Doctor Who: The Doctor kills Shockeye - The Two Doctors

[@tost6956]

The music is so funky and creepy simultaneously... that's the 80s for you

[@jeffman-ky1dh]

I thought this scene where Shockeye gets killed with cyanide by the Sixth Doctor is a great scene showing how he acted in self-defense. Shockeye was trying to kill the Sixth Doctor and had to defend himself, a justifiable homicide. Loved it when the Sixth Doctor said to Shockeye after killing him "Your just desserts",,,,LOL.

[@Alexg1561-t4m]

Almost Bond-esque haha

[@Foebane72]

Many people may have hated this scene in the day, like "why did the Doctor have to be so cold-blooded?" but you have to remember, the Doctor was FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE HERE!!

[@tardistime6857]

Exactly he was pushed to his limits

[@rndompersn3426]

Its the cold James Bond liner that makes it come off as cold. There was also a similar scene I think Vengeance on Varos where someone dies in acid and the Doc says "mind if i dont join you". A better line would be "I wish I hadnt had to do that" or something. This just makes him sound like a psychopatth.

[@Foebane72]

@@rndompersn3426In Varos, two men are preparing to put the (supposedly dead) Doctor into the acid pool. When they're not looking, the Doctor wakes up, startles them both (one man knocks the other into the acid pool) and the remaining man fights with the Doctor, who is almost pushed into the pool. Then the man who went in reaches in and pulls in his comrade and they both die by their own hand while trying to kill the Doctor. Self-defence again!

[@jamm6_514]

Y'all have to remember too that one incarnation later this very Doctor made a species commit genocide on itself- The time war changed the doctor into the man who never would

[@arzfan29]

Plus, he has a history of being cold blooded, pretty much every doctor has multiple points where they just kill a villain with no remorse

[@dariowestern]

It was not the first time that the Doctor had killed an enemy with cyanide - he did the same thing to the evil Dr. Solon in The Brain Of Morbius when Solon tried to revive the Time Lord war criminal.

[@archive9796]

The man who never would

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

*always

[@thelonggame9583]

Yo dalek cactus, you are literally in every doctor who comments

[@TankZane]

I was 9 years old when this aired and I had no problem with this scene at all.

[@kerravon4159]

Surgeon General's Warning: If you're ever pursued by a sabre-wielding maniac, dont try this, it requires vast amounts of plot armor that most people just dont have.

[@jcortese3300]

Shockeye was such an amazing character and so well acted. He starts out in an almost comedic vein, but by the time he's done in, he's just pure evil and has got to go.

[@Enzo012]

He wasn't considered evil on his home planet he only seemed evil to us?

[@DarthAzabrush]

@@Enzo012 "Morality is rrrrrrrelative to where ye happen to be standing at the moment"- The Seventh Doctor.

[@Eltonlaleham]

The way the 6th Doctor kills Shockeye was scary but it had to been done sadly, because the Doctor said Androgums cannot be dealt with easily by humans or Time Lords so the Doctor used cyanide to defend himself against Shockeye and Mary Whitehouse complained about the violence as she usually did silly woman .

[@dariowestern]

I wish more Doctors could be as aggressive and ruthless as the 6th Doctor.

[@yccallumgames6321]

I love this scene shockeye gets what he deserves

[@tost6956]

er he's been... mothballed!

[@jamieolberding7731]

I hate cannibals! Shockeye should already know that normal people don't eat people!

[@danielwilliamson6180]

The Doctor avenges Oscar Botcherby.

[@dawgtheundying5303]

Makes sense, the Doctor laughs like Joker in the Twin Dilemma

[@EditedAF987]

Jamie Olberding Shockeye isn’t a cannibal, he’s an androgum not a human. Still a nasty piece of work though

[@secretsymphony]

Colin was very good with one-liners. If he had been classically handsome, he could have played Bond...

[@Freezer28528]

He was handsome

[@secretsymphony]

@@Freezer28528 I'm sure he was for many people. However, I'm talking about classically handsome. It's a certain look. Having said that, I'm not sure Daniel Craig could be considered classically handsome. He got around it by dressing well and turning himself into a bodybuilder.

[@jamesbevan9939]

Funny enough, Pierce Brosnan was almost considered for the role of Commander Maxil (Colin's role in "Who" before he was cast as the Doctor)

[@Thatminiacecosplayer]

I loved the 6th doctor he was really good. And I loved this episode I have it on dvd.

[@tirsotanjr]

"like a penguin with its arse on fire"

[@lukechopper22]

His leg was cut

[@archive9796]

That's not nice He had a companion who was a penguin

[@TheSkully343]

Poor Frobisher.

[@archiefraser8927]

Well technically Frobisher was a whifferdill (a shapeshifter) so he wasn't exactly a penguin but he did stick with the penguin form for so long you could count him as one

[@DarthAzabrush]

@@archive9796 Who frequently set himself on fire too...

[@tv6thdoctor946]

Not my best work. Could’ve made it so much painful.

[@GarryH1963]

I'm surprised Shockeye still stayed loyal to Chessini after the way she zapped him earlier and double crossed him.

[@oufcfan5100]

love the two doctors

[@chriszone50]

OUFC fan Yes, Collin Baker had his best outfit here because it was more casual and it is one of his best stories.

[@tost6956]

I laughed way more than I should have at the last line

[@TheSkully343]

Six had some fantastic one liners and puns. "Forgive me if I don't join you" - Vengeance on Varos after he tosses two guards in an Acid bath. "No 'arm in trying" - Revelation of The Daleks when Bostok blasts Davros's hand to pieces.

[@julietfischer5056]

Bad jokes and epic one-liners carry from Doctor to Doctor.

[@Djarra]

Best one liner in 'Vengence of Varos' was at the end when Sil is calling for water and he quips "He needs more than water Perri hay" at the time Perrier was advertised with the slogan 'More than Water' I always assumed that one was Colin rather than the script. Incidentally in the 90s Colin was the first Doctor to also play Bond recording radio versions of Flemmings shorts for R4. More recently Tennent has played Bond on the radio.

[@DarthAzabrush]

@@TheSkully343 The best bit of the Revelation confrontation was improvised. Colin held his hand out for Davros to shake and that look of disgust on Terry Malloy's face was pretty much him cringing at how simultaneously awesome and awful that action was.

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

0:02 running when the storm is coming behind you

[@cynicalwho4039]

This is one of my favourite stories it's brilliant! More two doctors clips please!

[@mayotango1317]

Back when the audience enjoyed the violence of the series, now everyone is whining and crying when the Eleventh Doctor kills Solomon for murdering the Silurian colony and the same with Silence with his own weapon.

[@peylix-ohm4701]

What a hypocrite.

[@mayotango1317]

Excuse me, but I really can not stand Tennant being a gelding and useless excuse of pacifist who his plans never works.

[@peylix-ohm4701]

You think I'm the cancer of the fandom for not liking nuwho, yet here you are, throwing a temper tantrum at the RTD era.

[@mayotango1317]

Oh, I did not know you're a Tennant lover.

[@peylix-ohm4701]

A Tennant lover? Can't stand him, he's the main reason why nuwho is shit.

[@EditedAF987]

1:44, interesting that they chose to play the Doctor Who theme as he’s suffocating Shockeye. Considering that it’s somewhat muffled by the sharp stings, I wonder if it’s meant to feel triumphant or ominous.

[@oldoldmeme]

Everyone in the comments saying "back when violence was okay in doctor who, now they're too scared to have any violence in new who" doesn't grasp the fact that the doctor in the revival series is a man who had just been involved in the greatest war in history, literally committed genocide against his own race (or so he thought), of course he's opposed to violence now, it reminds him of the absolute terror that was the Time War and all the things he did.

[@DarthAzabrush]

A War which couldn't have actually happened in the proper Whoniverse and even if it some how did would result in a distinct lack of Time and Space left forever.

[@TranscendentLion]

If he's opposed to violence now, he's got a funny way of showing it. The supposedly peaceful post-War Doctor tortured a Dalek, drowned some spider children, incited genocide against the Silents, impaled the Half-Face Man, and had the gall to tell people that he 'never would'.

[@novawolf_gaming]

@@DarthAzabrush No... No it wouldn't

[@novawolf_gaming]

@@TranscendentLion That's because he still has Post-War Trauma

[@DarthAzabrush]

@@novawolf_gaming Deadly Assasin and Invasion of Time both make it clear that the slightest deviation in the Quatum Shield can unwrite the entirity of the Whoniverse. Even the Daleks aren't stupid enough to pick a fight on those terms even if they had the technological capability which they didn't have before the Movellans trounced them into the dirt and the Doctor blew up the rest of them.

[@DarthAzabrush]

The Doctor Wins.... FATALITY!

[@tv6thdoctor946]

🙂 🦵🦵

[@SmilingSynic]

Doctor acting like Arnold Schwartzenegger here, making a witty comment after dispatching the bad guy, lol.

[@azurerainbow4637]

Shockeye got his just desserts for killing an innocent man earlier and for trying to kill the Doctor.

[@meris8486]

Family show by the way

[@brandonthemainstreetelectr1204]

1:42 loud synth

[@ZeyphodZeyphod]

He (Shockeye) wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Setting aside the whole pursuing the Doctor plot he acted like every human he met was on the menu. Okay "Androgums" (the race Shockeye was a part of) were described as stronger than humans on average but he was just one man. Armed with merely bladed weapons on a planet with billions of humans many of whom were as well or better armed. He could easily while he was chasing the Doctor in fairly densely populated Italy have come across some armed police, soldiers, farmers hunters etc.; they likely wouldn't have taken it very well watching him chow down on someone or discovering the aftermath of such.

[@Foebane72]

I love this story because of the fascinating concept of the Androgums in general, and the way Shockeye describes his gargantuan repast in Oscar's restaurant as "a mere snack" just fires the imagination as to how much food (and meat in particular) would satiate an Androgum like Shockeye!

[@Enzo012]

I don't think Doctor wasn't there when the use of cyanide in a jar to kill the moths was mentioned. Perhaps he got that info from a telepathic link?

[@nelsondestefano4150]

I think the doctor is smart enough to recognize cyanide when he sees it, regardless of prior information

[@benjaminhopley3045]

Why tf is the doctor running does he not know kong fu lol 😂

[@Foebane72]

The Doctor said earlier that Androgums were so strong that even a Time Lord and a human couldn't possibly take one on.

[@Deciheximal]

He didn't have the ingredients to make chloroform?

[@marcusharmes1214]

a great scene

[@willhorting5317]

But did he really kill him, or just put him unconscious? (I have never seen this episode.)

[@extraincomeuk635]

He killed him

[@willhorting5317]

@@extraincomeuk635 ok

[@jasons2023]

Stuff was cyanide

[@octaviusfooks7194]

Chloroform?

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

1:01 setting traps in fortnite like

[@amandajenkins4026]

Liking ur own comment are u🙄

[@trekintandem]

So much for a compassionate, non-violent Doctor.

[@dariowestern]

I'd really like to see someone like Ade Edmondson play the next Doctor who swears and uses violence and killing to destroy the baddies. The show is often too sanitized for its own good.

[@mrblobby7864]

trekintandem But the guy was a cannibal...

[@Foebane72]

Shockeye had murdered an innocent human, and the Doctor was himself wounded by the Androgum. In a way, the Doctor was defending himself AND avenging the human.

[@prydonianprofessor6257]

He was literally fighting for his life against a murdering canibal who cuts people up and eats them.

[@savedbyjesusblood]

Two humans actually he killed an old lady in the beginning of the show. He also tried to eat Peri. The Doctor was fully justified in making sure Shockeye met a shocking end.