herself cares, loves him too much also

[@zurielbabida8162]

I love how he acts like its so obvious that he would do something like this to save her. He looks genuinely confused that Clara would ask why he would do it

[@figsickle]

Man, this scene makes me tear up every time I stumble across it. Everyone's performance is spot-on, Jenna's in particular, and that look of devastated shock and incomprehension when she hears how long the Doctor was trapped, with that subtle roll of the camera to suggest her emotional disorientation - just, kudos to the direction here. And the Doctor's quick, tense glance to see how she's taking it - oh, my heart. Plus the blue lighting is so spooky and perfectly suited to the Doctor's furtiveness, his desperate scrabbling around and evasiveness and inability to articulate his feelings, and to Clara's deepening sense that things have gone horribly wrong. Her trying to master herself enough to confront the Doctor and make him tell the truth (always a slippery business between them) is so beautiful, as is her refusal to let him derail her when she decides to stop the bullshit and just say it. The POV pulling away to allow them their privacy is brilliant. I'm grateful the show chose to leave it to our imagination. And Capaldi - oh my God. His quicksilver expressions, with all the brusqueness and denial on the surface and the emotional panic underneath, his darting eyes, his baffled insistence on the obvious ("You. I had to find a way to save you") and his plaintive, almost childlike whisper "I had a duty of care" because he doesn't even seem to understand that this compulsion is about love, a love that's in the process of destabilizing the universe - is it any wonder it makes me cry? Twelve crazed by Clara's loss and four billion years of torture will never stop breaking my heart. He doesn't even realize how out of control he is and how absurd it is that Clara has to force him to stop and listen and accept the reality, which is a love neither of them has admitted out loud and a mistake that can't be fixed.

[@trinityj1]

Absolutely beautifully said. Love your spot on commentary.

[@phildre4035]

figsickle I

[@pwn3dbyme]

Another part I love about Capaldi in this scene is his ramblings under the breath to Clara.

[@austingonzales1405]

Incredibly well stated.

[@nicolesong6199]

This comment is actually incredible... it makes sense of why this scene is so absolutely magnetic and devastating. It’s honestly the best 3 minutes of Hell Bent aside from ‘tomorrow is promised to no one but I insist upon my past’ and also the diner scenes...

[@marsajib]

She saved him so he wanted to save her. And he did after 4.5 billion years later

[@CelestialShock]

marsajib and in the words of 11 " i hate waiting"

[@user-fi6wp5ui8l]

I love these two together I was get a little bit teared up when he says "I had a duty of care"

[@Jacobson5837]

kasegi Yabu He Loved Her so much that is so moved

[@KojinMacJorn]

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID! All this damned time I thought he said "i didn't think you'd care"

[@jaberjjr]

These are the nicest comments about Hell Bent I've ever seen.

[@FacePimpd]

Jason it’s great! People just got ratty because it wasn’t all about Gallifrey

[@tTaseric]

​@@FacePimpd It also threw the Doctor's fantastic journey in Heaven Sent out of the window, and disrespected Clara's final words for the Doctor. "Heal yourself, You have to. You cannot let this turn you into a monster. So, i'm not asking you for a promise, i'm giving you an order. You will not insult my memory, i will die and no one else here or anywhere will suffer" The main antagonist of Heaven Sent was grief itself, it was the Doctor trying to overcome the guilt and depression that came from her death. The seemingly endless cycle of doing the same routine over and over, nothing changing and the person you love never coming back. It teaches everyone that you can break free from this cycle, and you will move on eventually. It's always possible. It seems like eternity, but you will find happiness again, you will find home. That's one of the many, many reasons as to why Heaven Sent is perfect. But the next episode throws this out of the window by allowing the Doctor to kill someone (Yes, Timelord Regenerations do count. A lot of Time Lords, including the Doctor, would rather die than regenerate. Heaven Sent goes into a lot of detail about how Time Lords die properly.) and just getting Clara back. I see people justifying the decision to make The Doctor forget Clara as that he would never be able to move on, but as i said, Heaven Sent was all about moving on from grief. Yes Hell Bent has some very, very good scenes like this one and Yes i loved Jenna Coleman's performance as Clara. Hell Bent is a very good episode by itself, probably in my top 20 Doctor Who episodes. Heaven Sent and Hell Bent cannot exist together. Either one would have been the perfect finale to follow after Face the Raven, but not both of them.

[@chimeragenesis361]

@@tTaseric bit arrogant of you to assume you know the themes of the episode better than the writer himself.

[@sambernaldross8504]

@@tTaseric I understand your points and disagree, but also heaven sent is a beautiful episode but alone would be an awful ending

[@riders-pov-rs]

@@sambernaldross8504 absolutely, i think heaven sent is the best episode of dw but it is best for me because it was great when its combined with hell bent

[@jameswilliams3581]

The feels. “Between one heart beat and the last is all the time I have. People like me and you, we should say things to one another.” How often do actors get to say things like that?

[@Noah-pc6wq]

Just brilliant acting from these two. Jenna Coleman has so much emotion in her eyes, the horror she feels when she learns of the 4 billion years of torture, her love for the doctor and her realisation of how much he loves her. On Capaldi's part, he manages to act exactly like he would in every other episode, lighthearted, witty, and manic, and yet he just shifts the tone ever so slightly so you can tell something is seriously wrong with his headspace.

[@ladyfoxwf1075]

11 and Clara were IN love, 12 and Clara had an almost incomprehensible love that was different that romantic, or family, or friends, it was something different. Unhealthy, obsessive, toxic, but beautiful.

[@donanthebarbarian5177]

I'd say it was a demi romantic asexual relationship. They were in love romantically but there was no sexual desire on either end.

[@Alphamask978]

I agree partly I think 11& Clara had love for each other but I just wish this was further explored. But I think when 12 came back the dynamic changed and it became more of a love for a friend rather than romantic I feel, something platonic & greatly caring.

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

@@donanthebarbarian5177 There's no evidence to suggest any of that. Demi isn't a sexuality, it's just being selective; and they barely talk about their love for one another so it's almost impossible to tell if they have any sort of sexual feelings for each other.

[@dull_demon4717]

​​@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 Demi IS a sexuality, do not invalid it because you don't understand or feel. How would you feel if someone said your sexuality didn't exist? You'd not be happy, would you? So don't fucking do it to other sexualities unless it's genuinely fucked up like when the pedos tried validating themselves. Not only is Demi a Sexuality, it has romantic counterpart just like every other sexuality. So yes, it very well could have been Demi or even a platonic crush on both sides(Yes, those exist look it up).

[@jgrAnimations23]

Clara was obsessed in seeing the universe 12th was obsessed of having a companion again

[@friendlyfix5081]

These two were so much better together than they got credit for at the time. This scene and the "You let me down!" from the key-throwing scene are amazing.

[@andrewfallon3998]

You Let Me Down makes me feel like I'm being told off when I watch it. My family are Scottish, and the way he delivers that line gives me goosebumps.

[@michaelochs8132]

Just when the Doctor says. "I had a duty of care.." you see how someone would respond to knowing they are truly loved, unconditionally. When tears are never enough to express the gratitude of all time - moments like this can happen in anyone's life.

[@casperrun760]

god he loved her, he loved her so much

[@subsonicdeathmonkey]

I cry, every time I watch this scene. Clara remains my favourite companion since the 70's. I'm so glad Peter Capaldi convinced her to stay. They were marvellous together.

[@pwn3dbyme]

1:47 This is the moment Clara realizes how much The Doctor actually cares for and loves her.

[@Grace38042]

Everyone who believes these two weren't deeply in love has never actually paid attention to this scene.

[@BootlessDave]

I would argue they aren't IN love. I do think Clara used to be... but they're love goes beyond that at this point in the show. It's not something as simple as romance its true companionship. But i definitely agree that this was one of the most moving scenes in the entire series for me. And these two have had their fair share of beautiful scenes.

[@elleford8725]

Some types of love can be stronger than in love.

[@orlyihan361]

They’re not IN love But they love each other.

[@erichall090909]

It’s not a romantic love. It’s the love you have for someone that’s so important to you

[@kingbeauregard]

Being "in love" is three-quarters hormones, and maybe only one-quarter genuine emotion. That's why relationships get old and fall apart, because that remaining one quarter isn't enough after the hormones die down. #12 and Clara ... that's genuine love, as in, the thing that matters the most to either of them is the other one's well-being.

[@kaimoody9492]

"What's so important you would fight so long? What were you bargaining for?" "You." For love is the most powerful motivational force there ever was or ever will be, trumping any kind or amount of fear or anger.

[@underdogg87]

Your comment put me in a mind of this quote: "and so will the world end, I think, a victim of love rather than hate. For love's ever been the more destructive weapon, sure." - Stephen King

[@MessyGamer616]

God, the complete blank look of incomprehension when she hears the magnitude of time, to the transition complete shell shock with the pause halfway through turning around to look at the doctor, trying to compose herself, to her completely failing, and barely holding herself back as she can only help but ask him "*Why?*", to the realization of the utter weight of the doctors love and dedication. how he would rip the universe apart if only it meant to save her. This episode absolutely kills me like only the best doctor finale's can, regardless of whatever people might think about the rest of this episode.

[@rickymarlowe4962]

Even the lines before this, you can see something is off. Like when she asks “how long has it been since you’ve seen me” or something around those lines you can see the look in his eyes.

[@BootlessDave]

Trapped... for four and a half... BILLION YEARS... no human can even comprehend this amount of time. Not even a million years. Just imagine Clara's levels of unbelief.

[@Kupor23]

I think this is kind of a cheat, Clara doesnt know that he only remembers a couple of days of it because he was reset every time in the teleport machine.

[@baishihua]

@@Kupor23 No, he said he remembers the previous loops when he reaches the diamond wall, which makes sense as the confession dial preserves the time lord's mind.

[@JenkoRun]

@@baishihua Correct. I don't get how so many people don't understand that.

[@docwho10th88]

"People like me and you, we should say things to one another......and I'm going to say them now". Those words broke my hearts!

[@RobDeMillo]

Yeah - I gotta say the "I had a duty of care" line, delivered with such heartfelt confusion that she would even ask him that question, chokes me up every time.

[@BeowulfNorther]

love how he was in the dial for the same time as the entire length of Earth's existence hahah

[@tanishqsharma8765]

Hadley Souther probably longer lol

[@michaeldeboer9940]

Such an underrated episode. Look at the reverance they show Clara when she says “Stay back!”. Because she’s a mortal with barely seconds to live. And they’re immortal and their immortality has turned them into monsters. It makes the Time Lords willing to torture a man for billions of years and treat death and life like playthings. It changed Ashildr into Mi. It created Missy. It’s why the Doctor told Mi that they need the mayflies. It’s why the Doctor had to forget. It’s why he needs companions. Ironically, Clara died because she tried to be more like the Doctor. And he even says, the reason he gets away with it is because he’s more dureable. She’s not. She’s mortal.

[@noahw5282]

This was one of the best companion moments. The look on her face and she's first trying to grasp the number 4.5 billion years. Then it just washes over her. Excellent

[@taladavidson5400]

one of the most well acted scenes in recent years. we were so lucky to have these two actors perform scenes like this together. they truly were on another level.

[@synapticdragon2157]

Rory: I guarded the Pandorica 2000 years The Dr: Hold my Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster!

[@XxMr1XxX]

His whole character developement peaked in this one scene. I want him back, please make him the next Doctor and for gods sake bring Clara back, she was brilliant!

[@Johnston212]

"Why would you do that?" Some people may never understand what it means to truly feel that you have a duty to care and protect those that you care about. That's one thing that gets me with this scene. As much as they know each other, somehow Clara doesn't understand something so fundamental about him.

[@nzrockboi]

Twelve is the first Doctor to see my tears

[@FrogSpatula42]

Honestly I don't know what it was, but Heaven Sent and Hell Bent warmed me to Clara more than 2 and a half seasons did

[@confusedlemur12]

Now just imagine how little of an impact that would've had without theose two and a hlaf seasons

[@FrogSpatula42]

@@confusedlemur12 Good point tbh

[@confusedlemur12]

@@FrogSpatula42 see

[@PhantmLeader2]

Say what you will about Clara (she isn't my favorite either) but she understands the Doctor probably better than anyone else... She didn't even think to ask him a second time because she knew he wouldn't tell her, she just immediately stands up and demands the answer from the others

[@francisgilbert6982]

This is proof that the 12th Doctor was the best. If Clara was travelling with the 13th, 11th, 10th, 9th or any doctor from the classic series he would have forgotten about Clara 2 minutes after the crow took her out. People often talk about the love of the 10th and Rose but they forget that it was his idea to trap her in the parallel world. Then he lied to her saying that he could never go to the parallel world again. But when she got out, he took her back

[@aidennorth7256]

Clara just giving them the death stare.

[@louisegrace9584]

"I had a duty of care" said the doctor transltion "I'm inlove with you"

[@lionsjourney29]

No…translation: I Love you. Subtle difference.

[@allenstewart8535]

I am so sad steven moffats is gone he been such a beutiful show runner every episode hes been on as been great i miss the way he ran the show

[@Broccoli_32]

He was the best, he got a lot of hate over the years that he definitely didn’t deserve. He gave us some of the best episodes of DW, the show just isn’t the same without him.

[@deeparya7218]

Clara's subtle horror and pain, when she hears how long he's been stuck. Broke me.

[@insolencestar]

It's beautiful that.. Gallifrey came back and still all he cared about was Clara.

[@zoewells3160]

Best scene in the episode. I love how the real Clara reacts in this compared to the dream Clara in Heaven Sent encouraging him to go on.

[@Cheezeblade]

You do not love someone until you udnerstand what it means to do this for someone.

[@FirstSlateProductionsOfficial]

Love the music in this scene.

[@The12thDimension.]

Nicholas Brent I know I'm a year late, but I also adore the soundtrack, it's like the music in Heaven sent but slightly changed and I love it

[@rjmcallister1888]

This is the purest, simplest expression of love; that one does not quit on the other, ever. That's what is seen here, with Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman using all their skills, not just the dialogue, to get that message across. Jenna can get more across with her eyes alone than many actors, and she has that face you want to look at for as long as possible. That look of utter astonishment, trying to comprehend. Peter, when he drops the gruffness, does much the same with either so few words or a full monologue. Four and a half billion years. For you. Add Murray Gold's music for the Clara character, and you have magic. These two worked so well together, you hated to see them part, but Jenna was off soon to play Queen Victoria, so both gave it their best here. To borrow from another episode, when Capaldi leaves: "Hate is always foolish. Love is always wise". A simple lesson, yet so difficult to learn.

[@TheWPhilosopher]

Its the eyes. How DO you do that with your eyes? 😏

[@rjmcallister1888]

@@TheWPhilosopher She had four and a half billion years to practice.

[@TheWPhilosopher]

@@rjmcallister1888 not what I meant. Plus she didn't in reality but good joke🤣. It was a call back to another 12th Who episode 😏

[@theralenkaliber158]

I will miss Capaldi, best doctor so far..

[@NinjaStud14]

Matt Smith

[@DaFrenchOne]

This is when I fell in love with number 12

[@shawntco]

This scene hit me with the force of a thousand bricks when I first watched it. The Doctor spent 4.5 billion years fighting for her. That act of intense and genuine love and devotion. I don't think I would *not* be able to love that person as intensely as I ever could, to do such an amazing thing for me.

[@rex8951]

Clara is the companion I’d say the Doctor loved the most.

[@Penlager]

WoW... I can't even quantify 4 and a half billion years... Clara melted when he says I had a duty of care... This is great acting and writing...

[@Jacobson5837]

I would so Shoked that if i heard that Someone waited for me 4.5 Billion. it would gives me Heart Attack

[@anthonium.]

Clara really ended up being my favorite companion. She is brilliant and Jenna Coleman did a magnificent role. Capaldi and Coleman are great on screen together.

[@The_Little_Leaf]

From "the girl who waited" To "the doctor who waited"

[@jakedickens9240]

Best show ever. Best character ever. And one of the best scenes ever.

[@lucylu5816]

I genuinely don't understand why people hate Hell Bent, it was such an emotional and cleverly written episode with the Doctor telling the story. The way Clara left was perfect for her as she was becoming so much like the Doctor it felt ready for her to go of on her own adventures. They have never had the Doctor forget a companion before and we've never had a companion leave like that before. I really don't understand why people don't like this episode.

[@henrypeters5291]

As someone who didn't like the episode there are a few good reasons. First, I think he went to far. I understand that they wanted for him to be vulnerable but he really went to far. I would have preferred if he just jumped in the Tardis instead of involving the time lords. Second, They killed a character off and then brought her back instantly. Thus cheapening a pretty good death. And the way they brought her back didn't really settle with me. Third, how they showed Galifrey too much. Its not one of my quiffs but they made it look like little house on the prairie. I was fond of how they handled Rasillon. Again this really wasn't my problem.

[@The12thDimension.]

People Hate Hell Bent because, 1) It brings back Clara *again* after a brilliant exit in Face to raven 2) in this scene it says that the only reason the doctor was punching the Azbantium wall in the confession diel was to simply save Clara, not keep a great secret from the Universe 3) in The War games (1969) the Doctor said he left Galifrey because he was fed up of the time Lords rules of preserving the universe, not exploring it. But in Hell bent he said it was because of the Hybrid (which the doctor has never mentioned before) 4) the Daleks, Cybermen and Weeping angels are brought back only the serve as a little jumpscare instead of being threatening 5) Clara becomes overpowered as f**k and gets her own Tardis 6) the Hybrid mystery is never resolved 7) this episode goes on for 1 whole hour and doesn't change much. 8)clara becomes invincible at the end, making her even more overpowered 9)After The day of the Doctor, the hype for the return of Gallifrey was burning through everyone like a bomb, so it returning for 20 minutes for no reason was a massive let down 10)The Doctor managed to ban Rassilon (who was ounce feared as a god who could kill on sight) after 3 minutes of arguing 11)Ashilder suggests that the Doctor might be half Time lord half human, which is the main thing people hate about the Doctor who TV movie (1996).

[@kingcrimson1467]

Henry Peters Why are you fond of how they treated Rassilon? When he was first introduced he could manipulate the fabric of space and time with a thought but in Hell Bent he was reduced to a screamy man in the desert

[@dutchman8887]

@@The12thDimension. 1) Not a problem as this exit was better. 2) Not a problem as it's much truer to the character of The Doctor. 3) Not a problem as there's been loads of explanations for why he left. Doctor Who constantly changes it's canon to the point it doesn't even really have one. Doesn't matter either way. 4) So? We've had a million episodes with them already. This episode wasn't about them. Pretty irrelevant. 5) Clara doesn't become overpowered. Certainly no more than The Doctor is. She still returns to die eventually. 6) Yes it was. The hybrid was The Doctor and Clara. 7) Now this point is just odd. I don't see why length means a lot of things have to change. A lot changes anyway.The relationship between the characters is beautifully concluded. Nobody blows up or anything but that doesn't matter. Clara comes back from the dead (not much apparently) but the Doctor has to forget her almost for the rest of his time as 12. Plus he overthrows the president of Gallifrey. 8) See point 5. 9) It wasn't a let down. The Doctor and Gallifrey rarely see eye to eye. The idea that he'd be more concerned with his friend than Gallifrey is so wonderful and true to the character. Even still he overthrows the Lord President and then becomes Lord President himself. I don't know what people expected (neither did they). 10) This is just poor from you. He managed to overthrow him because he was a hero in the time war and the people respected him more. Everything he did is coming back. He says a couple of sentences so I'm not sure where you get 3 minutes of arguing from. 11) She does SUGGEST that but literally right after that she says she has a better theory so I don't see what your point is. It's also here where the Clara + Doctor is the Hybrid comes from (as well as Moffat confirming that) so judging by point 6 you must've not been paying attention much.

[@The12thDimension.]

@@dutchman8887 I'm only going to reply to a few because I'll be here for hours if I reply to them all. I personally think this exit for Clara is not as good as Face the Ravens because that episode shows that death is inevitable. No matter how far or fast you run, death will strike and you can't do anything to stop it, which is very true to real life so it shows a connection to the real world. But in Hell bent, you can just get a time machine and live forever until you feel like dying. Yes the show can be as silly as it likes, which makes it so fun, but with the death of a loved one Face the raven for me. Just because the Daleks and Cybermen have appeared for no reason before doesn't mean its OK for Moffat to do it again. Clara for a companion gets too much power, her own Tardis, companion and she's immortal. Even the Doctor can die!!! The problem with Clara constantly leaving and returning is that her actual departure doesn't feel genuine or real, that's true here because she returns *AGAIN* in twice apon a time!!!! The Doctor banishing Rassilon should've been the whole episode, showing how an army and all the power doesn't make you a true leader. The episode could have Rassilon manipulating people by claiming it was the Doctors fault of the war ever starting. But slowly the Doctor takes control of the Citidel. Or maybe have Rassilon come back from banishment half way through the episode and the Doctor isattacked by Rassilon's new army. Its a series finale, it can be as big and bombastic as it wants. This episode spent a good amount of its run time dealing with the Doctor letting go of Clara, even though the previous two episodes (or 4.5 billion years) were the same thing

[@JSheridanEntilZha]

There is quite a bunch of heartbreaking moments in Doctor Who, but none can compare to this one...

[@joetheblu3]

nah the tenth doctor not wanting to go beats this by a mile

[@mclarenrob2]

everything was so much better in those days. the acting, the scripts, the music...

[@elle12500]

i know i miss this tardis team SO MUCH

[@beebees9957]

Dr who refuses to let characters say I love you on screen- figure 18362828272828

[@aristidetwain9117]

I like how the music is sort of a darker, minor-key version of “The Shepherd's Boy", too, on top of being a “This Is Gallifrey” variation. The orchestration has many similarities.

[@sam6537]

i can’t stop watching this scene i love 12 and clara more than anything

[@grayclaw1391]

Me too!!

[@Phantom-hy2ix]

Miss Clara as much as I miss Sarah Jane. Loved those two, as a matter of fact I think Sarah would have been a great companion for Capaldi. I try to look past the haters and their opinionated Dalek wannabes. I love Doctor Who, not one story I dislike and there are many that are my favorites.

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

But how do you establish your DW street cred? I kid of course.

[@Phantom-hy2ix]

huh? I'm clever, but I don't understand pudding brains. joke lol

[@SnakeMCGaming]

I love fans like you. People willing to embrace the wonder that is Doctor Who in general. Now granted there are some stories that are better than others, some i could rewatch countless times and others i can skip over. But they are all amazing in their own right. I never understood peoples hatred for Clara, i thought she was a wonderful character. Although that could be because i also do like Moffat as a writer, and from what ive gathered, most of the people that dont like Clara, dont like Moffat.

[@JamesGames101]

Just disliking Clara doesn't make me a hater. Hell I liked her at first. But by this point almost every companion has become some sort of concept, something to carry the series instead of the Doctor himself. Danny Pink didn't help the situation nor did bringing Clara back in an episode that should have been about the Doctor finding Galifrey

[@Peacock__]

sarah jane is dead irl

[@W0X42A]

"Between one heartbeat and the last is all the time I have." One of my favorite lines, ever.

[@shazia016]

The look in her eyes🥺🥺

[@EllyseVeronica]

I really hope we end up finding out what Clara said to the Doctor...

[@rachelburton8587]

EllyseVeronica we never did and I don’t think we will, but we know what the gists of what was said

[@gusngregg5127]

Run you clever boy, and be a Doctor

[@flipmode82]

this is the best thing of love ive seen in my life

[@persepoIis]

THE ACTING it doesn't get much better than this

[@Bee-kq4sj]

Never try to control a control freak

[@misssjustice3791]

12 and Clara had the most incredible emotional moments! I loved 11+Amy+Rory but I wish there had been more emotion from Amy+Rory spread over a few episodes over losing baby Melody. I mean she hopped right back on the T.A.R.D.I.S like nothing happened. Clara loses Danny and flipped out. 12 loses River after Darilium and he actually mourns her in the Mysterio episode and he had her picture on his desk! Ironically, watching 10's angst over Rose annoyed the heck out of me. I didn't even realize they were supposed to be in love!

[@kaizoisevil]

But for him it was just 3 days, because every time he burned himself up, the version of him that had just lost Clara came through the teleporter.

[@kaimoody9492]

That's only half of the narrative, I think. Because every subsequent time he reached the Wall, he realized where he was, his already past, current and potential future situation, suddenly becoming burdened with the enormous psychological and emotional strain of an ever-increasing process that amounted to up to 4.5 billion years, never even "knowing" how long it would actually take to get through the Wall.

[@finndexter2639]

kaizoisevil I need to rewatch but I’m pretty sure he has a line where he’s says he remembers it all only after the first realization had been made.

[@maxthommesen9315]

He littlerly says " I remember it clara u dont understand i remeber it all" that the point of the dial when u come to the last room u get all the memories that u lived in it

[@kaizoisevil]

@@maxthommesen9315 thanks for clarifying

[@gonkie4658]

I can understand why some people didn't like either Capaldi's doctor or Clara cos I didn't at first. It took a while for Clara to grow on me cos Amy and Rory before her were both just so likeable and it was the same with Capaldi following Matt Smith. Both Tennant and Smith were incredibly charismatic Doctors so Capaldi's seemingly grumpy, disinterested and uncaring demeanour was pretty hard to get on board with. What I don't understand though is why some of those people stopped watching because of it. Doctor who regularly changes it's actors yet they've always continued to pick great ones. I love Doctor Who for many things but especially the quality of the acting which ranges from humorous to dramatic and often even heart wrenching. This scene is a perfect example. I may not have liked either character much at first but after watching for over a decade I had faith that I'd warm to them both, especially knowing the quality of talent Capaldi possesses as an actor. There have been many emotional scenes over the years involving the doctor losing a companion but this was in a league of it's own. Capaldi's doctor who originally seemed so uncaring, went to the greatest lengths of any doctor in his desperacy not to lose his friend. I feel sorry for those people who didn't have faith in Doctor Who and stopped watching cos they missed the most powerful episodes they've ever created.

[@sylviaelse5086]

Compare this with the current offering.

[@mattyice9535]

like 2 different shows.

[@ralphgambino7845]

One of the most beautiful and tear-jerking scenes in the history of Doctor Who.

[@mephostopheles3752]

Screw the haters, I love this episode. It’s one of those “The Doctor goes too far” moments similar to Timelord Victorious that makes you really uncomfortable but showcases what happens when the Doctor forgets to have the right perspective. I mean, any average joe left alone with a time machine might just do exactly the same thing, but the Doctor at this point been at it for 2000 years or whatever, so they’re intimately familiar with the rules. And yet, on occasion, whether it be desperation or passion or just getting too used to something, they can lose themself and do something rash and ultimately both destructive and SELF-destructive. This is one of those few moments. And I love it. It’s acted well, it lets us see more of the Timelords and Gallifrey, it finally brought a definite conclusion to Clara’s run on the show (what is death to a time traveller? This episode solidified that he couldn’t see her anymore.) I dunno, I’m a fan. A lot of people hate this episode. It’s a lot of people’s LEAST favorite episode. Of course, it’s by no means MY favorite, but it is quite good in my opinion.

[@deckenneth]

"I had a duty of care", just kills me.

[@johnniesiller5285]

"TIME LORDS, I HAVE COME TO BARGIN!!!"

[@shetori5255]

- "We don't have much time." - "My time, Doctor my time is up. From one heartbeat to the last is all I got" "people like you and me, we should say things to one another, and I'm going to say mine now." Arghhh the heartfelt that whole part just killed me.

[@hawhawjepers8274]

Four and a half decades is crazy but I understand why he did love is crazy.

[@Reoh0z]

> "It's fine." It's never fine.

[@doodoo5594]

the most emotional part of this scene for me is that he doesn’t even seem to contemplate the insanity of the sacrifice, he’s just like “duh ofc i was gonna save you”

[@BlueMoon56832]

The way you can visibly see her heart shatter into a million pieces through her eyes will never cease to make me shed a tear They were not in love But they definitally loved each other in a way that only best friends like them truly could I do hope they bring back clara at some point It would be amazing to see her continue in this series

[@razorclaus9898]

Don’t you mean four and half billion pieces?

[@BlueMoon56832]

.................why

[@luvr381]

This is one of the best scenes I've ever seen in anything.

[@MegaCMalta]

They had the best, most substantial relationship. I don't care what anyone says .

[@yeshello3775]

Capaldi is now gone.... and we never found out what Clara told him in the cloisters

[@maddiemueth6999]

Why give it 26 thumbs down? This, this is a masterpiece..

[@simondunn521]

That's why he leaves his companions instead of keeping them with him.......if they are out of his timeline, he can visit no matter how much time passes. In the words of River Song" he doesn't like endings "

[@andrewfallon3998]

This was always one of my favourite episodes anyway, but rewatching this scene again by itself has kicked me in the feels all over again. Ohila's face when Clara grasps how long 12 fought for her is beautiful. I'll never get over 12 leaving. 😂

[@austenluvr]

This whole series of episodes destroys me... sooo good! and soooo heartbreaking....

[@chanceneck8072]

Unpopular opinion, I don´t care: I still love this god damn episode!

[@DJ.V-W]

Popular with me, I honestly don't get the hate for this episode. It doesn't detract from Face the Raven as some claim, for me at least it enhances it, it shows how much losing Clara (and in such a way) hurt him so deeply and pushed him to do things that he normally wouldn't do to get his friend back! It also shows just how fed up he is of losing people he loves.

[@chanceneck8072]

Ex-fucking-actly!!

[@n0body550]

It breaks my heart every time

[@PerovNigma]

I love this scene.

[@rubenrodriguez3288]

Damon this scene still gets to me after all this time especially when you hear the doctor's voice kinda break when he says I had a duty of care to her 😢😢

[@josephhodges9819]

I am a grown man who is not afraid to admit I had tears on my cheeks.

[@Zlda-uq3pj]

2:19 I wish we could heard what she said to him

[@AgnesKoteles]

I loved this scene. Cried my eyes out all the way trough.

[@nadam4649]

Jenna Colemans performance as Clara Oswald, I think has been excellent. I would go as far as to say she has been my favourite companion since the 2005 reboot. The issue of her character over shadowing the Doctor, is the pressure that Steven Moffat has been under to cast a female Doctor ever since Matt Smith, decided to leave the show. People have been consistently stating that females don't have strong enough characters. So I think he has tried to change that by making Clara's character very strong, and also turning the Master into Missy, to also give her a very strong presence. Look at how Series 9 started with the Doctor believing Clara was dead, and she was left to deal with Missy. Then look towards the end of how they gave Clara her own Tardis, and companion Ashieldr. I also believe this might have been why Steven Moffat suddenly wanted to leave, if he became aware that Peter Capaldi was looking to leave after the next series or two, he could have started talking about it after series 9. I can see exactly why he would have left, because he doesn't want to have undergo the pressure again to cast a woman to be The Doctor, because lets be honest a character changing gender is ridiculous.

[@wotmot223]

A character becoming physically different over and over again is also ridiculous. : )

[@whatislife1200]

Richard Blackmore if you look at it in an evolution standpoint and you have enemies, to change into a different body, with different attitudes and tastes, but retain core knowledge and acquaintances, well you hit the jackpot on starting over and having the element of surprise on your enemy. As for gender swapping, if the drive was so very strong to have a baby, it could be understandable. If it's just changing to a female without any purpose, that's just stupid. Or if your greatest adversary, who is now a woman, is giving signals for sexy-time, but you want no part in it, changing sex is a defensive move. On the flip-side, it seems timeladies can regenerate at will, as we saw with Romana--does that use up a life or women are just wasteful like that? Why oh why did they have to ruin things making the doctor female? 😠

[@nickchivers9029]

Don’t get why people think the doctor changing gender is ridiculous, regeneration is a complete biological rewrite at the molecular level. And in this very episode, we literally see a Male to female regeneration. It’s an interesting change in dynamic that’s worth keeping an open mind about. And no, I’m not a feminist. I hate feminists who demand Female this and female that from well established male characters like Thor. But this particular character it is well within the parameters of the world. Plus Jodie Whitaker’s the new doctor so your point is moot.

[@martouf13]

People need to stop saying no they were not "IN" love. Of course they are not "IN" love. The "IN" love feeling comes from sexual attraction. What they had was far more than that. Long before this there was an episode when Clara tries to blackmail the doctor into going back in time to save her boyfriend from dying by destroying all the TARDIS keys if he didn't do as she said. After that happened she assumed he was done with her but instead his response to her was "Do you really think that I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?". I think that was the first time she realized he loved her. Only love allows someone to truly overlook complete betrayal like that. You see the realization in her eyes. In this scene when she hears the 4.5 billion years you can see it hits her like a ton of bricks. She turns with tears in her eyes barely able to speak because of her realization of how much he loves her. Then when she asks him "Why would you do that to yourself?" and he says "I had a duty of care" she gets hit again with not only the realization of how much he loves her but how much she loves him in return. That is why she finally decides that they need to tell each other how they feel. Even though they both know that they are loved by the other it is important that is said out loud. While it's speculation to what exactly was said, I guarantee that "I LOVE YOU!" was part of their talk. The Doctor willingly allowed himself to be tortured for 4.5 billion years and was going risk ripping apart the universe in order to save her. He wasn't able to accept the loss and that only comes from loving someone.

[@cocobaba3704]

I watch that scene and ask myself how some people can hate 12-clara relationship.I had loved 9-Rose or 11- Ponds but they didnot have the depth of this one.and I had even more regret of these times with the actual gang which is quite lame in my opinion.