Doctor Who's Regeneration Has NEVER Made Sense

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Күн бұрын

The newest incarnation of the Doctor is here, and Ncuti Gatwa's surprising method of arrival has stirred fan uproar. Thankfully Nerdist's resident Doctor Who expert is hopping in his T.A.R.D.I.S. to take a look back at the long and weird history of regeneration in the show, and break down how it's actually never made much sense.
00:00 - Intro
01:43 - First Doctor
04:07 - Second Doctor
06:48 - Third Doctor
09:33 - Regeneration Rules
11:53 - Romana
13:22 - The Master's Gross Face
14:14 - Fourth Doctor
15:20 - The '80s, baby!
20:18 - TV Movie
21:23 - Tenth Doctor and His Hand
23:14 - The End of Time
24:15 - River Song
25:14 - The War Doctor
27:14 - Old Tom Baker?
27:57 - Eleventh Doctor and the Regeneration Limit
30:02 - The Twelfth Doctor's Face
31:43 - Doctor Who and Gender Presentation
32:20 - TARDIS Soapbox
34:03 - Doctor Ruth
35:49 - The Timeless Child
38:09 - The Power of the Doctor
39:13 - David Tennant Again
39:55 - Bi-Generation
41:28 - A Change, My Dears
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@dxanatos2
@dxanatos2 3 ай бұрын
My fanon is: The less traumatic the circumstances of the regeneration, the more control a Time lord has over the regeneration. That's why Romana was able to try out bodies, because she chose to regenerate and was in a safe place , while the Doctor's regeneration are usually a bit more traumatic.
@nickl2854
@nickl2854 3 ай бұрын
I also think it's funny that perhaps romana can just do that with no explanation needed
@MarvelX42
@MarvelX42 2 ай бұрын
That's might be yours, it isn't mine.
@thedoctor2160
@thedoctor2160 29 күн бұрын
John Nathan Turner was asked why Romana was able to change her appearence so often and the Doctor can't and he simply answered "it's because of the difference between men and women" Now does that mean The Thirteenth Doctor was able to choose to regenerate into The Tenth Doctor?
@axelbarnett5438
@axelbarnett5438 10 күн бұрын
QQqqq
@kaboombox1581
@kaboombox1581 3 ай бұрын
They consistently “made it up as they went along”. Each one was different.
@CJ-qp7hi
@CJ-qp7hi 3 ай бұрын
The Eleventh Doctor's choice to save Gallifrey in the Time War becomes the linchpin for the existence of the Twelfth. This pivotal act leads to 12 convincing the First Doctor to regenerate, setting in motion the entire sequence of the Doctor's incarnations. Ultimately, saving Gallifrey is intricately woven into the fabric of the Doctor's destiny.
@samuelengelman8891
@samuelengelman8891 2 ай бұрын
I never really thought about that but that does make sense
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ Ай бұрын
Not really lol. There's no indication of this whatsoever.
@Matt-tq9nd
@Matt-tq9nd 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! This was super informative and interesting!
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames 3 ай бұрын
The one thing you can rely on Doctor Who Lore for, is for it to be unreliable lol I think they sunk Atlantis several different times lol
@paulohagan3309
@paulohagan3309 Ай бұрын
Hey! There were alternative universes!😄😄
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ Ай бұрын
​@@paulohagan3309That's boring.
@djco5782
@djco5782 3 ай бұрын
David Tennant's departure was actually announced three months after Journey's End, so he wasn't known to be leaving; I only mention it because it was therefore even more of a surprise. There was speculation that the BBC may have finally managed to pull a regeneration completely out of the hat.
@armypanda
@armypanda 3 ай бұрын
Something that still grinds my gears about the Ruth Doctor…why is her TARDIS stuck on a Police Box as well?! Wasn’t it established that it got stuck that way due to a malfunctioning Chameleon circuit (which gets repaired later on…Yada-yada). But wouldn’t that have meant Hartnell was the first doctor to get the Police Box TARDIS?
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
U do know for the 50th they semi retcon it where he didn't picked that tardis but clara incartion did for him Even tho the tardis told the doctor that he stolen her and she stolen him. Implying that yes he picked her at first, but then the 50th special came out and kind of retcon it. Unless she meant before too with Ruth where the tardis was already was broken, and landed on earth, haven't changed at all on purpose cause we might not see Ruth trying to change the tardis but focusing on her mission too. I think the tardis chameleon circuit thing isn't something to really worry about when they are living machines that can talk, see and everything. I think that is more of an issue, meaning she is watching her husband just cheating on her with ppl like rose, and river or having Amy and rory doing it inside of her, is more weird and important look to look at🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@RileyJSilverman
@RileyJSilverman 3 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 I think you're right and the Name of the Doctor retcon is sort of the bridging gap here. The Impossible Girl tells the Doctor to take that broken TARDIS because he'll have more fun with it, but who's to say that it wasn't a previous version of the Doctor that had broken it to begin with?
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
@@RileyJSilverman true. Which is why I think with the Ruth doctor kind helps with that retcon too. Which is why maybe that tardis wants to be a the police box until the comics stated the 11th did it on purpose
@Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984
@Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984 3 ай бұрын
Ruth Doctor fits in between the 2nd and 3rd classic doctor. We never see the regeneration from 2 to 3. The time lord CIA could have made 2 regenerate into Ruth to do black ops then after that was done erased the memory and gave one extra regeneration when they made Ruth regenerate into 3.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
@@Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984 u are literally doing the definition of a retcon. No. Ruth doesn't fit in between 2nd and 3rd at all It is obvious she fits in before 1st. It isn't that hard
@Dalek_Scientist
@Dalek_Scientist 3 ай бұрын
15:21 the 3rd Doctor had one of those crisises. SHOES.
@JamieMallender
@JamieMallender 2 ай бұрын
This is the best Dr Who related video I’ve seen on KZbin. Excellent!
@firehawk2324
@firehawk2324 3 ай бұрын
Tom Baker was my first Doctor, back in the 80s. That's when Doctor Who was being shown on PBS late at night. I'd sneak into my older brother's room to watch it and absolutely fell in love with the show. This is the end, but the moment has been prepared for.
@Jiddy12345
@Jiddy12345 3 ай бұрын
Friend of mine got to interview Peter Davison. Very fun and good sport after said friend jokingly used a puppet to call him Peter Davidson and ask him what it's like being David Tennant's father in law.
@CrispyPro
@CrispyPro 3 ай бұрын
Regeneration is SUCH a genius idea. The show will last another 60 years because of it!
@Nightmare_Child
@Nightmare_Child 2 ай бұрын
I think the master actually wanted to be the doctor after finding out she was the timeless child because that means they would in effect become this super important being and the master has always had a superiority problem and he probably experienced ego death when he found out it was his greatest friend/enemy
@TheShadierTwin
@TheShadierTwin 3 ай бұрын
The TARDIS soapbox segment was so good, thank you!
@percysowner
@percysowner 3 ай бұрын
The only thing I think you missed was The Doctor NOT regenerating in Turn Left. There was a hand wave of he was shot then caught in a fire and couldn't regenerate, which is something that happened. It quite doesn't fit into the Timeless Child narrative, and we haven't heard of anything like it before. It's no biggie and led to a great episode, but it is one of the oddities of regeneration.
@Quirderph
@Quirderph 2 ай бұрын
Was the Timeless Child not fob-watched into a Galifreyan? And thus depowered?
@brettjohnson536
@brettjohnson536 2 ай бұрын
The Timeless Child wasn't a thing then, and there wasn't really anything saying you couldn't stop regenerations happening. Especially since they'd already established that time lords can choose to not regenerate and just die instead. Plus that was part of a split timeline that was being influenced by the bug, so maybe the rules were different there
@thevirgologychannel6215
@thevirgologychannel6215 3 ай бұрын
Not to be picky but their was also the 12 Doctors fake regeneration. Being able to start it and stop it at will. The thing about Doctor is that it evolves because their was no book or comic it was based upon and show runners will always add there sauce to it. Not to everyone’s taste but that’s is part of being a fan. My personal beef with regeneration was the sense of it being renewal in the classic era and then being death in the modern. Also I like Moffat’s interpretation said in the 50th anniversary “same software different case.” Whereas I felt that RTD just loved David Tenant and couldn’t let that incarnation fully go. I mean there are 3 versions of him. I always hated the conversion 10 had about dying and someone else standing up. For me that was about the actor not the character.
@queenie_bee
@queenie_bee 3 ай бұрын
This is my problem with it too. I'd be down if it had happened with an other version. It just feels like a popularity grab and like it can't let it go. Plus its already causing some fans to disregard Ncuti to whine about when Tennant is coming back AGAIN. Its an interesting concept, but it hasn't been used in a good way yet. Its just a backdoor emergency in case the ratings dip and can cause potential harm to the next actor taking over. The best thing going forward is to try to utilize some of the previous actors later in Ncuti's run. That way it can use the concept with more than the supposed favorite and get more people on board and more people seeing Ncuti hold his own.
@thevirgologychannel6215
@thevirgologychannel6215 3 ай бұрын
@@queenie_bee I largely agree. I think Ncuti’s portrayal has been somewhat diluted with the existence of David Tenant just kicking around Chiswick. It should be as the sixth Doctor says “I am the Doctor, whether you like it or not” it’s a very powerful statement to audiences to get over themselves. Ncuti hasn’t got that he will still have to compete and be compared with the likeliness of being overshadowed by the popular one.
@Flott874
@Flott874 3 ай бұрын
I watched your video about the dune 1 movie and really enjoyed it. I've just seen part 2 and was wondering if you might be able to make the same kind of video about it. Since you really made things clear for me in the part one video and now i've seen part 2 im still a bit confused haha
@jamesgreen6507
@jamesgreen6507 3 ай бұрын
A timelord can just regenerate you see Peter capalde give davros energy and matt smith fix rivers wrist if they want they could just take it all the way and regenerate
@Rocket1377
@Rocket1377 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's an ability they learned, not something that automatically happens when they are critically injured. The Master chose to not regenerate in the series 3 finale.
@salvsays
@salvsays 3 ай бұрын
Jodi can be a dr. But man they did her a huge disservice
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, anyone could've looked at the episodes Chibnall was involved with before the 12th doctor and had a pretty good idea that it didn't matter how good her acting could be, it was going to be bad.
@daveofyorkshire301
@daveofyorkshire301 17 күн бұрын
The restriction I took to be imposed by time lord society. There were examples - not least the Master who actually extended past this. We've seen in their prehistory leaders and villains that existed long after the supposed limitation of even loosing their body. So it implied the body wasn't the limitation, it was a societal limit. The Matrix of time lords minds also underpins this concept. Taking that in mind the body just becomes a vessel that Time Lords are capable of modifying to fix terminal issues.
@Oldo
@Oldo 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@SarahJaneSmith-gu6cc
@SarahJaneSmith-gu6cc 3 ай бұрын
One of my fave things about Doctor Who is the scope for imagination I can use to create my own head canon. There’s so much to reverse engineer…😁
@dgattenb
@dgattenb 3 ай бұрын
fab ... well thought out ... we have started on number 1 and are now on to baker last season .. ( BBC I player )
@kennethchia4194
@kennethchia4194 3 ай бұрын
This was great, well done Kyle.
@Charterstone
@Charterstone Ай бұрын
Even in "Deadly Assassin", Runcible acts like the Doctor changing appearances is strange for Time Lords... Having not seen him since school he studies the Doctor's face.... "Have you had a face lift?". Also the President is shot and doesn't regenerate, they make no mention of it being his last incarnation/etc.
@jerminfestedmedia
@jerminfestedmedia 3 ай бұрын
can we get sock puppets to replace all offensive portrayals? that'd be great for me
@matthewsander5887
@matthewsander5887 3 ай бұрын
As a barefooter, I'm offended by the idea of using socks for a portrayal. Please use paper bags instead.
@joshuaverran9443
@joshuaverran9443 3 ай бұрын
@jerminfestedmedia Oh piss off!.
@jerminfestedmedia
@jerminfestedmedia 3 ай бұрын
@@matthewsander5887 hahaha oh snap, as an Aussie I should have thought about peeps in thongs n sandals
@matthwe3468
@matthwe3468 2 ай бұрын
"You can't rewrite history, not one line."
@RabbiB0Y
@RabbiB0Y Ай бұрын
or just grow a pair?
@ZoahLord
@ZoahLord Ай бұрын
The way I see it, The Master regretted absorbing the Cyberium but didn't want to sacrifice an incarnation he enjoyed being...so used regeneration energy to force The Doctor into becoming a fresh version of his existing body for his mind to take-over
@Colechamdiceman
@Colechamdiceman 3 ай бұрын
I'm the worst kind of nerd because, honestly, his opinions on Tennants doc and a few other things he said in the 20-24 minute space might have moved me to hands if this were in person. I'm going to go and contemplate why opinions about fictional events and characters would move me to feeling that way and try to be a better person >.>
@empurress77
@empurress77 3 ай бұрын
I always wanted to see more about the Vallard.
@bubblesbybimmiebell4144
@bubblesbybimmiebell4144 3 ай бұрын
Preach it, Nerd Lord!
@Charterstone
@Charterstone Ай бұрын
The "Tulpa" of Cho-Je in Planet of the Spiders is very similar to the tulpas as shown in various episode of Twin Peaks, David Lynch being a big fan of transcendental meditation and Buddhism, this is not surprising. The Watcher in Logopolis seems to be another similar kind of tulpa (mental projection of a future regeneration just like Cho-Je was)
@dannyfromet6257
@dannyfromet6257 2 ай бұрын
That kind of links and possibly explain peter calpadi's regerenration
@MrDarthT
@MrDarthT 3 ай бұрын
The problem with bi-regeneration echoing back is that, how many David Tennants is that now? If he biregenerated when he regenerated in "Journey's End", that means that there are now 3 David Tennants running around in that story. And then he bi-regenerates again when he turns into Matt Smith? So now there are 2 David Tennants unaccounted for along with the Fourteenth Doctor and the Metacrisis Doctor.
@dannyfromet6257
@dannyfromet6257 2 ай бұрын
Basing it on the colin baker playing s different timelord tom baker could be a different time lord with one of the old doctors face.
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott 3 ай бұрын
I loved the 3rd doctor. He was stuck on earth because bbc slashes the budget… and they producers had no choice
@ahabasi
@ahabasi 3 ай бұрын
Doctor Who rookie here.. I saw only Tennant's seasons and half of Matt's. Can anyone tell me why I was sure he is the only living Timelord and he had something to do with destroying Gallifrey? But now I learn that apparently Timelords are very well, just banished him? 🙈 Is it some kind of error in my brain or it's somehow explained? Would love to know cause now it's gonna be killing me 🥲 Great video, thank you for sharing with us your knowledge ❤
@pucktheblackswordsman999
@pucktheblackswordsman999 3 ай бұрын
Go watch "The Day of the Doctor". It's the 50th anniversary special. Watching that will answer your question.
@ahabasi
@ahabasi 3 ай бұрын
@@pucktheblackswordsman999 thank you!
@pucktheblackswordsman999
@pucktheblackswordsman999 3 ай бұрын
@@ahabasi You're welcome. :)
@RileyJSilverman
@RileyJSilverman 3 ай бұрын
@@ahabasi In addition to the Day of the Doctor suggestion, another thing is that all of the Time Lord stories Kyle is describing in the classic series happened before the Time War that is being discussed in Tennant and Smith's years. The Time War starts in earnest during Paul McGann's Doctor's life, so every Doctor before him has dealings with the Time Lords (once they were introduced in canon) moreso than those after him, for the most part.
@joluoto
@joluoto 2 ай бұрын
Galifrey and other Timelords comes and goes. Sometimes the Doctor is the "last Timelord" and sometimes they just bring back Galifrey and other Timelords. I would not be surprised if we see another Galifrey is back story soon.
@James_Austin
@James_Austin 2 ай бұрын
So does 15 still have 10's memories? Or did he take that with him? Im so confused.
@user-hs1zh1se4c
@user-hs1zh1se4c 2 ай бұрын
I get that the planet of spiders monk by todays standards isnt appropriate but i really liked the character and the regeneration being his future incarnation wondering about and interacting with him only to disapear when he changes was a really cool concept. The romana regeneration although bent a lot of rules was also an interesting concept and although the dr hasnt just chose bodies at will it has been established he can influence the regeneration as 12 states he chose that face. Perhaps sime time lords can learn to manipulate their regenerations in ways not intended.
@zachattck1776
@zachattck1776 3 ай бұрын
Hey @Nerdist, I have a question about propulsion in space. I just dont see how rockets are able to produce thrust in a vacuum? I can see how the fuel is still able to ignite due to the possibility of having a fuel that produces its own oxygen like in little fireworks. How can you propell yourself in a zero g, vacuum type of environment?
@dawsonvaldes6004
@dawsonvaldes6004 21 күн бұрын
The Master possesses many abilities that some consider unnatural
@Aneurin_Hunt
@Aneurin_Hunt 3 ай бұрын
The clip of the first regeneration was in blue peter at some point. So that's how it still exists
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott 3 ай бұрын
Heaven sent was the episode that broke me.
@nardo218
@nardo218 3 ай бұрын
this this this this person. i wish to subscribe to his brochure. more with him! he is a High Quality, Non-Agressive, Non-Problematic (to women and minorities) Nerd. We need more nerds like this. A mench. A nerd, not a geek, who ENJOYS the material and isn't here to tear it down, but talk about the good and the bad but is generally optomistic about a property that he's loved since childhood, but not without recognizing that we're not kids anymore and some things we grew up with didn't age so well. I like this nerd!
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
Based comment but what is wrong with being a geek??
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 3 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Yeah I didn't get that either but agreed that it's based.
@nardo218
@nardo218 Ай бұрын
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe I honestly don't remember what I meant by that and I apologize to my geek friends. Nerds unite!
@TomoBakerinio
@TomoBakerinio 3 ай бұрын
i mean regeneration only happened cus hartnell's health was deteriorating during his time of filming and then it just turned into one of those main things of the show, making it continue for 60 years.
@trolleyfan
@trolleyfan 3 ай бұрын
I never understood the problem with a female Doctor. I mean, *fan-films* had been doing it (occasionally quite well) since the late 70s, early 80s. My head cannon on the twelve-regeneration limit was that they put it in place because regenerations keep getting more violent as you go on. I mean, the first few were basically lap dissolves. But by the 10th Doctor, he's putting out enough energy to damage the Tardis. And by Matt Smith...he's destroying Dalek battleships with the excess energy. Then Capaldi, new regeneration cycle, we're back to even less than a lap-dissolve.
@dxanatos2
@dxanatos2 3 ай бұрын
Also, the Time lords offered the Master additional regenerations if he worked for them in The Five Doctors, so either the limit is, as you said, artificial or they are born with a set number of regenerations, but they can be filled up again.
@RandomRoss
@RandomRoss 2 ай бұрын
You know what since Matt Smith regenerated the rules at this point are beyond broken and I need peace with this a long time ago.
@LeonidSaykin
@LeonidSaykin 4 күн бұрын
The show stopped carring about the quality when they give the Doctor a new 12 regeneration cycle
@joeknowslittle79
@joeknowslittle79 2 ай бұрын
The way British TV is structured is such that a 'series' is a set of episodes aired weekly for up to 8 weeks at any given time in a year. If a second series of episodes is aired in the same calendar year, it becomes the series second season.
@tardisuser756w14
@tardisuser756w14 3 ай бұрын
When "renewal" was first talked about, William Hartnell had a medical condition, (In fact, Doctor Who: The Three Doctors was the last time Hartnell was on television and his condition made it impossible for him to appear totally. According to the people filming Hartnell, he sat, looked at a camera, and read lines off of cue cards. Hartnell died in 1974, but I digress)So, Innes Lloyd came up with the "renewal" aspect where the Doctor would change bodies. At first, they wrote Troughton to be a younger, gruffer version of the Hartnell Doctor, then they tried to make him a pirate.. for...reasons. Finally, they asked Troughton how he wanted to play the Doctor and the Cosmic Hobo was born. Thus, each actor and actress has put his oe her stamp on the Doctor, but also referred to past Doctors as well and Ncuti will do the same.
@jimmerhoft
@jimmerhoft 2 ай бұрын
I maintain the best thing to do was make the Master the Timeless Child
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I thought he was called TenToo.
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 2 ай бұрын
It's obviously not deliberate writing; but the idea that the time lords pull from a science the implications of which they barely understand does fit them
@adisassy4579
@adisassy4579 3 ай бұрын
I feel like regeneration has lost it's touch over the last decade. The inclusion of the War Doctor being one of the reasons for me. The thought of a series lead passing the torch to the next actor is beyond fascinating. And as Hurt was not a seires lead, it kind of creates this 'in-between' Doctor paradox which we'd see way more of in the Timeless Child arc. Also, McGann only had 1 episode so sticking an extra regeneration between 8 and 9 ironically defeated this 'mysterious' incarnation persona as we barely knew about 8. Big Finish is very niche so I'm not counting it for this. However, if you do count Big Finish, then you'd know that 8 was set up to be the one to fight in the Time War. The Timeless Child just makes the Doctor automatically different from all the other Time Lords. What was interesting about him, is that he was a Time Lord like everyone else but he chose a completely different path to others which can relate to any outsider in life. Now there's no intrigue in the Doctor as a whole... At least for me. In general, the inbetween regeneration thing is something that frustrates me to my core and is essentially a way for writers like Moffat and Chibnall to stamp their names all over the lore. At least the first Davies era focused on being great in itself and now it's still the best era of the show.
@theoutcastboi
@theoutcastboi 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, although inbetween regenerations bother me less than them saying that the 10th Doctor again is somehow a "14th" Doctor (it's not, that's literally a textbook degeneration, not a new Doctor).
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The problem with the Timeless Child isn't the revelation itself; it's how little is done with it. Imagine if Star Wars had the "No, I am your father" line and then didn't do anything with it. Oh, and you missed 1 minor difference in 13 going to 14. Her clothes change. They'd made a pretty consistent point till that point of how the new doctor starts off wearing the old doctor's clothes then decides on their own outfit.
@RileyJSilverman
@RileyJSilverman 3 ай бұрын
In defense of the show for that little done with the Timeless Child part, overall I agree with you, but Flux happened because of the pandemic and the level of doubt there was that there would even be a series 13. Chibnall had a plan for the show that got pretty chucked out because they had to do a much more limited shoot and less episodes because of when they were filming and the risks and elevated costs involved. He did do stuff with it in Flux and the overall story of Flux was directly about Tectuen and the Doctor's mysterious past, but it was very rushed and truncated as it was. Trying to add more to it would have made it even more unwieldy, IMHO. As much as I hate that the Doctor dropped the watch away and the plot was kicked down the road for a future showrunner to deal with, it also feels like one of the only choices that he (Chibnall) had. Russell has already used it once, and now it's a mystery for the show to play with as is needed.
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 3 ай бұрын
@@RileyJSilvermanYeah, that's fair.
@theoutcastboi
@theoutcastboi 3 ай бұрын
> They'd made a pretty consistent point till that point of how the new doctor starts off wearing the old doctor's clothes then decides on their own outfit. Eh, that's only half true. The 2nd Doctor's outfit mostly changed during "renewal" - 2 started out wearing essentially his costume, sans jacket, although elements of the 1st Doctor's costume, such as his cloak and ring, remained. Additionally, the 4th Doctor's boots changed into socks and shoes during his regeneration into the 5th (though this more a production error than intended). But I'd agree the entire costume changing, with no element of the old costume remaining, is definitely out of the ordinary, and never explained. But then the entire costume changing with no explanation is the least of the sins of that """regeneration""" scene.
@heatherbritz2684
@heatherbritz2684 3 ай бұрын
Am I missing something in translation here??? I remember Jon Pertwee as The Doctor.
@dxanatos2
@dxanatos2 3 ай бұрын
I don't have an issue with the BI-Regeneration. TBH I'm happy with "The Toymaker did it" as explanation. The 2 Tardises i find a bit iffy though. I find it just a bit too easy.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
They literally explained how
@snbforever
@snbforever 3 ай бұрын
Where did the dude with the long hair go?
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this.
@kylerees3491
@kylerees3491 Ай бұрын
36:50 no the CIA and the Division are different organisations and I don't know where you got the information that they regenerated them after every mission
@mallockarcher
@mallockarcher 3 ай бұрын
An enjoyable video. I don't agree with everything you said but life would be boring if I agreed with everything everyone else said.
@brenderman7441
@brenderman7441 3 ай бұрын
I love how the brain of Morbius implied that the doctor was the timeless child
@adamgoss3638
@adamgoss3638 3 ай бұрын
You left out the Toymaker's claim that he made a jigsaw out of the Doctor's history, implying that the pre-Hartnell Doctors didn't actually exist originally UNTIL the Toymaker entered our spacetime and tinkered with the Doctor's past, which, given the fact that the Toymaker comes from another universe, makes some sense - he's not bound by the same rules. He's essentially Q, Mr. Mxyzptlk, the ultimate trickster. And while I don't love the whole Timeless Child/Division stuff, I do love this explanation and I love the Fugitive Doctor and NPH as the Toymaker. Besides it's not as if RTD or Moffat always got things right prior to Chibnall's tenure.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
Or no but he was part of the Flux and only effected the doctor of the later incarnation, nor before. Meaning, no he had nothing to do with the timeless child at all but maybe the time war and the Flux like how missy set things to place for the doctor too in 11th Era to 12th. Also maybe he meant by universe by his own dimension that the doctor destroyed and made his way back. Or he is from another universe where the doctor lost or something else.
@taker68
@taker68 3 ай бұрын
Regeneration doesn't make sense but all the other stuff in the show does? Ne ver bought the faces in Morbius were the Doctor's, why aren't they Morbius'? The Watcher is like K’anpo/Cho-je in POTS. Romana's change was a joke by Douglas Adams, I guess you can say one can regenerate and choose for a short period. The Doctor doesn't do that cause he changes via violence and is too on the move to do it properly. If he was on Gallifrey, it would be smoother. Maybe the hand cut off from X-Mas Invasion is like what Romana is doing. I feel the way about the last few years of the show the way you feel about the Colin Baker era. I will keep watching out of loyalty but my enthusiasm is low. Hope they prove me wrong.
@joecandora9748
@joecandora9748 2 ай бұрын
Timeless child is all explained by the other and the looms
@matthewche
@matthewche Ай бұрын
Character Assassins are not deadly
@carnivalecretins853
@carnivalecretins853 2 ай бұрын
Eh Timeless Child doesn't really make any difference, just a different regeneration cycle.
@rpmblack7892
@rpmblack7892 Ай бұрын
It literally changes the doctors life. It doesn't make his actions special he was just born special.
@MarvelX42
@MarvelX42 2 ай бұрын
There are parts of this sh.....stuff that I am going to ignore and noone can stop me.
@daliasaravia1443
@daliasaravia1443 3 ай бұрын
YOU WENT OFF!!! Thank you for addressing those who complain and lable everything under "woke"
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
Based comment
@zutai1
@zutai1 3 ай бұрын
i wonder if david tenent dr, will regenerate into the old faces, and become the curator, leaving his dr title for the 15th, heading off to keep saving the worlds. it was said that 14 was tired. too much running. so, give him time to slow down. look at the smaller things. save the world by staying home.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
Meaning he is going be the curator
@zutai1
@zutai1 3 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 but, how long does it take him to get there? how long does he stay there? how much do we get to see?how much impact does it have on the dr we follow?
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
@@zutai1 does it matter???
@zutai1
@zutai1 3 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 more is more.
@HotDogTimeMachine385
@HotDogTimeMachine385 3 ай бұрын
Good video!
@RabbiB0Y
@RabbiB0Y Ай бұрын
why is it so hard for folks to pronounce dalek?
@tubian323
@tubian323 8 күн бұрын
Well no, if Doctor Who had to make sense it wouldn't be the same.😆
@B-MC
@B-MC 3 ай бұрын
This was really good! Ive been complaining a lot about Bi-Regeneration and this helped me realise my issue isnt at all the logic itself, just that some regenerations feel more dramatically earned than others. Meaningful endings, not necessarily well-established science rules. (Like i have absolutely no issue with Gatwa using 'rope logic' to figure out how to create a pulley system) The process itself isnt an issue, but like, Eccleston sacrificed himself for Rose after she looked into heart of the tardis, Tennant sacrificed himself for Wilf after 4 knocks, Smith accepted his grave and Clara reminded the timelords they owe him one (from the literal previous episode), capaldi hugged his companions after 3 seasons of arc, they had long-established emotional or pre-established tools to create opportunities with and then THOSE things come up during the regeneration to make it feel earned. 14 just survives a laser and splits into two because... because... uh... like i dont take issue with the strange magic side of it, its a great novelty, but just within the story itself it dramatically pops out of nowhere. It doesnt have that Emotional sense of setup and payoff the others have. Its not completely lacking, Gatwa represents emotional support to a weary doctor, but that weary doctor plotline feels so seperate to the literal physical threat of "games trickster-esque chaos god" that i dont feel like bi-regeneration was warned the way the others connected the situation to the antagonism and to the regeneration. Id love if someone could explain to me how the toymaker is directly antagonising 14's supposed need to retire. He just seems like a incidental force to pass time and while NPH Is really good, both together dont cohesively work for me. (Ive been thinking about it a lot and i havent put up a video on The Giggle yet because how i feel about is so torn between self-contained chaos and overarching Kinda-Setup-Payoff-Good-Enough-I-Guess. So im open to 'no you're wrong and here's why'. I dont need a scientific explanation for the magic but i do feel its lacking a dramatic metaphor and falls on shock-value gimmick a bit too much. Or maybe im just thinking about it a lot deeper than I used to, but i swear despite some deus ex machinas here and there it didnt struggle with setup and payoff this much (when it comes to the really good episodes)
@stanleydude3340
@stanleydude3340 2 ай бұрын
They shpuld retcon certain doctors out of existence go make life easier for the writers
@jonh9529
@jonh9529 3 ай бұрын
@32:20, @33:41 I'm glad someone finally pointed out the diversity these sci-fi shows already tried to aim for.
@daveofyorkshire301
@daveofyorkshire301 17 күн бұрын
8:45 so a sock puppet is less offensive than an actor? When did it become necessary to have the right race to play a part, the only condition was the ability to act the part and look reasonably akin to the role you're playing... By removing the actor I think you've done something far more offensive.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 3 ай бұрын
Just on the subject bit on the character K'ampo and Cho-je the monk character your referring to in "Planet of the Spiders" I think that's abit of an exaggeration and abit of over sensitivity there on your part I don't agree with you that he was intended to be a "racist" character I think Kevin Lindsay who was an australian actor who also played original Sontaran Linx in "The Time Warrior" and another Sontaran in "The Sontaran Experiment" was superb in that role in "Planet of the Spiders" and I never heard anyone or even remotely mentioned by anyone or complained that this role was intended to be a "yellowface" he was only acting like a Tibetan he wasn't wearing any "yellowface" make-up we never noticed it as being racist because it's not it wasn't by any means at all suppose to be offensive you have to remember diverse casting was very hard to come by in those days but I thought he pulled off the role nicely and that character help assured us that we were going to lose this incarnation of the Doctor but to remember its the same character and he's not dying I treasure that scene and the most memorable so no I totally disagree with you you can't fault a time when it was the norm of the time when people play different cultural characters no more different to a say if a black actress was playing Ann Bolyn and we shouldn't call people bigots just because we have a different opinion to them that's their human right whether we agree to it or not. "Planet of the Spiders" is for me the best regeneration story of all time it's epic and I love that the Third Doctor quietly fades away and dies peacefully which you don't often get in today's Dr. Who I like the fade effect I didn't think it was lame at all. If you love vandalised and destroyed story lore good for you but i think it completely ruins it yes the show should evolve but there's some elements that should remain the unchanged the bi-generation was absolute rubbish and complete fanfiction there was absolute no real need for that, that would mean no consequence, no drama, and separating the fact that the Doctor isn't the same as all the others it completely ruins the magic of regeneration it's just lazy pure laziness RTD is desperate for a cash grab which is one of the reasons he brought David Tennant as a new incarnation which I think was also a big mistake that was purely done as a desperation The 13th Doctor (Jodie Whittaker) should had changed into straight into Ncuti Gatwa if this bi-generation becomes an ongoing thing that's just going to switch alot of people off from watching because there be no point in watching it because the consequence and drama are no longer there it's just unimaginative lazy writing. The Timeless child is also complete rubbish and fanfiction it's called "Doctor Who" for a reason to keep the mystery of the Doctor's backstory hidden so it completely diminishes that so there would be no point in calling it "Doctor Who".
@BigGwenStrikesAgain
@BigGwenStrikesAgain Ай бұрын
Gosh, the pomposity is ludicrous
@amcdonald7479
@amcdonald7479 2 ай бұрын
last few doctors...unwatchable
@joecandora9748
@joecandora9748 2 ай бұрын
Terrible summary truly awful
@warblerab2955
@warblerab2955 2 ай бұрын
As far as I am concerned, the Capaldi Doctor failed to regenerate and the Doctor died. The end.
@Raptor44256
@Raptor44256 3 ай бұрын
You know what’s always been a winning strategy? Gaslighting the fans and telling them they should like a thing that they don’t like.
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 3 ай бұрын
So exactly what u are doing when u aren't even a fan nor watch the show
@Raptor44256
@Raptor44256 3 ай бұрын
@@kuggacouragegx6093 you.
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 3 ай бұрын
You know that's not what gaslighting means, right? Not to mention he's not even saying "you should like this thing you don't like".
@Raptor44256
@Raptor44256 3 ай бұрын
@@alistairetheblu then tell me, what does gaslighting mean.
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 3 ай бұрын
@@Raptor44256You could've just googled it, but sure. "To manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning." Basically telling someone the things they saw/felt/experienced didn't actually happen. The closest what you described is to that is if you thought they were telling you "you actually DO like this thing you say you don't like", similar to saying homophobes are closeted...but again, that's not what this video is saying at all.
@jamescagley6248
@jamescagley6248 Ай бұрын
Way to much whining in this video about old Who not being Woke enough. Woke is ruining the show, as it has so many others. The problem with Doctor Who isn't changing gender of race when regenerating. The problem is forcing pronoun garbage on fans and all the talk about sexuality. The show doesn't need to be a Woke/DEI forum every episode as it has become. Let's continue with the Doctor being able to change gender and race when regeneration occurs but cut out promoting all the garbage Woke agenda. That is what is ruining the show. Writers and showrunners and media pushing agendas on the public.
@EYYYYYJustin
@EYYYYYJustin 2 ай бұрын
Not showing part of the show because... "racism"? I beg your pardon?
@rpmblack7892
@rpmblack7892 Ай бұрын
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