DOCTOR WHO LIVE : HAS RTD TARNISHED THE SHOW? DISNEY WALKING? CHRISTMAS TRAILER DECODED

[@thezeroroom]

Hello al!! ( @Divining Dragon , @Peter Harrington , @Marjorie Dieudonne and others) I've been reading the chat replay today. To those who tried to interact with me I feel that I must apologize and explain that I have trouble multitasking. I'm not purposely ignoring you. This old brain of mine is wearing a bit thin. A heartfelt thanks to those who reached out with greetings and comments. (YES. Clive is indeed alive and well. I mixed him up with Wes Craven.😊) I'm thrilled to be onboard with The Sense Sphere crew. Cheers! - TheZeroroom

[@noblerees1]

Great addition

[@thezeroroom]

@@noblerees1 ♥Thank you!

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I agree "Dr. Who" needs risks and go far into darkness give us some "Resurrection of the Daleks" styled Dr. Who we need alot more death in the show as well.

[@noblerees1]

Ruthless clinical kick ass daleks

[@Farsight-nc1ib]

That's a big problem with the current show, there is no jeopardy. People get killed and they're alive again in no time.

[@alexanderbeta-werburghii6176]

Your parents have good taste young Brendan; 'The Duchess of Duke Street'! Top notch costume drama based upon a true story. I bet auld Willy liked Louisa Trotter.

[@noblerees1]

Gemma jones yes- we have more puppets ready now

[@alexanderbeta-werburghii6176]

@@noblerees1 Yay!

[@Pooter-it4yg]

Marking military gear requires letters and numbers that are extremely clear, uniform and applicable quickly using stencils. Hence the graphic design connotation.

[@noblerees1]

Thanks for that. I did feel they looked military

[@tmr4342]

A weapon from series 1, eh? Anti-plastic? The little bombs Cassandra was handing out on Platform One? The Nano genes, could they be used as a weapon? The weapon the Doctor built in the finale?

[@noblerees1]

Nano genes might be very on point with our post covid vaccines

[@tmr4342]

@@noblerees1 Could be. Someone programing them to kill instead of healing. Could be very scary if written good enough. Are you sure RTD would go that dark?

[@zoolook3264]

I think they should rename it "The Importance of being Gatwa" because his ego and self importance is THE biggest reason I don't like current Doctor Who.

[@noblerees1]

Good idea. The diva doctor

[@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns]

So true! If he was chocolate he would eat himself. I find him nauseating. Self obsessed with very little going on up above. I doubt he could find Rwanda with a map.

[@joshuaverran9443]

To be fair Chibnall did give us some dark episodes particulary "Orphan 55" which i know alot of people dislike but those dregs were as scary as hell and the Daleks actually started killing people again until they were made a joke again in "Eve of the Daleks".

[@noblerees1]

Thanks for joining us and it was lovely of Boomer Doug to make that detox trailer as a surprise for me

[@cybermatstrikes7557]

Thumbs up for the sexy Detox trailer Doug! Sex sells mate? WooHoo!

[@mUbase]

Ilove Hellraiser i and II and love the duo that wrote the Original (I say original ) theme tune that wasnt used due to Clive Barker considering it too frightening !! That duo were John Balance and Peter (Sleazy) Christopherson who were "Coil" . Who knows what they might have done if they were still here.... x

[@thezeroroom]

Did you know that the awfully evil woman from Hellraiser is now the leader of the Sisterhood of Karn? Blew my mind.

[@mUbase]

@@thezeroroom ha, cool!

[@Farsight-nc1ib]

I do think, given his latest comments that Davies has been consistently lying to us about the future of the show. Disney do not want the show.

[@triplejazzmusicisall1883]

Hello Zeroroom, is that username based on that awesome spin off with Jonn Perwtee and Colin Baker in it during the drought years) and please my giddy aunt don't tell us your the sixteenth Doctor. All jokes aside and welcome to this great team and channel.

[@thezeroroom]

Hello triplejazzmusicisall1883 (love that name!) Actually it's taken from Peter Davison's first story "Castrovalva". Although I haven't see the video you mentioned I imagine it's the same thing (a room for Time Lords to recover from a regeneration crisis). Ah yes. Ever since David Tennant first appeared on screen I've been getting, "Excuse me but has anyone ever told you..." almost ever time I go out or just glances and smiles or whispers from one friend to another as they walk by to people just plain asking me out. To be honest it's been almost 20 years and I'm still not tired of it. I've been watching Who since 1978 so it's pretty freaking cool!🤣 Thanks for reaching out and don't worry. I will not be the 16th Doctor. If things keep going they way they are there may not be a 16th Doctor. Cheers!

[@crimpleendoubloon]

Great show. Many thanks, Brendan, Rachael, Simon, Jeremy and Brian. If only the BBC would listen to shows such as this one, they'd know that there is still interest in the programme, if done properly. When RTD came back the show was in the toilet, and yet rather than rolling up his sleeve and fishing it out of the bowl, he decided to stage an expensive song and dance routine with other people's money on the cistern, as an 'experiment.' What madness! At such a precarious moment, why take a chance on turning the show into something else, when the obvious route to success was to make Doctor Who like Doctor Who again? Why not try that, as an experiment? It wouldn't be just the fans coming back, it'd quite likely be the general public as well. And it doesn't need to be big and spectacular and expensive. Update the special effects to current day expectations, yes, but keep things smaller scale. That's what works. That's Doctor Who. Needless spectacle makes the show look stupid. Dumbing it down makes it less appealing, not more. Make it cheaper and make it intelligent again. And if you have more money than before, just make more of the bloomin' show. Haven't we been telling the BBC long enough, what would work and what doesn't work? Instead the BBC has headed on and on down the drain without even a glance back. The experiment failed. The patient is close to death. But hope for a full recovery remains, if given the appropriate treatment.

[@noblerees1]

I agree. Those two west end shows are a case in point. One larger louder camper and one more intimate, quieter. The latter is cheaper yet has rave reviews for its emotional engagement and impact

[@iluv2b]

Whilst hoping that Gatwa's departure from the show will be accompanied by his having learned some much-needed lessons, I'm far more entertaining of a scenario in which he forays into one revered intellectual property after another, daubing garish revisionism over each and every one; to be his true legacy as an actor, I fear. Although 1987-89 is a period known for, at the highest level, a mean spirited treatment of our show by the BBC, it also upheld a longstanding tradition whereby the opinion of viewers about what they liked most was reflected faithfully in what they were given. This perfectly serviceable arrangement has, in these more enlightened times, become antiquated and scorned, replaced by a culture all too willing to tell us what we should like, and all too able, should we not comply, to comprehensively rebuke and shame us. In the case of the new writing troupe, I can't rid myself of the feeling that what their work lacks in aptitude and suitability will be more than compensated for by an excess of cloying ideology. On a related note, whatever menace that the Daleks have left, we can be sure that Gatwa's era will be able to nullify it via a deluge of emasculating, gender asserting, race-baiting absurdity. To the man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail, and there is nothing to suggest that the showrunner, for the remainder of his undetermined tenure, will refrain from raining blow after blow upon an already terminally-beset current era. Many thanks, Brendan, Rachael, Jeremy, Simon, and Brian, for continuing to be such an insistent voice of reason. All the best for now. Paul

[@Cpt.BawsaK]

howdy folks! missed this live but here's my view on ncuti camping it up in the theatre. it's fine but why is he doing it when he's supposed to be the doctor. realising that he's just playing the doctor on a part time basis explains a lot of his performance so far. he's not really invested in the role and this seems to explain, at least to me, why his performance has been so sub-par and why he was missing from 25% of the episodes in disney who.

[@noblerees1]

Doing something else apart from his Dr Who role is supposed to show his acting range- seems he’s resorting to type

[@nigelwalker6103]

The thing about trying to appeal to the modern audience is that a lot of younger people in their teens and twenties don't watch tv like we used to and so you're not going to get the big ratings you want. People who are a little older like me still watch tv, and as a loyal fan since the 80s, I'd still watch. So target older millennials, gen X, and the boomers who will still watch tv. If you produce a really good show, you might drag in a few gen Z nerds, too. So, stop me if I'm not thinking clearly, but if they appealed more to the mature audience they might get bigger viewers and yes I know they want a long term audience but I like to hope that I'll be around for a few more decades and to be honest, at the moment it doesn't look like the series will last more than another year or two, so having a dedicated audience that would still be willing to watch for twenty plus years seems fine to me.

[@noblerees1]

Your thinking is very logical and correct

[@Farsight-nc1ib]

That's the thing, it's been aimed at kids. The classic show appealed to everyone, the core of the show remained the same and it entranced generations.

[@ShaunCryer-e2w]

For the love of... Brendan, I wouldn't soil my stuff on the current crap. But can you seriously sit there and question the viability of new writers? After the rubbish Davis, Moffat and Chibnell have inflicted on us. I find that incredible. Anybody who has watched this show from the classic days couldn't help but do a better job than the three stooges!

[@noblerees1]

Shaun you surely saw my point? Rogue had new writers to dr who and that was the biggest aberration in dr who history and of course my current concern is new ‘novice’ writers under tutelage of RTD and owing him everything are hardly going to deliver anything different. You see my point. I said we need fresh blood but WHO chooses the new blood?

[@noblerees1]

If you don’t trust the diet of stories from RTD why would you so blithely think rtds selection of fresh blood will be any different from their mentor that they will feel loyal to? Come on, let’s not be naive about this!

[@ShaunCryer-e2w]

@@noblerees1 Yes I do take that point, but I'm not talking about people in the slippery grip of Davis. It is a bit of a conundrum I agree, people influenced by someone who clearly doesn't understand Who, but I maintain that anybody who has any talent at story telling from an independent standpoint could kick the likes of Davis, Moffat and Chibnell out of the park. But with the situation being as it is... What hope is there? I just feel it's time for DW to divorce itself from the clueless BBC, and be delivered to a company that can make good television. I just found that hard to hear, that's all, after years of the same old boring crap, being delivered by the same old boring people. I can't defend these people, but we can agree that Rogue was an abomination.

[@Cpt.BawsaK]

wallace and grommit for the next doctor and his companion. grommit can be k-9 v2.0. in fact a plasticine doctor would out act anything that disney who has to offer. and i am pretty sure there would be less crying involved.

[@davidphilp4453]

Why not give Davros a Praetorian Guard unit of slightly bigger Daleks who are jet black, and only obey all Dravos's commands and the rest of the Daleks fear them. Am basing them on Hitler's own body Guards who wore black uniforms, and were about 6 feet tall or more, Davros as been betrayed by the Daleks before, so he needs his Black Praetorian Guards. At the end of Planet of the Daleks, a whole army of Daleks get Frozen, so he can start all over again, and learn from his past mistakes, and make them more deadlier and more evil. Then there's a Dalek civil war in which Davros wins and he gets more Powerful that even the Time-Lords fear him. Again the Doctor failed to Destroyed the Daleks on the planet Spiridon. NOW Davros can start to Conquuering the Universe, heading to all out war with the Time-Lords, and that's how the Doctor feels Guilty.

[@joshuaverran9443]

The BBC should give the job to J. Michael Strackzynski who did "Babylon 5" yes he's american but i think he would make it more sci fi and would respect the history and he wants the job if the BBC got no one to turn to they should give it to him.

[@noblerees1]

I am interested in this - as I was before RTD returned.

[@davidblyth6886]

Jms is the same as rtd these days

[@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns]

No. Give it to young fresh blood with new ideas. Someone on their way up who wants to make waves in the industry. Hinchcliffe looked upon Dr Who as his big break. Make a success of it would lead to , in his mind, bigger things. That’s the way to go. Then we do the same thing 3-4 years later. That is why there is so much variation in Classic Who. Nu Who is completely dominated by two men, RTD and Steven Moffat. Chibnall made little to no impact. Not in a positive sense anyway. Twenty years of the same writers and we wonder why Dr Who is stale. We need to get back to ERAS. William Hartnell and Verity Lambert, Patrick Troughton and Innes Lloyd, Jon Pertwee and Barry Letts, Tom Baker and Philip Hinchcliffe. All put their stamp on the show. It’s sad because RTD knows he is all played out on new ideas for Dr Who. He’s turned WHO into a generic fantasy series no different to any other around the World. Losing Dr Who’s unique Britishness feel. He’s using Dr Who as his platform to champion his political agenda on LGBTQ + issues. The quality of the story is of little importance to him. Make it fast paced and hit them over the head with a message and them bring it to a fast conclusion. Over. The End! The other problem is present BBC not hiring the right people for the job. Dr Who is, was, a science fiction programme. That takes it to another skill level. From a producing and writing prospective. They need to get people with those skills. Not just hire someone from a DEI perspective and hope for the best. Dr Who can be fixed but it will need a qualified professional not a DIY enthusiast.

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

Yes he has. The End.

[@nigelwalker6103]

When it comes to making things bigger and flashier, I tend to lean in the other direction. You can write a good story that doesn't require lots of special effects or a big cast. Doctor Who used to have subtle, thought-provoking, and poignant moments. Each to their own, of course, but there needs to be a balance.

[@Cpt.BawsaK]

last comment. everything about dr. who is the story. if the stories aren't there then nothing else matters. the writing has been so poor that i am not sure dr. who can recover and the show is not going to recover under its current leadership. time for a rest maybe?

[@noblerees1]

I agree that we knew we had a big recovery job after timeless children but now it is like climbing Everest

[@Farsight-nc1ib]

RTD and Chibnall have ruined it forever for me, and I suspect many others. Even if I watch Pyramids or The War Games I'm going to be reminded of that awful Scoobytekh or this new Who 2nd Doc regeneration in the upcoming War Games release. His latest version of the Doctor is embarrassing, crying his eyes out all the time. Unless all that is jettisoned I think the majority of fans and the general public will regard the show as a laughing stock.

[@noblerees1]

I naughtily keep reminding you too with my sutekh sleeps item in my reviews

[@agentg5971]

Doctor Who isn’t going anywhere. It will be around in 2025 and 2026. Nothing to worry about.

[@noblerees1]

Time will tell

[@triplejazzmusicisall1883]

Let's forget DW and begn a new chapter in television history with and entitled The Contrarian. The True Ulimate Foe! Bye bye The Master, farewell to the Valeyard ,sweet Dreams Missy, Black Guardian go and scatter your houselhold keys across the universe again. All make way for the Great Conrarian whose evil has no bounds, whose schemes are devishly devised (sorry Mr Ainley not your fault) and whose opinions will be deemed required listening for all those belonging to the Sense Sphere. The Revolution begings with the new Crew of the Starship Sense Sphere with Brendan Blake the radical leader of the pact together with hs team ready to fight the RTD - Russell's Totalitraian Federation. Let the adventures begin.

[@TheSkully343]

Brendan's 7.

[@noblerees1]

Sounds exciting-

[@triplejazzmusicisall1883]

RTD is always making predictions that fail to come true. I wish he would just stop mouthing off when he feels the need. All that hyperbole he spouted over 2024 now is really sickening to think about. Bigger than the entire world etc ... Haters are annoying because if you are just a decent person who was unhappy with how it was treated often mislead some to align well intention good people with that bracket/sector of the bigoted haters. I am sorry but those awful people will always be with us in the social media world and all we can do is ignore them. Here comes the told you so bit - classic fans never liked the Disney deal, never thought it would last, thought it would change the tone of the show (i.e. song and dance number) and that Disney would pull out if DW was not a smash hit. DW in America has always been cult not mainstream and it will always be that way due to cultural differences and most fans do not want it to be another Star Trek of equivalent. The Britishness of DW has been massively damaged over the last year and few have accepted that truth. Even in the Movie the Eighth Doctor stated that yes he was British. Why do we always have to compete with America? As for money, this was another case of misplaced thinking. Maybe a cliché but nevertheless true - DW never had money and if I watch Eccleston's era it is still highly enjoyable, and the effects are fine with me. Special effects have become a ridiculously over valued elements in movie making and photography too. So much so we have lot the ability to admire natural beauty. How often do you look out you window to see Jurassic Park or a city of millions with sleek designed spaceships etc flying around. Remember Basil Fawlty when asked by Mrs. Richards what else would you expect to see out of a hotel window in Torquay when she complained about the view. Worth revisiting… Basil: "Well may I ask what you expected to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain..." So time maybe to also expect the faux magnificence of Special Effects as they actually are as far removed from reality as ever before. 1. DW should never have sold its soul to Disney 2. DW can run of a minute budget and work i.e. Midnight 3. Classic fans should have had their opinions considered more And just ignore the bigot and hate of certain type 4. DW is ESSENTILLIALLY BRITISH and that should never change, or do we want Britain to become more Americanised as Australia has. 5. RTD has to take responsibility for the anger and disappointment because he more than other sent fans expectations skyrocketing and then poured scorn on those who were disappointed. 6. RTD needs to go away or at lest put DW before himself. His ego imo got way out of control. And please, for heaven’s sake can he stop with the ‘You won’t believe me…’ Bigger than ever…’, ‘Will shock you…’ comments. 7. Steven Moffat had one no wrong, still delivered the better stories and has been abused by thousands really more as a backlash from RTD choosing where and when to go on social media. I have read some of RTD’s comments and they were beyond rude and cruel. 8. The show is bigger than one person be that RTD or even David Tennant 9. Small dreams and hopes can be just as rewarding and beautiful as massive wishes that are more akin to off the scale delusions 10. Americanisation ≠ DW, Big funding ≠ DW, ceaseless messaging ≠ DW (yes some but not all the time) 11. British and great narratives around an eccentric selfless Timelord = DW. Strange how nearly everyone forgot (not this panel of course) this the most important and obvious point of them all. I apologise but most of my comments will have typos in them due to deteriorating vision I have to simply deal with.