Doctor Zhivago - Scene on Road

[@williambelden6711]

Always for me, this is perhaps the most powerful scene in the movie.

[@stonesinmyblood27]

This scene had stuck with me for decades.

[@rotorportor3119]

With me too. The only scene I remember from this movie is exactly this scene.

[@ericericson3535]

Like all David Lean movies, great cinematography, superb casting, and a musical score to die for!

[@FRANKTHRING1]

I have always adored the old Tsarist officer with the clipped white moustache. He just embodies reaction so beautifully.

[@RobertOToole-v5g]

My father was prop man on this film. As he was due to be in Madrid making the film for most of if not all of 1965. The family (mother, brother, sister and me) came out to Madrid in the June of that year. I as a ten-year lad would sometimes accompany my father on some of the location work. Which brings me to the above sequence. Obviously, the scene took many days to film, and I was there for just one day. But I have clear memory of watching the crew set up and film the tracking shot(s) of the marching troops. Fun fact it was June and hot! I understand that David Lean credited the Property Master Eddie Fowlie, the creator of the winter scenes in film (and my dad’s direct boss) for Special Effects to get Eddie an Oscar. It failed as all the reviewers believed the winter stuff was real!

[@joandasilou]

The captain standing on the barrel is the portuguese actor Virgílio Teixeira.

[@helencampbell4900]

I have never heard of that particular actor but he was very good looking.

[@joandasilou]

@@helencampbell4900 He was said to look a lot like US actor Tyrone Power. And his son, Pedro Teixeira, another actor, is also said to be good looking. Idk... : kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGqzfqGAm9KHfac

[@Rozsaphile]

Perhaps dubbed? The voice sounds English.

[@retirednavy8720]

One of the best movies ever made.

[@bobflendorg1064]

Notice the soldiers are equipped with Spanish Mauser M-1893 Rifles. I understand from a comment below that much of the film was shot in Spain.

[@exchequerguy4037]

A lot of big-budget films, plus spaghetti westerns, were filmed in Spain in the 1960's. Generalissimo Franco made sure his countrymen cooperated.

[@robertmunoz7543]

Reality also was russia couldn't supply the army so you will see a few photos with foreign weapons issued!🤔 Kinda like in ukraine 2024🙄 Jman

[@oleggorky906]

@@exchequerguy4037And Salazar, who was equally of a vicious nationalistic and parochial disposition was the neighbouring ruler in Portugal. They were still learning the hard way; having not been involved in either of the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century, they were yet to realise that they would also have to bow to the inevitable and give up their colonies soon. Portugal’s insular position in politics was enough to save it from involvement in those wars, but they were taken by surprise when the spirit of independence ran through Africa and Asia, like a hot knife through butter, being asleep to the social changes that were taking place in the world at that time, and the reasons for them.

[@2TrackMind-c6i]

@@oleggorky906 Not involved???? The Spanish Revolution just entered the chatroom. THE precursory conflict to the Second World War, fought between Nationalist (Nazi-supported) and Communist (Soviet supported) factions. A testing ground for new weapons and tactics that were seen in WW2.

[@tomnoname1372]

@@2TrackMind-c6i Plus, the Blue Division fought in Russia.

[@LibertyFirst1789]

Oh, history, you are always on our minds.

[@markfortin3502]

was there ever a moment in this film where Julie Christie did not look absolutely stunning?

[@mayaram2411]

History may be repeating itself.

[@bluecanary1note]

Such mutinies (in reality) must have been reenacted many times at that time. Effectively the real beginning of the Russian Revolution. In the film, this mutiny scene is one of the best parts. I don't know what you mean by hilarious, but I agree it is a classic scene in the film.

[@torefancello4791]

Te faci de cocoi se

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

fun fact the Frech shot over 900 of their own men in ww1. they are the Number 1 army in Europe for military executions in ww1.

[@David-or8qn]

That "thin veneer" (order) of civilization can be peeled off so easily and quickly if the situation is just right. This road scene is a very good example. Has happened many times in the past, and we will see it again.

[@ideamaker]

Hopefully!!!

[@joebombero1]

Portland, Oregon and Minneapolis.

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

Bane: Do you feel in charge?

[@Infernal460]

These soldiers were sent hell, and could expect nothing to improve if they won. The Czarist goverment brought doom upon themselves.

[@gwrthwynebiad]

And civilization consists in marching to the trenches and the organized mass slaughter of a world war?

[@wilfieherron8667]

Such an underrated film

[@PetrPechar1975]

Six Oscars and 8th most domestically grossing movie of all times (when adjusted for inflation). Your definition of "underrated" is pretty strange.

[@leoz8440]

wilfie herron it’s not underrated, it just not known to modern audiences

[@jaysonbiggs8979]

Wrong. Multiple Academy Awards. On the American Film Institute list of the Top 100 Films of all time.

[@tescheurich]

Is it? Rated just about right, I reckon.

[@ideamaker]

The best scene arguably is when the captain falls through the barrel and gets shot!

[@johnstitt2615]

Same needs to happen to the Russian oligarchs of today. Scumbags. Starting with Putin.

[@daustin8888]

2:54 Next time you feel like I insulting Russian communists just remeber this...they invented crowd surfing

[@gavinhudson5251]

😂

[@AllenbysEyes]

My favorite scene.

[@jaysonbiggs8979]

Scenes like this actually happened during WWI when Russian troops abandoned the front by the millions, killing their commanding officers. The officer with the big white mustache was a real officer. A major officer in the Czar's army. He looked just like that in real life. I think he was killed similar to this in real life. By the way, the exact same thing happened with American troops during the later years of the Vietnam War. On a smaller scale. Individually. It was called fragging. It is not uncommon in war.

[@paxmule]

Sometimes the little guys win!

[@charlesward8196]

When you are in combat, anyone who acts in a manner that will get you needlessly injured or killed is your enemy, hence the attrition of “butter-bars” in-country.

[@PunkSlapper123]

Yes, it has probably happened in every war on earth. It is not uncommon, especially when morale is low and things are going poorly.

[@johnw8984]

In Vietnam it was called "fragging" on u.s. infantry officers around 1969-71 who wanted to be a little bit too gung-ho when the Vietnamese Civil War which we had no reason being involved in was coming to a close.

[@catherineelizabethslaatteb5721]

And Now it's Ukraina Time in Year of 2022 ♍

[@overcastandhaze]

When everyone just wants to go home, and someone stands in their way.

[@emmerentiagroenewald3694]

Like now in 2023: putin....

[@itccsoffice8260]

The same happened on the western front. My grandfather and his Canadian battalion often fraternized with the Germans when the higher up officers weren't around.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

i hope they at least took the opportunity to trounce them at hockey. wouldn't be sportsmanlike otherwise HEHEHE.

[@aylmer666]

one wack thing about this scene (along with a lot of the movie) is that even though it's supposed to be winter and there's "snow" on the ground, you can't see anyone's breath when they talk.

[@kennethdarden2687]

That's because a great deal of it was filmed in Spain, where the temperature was around 77°.

[@michaelmartinez6419]

+Kenneth Darden Why do you think they shot in Spain then and not entirely in Finland (they just shot some of the train scenes there as far as I know)??

[@kennethdarden2687]

+Michael Martinez Affordability, easier to access locale, and it is much easier to keep a large crowd and crew warm in Spain than Finland.

[@bobflendorg1064]

Also the fact that the soldiers in the scene are clearly equipped with surplus Spanish M-1893 Mauser rifles. If they had filmed it in Finland they could have been historically accurate and used Russian Mosin-Nagant M-1891 rifles. The Finns had thousands of surplus M-91 rifles which they had captured from the Russians during the Winter and Continuation Wars. Many of these Finnish M-91 rifles eventually found there way here to the U.S.

[@johnjarou2357]

minor point.

[@Tsumami__]

Meanwhile Lara is just chillin in the med wagon away from the melee. I'd do the same,ha.

[@PaulMichaelJohnson]

Let's just say it is in her interest to not be noticed.

[@frankkoester847]

YOUR Country!! - and as long your are not willing to understand what these two words means here - there is nothing to discuss at all!!

[@JamesParsonsDunckervon]

Frank Koester yawn.

[@DrCruel]

*BANG*

[@nadiemequire]

Many historians agree that this is where crowd surfing originated.

[@user-vy1hk6wx2w]

This was probably the most famous movie because it brought out the horrors of war

[@exchequerguy4037]

This incident gets a single sentence in the novel.

[@timmellin2815]

@@exchequerguy4037 That shows you how a great screenwriter can visualize what would work viscerally on screen, but only as a passing mention in the book.

[@Charliecomet82]

"YOUR country, officer!" reminds me of the part in "Chinatown" when Evelyn Mulwray tells Jake "He OWNS the police!"

[@Infernal460]

He's correct the czarist goverment did not give a dam about the rank and file.

[@timmellin2815]

@@Charliecomet82 I've always wondered about the actor who yelled that. He also was the one who said: "God rot good men" in the carriage w/ Lara. (Julie Christie's facial visceral reaction to him saying that, is amazing....she stared knives at him.)

[@mr.mxyzptlk3994]

Many more deserters than replacements. Speaks volumes.

[@Rickwmc]

Scott makes an excellent observation. Wealth distribution has plagued humanity for 3,000 years and it's just as bad today as it ever was.

[@exchequerguy4037]

Sorry, no. In the old days, the poor often faced starvation while rich had plenty to eat. Now poor people consume more calories than do rich people.

[@Ferda1964]

we are able to feed the people though , it would be a mistake to compare mass starvation to a situation where you have to take a bus instead of driving a Porsche to work

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

honestly i would say its even worse now because digital currency makes it much easier to control it. we see this with US sanctions.

[@AlexAlex-p3n6l]

​@@exchequerguy4037 IT is also about quality over quantity-poor people eats junk food even when they do not want to in many cases

[@williamgill_esq.6487]

Actually there is a HUGE middle class now throughout the world. And dramatically less extreme poverty.

[@annaderosa3330]

Per il TUO PAESE! Per la TUA CASA!. DOVREMMO MORIRE? Mi ricorda quello che sta' succedento adesso.

[@piotrtwardowski3624]

Who is watching because of Prigozhin's coup?

[@yackawaytube]

What exactly happened at @1:29. I've always wondered...

[@aylmer666]

+yackawaytube yeah that part never really rang true for me either. Like that one guy just "cracked under pressure". It couldn't have been that simple. This whole scene I suppose must be taken in as allegorical and an accelerated view of the corruption of the minds of the new recruits that was spread by the defeatist veterans.

[@TirsoErnestoCastilloDeLemos]

Tenia 12 años cuando vi esa escena, inolvidable, El inició de la Revolución rusa!!!

[@helixator3975]

So that’s how crowd surfing was invented!

[@JamesFlemingIreland]

A great movie, but the real beginning of the revolution was by the women textile workers striking on International Working Women's Day. The strike spread across the city to other factories, then men started coming out too. There was massive police violence against them, yet they persisted. That was February. 9 months later, after October, the workers had gained power of the old Tsarist empire. There was no violence this time. They simply occupied all the key points of industry and power and controlled them for themselves. 6 people died, all a result of accidents.

[@timmellin2815]

@@JamesFlemingIreland Is that the point and the reason where the old soldier exclaims: "But Lenin.....in Moscow...!! " Was he able to be there because of the striking workers controlling those key points you mentioned ?

[@brucetucker4847]

The workers didn't control anything for long. Lenin and most of his his cronies were bourgeois intellectuals and politicians, not workers or peasants

[@richardbanker3910]

This scene is emblematic composite of the Revolution, probably the initial February one. Lenin was abroad initially and later came to Russia where he jumped from “not expecting a revolution in his lifetime” to considering rightly a revolution was possible in six months (October).Lenin didn’t feature in the book or film but I always thought Strelnikov was modelled on Trotsky.

[@RD-ft7js]

Robotnicy niczego nie zdobyli , a na pewno nie zdobyli władzy.. Dalej byli gnębieni, tylko teraz przez komunistów...

[@RD-ft7js]

Robotnicy nie zdobyli żadnej władzy !!! Byli takimi samymi niewolnikami przed rewolucją ,jak i po rewolucji... Po rewolucji ich sytuacja jeszcze się pogorszyła , bo zostali wywożeni do łagrów ,czyli obozów koncentracyjnych do niewolniczej pracy !!!! PRECZ Z KOMUNISTYCZNĄ CENZURĄ !!!!!!!!!!

[@luismachado6264]

This could be the russian troops coming back from ukraine nowadays....🤔

[@vincemoran587]

But it won't be. They still fight, despite the lies of the US media that you believe. Stop being their cuck and do the research. Ukraine is run by fascists. Do the research. Apply critical thinking instead of being told what to think. 😁

[@alexn42]

2024-03-12 looks like it’s happening from Ukraine back to Russia

[@MichaelBehrndt]

What a foolish joke!😮

[@fultonjackwaterloo4085]

Wrong answer, guy ..

[@nicolafiliber3062]

Looks like Ukrainian troops returning from frontlines

[@DavidMims-g1s]

Great movie, right up there with Debbie Does Dallas!!!😂😮😊

[@ChrisSmith-lo2kp]

the music makes the scene

[@j.dasilva4567]

This scene depicts the Bolsheviks' betrayal of Russia

[@charlietheanteater3918]

2:17-2:27 Hey, my life right now

[@HelenWietlisbach]

There is much to learn from this scene

[@reeseasmr2511]

then they helped usher in one of the greatest maniacal regimes and political philosophies the world has known. People starved, cannibalism, utter fear and a crushing state.

[@Ballarattrumpetguy]

Unlike the oligarchy the U.S. has become I suppose?

[@carlabroderick5508]

@@Ballarattrumpetguy Whatever US problems, they are not the deaths of 100 million including the Ukrainian Holodomor and the Gulag System documented by Solzenhitzen.

[@brandongreen4880]

The best scene is that old man being brought down.

[@pod831]

No, poor old guy murdered by a heartless mob.

[@brandongreen4880]

Holden Fitzroy Heartless Mob ? No they were shaking off tyranny.

[@DrCruel]

One band of criminals out to rob another. Not much for the Bolsheviks to be proud of.

[@oilersridersbluejays]

And invited in an even worse tyranny

[@brandongreen4880]

oilersridersbluejays and did they know any better ? One bunch of criminals to another. BUT the following jerks (communists) at least had a philosophy behind them. Of course practiced as never intended but that's what an ethos is for right ?

[@centralpete6044]

2:18 I was maybe 6 or 7 watching this movie with parents (while I also played with my Adventure People). I vividly recall seeing this scene and asking my parents why the man shot him after he fell in the barrel of water? Let’s just say they couldn’t give me a satisfactory answer. As an adult later in life I watched this movie in its entirety and nearly jumped out of my seat when I saw this scene again (recalling it from childhood) and could understand the context. I didn’t get to watch a lot of Sesame Street or other children’s programming but as a little kid got to watch great movies like Papillon, the Sand Pebbles, Gone With the Wind, Tora, Tora, Tora, Midway, Bridge Over the River Kwai and many others.

[@VivKittie32]

To Vlad Lenin's statement: "Communism is good." : Yeah, the real thing can be, but the real thing has never been practiced except for maybe the Hutterites.You cannot leave God (or some form of morality) out of it.

[@kuvasz5252]

It can work only if the group is smaller than Dunbar's Number.

[@joeyj6808]

communism is like religion; both systems of fantasy that ignore human nature

[@bulldogsbob]

Christianity doesn’t

[@darkwraithcovenantindustries]

You can leave God just fine. Einstein didn’t believe jn God, are you smarter than Einstein?

[@oilersridersbluejays]

@darkwraithcovenantindustries Einstein also respected people who believed in God, instead of being an edgy douche atheist.

[@swampwiz]

Wow, I had no idea that the idea of the mosh pit came from this movie.

[@luzuaznabar2190]

Alguien me puede explicar bien lo que sucedio en esta parte es Urgente!!!!

[@edaxsachorwzky8898]

Ahh what good times they had in 1917

[@rob_1359]

Like many others, when I think of Zhivago this scene is first to mind. I always remember too the face of the communist when he thinks the men are listening to the reasoning of the officer.

[@franknovello9210]

Never before in Russian History had life been so difficult as in these trying times. Friedrich von Francke Czar Romanoff

[@Wolfen443]

And people wonder nowadays why soldiers for the so called U.S. allied regional despots do not want to die fighting even more reckless and terrifying Islamic Jihadists in Iraq or Afghanistan. .

[@louisdefilippi8982]

A repeat of this scene may be occurring at this very moment in Russia.

[@jaysonbiggs8979]

The general in the white mustache was based on a real general. I forgot his name. White mustache and all. This scene illustrates events before the Bolshevik Revolution in Oct. 1917 but after the Feb. Revolution. The White (counterrevolutuonary) general was a commander against the Reds during the Civil War. This scene conflates events during the Revolution and the Civil War. There was what we come to know as fragging( killing of one's own officers, last 5 years or so of the Vietnam War) on the Russian side. Much of it led by Bolshevik supporters in the army, similar to this scene.

[@exchequerguy4037]

That mutiny leader was probably murdered by the Bolshevik leadership a few years later, because he had a record pre-1918 of defying his superiors.

[@edaxsachorwzky8898]

What a way to die: stomped to death

[@paxmule]

HIS belly was full. Phuck him.

[@eddiegould6091]

To think that it was Made during a heatwave

[@pescadorbanuyls4620]

1916 or 2022?

[@mayaram2411]

2023. No seriously, look at what Wagner is doing right now

[@EnemyAce88]

Fun fact- in WW1, the eastern front where the German and Russian armies clashed was in what is now Ukraine. And after the Germans conquered it, they left a bunch of their forces there after Russia withdrew from the war instead of sending them all to the west to fight the Brits and French. Had the Germans not been so preoccupied with holding Ukraine, they probably would have been able to capture Paris before the Americans got there to back up the Allies. And had that happened, there would have been no Treaty of Versailles and probably no WW2.

[@maximkretsch7134]

Had the Royal Navy not been so preoccupied with entering WW1 before the Germans even invaded Belgium, and then with their hunger blockade against German civilians, there would have been no need for Germany to conquer the Ukrainian break basket or to torpedoe British merchant ships in retaliation.

[@EnemyAce88]

@@maximkretsch7134 Very true.

[@RenegadeCossack]

By this time in the War the Russian army was mainly fighting the AustroHungarians. Not the German army.

[@oilersridersbluejays]

Yes but there was still substantial amounts of Germans in the Eastern Front up to 1918.

[@12Spiffy]

This is probably the spontaneous revolution of February 1917 that led to the Kerensky interim government. The Bolsheviks would seize power in October (the unwillingness of the Kerensky government to pull out of the war and abandon the Western allies was a major reason the interim government fell). The Austrian-Hungarian forces were as badly smashed by the Russians from 1914-1916 and were practically finished as an offensive fighting force--or as a fighting force at all (they still held on the Italian and Serbian fronts). All the 15+ ethnicities that made up the Austro-Hungarian "empire" were deserting or surrendering en masse except for the ethnic Germans and a few others. On the contrary, it was the German army that was putting all the pressure on the Russians. When the Bolsheviks took power, they stalled on a peace treaty as long as they could until February 1918 when the Germans started to advance again to force a resolution. The Bolsheviks were forced to surrender most of Ukraine, Byelorussia and Poland and the Baltic states to maintain there hold on Russia as the new ruling power. This kept close to a million German troops in the east, unable to reinforce the western front. Even after the treaty of Brest-Litovsk in February 1918, the Germans had to keep a large number of troops in the east to requisition and guard the grain supply and other resources (they were being starved by the Allied blockade) against the warring factions in the civil war that had erupted by then. Pinning down large numbers of German troops in the east was possibly decisive in ensuring the failure of the German offensive(s) in March-July 1918 in the west.

[@alistairthompson8311]

+12Spiffy Good point

[@exchequerguy4037]

Maybe, but it was the Germans who imposed the carthaginian Treaty of Brest-Litovsk on Russia in March 1918.

[@silviaruhsen4666]

Ramsan kadirov wants to know his name

[@peterred]

thats how you do it

[@petersmith4202]

Long live the revolution

[@robertmiles1603]

the monocle guy was the real hero :(

[@ardshielcomplex8917]

Who could blame them after what they'd endured.

[@stefanschleps8758]

At 0:26 I didn't know Adam Sandler was in this movie. 🤭😅

[@HymnfortheDudes]

A marvellous film.

[@SaniCarci]

King Push

[@terezinhabarroso4933]

Lindo dramática

[@montemichelbleu]

Vlads nightmare.

[@daikoguerraschaarschmidt8259]

CHICOS ÁNIMO

[@JohnSanJuan-zp1ed]

Both sides were enemies!

[@sarahcostanzo6099]

Yep

[@siewpoh5]

A person push to intolerance point, will break out in violence, not his fault, usually those in authority, those officers will pay the price,,,, those loud brats ,,,

[@carlottacreafacile]

wonderful bang

[@JW-do2wc]

Russia had wars before and didn't complain about it. So why is this any different?

[@paulleckner8235]

They never had Lenin and Stalin before.

[@ekesandras1481]

It was a World War, that they had started (Russia was the first major power to declare war on another major power, after Austria intervened in Serbia, which triggered the whole network of alliances) and they were losing.

[@Crimson-m9o]

People were starving in the cities due to the war, which Czar Nicholas II incompetently provoked three years earlier.

[@Augments]

Theres two types of peoples, in simple black/white terms. Libertarian or authoritarian incilined personalities. sadly they are in constant conflict. if only they could find a way to co-exist.

[@TonyAmore-dp9kx]

FOR HRH KATE MIDDLETON AND STEVEN SPIELBERG

[@daytonasixty-eight1354]

I bought that same Mosin Nagant rifle at Big 5 for 60 bucks.

[@bobflendorg1064]

Except the soldiers in the scene don't have Mosin-Nagant rifles. They are carrying Spanish Mauser M-1893 rifles.

[@hoctor]

this should of happened in Iraq and Afghan

[@paulleckner8235]

And now in the Ukraine.

[@manufleitas]

VA CHICOS NOSOTROS PODEMOS

[@Einfach-Arno-Art]

Frieden statt Krieg!

[@johncorrigan6516]

The Russian military was a lot better controlled by WW2 and the brass didn't take any guff from the troops.

[@silviaruhsen4666]

Not united

[@judithsaunders3634]

It is 2022 and suspect this may happen again for the Russian troops

[@JeepWrangler1957]

Love movies not using CGI and using real people

[@barbararicciuto1841]

Fragged the old general

[@mr.sinner33]

When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. -Thomas Jefferson

[@CaptJackUSMC]

Very apropos of Putin forcing conscripts into a very unpopular war.

[@arielg7000]

Not cool on rodn

[@johnstitt2615]

I don’t feel sorry for the old soldier they beat to death. Revenge. Today many young Russians are used as cannon fodder. That will only last for so long.

[@catherinebrau3523]

And from Hollywood's perspective......

[@oliver6673]

PA LANTE!!!!!

[@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563]

This is the inevitable result for Putin in the near future.

[@순홍김-m6c]

White army forever

[@choomanfoo]

Russia is probably only weeks away from the same thing happening again.

[@stewartteaze9328]

Nope... 1yr later and a ceasefire & truce is imminent

[@gothic3theageofwar565]

Battlefield 1 :)

[@vinijr_best5925]

The issue is, the film wasn't shot in Russia. The snow is all artificial.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

they really show the Plight of the regular Russian during this period. Tzar Nicholas and his entire gang had it coming. unfortunately the "revolution" was just a disorganized mess with countless factions that seemingly appeared and disappeared at random and that is how we got the Soviet Union under Stalin.

[@JohnRoberts-wk6rf]

Not sure I would call this scene "hilarious."

[@순홍김-m6c]

Soviet is traitor of russia. German is close but act like that?? Lol

[@jdsmith542]

The irony of this scene is that those deserters were marching into a future infinitely worse than the horrors they fled. Stalin would spend 30 years showing them the errors of their ways. Its easy to pull something down; putting something better in its place is extremely hard. And rare.